I noticed my GN charges until 100% or "fully charged" (battery widget that spells it out). Shouldn't it be 97% or 98% max when charging to prevent damaging and preserve longevity of the battery? Or is this some new thing with 4.04 that it'll tell you 100% when it's really 97%? I do notice it drops down to 99% really quickly.
I'm stock on 4.04 and I'm using the provided USB cable and charger plug.
Thanks.
I take it you came from a Nexus S before? I was surprised too but I believe it cuts off the charging to prevent overdose of electricity. No worries on it mate.
It will charge to 100% of what ever value you set or as default comes.. Like you can see on the screenshot
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
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It will charge to 100% of what ever value you set or as default comes.. Like you can see on the screenshot
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Not everyone uses that.
The way the battery works is it charges to full, then takes itself off the charger until it goes down to say 95% and then at that point it goes back on the charger until it's at 100% again, so on and so forth.
Using custom ROM?
Maybe you need to calibrate the battery after you flash new ROM
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Using custom ROM?
Maybe you need to calibrate the battery after you flash new ROM
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Wiping batstats does nothing.
so basically it is safe to just leave it plugged in all the time then, the phone by default is DEFINITELY stopping charge at 100%, Correct?
because i know 2 facts about lithium batteries which i learnt today....never leave it permanently charging. and never let it drain fully all the time (the 40-80% charge rule).
im just worried that if i leave it plugged in it'll continue charging even when its at 100...
Do you know if - with that different kernel/ROM - whether you can set it so that you can leave it plugged in - and it won't charge past say....96%. And when it reaches that limit, it lets the battery drain back to say 40%. Before charging again - any software that will let you do this?
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so basically it is safe to just leave it plugged in all the time then, the phone by default is DEFINITELY stopping charge at 100%, Correct?
because i know 2 facts about lithium batteries which i learnt today....never leave it permanently charging. and never let it drain fully all the time (the 40-80% charge rule).
im just worried that if i leave it plugged in it'll continue charging even when its at 100...
Do you know if - with that different kernel/ROM - whether you can set it so that you can leave it plugged in - and it won't charge past say....96%. And when it reaches that limit, it lets the battery drain back to say 40%. Before charging again - any software that will let you do this?
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Is how phone even on the charger that long..? Something like over night won't kill your battery. The software is supposed to tell the battery when to take itself off of the charger and when to go back. You can use a kernel that will let your battery ONLY charge to a certain percentage.
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You do know todays chargers have technology in them to prevent this right? They have for a while, overcharging is mostly a thing of the past, unless you buy cheap, flea market chargers.
in Recovery Mode there is an option called "battery ststus calibration" (something like this which I cant remember) . actually any percentage of battery use can be "calibrated" into 100%, the number is not important.
Okay, as long as charging up to 100% isn't damaging my batteries.
I did come from a Nexus S, and I always thought that when it stopped charging at 97% that was a good thing to prevent damage to the battery. So naturally, when I see it's going to 100% every night, I imagine it's damaging my battery.
Thanks all.
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in Recovery Mode there is an option called "battery ststus calibration" (something like this which I cant remember) . actually any percentage of battery use can be "calibrated" into 100%, the number is not important.
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You cannot calibrate your battery. You can condition batteries. Wiping battery stats and so called calibrations apps do absolutely nothing.
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onthecouchagain said:
Okay, as long as charging up to 100% isn't damaging my batteries.
I did come from a Nexus S, and I always thought that when it stopped charging at 97% that was a good thing to prevent damage to the battery. So naturally, when I see it's going to 100% every night, I imagine it's damaging my battery.
Thanks all.
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I think "Battery Life Xtender" feature in some ROMs caters exactly to ur requirements. see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257497(just for example) and find some ROM in GN android development section
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Okay, as long as charging up to 100% isn't damaging my batteries.
I did come from a Nexus S, and I always thought that when it stopped charging at 97% that was a good thing to prevent damage to the battery. So naturally, when I see it's going to 100% every night, I imagine it's damaging my battery.
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That's just because that's how the nexus s battery driver was written. The galaxy nexus driver isn't written with the 95% recharge limit. Its OK though there's no danger whatsoever leaving the phone charging overnight.
i mean, the feature is included in some of the GN roms
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Yeah I know some devs added it in, but its nor in the stock rom from Google.
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As you all know, the Evo battery charging mechanism is very quirky. If you are using the stock battery, the mechanism is not THAT bad once you understand how it works. If, like me, you are using the 3500 battery, charging the battery in the Evo is pretty much futile. Reason being, for some reason the Evo still thinks it is charging the stock battery despite the fact that you have a battery that is 2.5 the capacity in it. What this means is, the fully charged green light comes on at about the 65% level and you ultimately have to play a guessing game as to when the battery is actually charged. This is also after calibrating and wiping stats and doing whatever dumb HTC/sprint charging "trick" out there.
I am pleading here for someone to create an app that measures the true capacity and charge level of the battery so that we can all, especially extended battery users, know when the battery is actually fully charged. I am positive that there are donations in the project as this app will benefit all Evo users.
Please help and thanks in advance.
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I've been looking at the 3500mAh batteries as well, would love to get one, but i flat refuse to pry open my Evo everytime I want a FULL charge (having to resort to wall charging)
I'm not an expert in electrical engineering at all but I'm going to make an educated guess that the charging circuitry is independant of anything that the OS itself can control. Even with the phone 100% off it still has to obey the "rules" of charging that HTC setup. (i.e. charging to 100% then running off battery till it hits 90%) So I don't see how there can be an easy workaround for extended battery users if they want a true 100% charge.
I'd love a bit more juice myself, but like I said the only time I want to have to open up the back is if im upgrading my mSD card. If and until someone can come up with a solution, hell yeah! Until then I will just play with juice defender and hone my battery saving ability via software
I know the Battery Time app you can put in how big your battery is. Just select other when choosing your phone.
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in for progress on this.
so tell me even though the phone thinks the battery is charged, does it stop charging it too?
If I remember correctly that may have to be done in the ROM/kernel, there is most likely a charging timer somewhere in there that stops it for safety reasons.
When changing the timer remember that the batteries are actually closer to 2800mAh than 3500, you don't want to overcharge it.
http://batteryboss.org/
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in for progress on this.
so tell me even though the phone thinks the battery is charged, does it stop charging it too?
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No it continues to charge which is even more nonsensical and adds to the frustrating guessing game. Seidio recommends that you keep the phone on the charger for 2-3 hours passed the time that the light turns green. Again, more guess work.
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If I remember correctly that may have to be done in the ROM/kernel, there is most likely a charging timer somewhere in there that stops it for safety reasons.
When changing the timer remember that the batteries are actually closer to 2800mAh than 3500, you don't want to overcharge it.
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I think you are referring to wiping battery stats. I have tried this on several Roms and kernels to no avail. Also, if you aren't rooted, how would you go about wiping stats? An app would help a lot of people out.
Also after doing some more research and testing, any app that provides battery level that I have used including OS monitor, spare parts, etc. will basically spit out what the OS is telling it and not measure the true level. Unfortunatley, the OS is stuck on stupid and we are back to the original issue.
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I think you are referring to wiping battery stats. I have tried this on several Roms and kernels to no avail. Also, if you aren't rooted, how would you go about wiping stats? An app would help a lot of people out.
Also after doing some more research and testing, any app that provides battery level that I have used including OS monitor, spare parts, etc. will basically spit out what the OS is telling it and not measure the true level. Unfortunatley, the OS is stuck on stupid and we are back to the original issue.
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I don't believe it is possible for an app to do what you are wanting, the charging process is controlled by the operating system itself and is built into the kernel.
There are two main steps to charging a li-ion and the first one finishes when the battery is around 70% full. So either something is causing the phone not to start the second part of the process, it is just timing out thinking that battery should have been by that time, or, since the batteries have circuitry inside of them, it could be the battery itself that is doing it. Have you tried charging your phone through your USB port? It takes longer but the battery may not like how much power the wall charger pushes through it.
Edit: I think I misread your OP, does your phone stop charging when it says it's full or does it keep charging?
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I don't believe it is possible for an app to do what you are wanting, the charging process is controlled by the operating system itself and is built into the kernel.
There are two main steps to charging a li-ion and the first one finishes when the battery is around 70% full. So either something is causing the phone not to start the second part of the process, it is just timing out thinking that battery should have been by that time, or, since the batteries have circuitry inside of them, it could be the battery itself that is doing it. Have you tried charging your phone through your USB port? It takes longer but the battery may not like how much power the wall charger pushes through it.
Edit: I think I misread your OP, does your phone stop charging when it says it's full or does it keep charging?
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The phone continues to charge. Based on what you are saying and my own findings, it seems the phone is reporting that initial charge at 70% as 100% when using the 3500 battery.
I am in the midst of testing some things right now related to all of this and will report back.
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The phone continues to charge. Based on what you are saying and my own findings, it seems the phone is reporting that initial charge at 70% as 100% when using the 3500 battery.
I am in the midst of testing some things right now related to all of this and will report back.
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Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
Jsimon9633 said:
Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
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Yes. 10char.
how does the phone read the charge or does it?
maybe a glitch in regulating the flow?
any software determine could do this?
mine charges a good 8-10 hrs a night
never had a phone that needed more
anyone had to buy a standard battery replacement and get better battery?
software or hardware?
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Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
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Looks like I failed again. This issue really needs attention from someone well versed with how the Evo charges the battery and how to tweak the reporting deep in the android system. Wiping battery stats in recovery does not solve this issue. We need a SetBat!
I got curious so I looked at the evo's source and found that it stops charging when it thinks the battery is full and doesn't start again until it drops down to 80%. Although it should start charging again if you unplug it and then plug it back in. To fix it you will need someone to make drivers for your battery and incorporate it into a ROM.
Sorry I can't help more but compiling ROMs is still a little bit over my head right now.
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I got curious so I looked at the evo's source and found that it stops charging when it thinks the battery is full and doesn't start again until it drops down to 80%. Although it should start charging again if you unplug it and then plug it back in. To fix it you will need someone to make drivers for your battery and incorporate it into a ROM.
Sorry I can't help more but compiling ROMs is still a little bit over my head right now.
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Very interesting. The problem here is, the Evo stops charging when it thinks the stock battery is at 100 even though you have an extended battery in it.
I guess we would need a talented dev to compile a fix. Hoping that this thread can bring some attention to that. Looks like we have progress already!
Here are my findings from the monitoring I was doing earlier. It's a lazy Saturday for me so I actually had the time to watch the battery charge. For background info, I am using CM6RC2 and Snap 7.01 with the Seidio 3500 battery.
I let my battery deplete completely last night and woke up to charge it. Knowing full well that the Evo does not charge the battery correctly, I did some research into how I could properly monitor the charge on my own. What we are basically looking to do is to charge the battery to or close to 4.2v. You can monitor this yourself using any battery monitoring program. I was using spare parts.
What I saw was, the battery would charge to what the Evo thought was 100 or close to 100 for the stock 1500 battery, the green light came on and the reporting stats of charge/voltage stopped there. The phone was reporting a constant charge of 100 and the voltage froze at 3.9v despite the fact that the battery was actually charged to around 60-65%. These numbers froze there for a long period of time. The 100/green light never went away and the freeze in voltage reporting lasted about 1+ hours. The freeze at 3.9v was basically the OS reporting the 3.9v in error because it still was thinking that the stock battery was in the phone. The actual battery charge level was neither 100 nor 3.9 volts. Like I said, the voltage stayed at 3.9 for a while, lets say an hour+, and then it started charging up again to 4.2. I saw all of this happen in spare parts. The highest I saw the voltage get was 4207. It took around 5 hours to get to this point. Once it was close enough to 4.2, I rebooted into recovery and wiped my battery stats using Clockwork. On reboot, the battery was actually around 95%. Now I could have plugged the phone back in and repeated they process above but, as this point I basically gave up knowing that I couldn't really go through this type of process ever again because I never have time to sit there and watch a battery charge.
So back to point of this post, we need someone to find a way to have the Evo report true battery stats for extended batteries and not continually have the phone think that it is charging the stock battery. I don't know if it can be done in an app, in a rom, or in a kernel but, however we can get this done, it would be more than amazing.
I have never had a problem with my 3500 Seidio Battery in terms of charging.
I have never had less than 90% charge when I leave for work. But as it has been pointed out multiple times, this phone charges till 100% and then works off the battery until it hits 90%. In essence, this phone will never be charged to 100% unless you do it while turned off or quite possibly with the battery out of the phone.
Next time you think you don't have a full charge, take it off the charger, turn it off and then back on. Then stick it back on the charger, you will see that the charge is down to say.... 93% then it should start charging again. But too be honest, on a 3500mAh Battery, I really don't see the need. If you really need 100%, the best way to achieve this is with the phone turned off.
there are people in evo forums across the net that would donate en masse for this once word spreads. if it needs to be unique to each battery, the four most used are stock, 1750, 3000 chinese (what I have), and 3500 seidio. I would definitely donate for a true fix
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I have never had a problem with my 3500 Seidio Battery in terms of charging.
I have never had less than 90% charge when I leave for work. But as it has been pointed out multiple times, this phone charges till 100% and then works off the battery until it hits 90%. In essence, this phone will never be charged to 100% unless you do it while turned off or quite possibly with the battery out of the phone.
Next time you think you don't have a full charge, take it off the charger, turn it off and then back on. Then stick it back on the charger, you will see that the charge is down to say.... 93% then it should start charging again. But too be honest, on a 3500mAh Battery, I really don't see the need. If you really need 100%, the best way to achieve this is with the phone turned off.
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I assume that you keep your phone charging all night?
If so, this isn't really for people who do that. This is more for people looking to charger their phone to at or near 100 on the go, at work, etc.
Also, 10% on the extended battery is probably a difference of at least an hour more battery. I'd say even more. That's a lot of time to me personally.
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there are people in evo forums across the net that would donate en masse for this once word spreads. if it needs to be unique to each battery, the four most used are stock, 1750, 3000 chinese (what I have), and 3500 seidio. I would definitely donate for a true fix
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Agreed. I'd rather donate money to a true fix than buy an external charger. I have funds to donate for this READY TO GO ASAP.
I think this is a firmware related issue.. I cannot count how many posts and different senarios (batteries, chargers, rom's) I have read, yet still this issue remains. The only things I have ran across that actually works is:
1. Charging the battery externally (wall charger, dock, or etc)
2. Charging phone while phone is turned off.
3. Bump charging (aka: battery conditioning, battery syncing, "plug/unplug method")
4. Clearing the battery stats
Hi, after three times full cycle charge(one through the socket on the wall and two via usb). I found my galaxy nexus battery could only be charged up to 99%, even there is a "complete" showed on the locked screen.
So do i need to reset my phone xia bootloader or anybody know how to solve that? Many thanks!!!!!!
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Hi, after three times full cycle charge(one through the socket on the wall and two via usb). I found my galaxy nexus battery could only be charged up to 99%, even there is a "complete" showed on the locked screen.
So do i need to reset my phone xia bootloader or anybody know how to solve that? Many thanks!!!!!!
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Known, this is for battery protection.For example sgs2 showed 100% but it is not actually 100%.Galaxy Nexus shows the correct level.Dont worry
Mine only goes up to 97%! Very annoying.
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98% here! Although I've gotten used to it now.
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98% here! Although I've gotten used to it now.
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Have you guys tried to turn off your phone and then let it charge once it is full turn it back on? I noticied that was the only way
I was about to post here to ask about this, as I've noticed it as well. Good to hear it's normal, but I'm curious how it protects the battery.
This is standard charging behaviour and happens on the Nexus S too (which is currently my phone). There were similar questions on the Nexus S general forum about this behaviour too.
It is for increasing battery life. You should not charge it to maximum or discharge it completely. It's a well known fact about Li-Ion batteries...
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Known, this is for battery protection.For example sgs2 showed 100% but it is not actually 100%.Galaxy Nexus shows the correct level.Dont worry
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Thanks mate~ I am new on Android, so just curious about this....
I have this issue too. I have noticed that if I unplug it and plug it back in, it will charge to 100%. I had assumed it was because I was using the Samsung 700ma charger. Guess not.
I have noticed my Galaxy Tab 7 does the same thing, but it will show 100% until I unplug it then it will go down immediately to a lower level, I plug it back in and let charge and it goes to 100%.
I have guessed that what is happening is that once it charges to 100%, it stops charging and starts using battery, thus the decrease. I have not watched it to try to catch it as soon at it done charging to see if this is the case as I always charge overnight.
I would guess that if I let it get low enough, it would start charging again. I know my laptop will not charge the battery unless it is 90% or less to prevent top offs that shorten battery life.
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Have you guys tried to turn off your phone and then let it charge once it is full turn it back on? I noticied that was the only way
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will try this tonight！
robinsmy1 said:
I have this issue too. I have noticed that if I unplug it and plug it back in, it will charge to 100%. I had assumed it was because I was using the Samsung 700ma charger. Guess not.
I have noticed my Galaxy Tab 7 does the same thing, but it will show 100% until I unplug it then it will go down immediately to a lower level, I plug it back in and let charge and it goes to 100%.
I have guessed that what is happening is that once it charges to 100%, it stops charging and starts using battery, thus the decrease. I have not watched it to try to catch it as soon at it done charging to see if this is the case as I always charge overnight.
I would guess that if I let it get low enough, it would start charging again. I know my laptop will not charge the battery unless it is 90% or less to prevent top offs that shorten battery life.
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the way you used is exactly what my friend told me to do. He has the same issue, and if he unplug the charger when a 'complete' showed on the locked screen and replug it, you could get a 100%!!
Same problem here but I dont care.
I had this problem. My GN would only charge to 98% so I left it on charge for nearly 8 hours and it eventually got to 100% I carried out a battery calibration using this app from the market and its been perfect ever since I've even noticed an increase in battery life
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
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the way you used is exactly what my friend told me to do. He has the same issue, and if he unplug the charger when a 'complete' showed on the locked screen and replug it, you could get a 100%!!
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Your not supposed to do this. Charging to 100% and/or letting it drop to 0% decreases battery life in the long run. This applies to all LI-ION batteries, in your laptop, or anything else.
You people that complain about 96-99% just need to get over it. It's like that for a reason. Don't go chasing mods the charge it to 100%, or ways to trick it into saying 100%, just accept that when it says charged it is.
edit: Sorry if I come off as an 8==D. Just tired of seeing posts like this (the nexus S does the same thing. Its by design for a reason.)
My galaxy nexus charges all the way to 100%. But when i leave it charging overnight, when i wake up its on 97%. I think its a built in safety feature to prevent the phone from charging when left plugged in for an extended period.
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Oh good to know this is intentional.
I'd like to check if its safe to leave my phone charging for 7+ hours. It will be nice to leave the phone charging as I sleep.
But without a timer this would easily mean 3+ extra hours of it being left charging when it's already fully charging.
Will overcharging on a daily basis lead to any problems?
Thanks.
No. Charging overnight is fine.
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junialum said:
I'd like to check if its safe to leave my phone charging for 7+ hours. It will be nice to leave the phone charging as I sleep.
But without a timer this would easily mean 3+ extra hours of it being left charging when it's already fully charging.
Will overcharging on a daily basis lead to any problems?
Thanks.
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Theses phones stop charging once they hit 100% it very safe did it with my desire for two years.
junialum said:
I'd like to check if its safe to leave my phone charging for 7+ hours. It will be nice to leave the phone charging as I sleep.
But without a timer this would easily mean 3+ extra hours of it being left charging when it's already fully charging.
Will overcharging on a daily basis lead to any problems?
Thanks.
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The phone stops charging at 100% and lets it drop to 95% before starting to charge again to combat overcharging.
Many thanks.
Thanks given to all 3 of u!
So u people say that custom Roms can be safe when we over charge
By automatically stopping it or discharging a little bit.
I use a galaxy note.however replacing it with a htc one...
I won't mod them by installing custom Roms and all..
What if I do the same wit it now?(overcharging?)
Its the same for stock.
Its not possible to overcharge it. And the ROM you are running will have no effect on this behaviour.
Its all controlled by the charging circuits inside your phone.
They read the amount of millivolts that your battery is giving out.
These are not exact numbers (just an example)
Low battery - 800mv
You put it on charge
When your phone reaches 2000mv - full battery
it will stop accepting voltage in
While it is still plugged in your battery can fall to about 1940mv at which point it will start charging again until it reaches 2000again.
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Battery get hot when charged overnight...
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Theses phones stop charging once they hit 100% it very safe did it with my desire for two years.
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Ok cool, I see. Despite what you said above, I also have been doing this for a short period but when i get up in the morning, my htc one m8 are hot at the back. When i remove the charger the heat disperses. Can you tell me if this is normal? Also my phone are using 4.4.2 which is not the latest update.
I'm using the AOKP rom and ive flashed franco kernel (the latest) and my battery will only charge to 99%. If I unplug it and plug it back in itll charge to 100% but thats annoying. Anyone else have this issue? If so what can I do to change that?
Thanks in advance!
It's supposed to stop at 99%; Li-ion batteries are implemented to only charge to 99% as it's best for battery life.
They actually only charge to 96% but the 99-100% is cosmetic.
Sometimes mine says 99% sometimes it says 100%, don't worry about it.
Its not actually at 100% when it says 100%.
That is not an issue at all, it's just a mechanism implemented to extend the battery life.
Don't worry about it
Is one percent even that big of a deal?
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Is one percent even that big of a deal?
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No, its not. I was just curious.
Thanks guys!
You could use a kernel with the BLX option, set it to 100.
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You could use a kernel with the BLX option, set it to 100.
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But that would probably kill your battery in a shorter period of time than otherwise. Best to leave BLX at 96 or below.
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But that would probably kill your battery in a shorter period of time than otherwise. Best to leave BLX at 96 or below.
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Possibly, but supposedly the battery degrades after a year anyways.
Similar. I have not seen my battery read higher than 99%, regardless of ROM, unless I charge via computer USB. And then only sometimes.
I use a charger that came with my HTC Incredible and my Galaxy Nexus usually sticks at 98%. When I charge it at work with my dock it goes to 100%.
you can force your battery
if you use the franco kernel app, and franco kernel you can force the phone to charge to 100% but the longevity of the battery will be decreased.
It might be that it charges to 100 and then turns offs the charger once it hits 100 so if you see it at 99 on the charger that's drain from use... possibly??
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if you use the franco kernel app, and franco kernel you can force the phone to charge to 100% but the longevity of the battery will be decreased.
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It still won't go past 96%
Its hardware not allowing >96% charging.
Its to preserve battery longevity.
If it says 100% it still isn't 100%. Its 96%.
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It still won't go past 96%
Its hardware not allowing >96% charging.
Its to preserve battery longevity.
If it says 100% it still isn't 100%. Its 96%.
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On franco kernel updater app under setting you go to the battery life extender option and it will be defaulted at 96% max battery charge. you can change that number to 100%
I have tried it it does charge to 100% franco kernel bypasses the hardware safety the kernel can control the hardware, like voltages and volume etc..
But LI-ion batteries do not like to be fully charged to 100%. it will make the battery need to be replaced sooner. Depending on the battery it may only last a year. But if you only charge to 96% the battery should last several years.
cool, cool. what roms are you all using? kernels?
also, any of you guys running the updated AOKP? the toro build 35? any difference of battery life?
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On franco kernel updater app under setting you go to the battery life extender option and it will be defaulted at 96% max battery charge. you can change that number to 100%
I have tried it it does charge to 100% franco kernel bypasses the hardware safety the kernel can control the hardware, like voltages and volume etc..
But LI-ion batteries do not like to be fully charged to 100%. it will make the battery need to be replaced sooner. Depending on the battery it may only last a year. But if you only charge to 96% the battery should last several years.
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i have that setting set too, it still only gets to 99%. its not a huge deal i was just wondering why it only went to that percentage.
Every morning on my commute my phone reaches 100% when charging, and it stays there for about 1 hour after unplugging. If you use the phone with screen on during charge then it makes it difficult to reach 100%. Just leave the screen off.
The gnex does not work the same way the nexus s did with the 95% recharge function. You can see if you look at both battery drivers. The gnex actually goes up to 100%. Of course some custom roms added in this function for the gnex. But its not in the stock battery driver.
Wondering what people do on their first charge/drain to get the most out of their batteries now that you cant change them out or if this is still even a thing.
Gilley said:
Wondering what people do on their first charge/drain to get the most out of their batteries now that you cant change them out or if this is still even a thing.
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I would also like to know this.
I used to, until I got the Note 5 and googled it. From what I read the new batteries don't need to be conditioned.
Edit - found this from 2011
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169979
Any lithium-ion or lithium-polymer battery does not need 'conditioning', in that it doesn't have a memory effect like ni-cad. Android battery percentage estimation has also improved; back in Gingerbread days, Samsung phones learned from your usage patterns what 0% really was, but that ended up requiring a battery stats wipe if you really wanted to get the lifetime from your phone that you wanted.
To get the absolute most out of your battery:
Don't let it get too hot.
Don't let it get too cold.
Don't let it drop to 0%.
Don't keep it at 100%.
Don't fast charge.
Pretty easy.
That last one...definitely been breaking that rule
I always fast charge
I have a slower charger by my nightstand, but during the day I tend to fast charge
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fast charging is only for special situations, if not, that charging mode would be the standard manner, think about it
When I get the phone I always drain in to 0% try to boot even few times and the charge to 100% while it's turned off then power it on and remove the charger... At least this helps to calibrate my S4 battery after the ROM flash... Don't see any harm in this if u get a new device or a new ROM.