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Hi! I got my shiny new Desire HD yesterday (upgraded from an iphone) and by god do I love it, just perfect for me.
Although with it comes a lot of.. junk that I simply do not need (scrolling through a good 30 apps just to get to my most used), plus I heard that 2.3 (Specifically Cyanogenmod 7) brings with it better battery, better performance and with it being rooted, more features.
I'm looking to root it as soon as possible before I start putting a lot of things on it, rather than do a lot with it now and then have to do it again a couple months down the road.
My main question is, I love htcsense.com and I love the extra features it gives me, especially being able to track the phone, gives me much needed peace of mind, if I root to a 2.3 ROM (probably cm7) will htcsense.com no longer work?
Thankyou for any/all replies, oh and a little quickie at the end, I'm planning to go with cm7 because it seems the most basic and customizable for my needs, and battery life is a huge plus for me as I'm planning to use this beauty in and around college, is cm7 a good idea?
Thank you and have a great day.
If that HTC feature relies on having the app on the phone then it wont work as CM7 is not a Sense ROM and contains no sense applications.
Neither do I believe simply installing the apk, if possible, would work.
Be nice to be wrong though.
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Ahh, so in short, no?
Fair enough, is there a way to install the part needed for it to work after rooting it with cm7?
Probably not. Again, hope I'm wrong because it is a great utility that would otherwise cost you (Wavesecure app for example and I believe one of the anti-virus apps provides same functionality).
If anyone has the apk I'd happily try it but IIRC the apps rely on the Sense framework.
Bear with me, just checking this out.
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Confirmed. Without the apk installed the phone can't communicate with the HTC servers.
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Hi there,
i've recently rooted my Desire HD (and upgraded to 2.3.3) & I can tell you that HTCsense still works. No idea about if it still works on non-sense roms such as CM7 or not.
I've been using RCMix and Android Revolution roms in the past week & both of them are a lot better than the stock Froyo that my phone came with though.
Did a search and found an apk but it is confirmed that it will not run on AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod.
The only option you have would be to run a Sense based ROM then install something like ADW.Launcher which has categorised app drawer (meaning you can choose what apps appear).
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Thankyou for the replies you've really helped.
Does sense rom mean, a rom that has HTC sense enabled? I assume it does.
Also, if I want to get 2.3+ android with sense so I can use the htcsense.com service, which rom would be best to root too? I've only ever heard of cm7, that's about it.
Thanks again!
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Does it improve the battery life at all?
Oh also, is it easy to change back to the original ROM that came with the phone in-case of any warranty issues? Coredroid just doesn't look as.. polished as cyanogen, I could be completely wrong though.
If so, I'll root it today! Love the community by the way, I can't say anything bad about the iPhone community really, although they seem to care a lot less.
Does rooting to an Android 2.3 ROM bring everything that normal Android 2.3 brings and then depending on the ROM, special things? So it doesn't matter what ROM I get that's 2.3 they'll all have 2.3 Android features?
Do a backup in Tom manager in case you want to go back to your previous rom. Coredroid is a very fast rom IMO, but its dependent on how you use it much like any other rom really.
batery life is better than stock but again you will need to be mindful of gps and wifi etc. An awesome gingerbread kernel to improve battery life does not yet exist.
Fantastic, I'll give CoreDroid a try then, thankyou for your help, you've been very useful and informative.
One last thing before I begin the process, what is Tom manager? I did a quick google search and a look into the market but found nothing, did you mean Rom manager?
my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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Ahh, I got it and I'm trying to backup my current ROM but I need to install "clockwordmod recovery" and whenever I try I get a "An error occurred while attempting to run privilged commands!" which is a shame.
Oh, and is there an up-to-date guide on how to root? Pardon my ignorance.
You need root first.
There's several "how to's" in the development forum. More information than we could put here (or should).
Sorry, I'm being incredibly silly, I keep getting ROM's and rooting mixed up, I'm in the process of rooting it now then I'll install a ROM, I haven't decided which yet but I might.. shop around, sorta speak.
Thanks for the help guys, take care.
Because sense apps aren't running in background, Cyanogen should be less stressful on the battery. However stock roms are usually not developed to maximize battery life in the same way custom roms are (afterall, battery life is a bugbear for developers too!). With this in mind, Coredroid even with sense is still better on your battery life than stock sense. Its all dependent on how you use it though (turn off GPS and wifi when no longer required etc..). Intensive use will naturally drain your battery sooner than conservative use. If you find battery life a pain with any rom, you could try juice defender free to automatically regulate consumption of battery.
Best advice, try a number of mods every week or so, and settle on one you like once you've experienced them. You souls also download battery calibrator from market and use after every flash to help you with the battery.
After a little soulsearching I'm going to give RCMixHD a try, it seems very popular which is usually a good sign, it has sense 3.0 and 2.3.3 Android so it's practically perfect.
The only thing I'm puzzled by now is "radios" I've worked out that they determine call reception and 3G+HSPDA whatnots, but do I actually need a new one before/after flashing to a new ROM? There seems to be a lot of radios out there and I have no clue which to go with and what they do.
Oh, also, does overclocking your phone as you have done have a huge impact on the battery life? I assume it has atleast some impact.
Only certain roms currently support overclocking, with some having the ability only after a kernel flash. CM7.0.2 however comes with ability without need to install anything else. You will need SetCPU to overclock and select a governor to regulate how power is maintained. You need to set minimum frequency when phone is idle etc.. It's easier than it sounds but do read into the overclocking threads for dhd we have here if in any doubt.
I've had my EVO since late last year and have finally gotten around to deciding it is time to root my phone. I picked up my new microSDHC card the other night and have a few questions. Following the sticky's advice I am asking what ROM you would recommend based upon what I am looking for in a ROM:
- General day-to-day functionality. I wont be upgrading my ROM every week. It may be upgraded once a month or two so I need it to be reliable and more or less functioning at or near full capacity at this point. I understand that nothing is perfect with ROMs but I do need something reliable.
- GPS. The stock GPS has been nothing but trouble for me. I need it to actually work better than the stock GPS system does. It appears there are script changes that can be done here to improve GPS functionality but I am not too familiar with how to approach this with custom ROMs.
- FLAC/misc audio support. I would like to be able to play my music. My big goal is to be able to play music and use my GPS at the same time without my music skipping or my GPS flaking out on me. This currently happens now and is likely due to needing to do a hard reset but why not improve what I've got while I fix it?
- Better 3G functionality. Currently my 3G speeds (San Diego/Carlsbad region) are absolutely horrible. I honestly question whether or not I'm on dial up some of the time. I know this has to do with PRL/Script tweaks but I figure I need to start somewhere.
- Free wireless tether capability. It would be nice to have the option.
- A functioning camera. I am not too concerned about the HD recording issues I've read about CM7 but I am interested in the camera improvements that I have heard that go on in custom ROMs.
- 4G isn't a necessity as its barely in my area right now. It wouldn't hurt to have but I don't require it.
My other questions are:
- Is there really that big of a difference between Sense & AOSP? Sense is a UI system and the graphics that go along with it correct? What is AOSP and aside from using less memory is there really that big of a difference?
- Is there anything else I should do besides getting Nandroid & Titanium back-up prior to going the rooting route?
- Will there be adverse effects in modifying scripts on ROMs? I'm speaking in regards to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269. I understand that I must be very careful as some of these are powerful adjustments.
- What other threads should I be thoroughly looking at in order to have a better rooting experience?
I understand that I am asking a few long questions but I am hoping to have all my questions answered here so I can properly utilize my phone. I've done my best to look through the stickied threads and answer my others questions but these are the ones that have stuck with me and that I feel need clarification for me to actually understand them. Linking to threads/posts for me to read is highly encouraged.
Your help in helping me helping myself is much appreciated.
Aosp is Straight Google code while sense is HTC's code. There is a huge difference with performance and UI. Aosp is straight forward while sense is..I guess themed and pleasing to the eye?
I personally use sense and the current ROM I'm using is mikg 2.5.best overall IMO. I hardly use gps but when i have, this ROM Delivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Now, I recommend using sense if you are new to flashing but if you want to try out an aosp then use kushdeck ROM. Its super fast and has all the gps fixes or whatever the problem you may come up on within the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
Both roms should have wireless tether built in. 3g speeds are shown to true potential 3g or 1x on both roms. Music shouldn't stop on either ROM. You shouldn't worry much about scripts until you try out your roms. But if you do, check out zepplinrox scripts.
Hope this helps you out.Oh btw I recommend using amon ra recovery. Wipe wipe wipe. Multiple times just for kicks. Titanium backup is probably the best app for a rooted phone. Will help out a lot in the long run. ROM manager is good for a beginner but for the advanced or avid user, its sorta pointless. Hope I covered everything. Enjoy !
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First of all before you root update your PRL and profile in the updates section of the menu, that should help your 3g speeds hopefully, I am currently using Synergy RLS1 non-godmode by myn http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447 its pretty clean another rom id recommend is EVOlved rom r3charg3d by EVOlvedandroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221703 this is a very good rom and everything works on both of them but for some reason I keep on going back to Synergy. I have warms theme and I can't live with out it. Hope I helped
- GPS. The stock GPS has been nothing but trouble for me. I need it to actually work better than the stock GPS system does. It appears there are script changes that can be done here to improve GPS functionality but I am not too familiar with how to approach this with custom ROMs.
Check out this thread regarding FasterFix. It worked for me on CM7.
- Free wireless tether capability. It would be nice to have the option.
Many ROMs have it either built in, or have the Sprint app unlocked. I would recommend Android Wifi Tether and you can read more here.
My other questions are:
- Is there really that big of a difference between Sense & AOSP? Sense is a UI system and the graphics that go along with it correct? What is AOSP and aside from using less memory is there really that big of a difference?
The driving force for me was the Bluetooth HID support found in CM7 (AOSP) that wasn't supported with Sense 1,2,3. May not seem like a big deal, but now I can play my playstation1 emulator via FPSE and pair my PS3 DualShock3 controller to my phone. It definitely turns heads in the office. PM me if you want the app. Demo
- Is there anything else I should do besides getting Nandroid & Titanium back-up prior to going the rooting route?
Export your contacts. No joke...lol
- Will there be adverse effects in modifying scripts on ROMs? I'm speaking in regards to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269. I understand that I must be very careful as some of these are powerful adjustments.
I checked out that thread. It worked for me (call mod).
By the way, I bolded my comments so that it's easier for you to read my section. Not yelling or anything lol
Need help picking a ROM. Right now I have the AT&T GS3 JB Stock Rooted. I am looking to try something new to make the most of this awesome phone. There are a few features that I can't live without. I am having trouble identifying which ROMs support all of these features. Most seem to support some, but I can't confirm with support all. I am hoping that people that have tried these can confirm.
MUST HAVE FEATURES:
NFC + Google Wallet (I have this working now via the Google Wallet fix)
A2DP Streaming
Tethering (I have this working now via AT&T paid legit)
Camera
Wifi and LTE (4G speed)
GPS
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THE ROM:
Stability!!!
Great Battery Life
Pure Interface Minus TW
Premium Suite (This is a plus, though not essential)
Fast, Responsive UI
Any Eye Candy is a Bonus
Thanks in advance for any help!
Task aokp has all that and so much more. Give it a try, you won't regret it.
I've tried every single rom and I keep going back to this rom.
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cjranucci said:
Need help picking a ROM. Right now I have the AT&T GS3 JB Stock Rooted. I am looking to try something new to make the most of this awesome phone. There are a few features that I can't live without. I am having trouble identifying which ROMs support all of these features. Most seem to support some, but I can't confirm with support all. I am hoping that people that have tried these can confirm.
MUST HAVE FEATURES:
NFC + Google Wallet (I have this working now via the Google Wallet fix)
A2DP Streaming
Tethering (I have this working now via AT&T paid legit)
Camera
Wifi and LTE (4G speed)
GPS
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THE ROM:
Stability!!!
Great Battery Life
Pure Interface Minus TW
Premium Suite (This is a plus, though not essential)
Fast, Responsive UI
Any Eye Candy is a Bonus
Thanks in advance for any help!
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If you know what you want your just being lazy. Go read the romss your self buddy. However if you want my advise which you did ask for .
Rootbox and Jellybam have the most to offer. There not perfect but bolth simular.. of the two root box is updated Often but minor updates. (nightlys) so expect be flashing a lot.
Jellybam is updated once in awhile (*might be more to your taste*) dunno depends what you like bro
if want something more normal get Cm10
Hi there,
I have just upgraded from a Wildfire S to a Nexus4. I would like to use the Wildfire S a secondary phone (for which right now I use a very old/crappy/non-android phone).
So far my experience with the Wildfire S hasn't been stellar (standard HTC rom): the lack of memory made it very hard to really enjoy it: every time an update popped up it was a struggle to get it to install properly.
So I would like to take the opportunity to clear up the phone and install a more ... "comfortable" rom.
I don't have huge requirements: some simple games for the kids to be entertained, some music, check the news ...
My absolute preference is to have a rom that uses very little memory in order to forget about all the headaches I had in the past ~2 years.
So, I started looking for the roms available. My oh my: talking about choice! It's great, of course, but choosing is not straightforward.
Looking here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068879) I see that there is such thing as a "Slim rom" which sound quite attractive from where I am sitting.
So the question is: SlimCM10 o "standard" CM10 (like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136011).
Roms like "ParanoidAndroi" don't seem too attractive to me, not on a screen as tiny as that of the wildfire S.
I would like someone's opinion on this. Perhaps I should look at totally different roms ...
Suggestions?
Thanks!
You have quite a few options.
If you want your kids to play games on, I wouldn't recommend even the SlimCM10 because all it does is removes certain unneeded alps in system. I'm on the normal CM10 and it does lag at times.
CM7 is a good alternative, since it is gingerbread, everything works.
If you want to do a little more work, you can check out the Customized stock ROMs by Crossfire77 and me. They're compatible with most tweaks including the famous v6 Supercharger. After you install this ROM you can install v6 Supercharger, Adrenaline Engine, Pimp my ROM tweaks and even an app called Seeder.
These tweaks and apps will work on all afore mentioned ROMs and will reduce lag by a lot.
Since just CM7 is a bit laggy, installing Seeder would do the trick and you can play games just fine.
You can also look at other sense based ROMs like Wildchild.
Good luck!
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Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
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Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
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Memory issues, well not so much. I get ~100mb free space on install, and a few apps would probably fill it up. I recommend partitioning your SD Card, flashing a script called INT2EXT so whatever size your partition is, your internal memory will be that much. Battery life is a bit of a problem, I must say. There's more on Mobile Data than WiFi, so you would want to use WiFi more.
Again, seeder, adrenaline engine and v6 Supercharger can nearly kill the lag. Of course, games will be a bit laggy. Heavy games, that is.
The issues on JB are:
*Panorama is weird.
*Camcorder has very low frame rate.
*No USB Tethering. (Using phone as a modem)
ICS issues:
*No camcorder - Wrong colour output.
* Panorama is weird / doesn't work. (I don't remember that well)
*No USB tethering.
CM7 issues:
*Slightly worse camera than stock.
*No USB Tethering.
This should help out on choosing.
P.S. I love Jetpack Joyride, its too much fun!
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Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
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Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
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The battery life is a problem with data on, so if you're using wifi you're good. However, battery life on standby is much better than stock but if you use data with screen on a lot, you'll get quite a good amount of battery drain.
Other than that, it's just fine. And I would recommend the following custom ROMs:
Gingerbread - Wildchild (based on stock) , CM7.2
ICS - CM9 Alpha 9.
JB - Jelly King, Speed Droid. Although I love jelly king. Ext partition is recommended on ICS and JB. Use INT2EXT.
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I just installed Jelly King 2.0 .... So far it looks quite good. Time will tell.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
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The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.