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I take it nobody knows then?
Wasn't me............ ;-)
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I take it nobody knows then?
Wasn't me............ ;-)
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I'm sure someone does. I just think no one wants to be the one to say this to you so...........questions go in general
Also, I did a little bit of works on this, but all I found is that it's not cross variant compatible. Pretty sure if you pm jmz, he should know and might help.
BigChillin said:
I'm sure someone does. I just think no one wants to be the one to say this to you so...........questions go in general
Also, I did a little bit of works on this, but all I found is that it's not cross variant compatible. Pretty sure if you pm jmz, he should know and might help.
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Technically this is a question related to developing so imho there is full right for bb to post his question here.
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Well it is really, its not a general information post ...I'm after bits for android development to further my own rom......sorry if I posted wrongly in your boards but I've seen many post like this in this section across xda.
Wasn't me............ ;-)
Ok. THIS IS CLUTTER. These aren't my boards, so you can take that and shove it smarty. Unless you posted from tapatalk, the site told you that you were breaking the rules. And Ben, we all know your history with useless threads in the dev section, so whatever.
My q is, WHERE THE **** ARE THE MODS? Nothing gets moved or deleted, so people think its ok to ask questions in this section.
I tried to be nice....
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Ok. THIS IS CLUTTER. These aren't my boards, so you can take that and shove it smarty. Unless you posted from tapatalk, the site told you that you were breaking the rules. And Ben, we all know your history with useless threads in the dev section, so whatever.
My q is, WHERE THE **** ARE THE MODS? Nothing gets moved or deleted, so people think its ok to ask questions in this section.
I tried to be nice....
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you have just cluttered this thread with 2 useless pots...
how am i breaking the rules.....find me where in any board....it says i cannot ask an honest q about android development....
if they want me to correct it or they do...thats fine...there choice...NOT YOURS!
yeah i know your history...you enjoy flaming peoples threads cos u don't like what they do...
so please....go jump some one else thread...
nice....rude more like!
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Ok. THIS IS CLUTTER. These aren't my boards, so you can take that and shove it smarty. Unless you posted from tapatalk, the site told you that you were breaking the rules. And Ben, we all know your history with useless threads in the dev section, so whatever.
My q is, WHERE THE **** ARE THE MODS? Nothing gets moved or deleted, so people think its ok to ask questions in this section.
I tried to be nice....
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LOL @ U 4 FLAMEZ - U NEED 2 CHILL
While I'm overly rude, it doesn't change the fact that this is in the wrong section. You have to wait for an answer like everyone else. In the general section.
And my first post WAS nice. You got defensive because you're wrong.
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BigChillin said:
While I'm overly rude, it doesn't change the fact that this is in the wrong section. You have to wait for an answer like everyone else. In the general section.
And my first post WAS nice. You got defensive because you're wrong.
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Ah I don't know. It seems like a question to devs and its dev related so well, why should it be moved?
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BigChillin said:
While I'm overly rude, it doesn't change the fact that this is in the wrong section. You have to wait for an answer like everyone else. In the general section.
And my first post WAS nice. You got defensive because you're wrong.
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Geez man why can't u just Bugger off!....
Wasn't me............ ;-)
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Geez man why can't u just Bugger off!....
Wasn't me............ ;-)
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1) Because you've offended me, I tried to help.
2)Because this IS in the wrong place. It's a spam topic getting spammed.
3)And THIS is the big one....I've got very little to do today.
1.Your flaming me...and waisting and honest thread..
2.Lol, give over will u
3.big one.....that's funny...Cos I remember u doing this to another devs....
No wonder devs quit making stuff for wasters like you....
Wasn't me............ ;-)
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Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
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MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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It appears to me this would be development (though it is a question), and is of a "n00b unfriendly nature." Therefore, I feel that this question should be permitted. However, that is just my sole opinion and I am not trying to choose sides, just remind of the rules.
I've just taken a look at the OP before it was edited. It's a question, so it simply doesn't belong in Development. It should have been posted in General. Doesn't matter if it's related to development or not, it's not a release, so it doesn't go here.
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THIS THREAD IS ONLY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND POSTS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT! FOR ALL GENERAL ICS DISCUSSION, PLEASE GO HERE:
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SteadyHawkin has gotten an ICS kernel put together with a fully working recovery!! Way to go, man!! At this point, we are testing with our current build to work on fixing things! I have been trying to get a source build of our own together, but there is a problem when trying to sync ICS source right now. But we will continue on
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Mine too!!
No posting in here if it's not related to development!! I don't know how much clearer I can make this. There is a link in the OP to a thread about ICS in General, post in there. If you post in here asking for ETAs, volunteering to test, of anything not related to development, I hope you get a nice long vacation from XDA. Jerdog will address this more shortly.
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No posting in here if it's not related to development!! I don't know how much clearer I can make this. There is a link in the OP to a thread about ICS in General, post in there. If you post in here asking for ETAs, volunteering to test, of anything not related to development, I hope you get a nice long vacation from XDA. Jerdog will address this more shortly.
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As -viperboy- stated, this thread is for discussion relating to Development. Anything that is not directly related to issues experienced with this development effort, and NOT already addressed in the thread itself, counts as off-topic and will be actioned accordingly and might just earn it's poster a nice little vacation from XDA to think about his/her actions - or maybe to read:
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And if you have any questions on what might constitute "off-topic" and unwelcome thread-garbage, let me just quote some of what venerable Senior Moderator and top developer pulser_g2 had to say:
pulser_g2 said:
Welcome to XDA-Developers. This is a development site.
People behave like this is 4chan. If you want 4chan, bugger off there, and leave people who wish to develop. You'll find that XDA is actually pretty tolerant. But there are rules, and there is a line.
Noobish posts from people simply after "the product" do not belong. This is NOT a noob site. If you are here for the ROM, and just want to use it, then you count as a noob. That means you should keep out of development threads, and stick to general.
People ****ting on dev threads is what causes the problems. If someone causes problems, then that pisses off the developers, who ask mods to clean their threads.
If you want to behave like a 4chan user, go to 4chan and do it.
You do NOT have an absolute right to freedom of speech on private websites, but you will find this site is very, very tolerant, compared to many others. But this is a development site. That is the key word. If you're not here to develop, you have to stay in the correct place. That means no troll posts, and no "stupid comments" in serious threads.
And finally @ whoever said they don't like their posts being deleted. That makes sense. But if you avoid 4chan behaviour on XDA, and make meaningful posts, you will find it doesn't happen... I happen to know that in 2 years on XDA, I have had zero posts deleted. So... I'd suggest the contents of the posts is the issue.
If you make meaningless posts like "thanks" or "looking forward to it", in what way has that contributed to development? If you are posting something USEFUL, then you'll find posts don't go away if a thread is cleaned up. So before you think about "OMG OMG some1 haz deleated mah post OH NOEZZZ!!!!!", consider the fact that without people here to keep the place clean, XDA wouldn't exist, as it would be overrun with idiots
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I think that pretty much clears that up. =)
Thanks, jerdog. That perfectly sums it up.
Now, as a small update for everyone - SteadyHawkin, me, and hopefully many of the other devs will have a date in IRC tonight working on this I would appreciate if we could keep the chit chat low in IRC if we are actively working on something in there. Stay tuned Want to be the first to know about updates? You can follow me on Twitter - http://twitter.com/#!/_viperboy_
Also, I don't care about the number of Thanks that I get but if you do want to say thanks to me or any one else who posts in here, please just use the button
In developing this ICS ROM may I make a light suggestion that I think all might love?..... Could the search keay be remaped to function as the multi task soft key that is in ICS?
Maybe a feature like this would be something to look at after we had a daily driver type ROM but I felt it would be a good thought to throw in during this development stage. Thanks
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Hold down the home button brings up multiple task same one as if u pressed the key
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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.844040,-74.081034
Is the kernel Samsung or an aosp variant?
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CODteabagger said:
Did you read this paragraph? You talk about abusive language? Hypocrite much? Was FFS (For F*** Sake) necessary especially coming from a MOD?
I bought it up because it's related to the kernel that was/is being made for this WIP ROM. I imagine you are now going to ban me for speaking up.
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*whacks on nose*
Will of fire said:
Same question
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dkotoric said:
whats the progress on getting ICS ported, I just used ICS on my friends Nexus S 4G and we really really need ICS
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Wow - evidently you missed the posts above so I shall give them to you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19775625&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19775625&postcount=5
Neither of your posts are related to development, they instead belong in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1348832
-viperboy- said:
SteadyHawkin has gotten an ICS kernel put together with a fully working recovery!! Way to go, man!! At this point, we are testing with our current build to work on fixing things! I have been trying to get a source build of our own together, but there is a problem when trying to sync ICS source right now. But we will continue on
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I have the ICS source on my machine at home... I could set up a shell account for you if you wanted to do some work or just copy it to your own machine. It's not the fastest connection to download from, but it might be better then nothing if you continue to have issues.
I also have a build system set up and can provide shell access with remote adb to your device connected to your client. Quad-core, 4GB RAM, hardware RAID filesystem. PM me for more info.
T.C.P said:
inb4 lock, jk im in talks with someone to help me get a working ics kernel, so its not fully dead...
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Hey didn't steady have a working kernal or was that only for CM7?
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daniel4653 said:
Hey didn't steady have a working kernal or was that only for CM7?
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He has a working kernel but it doesn't have cdma stuffz in their
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I don't know anything about kernels... but I am trying to learn, so baring that in mind... couldn't you just take the CDMA "commands" or "scripts" or " whatever word I am searching for " and apply it to the working ICS kernel from a working CDMA kernel?
rayprobg said:
I don't know anything about kernels... but I am trying to learn, so baring that in mind... couldn't you just take the CDMA "commands" or "scripts" or " whatever word I am searching for " and apply it to the working ICS kernel from a working CDMA kernel?
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Keeping it as simple as possible, no, you cannot do that.
There aren't any "scripts" for ICS to be used. Gingerbread ones will not work. Development will not get anywhere until we get a good leak for our device and looking at how there has been no ICS leaks for the E4GT or even information of one, I don't believe Samsung is currently working on ICS for it.
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Alright guys, I should not even be saying anything but Im going to anyway. I know many of you are tired of waiting for ICS and feel like we are the odd man out while everyone else gets a taste of the glory. This is in fact not the case! I'm not going to name names, or comment on anything else, but I will say that development is VERY much alive for this phone. Its also allot closer than any of you think. Trust me, there is a very tallented group of people who are close to making this dream a reality.
Me making a comment in this thread does infact violate what this thread was intented to do and for that I'm sorry. My intention is just to inform you that we too shall taste sweet victory soon. My only request is that we move non-development related questions and comments to the Q&A or general subforum so we can keep this thread clean for future use. I look forward to basking in the sweet taste of a delicious sandwich with all of you very soon
Steady Hawkin said:
Alright guys, I should not even be saying anything but Im going to anyway. I know many of you are tired of waiting for ICS and feel like we are the odd man out while everyone else gets a taste of the glory. This is in fact not the case! I'm not going to name names, or comment on anything else, but I will say that development is VERY much alive for this phone. Its also allot closer than any of you think. Trust me, there is a very tallented group of people who are close to making this dream a reality.
Me making a comment in this thread does infact violate what this thread was intented to do and for that I'm sorry. My intention is just to inform you that we too shall taste sweet victory soon. My only request is that we move non-development related questions and comments to the Q&A or general subforum so we can keep this thread clean for future use. I look forward to basking in the sweet taste of a delicious sandwich with all of you very soon
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Thank you
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Sometimes I cannot understand people in any forums. Sure, we all should search first before create another thread. If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up. More people tell search before ask and the original poster stating reasons why he/she couldn't bloating the thread all the time.
I didn't ask any questions and got offended by some one. I am ranting as I always see numerous people always tell any thread starters regarding this.
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People like to act as if they're in charge? No clue lol
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If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
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Apparently not, because a few minutes later someone starts another new thread with another previously answered question.
Hawon said:
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up.
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Probably to hit the point home.
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Why not just answer the question, true story I went and searched for drivers and stuff my girlfriends touchpad, and the two first search results were topics that only included with a “go search" reply
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And yet you created a meaningless thread that is adding bloat to the nexus forum. The pot calling the kettle black?
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Hawon said:
Sometimes I cannot understand people in any forums. Sure, we all should search first before create another thread. If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up. More people tell search before ask and the original poster stating reasons why he/she couldn't bloating the thread all the time.
I didn't ask any questions and got offended by some one. I am ranting as I always see numerous people always tell any thread starters regarding this.
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at a certain future point, all questions would have been already asked, and every new thread thats started is already duplicated. in that case, all we would have here would be just people searching, and no real time one-on-one help. when this happens, xda will no longer have xda forums, all xda will have is xda frequently asked questions :silly:
There are plenty of threads about this already. Next time search before you post.
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The problem is many people don't have a cpu and rely on their phone to access the forums. Search in Tapatalk is inherently incredibly awful, so some slack should be given at times. That said, if someone has an issue, and has access to a PC, put the phone down :highfive:
What I want to know is, did you search previous rants before posting this one?
adrynalyne said:
What I want to know is, did you search previous rants before posting this one?
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Dont think so.. but can i start one
WHY DO PEOPLE QUOTE THE OP??? Its a given thats who your responding too.. unless of course the OP askes a series of questions
1. what is this
2. how do you do this
3. etc
You get my point !
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There are plenty of threads about this already. Next time search before you post.
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brilliant :highfive:
The problem I have with repetitive threads is that often times the question has been fully answered very detailed in a previous thread, and we can't answer it again with such detail and accuracy. So functionally, please refer to the previous thread where the question was answered thoroughly. I can't repeat my answers every time a screen burn in thread is posted. So please see my answer in earlier threads.
We want the community to be helpful and if all screen burn in info stayed in one thread its benefits everyone. Now apply that to most any topic. I just can't repeat my answers each time with the same level of detail and usefulness. Basically, its already been said better, so just refer to that thread.
CMNein said:
The problem is many people don't have a cpu and rely on their phone to access the forums. Search in Tapatalk is inherently incredibly awful, so some slack should be given at times. That said, if someone has an issue, and has access to a PC, put the phone down :highfive:
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So stop using Tapatalk. XDA forums on the Nexus work just fine in a browser. Tapatalk is a terrible application. Don't use terrible applications.
simms22 said:
at a certain future point, all questions would have been already asked, and every new thread thats started is already duplicated. in that case, all we would have here would be just people searching, and no real time one-on-one help. when this happens, xda will no longer have xda forums, all xda will have is xda frequently asked questions :silly:
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i dont think so, there are new devices coming out every month, and new ROMS and firmware updates by Google, so there will always be new developments and questions regarding those
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I think a lot of times people just feel their specific situation is different form others they've found, or they are just very confused and would like a new thread where they can explain their problem and hopefully someone will help them.
That's what I think about support type questions anyway. General knowledge type questions ("WILL WE GET ICS??") do tend to be annoying and could certainly be ignored.
I think if we learned to ignore a lot of those type of questions things would be better. Every type we reply the thread goes right back to the top, getting the attention of someone else who also feels the need to reply with the exact same message as the previous question. A mod could also post a link to the answer and just close the thread.
Other times you find something kind of what you are looking for, but the topic has over 100 pages, it's just honestly too much work trying to go through all of those pages. You read the first couple and then you read the last few and then there is a lot that you could have missed.
Finally a lot of us are just jerks, lets face it if we have the time to complain about someone not searching, we probably have the time to actually guide the person in the right direction. Some of us spend way too much time on these forums complaining about how we don't have time to do this or that.
JaiaV said:
So stop using Tapatalk. XDA forums on the Nexus work just fine in a browser. Tapatalk is a terrible application. Don't use terrible applications.
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First of all, I very rarely tend to just say something like "that was posted before, just search". I will usually say something like "if you would have searched, you would have found this link..."
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Other times you find something kind of what you are looking for, but the topic has over 100 pages, it's just honestly too much work trying to go through all of those pages. You read the first couple and then you read the last few and then there is a lot that you could have missed.
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That's all fine. But. There are those of us who actually did go through the entire thread because:
a) we knew that we are not special, and chances are if we were having an issue, someone else probably had it before us and someone posted the solution for it.
b) we are here because we enjoy learning about our devices and our OS's and, given that this is XDA-developers, not XDA-support-my-non-searching-ass, we kinda expect others to do the same.
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Finally a lot of us are just jerks, lets face it if we have the time to complain about someone not searching, we probably have the time to actually guide the person in the right direction. Some of us spend way too much time on these forums complaining about how we don't have time to do this or that.
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It's not about not having enough time: it's about coming to the realization that if you can search and post the answer, the person asking the question can easily to the same. It would probably help to phrase a question more like "i was looking for an answer for issue X, and I came up with Y. I am not sure if it fully applies in my situation. Any thoughts?" instead of "I haz issue X. Puuleez help!"
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First of all, I very rarely tend to just say something like "that was posted before, just search". I will usually say something like "if you would have searched, you would have found this link..."
That's all fine. But. There are those of us who actually did go through the entire thread because:
a) we knew that we are not special, and chances are if we were having an issue, someone else probably had it before us and someone posted the solution for it.
b) we are here because we enjoy learning about our devices and our OS's and, given that this is XDA-developers, not XDA-support-my-non-searching-ass, we kinda expect others to do the same.
It's not about not having enough time: it's about coming to the realization that if you can search and post the answer, the person asking the question can easily to the same. It would probably help to phrase a question more like "i was looking for an answer for issue X, and I came up with Y. I am not sure if it fully applies in my situation. Any thoughts?" instead of "I haz issue X. Puuleez help!"
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My knowledge of search improved my vocabulary and reading skills.
Thanks XDA!!!:laugh:
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i dont think so, there are new devices coming out every month, and new ROMS and firmware updates by Google, so there will always be new developments and questions regarding those
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lol, i know. it was just sarcasm. but really, i dont mind the repetitive threads. people are people, some degree of laziness runs in all our genes. anyways, xda search isnt the best to find stuff. but, that said, google search works wonderfully. just about any kind of information can be found using google and the right search terms. personally, id rather find what information i need by myself. unfortunately, there are those people that like being told how and what to do, but its a good thing that a large number of those people use the iphone :victory:
OK so here is a pressure relief thread... While many of you are becoming disenchanted with the way the development threads are running... Yes I am talking about the DEVELOPMENT THREADS! Please indicate the following
What do you think they are (development threads)?
How do you think they should be run?
Do you feel that Modding is not needed? If not/If so why?
What would you change if you could be top of this list for a day Please realize this list is very short..
It's simply used
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I think more, many more, mods are needed for each forum. It's difficult got one, or two or three, people to effectively "police" one forum. Last i checked, there were over/about 3 million users on xda. How many mods are there?
And people not using search.
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I think more, many more, mods are needed for each forum. It's difficult got one, or two or three, people to effectively "police" one forum. Last i checked, there were over/about 3 million users on xda. How many mods are there?
And people not using search.
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10 oh wait 9, Red5 is gone
Overall, there's only 9 mods for the whole site, or just in S3 forum?
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Overall, there's only 9 mods for the whole site, or just in S3 forum?
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And those 9 are busy busy busy. I don't understand why people keep posting EVERYTHING thsy want in development threads
What ever happened to RED?
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What ever happened to RED?
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Red has taken personal time. Family, health and work are keeping him very occupied
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And those 9 are busy busy busy. I don't understand why people keep posting EVERYTHING thsy want in development threads
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Because they feel ENTITLED to do whatever they want to do. Because its a public forum. Its a new generation of users who don't quite understand just how important the developer title is in xda developers.
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Red has taken personal time. Family, health and work are keeping him very occupied
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thanks, Didnt know that. Hope all is well with him
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Because they feel ENTITLED to do whatever they want to do. Because its a public forum. Its a new generation of users who don't quite understand just how important the developer title is in xda developers.
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hey man thanks for your 2 cents Can you please bring your disdain to WebOS and see how they feel about that! LOL
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OK so here is a pressure relief thread... While many of you are becoming disenchanted with the way the development threads are running... Yes I am talking about the DEVELOPMENT THREADS! Please indicate the following
What do you think they are (development threads)?
How do you think they should be run?
Do you feel that Modding is not needed? If not/If so why?
What would you change if you could be top of this list for a day Please realize this list is very short..
It's simply used
for example
Please do not make this personal, act like grown-ups and be constructive
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I think development threads should be a place to discuss development issues such as bugs, possible wish lists, explanation of why things work certain ways, etc. I think that Q&A's should be reserved for just commonly asked questions.
In a perfect world a dev thread would be a place where guys could joke and cut up and still get work done. The problem with that however is that we want people to read threads so they don't ask/re-ask "stupid or non-dev related" questions, yet sometimes there is so much joking around in a thread that you can go 3-4 pages no problem without reading a single thing relevant to the ROM. Why would someone new to the scene want to read and find a golden nugget of information if that requires wading through nonsense? You can say "use the search function!!!!?!?!?*" but let's be honest, if you don't search the right thing you won't find what you are looking for. If you don't know the correct name of your problem, you can't search for your problem, so when you ask questions guys say "Why don't you search" or "Why don't you read" and the answer is, because I'm new and can't read through all the bull in the thread.
I'm all for people having a good time but it's frustrating when you get home from work and you see there are 20 new pages in a thread and there could be a few important posts but to find them you have to read through nonsense.
Just my 2 cents. I love XDA and regardless how it's run the community is great, the Devs are top notch both programming wise and character wise in my experience, but I do get frustrated when I'm tweaking a $600 phone and I can't find necessary information because 20 people keep replying to the same old questions with "Go search you noob-loser!"
Probably a very dumb newbie question, but - I haven't been able to determine/discern the distinction between the Android Development and the Original Android Development threads. Could someone please clue me in?
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The android development thread is usually devoted to people who are hacking or tweaking the stock rom that came with the phone. The original android development thread is a place where people discuss roms being developed based off of the original android source code AOSP/AOKP (such as cm9 or cm10 or putting out custom kernels.
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Probably a very dumb newbie question, but - I haven't been able to determine/discern the distinction between the Android Development and the Original Android Development threads. Could someone please clue me in?
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In very general terms, Original Android Development is for 'Original' development. New roms, kernels, mods and such. Android Development could simply be a port of an existing rom or kernel to run on our device. It very probably has been, or is being used elsewhere and someone has made some changes to allow it to be used on our device.
Hope this helps some. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762948
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Because they feel ENTITLED to do whatever they want to do. Because its a public forum. Its a new generation of users who don't quite understand just how important the developer title is in xda developers.
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Actually a really good point. 2, even 1 year ago there were a lot less people using android phones, even less hacking and modding. And now, especially with the S3 (and others), there has been a flood of new 'techies' that want the fastest, coolest phone on the planet. It probably boils down to an appreciation (or lack there of) of what it takes to make all that happen. Many are new to XDA and, just like this generation is prone to do, want to skip right to the end of the book, without reading the story first. I'm sorry, maybe I should say, "fast forward to the end of the movie, without watching the plot". Maybe we should have them run thru a XDA tutorial first before they're allowed posting priviledges or something. :silly: Just my 2 cents...
As a developer (not on xda) I fully understand the time and work the great developers put in, and as an android user I am very gracious. Not sure if its just me but my experience dealing with bug reporting and asking for help in development threads has not been easy. Mainly if the issue has already been addressed you always get flamed for not searching before you post. Its like some developers would rather argue for 3 pages to satisfy their ego than just answer a simple question.
Still apart from dealing with egos, its well worth it for the service they provide.
hey guys that have posted here, send the disgruntled user here. I know most of you that have posted so far and we tend to all be like minded. I really want to hear from the folks that aren't in the same frame of mind. I am interested in how they tick. What are their thoughts on this matter.
Tomween1,
Here is my issue. I have been an xda member for a few years now and I have never seen as much trolling and s#!t talking as I have seen here in the s3 forum. When I joined people here were helpful and every time someone helped me with a problem I intern helped the next person with a similar problem. But everything has gone down the drain over the last year or so.
now here are my concerns...
First.... The addition of a second development thread for just cm and AOKP is pointless in my opinion.
Second... If you have a ROM running on your phone... ie... Cyanogenmod CM10.... Then all discussion of bugs and flaws and features specific to that rom should be discussed in that thread. The search tool should be used before a new post and as much information should be provided to help dev duplicate and resolve problem
Third.... If the Rom is not installed.... You don't know how to install it.... Or you wonder how the battery life is or how one rom is compared to the other.... Then go to general or q&a
Finally.... Show some f#@*in respect. It doesn't matter if you are a dev or not.... You chose to develop for a phone.... You chose to post it on xda... You agreed to abide by xda rules which means show members respect.... Even if they are a noob who asked a dumb question in the wrong forums.
Moderators shouldn't be deleting as many posts as you guys are.... It's borderline pointless and it's censorship.
If you made a ROM be respectful to your fans... And if you don't want to answer questions then let other members answer people...
Good examples of threads were the devs are respectful and mods have to work less are Caulkins threads cyanogens threads... Worst example of needless hostility and over moderating is Tasks AOKP thread
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Also a more useful approach would be to have all ROMS & KERNELS in one development thread and all mods / hacks / feature ports in a separate dev thread...
I think one of the main reasons devs get frustrated and its been mentioned many times, dev forums are not the place to learn or expect handouts. The handout is givin with the ROM. Now its up to the end user to learn how to use it, search out problems and try to solve things themselves. Everyone is worried about thier new 600 dollar toy but not many noobs take the time to learn what they are actually doin to their phone. The dev forums are not the place to learn. The dev forums are a place to get the latest greatest and reply with "heres my problem, here's my log cat" after searching for an answer. It seems pretty simple to me. Although not a dev it would piss me off also to clearly state in an op that your phone won't do the dishes, then have 6 or 8 people say that you ruined their phone cause they threw it in a sink of water. As far as letting other people answer the questions, that's the reason for the q and a threads, to let the community help itself. No one should be posting in the dev forum without a logcat.
My two cents, take it or leave it doesn't matter.
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I think one of the main reasons devs get frustrated and its been mentioned many times, dev forums are not the place to learn or expect handouts. The handout is givin with the ROM. Now its up to the end user to learn how to use it, search out problems and try to solve things themselves. Everyone is worried about thier new 600 dollar toy but not many noobs take the time to learn what they are actually doin to their phone. The dev forums are not the place to learn. The dev forums are a place to get the latest greatest and reply with "heres my problem, here's my log cat" after searching for an answer. It seems pretty simple to me. Although not a dev it would piss me off also to clearly state in an op that your phone won't do the dishes, then have 6 or 8 people say that you ruined their phone cause they threw it in a sink of water. As far as letting other people answer the questions, that's the reason for the q and a threads, to let the community help itself. No one should be posting in the dev forum without a logcat.
My two cents, take it or leave it doesn't matter.
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That is the problem - people who are posting here are being told to go F*%$ off instead of being asked to provide a logcat or provide details. Also alot of Devs in s3 forums are not providing complete bug lists in the OP and if they did they are not keeping it updated so when a noob or someone new to the rom comes to check they cant find the info and ask dumb questions.
I've been in the XDA community for 6 years now, and I've seen a TON of changes here. What I now see the moderators trying to do is add a little bit of order to the madness. The dev threads were specifically designed(and ALWAYS have been) for Development and development issues only, not even about wish lists. When a developer has to pour through pages and pages of "I wish the ROM had this, or how do I install this ROM, or why does my (fill in the blank), not work". It get very frustrating to find posts from people, who are posting real issues that affect the actual development of the ROM.
It is suppose to be the place that the guy/gals who are putting their time into these ROM's that we get for free, get the feedback from us, the endusers, to actually make the ROM's better. When we clutter the thread with jibberish, we're making it harder for them to get to those real issues, and are disrespecting them and the time they invest, and in the end, we're only shooting ourselves in the foot
While I was on the AT&T Captivate, we had a similar structure of the Dev thread, and a Q&A thread for most of the available ROM's, some of the dev's didn't seem to mind answering all of those questions, but the Q&A still existed, and they all seemed to be very successful. They were very lax and the topics could got entirely off topic, they seemed to be more of the "social hangout" type of thing. Take a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=746
With the incredible popularity of the SGSIII in all of the variants, there are bound to be tons's of ROM's that will crop up for JB. I believe it's that much more important to try to create some sort of structure for the 4Million + XDA mambers
First off I know that this isn't the correct forum for this, but I personally think this needs to be in with the ROMs.
My battery life is okay on Xenon, but terrible on AOKP JB 3. Does anybody have any real experiences with resolving this? I would like to stay on AOKP but the battery is draining like a cracked bottle.
I'm currently on the newest AOKP build, with the newest radios.
Thanks guys
Also I am running Nova launcher. Does this drain the battery significantly compared to Stock?
Dear poster,
Regardless of whether or not you feel this thread should be in with the ROMs you would be feeling wrong. This is a DEVELOPMENT section & since you didn't DEVELOP anything your post in a DEVELOPMENT section would be wrong.
Best regards,
Me
Ps..
In regards to your battery question please install CPU Spy and/or Better Battery Stats and see what is draining your battery on whichever ROM you're using. Once you know what it is, much like that odor coming from the trash can, you can eliminate it or work to resolve it.
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wroder84 said:
First off I know that this isn't the correct forum for this, but I personally think this needs to be in with the ROMs.
My battery life is okay on Xenon, but terrible on AOKP JB 3. Does anybody have any real experiences with resolving this? I would like to stay on AOKP but the battery is draining like a cracked bottle.
I'm currently on the newest AOKP build, with the newest radios.
Thanks guys
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Hey guys, I read the rules but F it, I'll post this off topic in development lol. Rules are meant to be broken, right?
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Dude, if nothing else, post this in the thread for AOKP JB and not a new thread. but to answer your question, some people seem to be experiencing worse battery on JB. look through the Q&A forum or the AOKP Thread.
Still not development.
General forum.
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phydo said:
Dude, if nothing else, post this in the thread for AOKP JB and not a new thread. but to answer your question, some people seem to be experiencing worse battery on JB. look through the Q&A forum or the AOKP Thread.
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yeah why didn't this guy just post in the aokp thread?! Some people just don't have heads
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Admin please move this morons thread
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Knucleheads! Man you guys are a waste of time! I'm at least glad some people on here are over the age of 16.
In the OP's defense, I have been around a while (and admittedly haven't read the TOS, but am vaguely familiar with it) and I have seen several threads get moved out of the development section and thought to myself "why did they move that?" It was relevant to development. It was about developers roms.
For example, this thread is about how different roms affect battery life. His question (at least the way I read it) isn't really specifically about AOKP, but more generally why do different roms affect battery life so much, and how do I resolve it.
I figured the development section was for issues and topics about developers and their roms, and development in general. I didn't realize it was only for developers to post.
And then what is also weird, is his question would've been completely appropriate in the AOKP thread (which is located in this developers section of the forums). So posting this sort of thing in the development section is fine, but starting a new thread about it is apparently bad for some reason?
I have yet to understand this.
But it's not my forum, so I'll follow the rules as best I understand them.
Just sayin.
Read forum rules before posting
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Knucleheads! Man you guys are a waste of time! I'm at least glad some people on here are over the age of 16.
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You make a vague post about battery life between 2 roms, oh yeah in the wrong section and we're the knucleheads, well now that sure is the pot calling the kettle black. Smarten up noob
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Knucleheads! Man you guys are a waste of time! I'm at least glad some people on here are over the age of 16.
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So let me get this straight.. you knowingly broke the rules and are annoyed at us? My child has more sense than this and knows if you break the rules there are consequences. Since we can't put you back in a kennel or swat your nose with a news paper your, knowingly, incorrect post was mocked. Also, fwiw, I answered your question by providing you information on how to narrow down your issue.
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In the OP's defense, I have been around a while (and admittedly haven't read the TOS, but am vaguely familiar with it) and I have seen several threads get moved out of the development section and thought to myself "why did they move that?" It was relevant to development. It was about developers roms.
For example, this thread is about how different roms affect battery life. His question (at least the way I read it) isn't really specifically about AOKP, but more generally why do different roms affect battery life so much, and how do I resolve it.
I figured the development section was for issues and topics about developers and their roms, and development in general. I didn't realize it was only for developers to post.
And then what is also weird, is his question would've been completely appropriate in the AOKP thread (which is located in this developers section of the forums). So posting this sort of thing in the development section is fine, but starting a new thread about it is apparently bad for some reason?
I have yet to understand this.
But it's not my forum, so I'll follow the rules as best I understand them.
Just sayin.
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One just need open their eyes. There are ZERO question threads in the development section, there is actually a thread called "Thread DELETED/Locked??? This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!!" in there pointing out the rule. I swear the internet is making people retarded. I leave you with some words of wisdom from Tommy Boy,
... its called reading, top to bottom, left to right, group words together as a sentence, take tylenol for any headaches, midol for any cramps ...
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So let me get this straight.. you knowingly broke the rules and are annoyed at us? My child has more sense than this and knows if you break the rules there are consequences. Since we can't put you back in a kennel or swat your nose with a news paper your, knowingly, incorrect post was mocked. Also, fwiw, I answered your question by providing you information on how to narrow down your issue.
One just need open their eyes. There are ZERO question threads in the development section, there is actually a thread called "Thread DELETED/Locked??? This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!!" in there pointing out the rule. I swear the internet is making people retarded. I leave you with some words of wisdom from Tommy Boy,
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It's called having a life, and not wanting to spend 20 minutes of that life reading a boring @ss TOS, when you're a member of about 20 forums, you kinda figure the TOS's are all basically the same. I'll bet you also read the instructions when you buy a new phone. lol
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So let me get this straight.. you knowingly broke the rules and are annoyed at us? My child has more sense than this and knows if you break the rules there are consequences. Since we can't put you back in a kennel or swat your nose with a news paper your, knowingly, incorrect post was mocked. Also, fwiw, I answered your question by providing you information on how to narrow down your issue.
One just need open their eyes. There are ZERO question threads in the development section, there is actually a thread called "Thread DELETED/Locked??? This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!!" in there pointing out the rule. I swear the internet is making people retarded. I leave you with some words of wisdom from Tommy Boy,
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As far as the "Thread DELETED/Locked???" thread goes, first of all that is a question thread so it should be moved to the Q/A section, lol. Secondly, I've never had any of my threads deleted or locked. If I do, I'll be sure and give that a once over. Thanks!
PS. Excuse the hell out of me for trying to be the one understanding guy in a sea of flaming douchebags.
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It's called having a life, and not wanting to spend 20 minutes of that life reading a boring @ss TOS, when you're a member of about 20 forums, you kinda figure the TOS's are all basically the same. I'll bet you also read the instructions when you buy a new phone. lol
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I wasn't trying to flame you I was trying to educate you. You can have a life, be a member of 20 forums (as we all are), and assume the rules are the same (which they are for the most part) and still read & be aware of your surroundings & actions. None of the "heavy hitter" forums (xda, rootz, droidforums, galaxynexusforum) is it allowed to post questions in the development section. Why would they have a Q&A or a General section if you were meant to post questions, make requests, or report news in the development section? Even entering the Development section all you see is ROM, mod, and kernel releases so why would anyone think it would be okay to post a question there? They would think it's okay because A) the didn't open their eyes and read or B) blatantly (as this OP did) ignored the rules.
And yes - I do read the instructions when I purchase a new phone (provided it comes with any). I don't know about you but I like to know how my devices function completely so I get all the usage I can out of them. I prefer to not be the one posting questions like "I took my phone out of the box now how do I turn it on?" like so many other people do these days.
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Back on topic.... The OP's issue appears to be a ROM issue with build 3. READING over there in the AOKP thread it seems to be a common theme over there. Per my original suggestion I would install CPU Spy and/or a battery monitoring app to see what is causing the issues. Perhaps providing a logcat or some sort of additional information to the AOKP team would be more beneficial to finding a solution to your battery woes.
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PS. Excuse the hell out of me for trying to be the one understanding guy in a sea of flaming douchebags.
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You're no better then the rest of us. Get off your high horse.
If you're gonna knowingly post in the wrong forum because you believe its acceptable, be prepared to either get no help or, at best, sarcastic answers. We stick to the rules, why shouldn't you?
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killyouridols said:
You're no better then the rest of us. Get off your high horse.
If you're gonna knowingly post in the wrong forum because you believe its acceptable, be prepared to either get no help or, at best, sarcastic answers. We stick to the rules, why shouldn't you?
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All I am saying is I can understand why someone would post a question about developers' roms in the development section.
I didn't say I was better than anybody but that last guy I was replying to. I'm definitely better than him. lol
Anyway, sometimes rules are stupid, and I can follow them even though I think they are stupid, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are still stupid. Probably a limited amount of devs spend any time in the Q/A section, so if you have a question for devs, it might take a long time to get answered there. Questions about Android in general, or hardware, or accessories, or functionality that is not rom-specific certainly belong in the Q/A section (going on logic, not the rules) but plenty of questions are logically appropriate for this forum too.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what I think. I didn't make or break the rules.
I've never read the TOS, but yet somehow I've managed to never have one of my threads removed or relocated. So I am not saying that the rules are so cryptic, I don't see how anyone could ever figure them out. But at the same time, I don't see the logic behind them, and a little restructuring never hurt anyone.
For example, the development section could use some more sub-forums in my opinion. It's a cluster in there.
I have basically made shortcuts for all the threads I give a crap about, and just go there directly and avoid the main forum, because even the most popular rom threads get lost in the crowd.
I Agree. The forums can be a bit vague, however, the OP Clearly knew this wasn't the place to post it, but did anyway. This is the exact reason this place is so clustered and why questions fail to get answered at times.
If the OP knows better, why do it? Posting what you want where you want is just disrespectful to the mods and us users.
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Oh my lord. The thread was moved, the question addressed, and the mistake made known. Let it die.
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There is captcha and 10 post rule to prevent SPAM and stupidity.
Question is if this 10 post rule is harmful or useful?
Personally I find it harmful I and many, I think most people made first 10 stupid posts or just lurking because of this rule.
There is less feedback and more spam posts to get to 10 and more problem related personal messages spamming developers.
Posts "downloading it now" "testing" are meaningless and not punished.
Is it right way? Is there an alternative or chance to lower limit?
I'm on the same opinion.
I registered me here for giving a feedback to a rom developer and then i mentioned that i must make 10 posts to be able to answer in a developer area.
U've got it all wrong mates! Its a very good rule actually.
Read and see for yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
There is also a guide in it on how to best use this rule.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
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Trust me, it's VERY useful. it might be a little bit of a chore for new users, but in the long term it helps mods and users.
before it was in place, the moderators spent so much of their time cleaning up spam bots or new members posting questions in the wrong (dev) forums. This meant less time was spent dealing with the real important issues.
With this 10 post limit in place, it has really reduced the amount of useless posts, giving mods more time to do what they're here to do
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(link to the post and thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40101315&postcount=137)
This user has just 2 posts and is able to post in the development section. I have seen this several times and I'd like to know how is it possible? I had to make 10 usefull posts to enter the development section and be able to give feedback to the developers..
Perhaps an idea for the admins here to check it out? I've seen this on several places..
mrjraider said:
Well I'd like to present you this screenshot:
(link to the post and thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40101315&postcount=137)
This user has just 2 posts and is able to post in the development section. I have seen this several times and I'd like to know how is it possible? I had to make 10 usefull posts to enter the development section and be able to give feedback to the developers..
Perhaps an idea for the admins here to check it out? I've seen this on several places..
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I don't know for this particular case, but I have seen this several times before. I have noticed it happen when a user has decided to start doing 10-post spam just to get access to the Development forums. They have then posted in the Dev forum, after which time a Mod has deleted the spam posts they had previously made. This causes them to appear as posting in the Dev forums with less than 10 posts.
SimonTS said:
I don't know for this particular case, but I have seen this several times before. I have noticed it happen when a user has decided to start doing 10-post spam just to get access to the Development forums. They have then posted in the Dev forum, after which time a Mod has deleted the spam posts they had previously made. This causes them to appear as posting in the Dev forums with less than 10 posts.
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Well it is strange. Since I also notice users who made an account on a date (lets say 14 april) get 1 post and be able to post in the development section. If they make 10 spam/useless post to get access to development. Perhaps an idea to delete the post(s) they made at the development?
About these posters, maybe their posts were deleted, but counter still works?
About me 10 posts rule kept me pissed off for 2 years.
Why would anyone feel that basically spamming in order to meet the 10-post limit is a good idea? What's wrong with posting as your first 10 posts meaningful and purposeful ones?
Here at XDA, we tend to think of ourselves as one big helpful community and making nonsense posts just to get what you want makes others feel like you're not serious about this site or what we're trying to do here.
Maybe 10 posts is too much...
10 posts is too much.
10 posts is not too much. Believe me that it can be done within an hour or so, just go to Q&A section and answer few questions. The problem is that some users posts just to say thanks or ask a question in the development thread, which shouldn't be a main goal.
This rule prevents spammers from posting in the development sections and makes our forum much cleaner
I joined this site knowing absolutely nothing about Android. Yet I was able to make ten legitimate posts the first day I joined. If you are so bewildered by Android that you cannot do that it's probably for the best you stay out of posting in the dev forums until you learn more - and it's in your own interest to learn more so you don't brick your device.
IMO, 10 is still less.. People in several threads are making unnecessary posts. I have seen many people who are just making threads / posts for just posting in Dev threads, which are really mean for Devs & there Co-originators.
This has been discussed at least a million times.
Thread reported.
No ones forcing anyone to be here.
Tbh this forum is A LOT more lenient than others I frequent.
If you really need to post that freakin bad go make a fb account!
Read , ask a question , read some more, ask another question, post a helpfull comment here and there... next thing ya know BAM!
Ten posts! :thumbup:
So many reasons but heres the real one:
"Dems da rules!!!!"
:beer:
cippa lippa said:
completely awful this rule...i want to post in one section because i have that smartphone for ex and i'm interested about that area...i can't!i have to write 10 posts...i wrote, i post on (for my example xperia p topics) that area, i helped one person and i shared my opinion with others to improve rom, or to say great job for example, they cancel my post because i think they thought it was spam...!why?it's non sense this rule, blocked just new users like me want to share informations...i don't care about spam, i work, i'm musician, violinist, i don't care to lose time spamming...
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well for one, a few of your posts where 3 words and purely to boost your post count and secondly, one of your posts was made to advertise an app in a thread totally unrelated, hence it was deemed as spam and deleted
Also, as stated, if you do not like this rule you are free to leave, no one is forcing you to stay. We find the 10 post rule is a good measure to prevent spammers and also benefits the site with less clutter of useless posts and people asking repeated questions. All you have to do is help other by answering a few questions in Q&A forums/threads
cippa lippa said:
that's the fact, i'm interested to xperia p thread because other things i really don't know...how can i post to topics i don't know?
ANYWAY ok for some posts, three words (just because i wanted to post in xperia p thread) but you cancel post i helped one user, and post i shared informations very useful to other users! why? this is completely nonsense!
It's not a good phrase say "nobody force you to stay here" or "this is the rule, if you don't like go away", we are talking and share thinking, it's not very useful say that from you
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Guy, making ten helpful posts is not hard, all it takes is a little research and effort.
Sent from the phalanges of my hand to the facet of your cranium.
yes this is stupid. you can have lots of experiances about android but you must write 10 stupid answers/questions
sorry for my bad english
Sent from my Xperia Sola using xda app-developers app
amnesia82 said:
Maybe 10 posts is too much...
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