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The JbedJava_20070622_2_1 (Java Midlet Manager) usually included in most WM6 ROMS (Schaps, D-Lite, TNT 2.0... etc.) no longer works starting Sept 1, 2007. Is this some kind of trial version? This is an excellent java manager which I use solely for Opera Mini Beta (Best web browser I've seen so far.. a definite iPhone killer ).
Is there a known fix for this other than resetting the date/time settings everytime I want to use it?
Thanks!
I noticed that same problem was reported here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1480564
SOLUTION FOUND HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665&postcount=24
perhaps there is some way to use MortScript to automate the date changing? Even if that would work, it'd be frustrating if one needs to check the date while using Opera Mini...
I hate to hijack this thread a little but I've had trouble uninstalling an older version of the Tao IntentMM, and thus, can't install a new version. version 11.1.7.1034 allows things to be installed, but they always end up with the standard "lightbulb" icon, then whenever I try to run the app, it reads "Failed to run the MIDlet". Then when I try to uninstall it, it reads "Failed to uninstall". Is this a known issue? If so, is there a fix?
use the Tao one instead? Seems fine to me running opera min beta
DaVince said:
The JbedJava_20070622_2_1 (Java Midlet Manager) usually included in most WM6 ROMS (Schaps, D-Lite, TNT 2.0... etc.) no longer works starting Sept 1, 2007. Is this some kind of trial version? This is an excellent java manager which I use solely for Opera Mini Beta (Best web browser I've seen so far.. a definite iPhone killer ).
Is there a known fix for this other than resetting the date/time settings everytime I want to use it?
Thanks!
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ummmmm, we've already cracked the jbed days before, and released here: http://www.kloriator.com/article.asp?id=108
we'll release the oem package anna cab file later...
bigruss said:
use the Tao one instead? Seems fine to me running opera min beta
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Really? I tried Tao before but it freezes once in a while with Opera Mini Beta. I'll try it again and see what happens.
monkeysheva said:
ummmmm, we've already cracked the jbed days before, and released here: http://www.kloriator.com/article.asp?id=108
we'll release the oem package anna cab file later...
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Would've been nice if it wasn't a Chinese site.. i'll just try clicking all the links then.. haha..
DaVince said:
Really? I tried Tao before but it freezes once in a while with Opera Mini Beta. I'll try it again and see what happens.
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yeah opera now has beta 2 for the opera mini 4 and so far its alot more stable now!
The Tao Midlet manager sucks..
I prefer running Opera Mini on fullscreen, and you can't do it on Tao. Jbed does it a lot better. It works smoother too..
DaVince said:
The Tao Midlet manager sucks..
I prefer running Opera Mini on fullscreen, and you can't do it on Tao. Jbed does it a lot better. It works smoother too..
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/signed it's really much better
hey brothers, could anyone try the attached please
(just for those have JbedJava_20070622_2_1 in the same rom)
please install it on the main memory then reset your device
[[ cab removed, check the one in next posts ]]
Unfortunately, still doesn't work.. same thing happens.. it just quits.
(It doesn't create a shortcut on the Programs menu by the way, i just clicked the exe file on the Windows directory)
I didn't notice that same problem was reported here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1480564
DaVince said:
Unfortunately, still doesn't work.. same thing happens.. it just quits.
(It doesn't create a shortcut on the Programs menu by the way, i just clicked the exe file on the Windows directory)
I didn't notice that same problem was reported here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1480564
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it doesn't work for me too.
ok i will see what can i do, at the moment i will attach 20070425_1_1 version.exe file, if you totalcomand (file explorer) copy it to windows folder and try to replace
just let me try myself before
Thanks. I do hope that changing the exe file with an older version would do the trick.
[SOLVED]
just install the attached and will ask you to reset, accept restarting and wait
i tried and 100% worked
DaVince please edit the first post and the title with Fixed word, really no time
its right said:
[SOLVED]
just install the attached and will ask you to reset, accept restarting and wait
i tried and 100% worked
DaVince please edit the first post and the title with Fixed word, really no time
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You are a lifesaver. Now I can use Opera Mini again! Yay!
Unfortunately, it's an old version and very unstable and NOT fullscreen.
EDIT: Spoke too soon.. it has too many problems.. the dragging doesn't even work. This is not really a solution.
mine still doenst work.. 8( even with the fixes.. 8(
its right just used the Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1.
It's not really a fix. It's just the older version.
DaVince said:
You are a lifesaver. Now I can use Opera Mini again! Yay!
Unfortunately, it's an old version and very unstable and NOT fullscreen.
EDIT: Spoke too soon.. it has too many problems.. the dragging doesn't even work. This is not really a solution.
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don't worry bro, i'm a daily java user and should looking for something new
i think i found one with newer build than 22-06-2007
but let me check myself before
You're a java user too.. nice.. that's very comforting.. that means you will really find a way to make this work.
I love your ROM btw.
can anyone point the way to a download for opera mini? thanks for the help
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/
are you that lazy? google my friend
My friend, thats not opera mini, thats normal opera which i already have. Thanks anyway for your help
goto www.operamini.com on your PPC
molesaied88 said:
My friend, thats not opera mini, thats normal opera which i already have. Thanks anyway for your help
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seriously, you couldn't go to opera.com and figure it out your self?
I mean SERIOUSLY?
seriously, have you tried it? when you go to opera.com it says go to a site from you phone, when i do that it downloads a .jad file, which ive never heard of before, if you have please enlighten me
molesaied88 said:
seriously, have you tried it? when you go to opera.com it says go to a site from you phone, when i do that it downloads a .jad file, which ive never heard of before, if you have please enlighten me
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You need to have java installed (Jbed or Esmertec) then the jad file will open, and install opera mini. Do that, then goto www.operamini.com in pocket IE.
thank you for the help
quick question, is Jbed free software, or do i pay for it? the reason i ask is because on my brothers wing, i rom that he download cam pre installed with opera mini, and im having a bit of trouble finding a link to download, i get things like single user liscence and what not, which i may be wrong but i dont belieave is right
Here you go. Install this, and then double click on the .jad file. It will install. Then to run opera, just click on the java icon in programs and choose "opera"
This worked for me!
http://rapidshare.com/files/91673510/Schaps_JbedJava_MIDP_0_0_20070822_1_1_WWE.CAB.html
Give the guy a break, I was confused when I went on the Opera site as well...
tora201 said:
Here you go. Install this, and then double click on the .jad file. It will install. Then to run opera, just click on the java icon in programs and choose "opera"
This worked for me!
http://rapidshare.com/files/91673510/Schaps_JbedJava_MIDP_0_0_20070822_1_1_WWE.CAB.html
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I run it with esmertec jbed and have tweaked it to open with one click without the confirmation messages. Operamini rox....but the new NetFront is even more powerful!
FYI. Checkout this excellent thread regarding Opera Mini. If you use Mort Script, you can make Opera Mini function like the default browser, i.e. open links from emails, etc. I posed my own script (based on Menneisyys's - Thanks!), which works great on my Hermes running WM6.0 and jmm.exe (TAO).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347689&page=6
I've never heard of NetFront. Is it freeware?
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.10222-advanced-int.jad
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.10222-advanced-int.jar
Mini Opera 4.0.10222 English International version.
Download both files to your PC, transfer to your Pocket PC, place in one folder, then tap on the JAD file. That's it.
Here you can download various languages.
doctorchan said:
I run it with esmertec jbed and have tweaked it to open with one click without the confirmation messages. Operamini rox....but the new NetFront is even more powerful!
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I also have Esmertec Jbed. Could you please tell us how you manage to tweak it? It really bugs when it asks for connectivity permission.
Thanks in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344622
Hello everybody,
I've figured a few things out regarding JBed and Opera Mini on Kavana's latest WM6.1 ROM, and I thought I'd share them with you.
Introduction
First off, a quick introduction: Opera Mini 4, a Java MIDlet web browser, is arguably the best browser available for Windows Mobile. It routes traffic through Opera servers, so it doesn't take as much data (or time) to browse the Web, and it has small-screen rendering like iPhone's. Slashdot, for example, loads in seconds under OM, as opposed to half an hour in Pocket IE. Esmertec JBed respects the system's network settings, so it works with the T-Zones $5.99 internet trick.
JBed isn't perfect, though. It has a few glaring issues: network access permissions, inability to use a MIDlet as a systemwide default browser, and ugly fonts. I haven't figured out the last one yet, but the first two are solvable, and here's how.
Network Access Permissions
Most tutorials for fixing this problem refer to the file \Windows\AppDB\Selector.utf; editing this file and replacing the text
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
with
Code:
domain=tckmax , \
fixes the problem under Cloudyfa's JBed. The version of JBed in Kavana's WM6.1 stores its data in \Application Data\JavaDB, and the selector.utf trick doesn't work. The culprit is a missing file named policy.utf, which defines tckmax. I've attached a copy of this file; just move it to your \Application Data\JavaDB directory and the selector.utf trick will work as usual.
Systemwide Default Browser
First off, you can make it easier to access Opera Mini by changing the short_IE.lnk file to open OM instead of PIE. I've attached a version of that file for your convenience; copy it to your \Windows directory and the IE (or T-Zones) button will open a usable browser for a change. This only works if OM is the first MIDlet you've installed; if you have installed other MIDlets you'll have to edit the shortcut (Notepad works nicely) to reflect the change. If OM is your second MIDlet, change s0_ to s1_; third, s2_; and so on.
Also, various MortScript scripts have been floating around that attempt to automate the process of copying a clicked link to the system clipboard, opening OM, and pasting the link into the address bar. I haven't found one that works, but a much better solution is available. The linked post contains a CAB file (which I've reposted here for convenience) that installs an actual application that works well under WM6.1. This one is hardcoded with the assumption that Opera Mini is the first MIDlet that you've installed.
One Other Thing
I recommend backing up your \Application Data\JavaDB directory once you get everything working; you can simply copy it back from your backup after a cold boot to get everything working again. I don't know how to make a CAB file myself, but if someone is up to the challenge, I'd suggest making a single file that installs Opera Mini and the Opera Mini Default Browser application, and optionally replaces the PIE button with OM. Or maybe Kavana can add this to his next ROM
Hope you find this useful!
EDIT: The application I've attached only works if Opera Mini is the first application ever installed under JBed. If you uninstall it and reinstall it, it will get a new suite number. You can look at your selector.utf file and figure out your suite number (e.g., s1_), but I would recommend clearing out your \Application Data\JavaDB folder to reset your suite numbers. Also, it may be a bad idea to edit your selector.utf file in Notepad; a hex editor should avoid corruption issues.
~truggl
awesome! thanks!
very useful, thanks!
Great Job!!
How do you tell what the s number is for the OM midlet?
When I press the short key cut key I get a "Could not find suite s0_" error message. When I dismiss the message I get the jbed midlet manager window which list Opera Mini and it's the only applet listed. I click on that and Opera Mini opens up.
Perfect, the policy.utf file did the trick. I'm not so sure that I want to replace the iexplore shortcut to OM because there are still some limits to the OM applet over PIE. OM can't launch youtube for example.
Thank you ... thank you - Tim
truggl said:
Hello everybody,
I've figured a few things out regarding JBed and Opera Mini on Kavana's latest WM6.1 ROM, and I thought I'd share them with you.
Introduction
First off, a quick introduction: Opera Mini 4, a Java MIDlet web browser, is arguably the best browser available for Windows Mobile. It routes traffic through Opera servers, so it doesn't take as much data (or time) to browse the Web, and it has small-screen rendering like iPhone's. Slashdot, for example, loads in seconds under OM, as opposed to half an hour in Pocket IE. Esmertec JBed respects the system's network settings, so it works with the T-Zones $5.99 internet trick.
JBed isn't perfect, though. It has a few glaring issues: network access permissions, inability to use a MIDlet as a systemwide default browser, and ugly fonts. I haven't figured out the last one yet, but the first two are solvable, and here's how.
Network Access Permissions
Most tutorials for fixing this problem refer to the file \Windows\AppDB\Selector.utf; editing this file and replacing the text
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
with
Code:
domain=tckmax , \
fixes the problem under Cloudyfa's JBed. The version of JBed in Kavana's WM6.1 stores its data in \Application Data\JavaDB, and the selector.utf trick doesn't work. The culprit is a missing file named policy.utf, which defines tckmax. I've attached a copy of this file; just move it to your \Application Data\JavaDB directory and the selector.utf trick will work as usual.
Systemwide Default Browser
First off, you can make it easier to access Opera Mini by changing the short_IE.lnk file to open OM instead of PIE. I've attached a version of that file for your convenience; copy it to your \Windows directory and the IE (or T-Zones) button will open a usable browser for a change. This only works if OM is the first MIDlet you've installed; if you have installed other MIDlets you'll have to edit the shortcut (Notepad works nicely) to reflect the change. If OM is your second MIDlet, change s0_ to s1_; third, s2_; and so on.
Also, various MortScript scripts have been floating around that attempt to automate the process of copying a clicked link to the system clipboard, opening OM, and pasting the link into the address bar. I haven't found one that works, but a much better solution is available. The linked post contains a CAB file (which I've reposted here for convenience) that installs an actual application that works well under WM6.1. This one is hardcoded with the assumption that Opera Mini is the first MIDlet that you've installed.
One Other Thing
I recommend backing up your \Application Data\JavaDB directory once you get everything working; you can simply copy it back from your backup after a cold boot to get everything working again. I don't know how to make a CAB file myself, but if someone is up to the challenge, I'd suggest making a single file that installs Opera Mini and the Opera Mini Default Browser application, and optionally replaces the PIE button with OM. Or maybe Kavana can add this to his next ROM
Hope you find this useful!
~truggl
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Kinda bummed.... I cant seem to get this to work. Everytime I edit selector.utf with the new code, my opera midlet dissappears. I have policy.utf in the directory so I am at a loss. ???
Works great on my system - many thanks for this!
Poser said:
Kinda bummed.... I cant seem to get this to work. Everytime I edit selector.utf with the new code, my opera midlet dissappears. I have policy.utf in the directory so I am at a loss. ???
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I had the same problem. I was using notepad to edit selector.utf which I guess is bad. Try using a hex editor or run this script. http://treo.discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/showthread.php?t=152078
socal1 said:
How do you tell what the s number is for the OM midlet?
When I press the short key cut key I get a "Could not find suite s0_" error message. When I dismiss the message I get the jbed midlet manager window which list Opera Mini and it's the only applet listed. I click on that and Opera Mini opens up.
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I think i figured this issue out. Edit the Opera Mini.lnk file from run s0_ to run s4_
pudgedaddy said:
I think i figured this issue out. Edit the Opera Mini.lnk file from run s0_ to run s4_
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Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.
socal1 said:
I had the same problem. I was using notepad to edit selector.utf which I guess is bad. Try using a hex editor or run this script. http://treo.discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/showthread.php?t=152078
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Worked a charm , thanks much mate
removed: dbl post
DaMilky said:
Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.
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Opera is the only java app that I have installed and I still get the error, however, I have installed and uninstalled a few times... so I think there may be .db remnants that force it further down the "install list" e.g. s2_
edit: just had to clean up \\application data\javaDB, works fine
Hi all,
Glad I was able to help. I added a bit of information to my original post; I recommend starting with a blank slate, so to speak, because OperaDefault.cab is programmed with that assumption. When in doubt about your suite number, and if you don't care about OperaDefault, then you can look in (or post) your selector.utf file and get it from there.
~truggl
Esmertec jbed
Can someone point me to forum where i can get esmertec jbed?
I'm looking for a couple of hours already.
Please help....
Having a very strange problem with Opera Mini 4. I'm using Ricky's Rom V5 with my Dash and Opera will not display fonts correctly. They all seem to have horizontal lines going through them and appear to be slightly stretched (that could be my imagination though). I checked the Jbed version and it appears to be the latest one (I never changed it) and I'm not sure where to go from here. Opera boots and runs fast but it's not legible at all. Any suggestions as to what I can try? I searched XDA but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks,
kasim1 said:
Can someone point me to forum where i can get esmertec jbed?
I'm looking for a couple of hours already.
Please help....
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NM, I found Esmertec.
ItsDon said:
Having a very strange problem with Opera Mini 4. I'm using Ricky's Rom V5 with my Dash and Opera will not display fonts correctly. They all seem to have horizontal lines going through them and appear to be slightly stretched (that could be my imagination though). I checked the Jbed version and it appears to be the latest one (I never changed it) and I'm not sure where to go from here. Opera boots and runs fast but it's not legible at all. Any suggestions as to what I can try? I searched XDA but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks,
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I am having this same problem. Does anyone know how to change the font in Opera Mini?
DaMilky said:
Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.
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NOT TRUE.
I tried to use from s0_ to s4_, nothing worked....
Untill i opened my selector.utf(windows\appdb) and seen that gMail is "root=s-1_", so i've change my shortcut to point to "s-1_", this did the trick.
Thanx.
any way to get this to show up in the start menu rather than opening it up in the java progran?
Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.
hmmm i got the error but i dont think im doin it right im doin it all on my phone at the moment. i downloaded ur zip extracted and th extraction only had the ink in it? but in zip mobile ink and dll was there...
stylez said:
Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.
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when you add this to your phone, when you click on it, does it show the java opening up and you have to then launch opera mini from within the java like usual? or when you click on the shortcut, does it open java and launches opera mini by itself?
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hmmm i got the error but i dont think im doin it right im doin it all on my phone at the moment. i downloaded ur zip extracted and th extraction only had the ink in it? but in zip mobile ink and dll was there...
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Use Resco File Explorer to open the make sure Menu\Options\Browser all is unticked.
Over the .zip click Action\Archive\Extract To
Now follow directions in first post
i get the error message then i have to open on my own in java.. great browser just started using an hour ago
roloracer said:
when you add this to your phone, when you click on it, does it show the java opening up and you have to then launch opera mini from within the java like usual? or when you click on the shortcut, does it open java and launches opera mini by itself?
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It opens up Java and runs Opera Mini all by itself
1Airborne1 said:
i get the error message then i have to open on my own in java.. great browser just started using an hour ago
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What error message?
The more info you provide the more i can help.
stylez said:
It opens up Java and runs Opera Mini all by itself
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Cool, I've been using opera mini for a while now and I think you gave me the shortcut file before, don't remember , I have opera mini in my links panel and the only thing I hate is having to click on it , open java and then launch opera manually.
Another question, when you're exit opera mini, does it exit java also?
roloracer said:
Cool, I've been using opera mini for a while now and I think you gave me the shortcut file before, don't remember , I have opera mini in my links panel and the only thing I hate is having to click on it , open java and then launch opera manually.
Another question, when you're exit opera mini, does it exit java also?
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Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.
it opens opera up by itself now when i clic it the icon also changed to a fancy opera one and im gettin the s0 error in java
1Airborne1 said:
it opens opera up by itself now when i clic it the icon also changed to a fancy opera one and im gettin the s0 error in java
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Check last post it's because Opera Mini was not your first Java app installed
stylez said:
Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.
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sweeet thanks bro!!!
stylez said:
Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.
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Worked perfect for me, stylez u never fail to impress me thanx alot love the Mini shortcut Thanx again Stylez...
HTCP4000PPC said:
Worked perfect for me, stylez u never fail to impress me thanx alot love the Mini shortcut Thanx again Stylez...
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That's cool
Thanks to Ricky too as this is from RoseRom.
Yes ricky thank you too.. man i cant believe how cool my S621 is now i swear its a different 6.1 Kavana S621 now Dunka... my good programmers
I got the error for the s0, and I was wondering why since opera mini is the one and only thing I have in java, and you said if it was the first that you shouldn't get the error, and then I remember, that I had a previous unsigned version of opera mini, and I had replaced it with a signed version, so I just switched to the s1 shortcut , edited my panel, and now it works perfect. Thanks again Stylez..
roloracer said:
I got the error for the s0, and I was wondering why since opera mini is the one and only thing I have in java, and you said if it was the first that you shouldn't get the error, and then I remember, that I had a previous unsigned version of opera mini, and I had replaced it with a signed version, so I just switched to the s1 shortcut , edited my panel, and now it works perfect. Thanks again Stylez..
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Yeah so since you removed and installed another it wasn't the first install
Glad you sorted it
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Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.
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Thanks stylez, works great!
i got it thanks a million stilez
Hey guys im using jbed on my Dash and when i install and run unsigned java apps it always ask me to allow connect internet , read/write user data etc..
so is there any way to remove those security mess ?
btw, how to change icon of a cab file ? becoz some cab apps have so ugly icon and i want to change to my own icon
thx in adv
Yo GaBeo, what java apps are you talking about?
Opera Mini
Using version 4.2 (I think) of Opera Mini on my excalibur, i always get those messages.
uninstall opera 4.2 you already have on your phone
Go to mini.opera.com using internet explorer, then click the link "if the version fails to install..."
after that click "download opera mini (multiple certificates)"
it will install and ask about permissions, answer "always allow" for everything.
You can also start the java app and at opera click actions/security and even allow more permisions such as uploading and downloading from opera.
as for changing icons i have no clue, but it may be possible.
its Gmail Mobile from Google , i cant find an signed version for that app
im not sure about gmail, i never used it.
opera mini 4.2
hey pokejoke did u manage what u wanted? and is your opera able to download now and save pages for offline viewing? please let me know any methods u used if you managed. thanks
The Opera Mini Version for Nokia E61 works just fine and does not prompt for permissions. I use it together with the Jbed 3D mod here