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Shadowmite 1.1 - Cingular/ATT Trinity Rom

Shadowmite's Cingular AT&T Trinity Rom:
Code:
Shadowmite 1.1 Trinity Rom:
Based on the offical release rom and using kernel 1437
Using 4MB Pagepool
Removed:
-Adobe Reader
-Midlet Manager
-IA_Zip
-Streaming Player
-Windows Live
-all the pics/vids/rings other then 2 standards
Changed:
New theme
Full screen commmanger
Date/Time pulled from network on start
Keyboard overlay is the nice one from PDAVIET
Fileexplorer is swapped for one with icon abilities
Added:
+Cingular customizations
+HTCustom 1.7
+SoftKey Control Panel
+HTC Home Plugin
+X-Button
+Batterystatus today plugin
Regedits:
Set for high quality A2DP default (jointstereo, sample rate 48000 and no bitpool)
Set to show network time tab in phone and enable it
Set to enable disconnect and data timer default
Set to hide SIM contacts default
Set to disable security by default
The one bug found so far in this release can be fixed with the X-Button Fix.cab attached below.
http://rapidshare.com/files/44078979/Shadowmite_1.1.rar.html

Thanks!
I always feel like such an outsider way out here in AT&T land! Thanks for the special attention. Downloading now!

Here's where I get to show my stupidity!
All the other ROM I have flashed have come with a utility to run the process. I tried replacing a previous rar file with this one and running the utility I had, but it changed nothing. I have read all the guides, the step by steps, etc, but the info seems to be for full packetsm not how to insert a new rar. I am dense. I am uneducated, I am sorry!

Thanks Shodowmite. It's good to have someone taking care of us ATT dudes.

What is the difference with other ROM ?
Is there something specific for AT&T ?
Sorry if the question is stupid, but I don't know AT&T particularities... ;-)

auramae said:
All the other ROM I have flashed have come with a utility to run the process. I tried replacing a previous rar file with this one and running the utility I had, but it changed nothing. I have read all the guides, the step by steps, etc, but the info seems to be for full packetsm not how to insert a new rar. I am dense. I am uneducated, I am sorry!
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ok, have you flashed hard-spl on your phone before? If not, search for it and flash it! Next, you need winrar or some other file extraction program to extract the rar file (a compressed folder) to get the files out. Then you'll find the installer files inside, you run the exe... Hope this helps.
What is the difference with other ROM ?
Is there something specific for AT&T ?
Sorry if the question is stupid, but I don't know AT&T particularities... ;-)
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Mainly the big thing is this includes by default the sms/mms and data/proxy settings for cingular/att's network. You can use this rom with another carrier, but you'll need to delete those settings or install you own over top of them.

It's the little things
Thanks for the patience with my idiocy. I got WinRar and am flashing now.

auramae said:
Thanks for the patience with my idiocy. I got WinRar and am flashing now.
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We all have to learn at some point, I was no better when I started long ago... Don't worry about it and just learn at your own pace... Hope you like the rom!

I've updated to Shadowmite 1.1, while this is still a "beta" if you will, it's perfectly stable and appears good. Use this one if you want the HTC Home Plugin available... I've also removed windows live and streaming media in this version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/43857196/Shadowmite_1.1_beta_0.rar.html

Thanks. Good job. Downloading.

Ive had it running for a few days now and have noticed marked improvement on battery life. My only challenge has been running out of program memory during IE sessions. I run MemMaid and clean up, then I can go again, but I'm wondering if I have something set wrong.

Hmm, not sure, but I will be releasing another version maybe tomorrow with a increased available program memory using a 4mb pagepool instead of the stock 6mb.

Slightly off topic but is there a way / application to load apps & information in one go after flashing a new rom or is installing all the cabs one by one the only way.
Thanks in advance
S

Well, dunno if it helps much, but my HTCustom app, which is in my roms has a CABS button which allows you to choose a folder and it starts all cabs in it to be installed for you... but it needs human interaction.
In other news, the rom is ready and uploading now...

Version 1.1 is posted, now with 4mb pagepool, should increase your program memory a little and make it perform a little more quickly. I think this is about perfect now, let me know!

Nice ROM, but...
Shadowmite said:
Version 1.1 is posted, now with 4mb pagepool, should increase your program memory a little and make it perform a little more quickly. I think this is about perfect now, let me know!
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Hi, A very nice looking ROM - for which... thanks!
BUT... I keep getting... "An unhandled error has occured in the shell. Attempting to restart the shell [ok]". Soon as I hit the OK, phone reboots.
Now, to help u diagnose... I have installed NOTHING on top of your ROM. Only change I made from stock is I removed your Cingular settings .cab and installed the standard HTC ones for my UK Vodaphone network. (Actually, I was getting this error BEFORE I even removed the Cingular .cab)
Only other thing I can say is, I also unchecked the BatteryStatus plugin from the Today items (as I don't like it or need it... or do I, with this ROM? Maybe I will re-enable it a while...)
That's all. I'll try and stick with this ROM as it's the kind of thing I've been working on for myself... nice, clean and tight... but I've had no time recently to develop ROMs so it's easier for me to run with your work and let you do the head scratching!! Still, a nice effort so far - thanks again!
Moz.

Weird, I've never seen that error. I hate to say it, but could you start with the rom freshly flashed and tell me anything I can do to cause this to occur? Or is it random? I do run the battery status plugin on mine (very useful info, especially the current draw) but I've just removed it to see if I can get the error.
Let me know if you have any procedure I can try to get this error.
Also, you removed the cing.cab and then installed yours and ran it? That should be fine as the only cingular branding is that cab being ran after the welcome.

Fixed it... I think!
Ok, so it seems to be your 1.51 version of the HTC X-Button task manager. I always set the "End progs by tapping X" (not the default tap-and-hold option..) The previously mentioned error only ever happens when I'm tapping X to close down something or other... So, I installed my own .cab of this app (v1.5 build 29196) and all is now fine!
I'll probably do a fresh flash of your Rom tomorrow (its 2am now here) just to be sure, but I think I'm right in saying that your implementation of the x-button app in rom does not give the x-button icon in /start/settings/system... (i now have this by virtue of my reinstalling the app...) I think this icon *is* needed because if you choose to turn off the x-button "shortcut" thingy in the today screen there would otherwise be no way to get back to the x-button option settings.
Hope this helps...
Moz.

a-ha, I got the error now myself, but only if set to close app on clicking the X and furthermore then closing a system app that is running from shell32.exe. For some reason my entries of immune apps aren't being taken as immune. I'll look into this. Good catch!
The program however is in settings, system and is listed as task manager...

Ok, here is the fix, just install this cab (reg entries only) and it'll be working after the next soft reset... I'll figure out why this didn't work from the main hive before the next release.

Opera Mini

can anyone point the way to a download for opera mini? thanks for the help

http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/
are you that lazy? google my friend

My friend, thats not opera mini, thats normal opera which i already have. Thanks anyway for your help

goto www.operamini.com on your PPC

molesaied88 said:
My friend, thats not opera mini, thats normal opera which i already have. Thanks anyway for your help
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seriously, you couldn't go to opera.com and figure it out your self?
I mean SERIOUSLY?

seriously, have you tried it? when you go to opera.com it says go to a site from you phone, when i do that it downloads a .jad file, which ive never heard of before, if you have please enlighten me

molesaied88 said:
seriously, have you tried it? when you go to opera.com it says go to a site from you phone, when i do that it downloads a .jad file, which ive never heard of before, if you have please enlighten me
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You need to have java installed (Jbed or Esmertec) then the jad file will open, and install opera mini. Do that, then goto www.operamini.com in pocket IE.

thank you for the help

quick question, is Jbed free software, or do i pay for it? the reason i ask is because on my brothers wing, i rom that he download cam pre installed with opera mini, and im having a bit of trouble finding a link to download, i get things like single user liscence and what not, which i may be wrong but i dont belieave is right

Here you go. Install this, and then double click on the .jad file. It will install. Then to run opera, just click on the java icon in programs and choose "opera"
This worked for me!
http://rapidshare.com/files/91673510/Schaps_JbedJava_MIDP_0_0_20070822_1_1_WWE.CAB.html

Give the guy a break, I was confused when I went on the Opera site as well...

tora201 said:
Here you go. Install this, and then double click on the .jad file. It will install. Then to run opera, just click on the java icon in programs and choose "opera"
This worked for me!
http://rapidshare.com/files/91673510/Schaps_JbedJava_MIDP_0_0_20070822_1_1_WWE.CAB.html
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I run it with esmertec jbed and have tweaked it to open with one click without the confirmation messages. Operamini rox....but the new NetFront is even more powerful!

FYI. Checkout this excellent thread regarding Opera Mini. If you use Mort Script, you can make Opera Mini function like the default browser, i.e. open links from emails, etc. I posed my own script (based on Menneisyys's - Thanks!), which works great on my Hermes running WM6.0 and jmm.exe (TAO).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347689&page=6

I've never heard of NetFront. Is it freeware?

http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.10222-advanced-int.jad
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.10222-advanced-int.jar
Mini Opera 4.0.10222 English International version.
Download both files to your PC, transfer to your Pocket PC, place in one folder, then tap on the JAD file. That's it.
Here you can download various languages.
doctorchan said:
I run it with esmertec jbed and have tweaked it to open with one click without the confirmation messages. Operamini rox....but the new NetFront is even more powerful!
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I also have Esmertec Jbed. Could you please tell us how you manage to tweak it? It really bugs when it asks for connectivity permission.
Thanks in advance.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344622

Kavana WM6.1, Esmertec JBed, and Opera Mini: A Complete Solution

Hello everybody,
I've figured a few things out regarding JBed and Opera Mini on Kavana's latest WM6.1 ROM, and I thought I'd share them with you.
Introduction
First off, a quick introduction: Opera Mini 4, a Java MIDlet web browser, is arguably the best browser available for Windows Mobile. It routes traffic through Opera servers, so it doesn't take as much data (or time) to browse the Web, and it has small-screen rendering like iPhone's. Slashdot, for example, loads in seconds under OM, as opposed to half an hour in Pocket IE. Esmertec JBed respects the system's network settings, so it works with the T-Zones $5.99 internet trick.
JBed isn't perfect, though. It has a few glaring issues: network access permissions, inability to use a MIDlet as a systemwide default browser, and ugly fonts. I haven't figured out the last one yet, but the first two are solvable, and here's how.
Network Access Permissions
Most tutorials for fixing this problem refer to the file \Windows\AppDB\Selector.utf; editing this file and replacing the text
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
with
Code:
domain=tckmax , \
fixes the problem under Cloudyfa's JBed. The version of JBed in Kavana's WM6.1 stores its data in \Application Data\JavaDB, and the selector.utf trick doesn't work. The culprit is a missing file named policy.utf, which defines tckmax. I've attached a copy of this file; just move it to your \Application Data\JavaDB directory and the selector.utf trick will work as usual.
Systemwide Default Browser
First off, you can make it easier to access Opera Mini by changing the short_IE.lnk file to open OM instead of PIE. I've attached a version of that file for your convenience; copy it to your \Windows directory and the IE (or T-Zones) button will open a usable browser for a change. This only works if OM is the first MIDlet you've installed; if you have installed other MIDlets you'll have to edit the shortcut (Notepad works nicely) to reflect the change. If OM is your second MIDlet, change s0_ to s1_; third, s2_; and so on.
Also, various MortScript scripts have been floating around that attempt to automate the process of copying a clicked link to the system clipboard, opening OM, and pasting the link into the address bar. I haven't found one that works, but a much better solution is available. The linked post contains a CAB file (which I've reposted here for convenience) that installs an actual application that works well under WM6.1. This one is hardcoded with the assumption that Opera Mini is the first MIDlet that you've installed.
One Other Thing
I recommend backing up your \Application Data\JavaDB directory once you get everything working; you can simply copy it back from your backup after a cold boot to get everything working again. I don't know how to make a CAB file myself, but if someone is up to the challenge, I'd suggest making a single file that installs Opera Mini and the Opera Mini Default Browser application, and optionally replaces the PIE button with OM. Or maybe Kavana can add this to his next ROM
Hope you find this useful!
EDIT: The application I've attached only works if Opera Mini is the first application ever installed under JBed. If you uninstall it and reinstall it, it will get a new suite number. You can look at your selector.utf file and figure out your suite number (e.g., s1_), but I would recommend clearing out your \Application Data\JavaDB folder to reset your suite numbers. Also, it may be a bad idea to edit your selector.utf file in Notepad; a hex editor should avoid corruption issues.
~truggl

awesome! thanks!

very useful, thanks!

Great Job!!

How do you tell what the s number is for the OM midlet?
When I press the short key cut key I get a "Could not find suite s0_" error message. When I dismiss the message I get the jbed midlet manager window which list Opera Mini and it's the only applet listed. I click on that and Opera Mini opens up.

Perfect, the policy.utf file did the trick. I'm not so sure that I want to replace the iexplore shortcut to OM because there are still some limits to the OM applet over PIE. OM can't launch youtube for example.
Thank you ... thank you - Tim

truggl said:
Hello everybody,
I've figured a few things out regarding JBed and Opera Mini on Kavana's latest WM6.1 ROM, and I thought I'd share them with you.
Introduction
First off, a quick introduction: Opera Mini 4, a Java MIDlet web browser, is arguably the best browser available for Windows Mobile. It routes traffic through Opera servers, so it doesn't take as much data (or time) to browse the Web, and it has small-screen rendering like iPhone's. Slashdot, for example, loads in seconds under OM, as opposed to half an hour in Pocket IE. Esmertec JBed respects the system's network settings, so it works with the T-Zones $5.99 internet trick.
JBed isn't perfect, though. It has a few glaring issues: network access permissions, inability to use a MIDlet as a systemwide default browser, and ugly fonts. I haven't figured out the last one yet, but the first two are solvable, and here's how.
Network Access Permissions
Most tutorials for fixing this problem refer to the file \Windows\AppDB\Selector.utf; editing this file and replacing the text
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
with
Code:
domain=tckmax , \
fixes the problem under Cloudyfa's JBed. The version of JBed in Kavana's WM6.1 stores its data in \Application Data\JavaDB, and the selector.utf trick doesn't work. The culprit is a missing file named policy.utf, which defines tckmax. I've attached a copy of this file; just move it to your \Application Data\JavaDB directory and the selector.utf trick will work as usual.
Systemwide Default Browser
First off, you can make it easier to access Opera Mini by changing the short_IE.lnk file to open OM instead of PIE. I've attached a version of that file for your convenience; copy it to your \Windows directory and the IE (or T-Zones) button will open a usable browser for a change. This only works if OM is the first MIDlet you've installed; if you have installed other MIDlets you'll have to edit the shortcut (Notepad works nicely) to reflect the change. If OM is your second MIDlet, change s0_ to s1_; third, s2_; and so on.
Also, various MortScript scripts have been floating around that attempt to automate the process of copying a clicked link to the system clipboard, opening OM, and pasting the link into the address bar. I haven't found one that works, but a much better solution is available. The linked post contains a CAB file (which I've reposted here for convenience) that installs an actual application that works well under WM6.1. This one is hardcoded with the assumption that Opera Mini is the first MIDlet that you've installed.
One Other Thing
I recommend backing up your \Application Data\JavaDB directory once you get everything working; you can simply copy it back from your backup after a cold boot to get everything working again. I don't know how to make a CAB file myself, but if someone is up to the challenge, I'd suggest making a single file that installs Opera Mini and the Opera Mini Default Browser application, and optionally replaces the PIE button with OM. Or maybe Kavana can add this to his next ROM
Hope you find this useful!
~truggl
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Kinda bummed.... I cant seem to get this to work. Everytime I edit selector.utf with the new code, my opera midlet dissappears. I have policy.utf in the directory so I am at a loss. ???

Works great on my system - many thanks for this!

Poser said:
Kinda bummed.... I cant seem to get this to work. Everytime I edit selector.utf with the new code, my opera midlet dissappears. I have policy.utf in the directory so I am at a loss. ???
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I had the same problem. I was using notepad to edit selector.utf which I guess is bad. Try using a hex editor or run this script. http://treo.discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/showthread.php?t=152078

socal1 said:
How do you tell what the s number is for the OM midlet?
When I press the short key cut key I get a "Could not find suite s0_" error message. When I dismiss the message I get the jbed midlet manager window which list Opera Mini and it's the only applet listed. I click on that and Opera Mini opens up.
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I think i figured this issue out. Edit the Opera Mini.lnk file from run s0_ to run s4_

pudgedaddy said:
I think i figured this issue out. Edit the Opera Mini.lnk file from run s0_ to run s4_
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Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.

socal1 said:
I had the same problem. I was using notepad to edit selector.utf which I guess is bad. Try using a hex editor or run this script. http://treo.discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/showthread.php?t=152078
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Worked a charm , thanks much mate

removed: dbl post

DaMilky said:
Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.
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Opera is the only java app that I have installed and I still get the error, however, I have installed and uninstalled a few times... so I think there may be .db remnants that force it further down the "install list" e.g. s2_
edit: just had to clean up \\application data\javaDB, works fine

Hi all,
Glad I was able to help. I added a bit of information to my original post; I recommend starting with a blank slate, so to speak, because OperaDefault.cab is programmed with that assumption. When in doubt about your suite number, and if you don't care about OperaDefault, then you can look in (or post) your selector.utf file and get it from there.
~truggl

Esmertec jbed
Can someone point me to forum where i can get esmertec jbed?
I'm looking for a couple of hours already.
Please help....

Having a very strange problem with Opera Mini 4. I'm using Ricky's Rom V5 with my Dash and Opera will not display fonts correctly. They all seem to have horizontal lines going through them and appear to be slightly stretched (that could be my imagination though). I checked the Jbed version and it appears to be the latest one (I never changed it) and I'm not sure where to go from here. Opera boots and runs fast but it's not legible at all. Any suggestions as to what I can try? I searched XDA but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks,

kasim1 said:
Can someone point me to forum where i can get esmertec jbed?
I'm looking for a couple of hours already.
Please help....
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NM, I found Esmertec.

ItsDon said:
Having a very strange problem with Opera Mini 4. I'm using Ricky's Rom V5 with my Dash and Opera will not display fonts correctly. They all seem to have horizontal lines going through them and appear to be slightly stretched (that could be my imagination though). I checked the Jbed version and it appears to be the latest one (I never changed it) and I'm not sure where to go from here. Opera boots and runs fast but it's not legible at all. Any suggestions as to what I can try? I searched XDA but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks,
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I am having this same problem. Does anyone know how to change the font in Opera Mini?

DaMilky said:
Yes, it will depend on how many java programs you installed before so that you can get an accurate count.
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NOT TRUE.
I tried to use from s0_ to s4_, nothing worked....
Untill i opened my selector.utf(windows\appdb) and seen that gMail is "root=s-1_", so i've change my shortcut to point to "s-1_", this did the trick.
Thanx.

Opera Mini

any way to get this to show up in the start menu rather than opening it up in the java progran?

Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.

hmmm i got the error but i dont think im doin it right im doin it all on my phone at the moment. i downloaded ur zip extracted and th extraction only had the ink in it? but in zip mobile ink and dll was there...

stylez said:
Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.
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when you add this to your phone, when you click on it, does it show the java opening up and you have to then launch opera mini from within the java like usual? or when you click on the shortcut, does it open java and launches opera mini by itself?

1Airborne1 said:
hmmm i got the error but i dont think im doin it right im doin it all on my phone at the moment. i downloaded ur zip extracted and th extraction only had the ink in it? but in zip mobile ink and dll was there...
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Use Resco File Explorer to open the make sure Menu\Options\Browser all is unticked.
Over the .zip click Action\Archive\Extract To
Now follow directions in first post

i get the error message then i have to open on my own in java.. great browser just started using an hour ago

roloracer said:
when you add this to your phone, when you click on it, does it show the java opening up and you have to then launch opera mini from within the java like usual? or when you click on the shortcut, does it open java and launches opera mini by itself?
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It opens up Java and runs Opera Mini all by itself

1Airborne1 said:
i get the error message then i have to open on my own in java.. great browser just started using an hour ago
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What error message?
The more info you provide the more i can help.

stylez said:
It opens up Java and runs Opera Mini all by itself
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Cool, I've been using opera mini for a while now and I think you gave me the shortcut file before, don't remember , I have opera mini in my links panel and the only thing I hate is having to click on it , open java and then launch opera manually.
Another question, when you're exit opera mini, does it exit java also?

roloracer said:
Cool, I've been using opera mini for a while now and I think you gave me the shortcut file before, don't remember , I have opera mini in my links panel and the only thing I hate is having to click on it , open java and then launch opera manually.
Another question, when you're exit opera mini, does it exit java also?
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Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.

it opens opera up by itself now when i clic it the icon also changed to a fancy opera one and im gettin the s0 error in java

1Airborne1 said:
it opens opera up by itself now when i clic it the icon also changed to a fancy opera one and im gettin the s0 error in java
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Check last post it's because Opera Mini was not your first Java app installed

stylez said:
Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.
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sweeet thanks bro!!!

stylez said:
Yes here ya go attached place the .dll in Windows and the .lnk in Windows\Start Menu soft-reset.
If Opera Mini is the first installed Java app then all will be fine if you get an s0 error let me know and will ammend shortcut.
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Worked perfect for me, stylez u never fail to impress me thanx alot love the Mini shortcut Thanx again Stylez...

HTCP4000PPC said:
Worked perfect for me, stylez u never fail to impress me thanx alot love the Mini shortcut Thanx again Stylez...
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That's cool
Thanks to Ricky too as this is from RoseRom.

Yes ricky thank you too.. man i cant believe how cool my S621 is now i swear its a different 6.1 Kavana S621 now Dunka... my good programmers

I got the error for the s0, and I was wondering why since opera mini is the one and only thing I have in java, and you said if it was the first that you shouldn't get the error, and then I remember, that I had a previous unsigned version of opera mini, and I had replaced it with a signed version, so I just switched to the s1 shortcut , edited my panel, and now it works perfect. Thanks again Stylez..

roloracer said:
I got the error for the s0, and I was wondering why since opera mini is the one and only thing I have in java, and you said if it was the first that you shouldn't get the error, and then I remember, that I had a previous unsigned version of opera mini, and I had replaced it with a signed version, so I just switched to the s1 shortcut , edited my panel, and now it works perfect. Thanks again Stylez..
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Yeah so since you removed and installed another it wasn't the first install
Glad you sorted it

stylez said:
Yep Java isn't realy open as you will see when running any app, java closes when app launched
To all: I have ammended so as there is s0 - s4 in the attachment if Opera Mini was the first install of a Java app then it will be that if not then try the others.
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Thanks stylez, works great!

i got it thanks a million stilez

Sense 2.5 Task Manager

Hi there
Am I getting confused or missing something? The Task Manager that I could access under Manila 2.1 via the 'X' or Down Arrow in the top right hand corner of the task bar when I was running multiple apps does not seem to be there under Manila 2.5...and I cannot understand why. I do occasionally get an 'X' or 'OK' but whereas as before I would be able to tap the 'X' and get the drop down this is not happening since upgrading to Manila 2.5
Am running WinMo 6.5.
Can someone advise as to what I am missing?
Regards
Balders

it has been removed from manila in v2.5. try installing the duttys task manager. it will add it. you will need a soft reset after installing

rouzb3h said:
it has been removed from manila in v2.5. try installing the duttys task manager. it will add it. you will need a soft reset after installing
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Hi rouzb3h
Thanks for the reply. That is a same as I quite liked the one in Manila 2.5...still you can't have everything.
I will give this a try and see what I think of it. I presume that you use it? If so then did you compare with others? And if so which others might be of interest?
Now off to see if I can find some screenshots.
Many thanks once again.
Regards
Balders

Baldrick1 said:
Hi rouzb3h
Thanks for the reply. That is a same as I quite liked the one in Manila 2.5...still you can't have everything.
I will give this a try and see what I think of it. I presume that you use it? If so then did you compare with others? And if so which others might be of interest?
Now off to see if I can find some screenshots.
Many thanks once again.
Regards
Balders
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yes Im using it now. the function is exactly the same as the task manager in previous manilas. it even has the same look. maybe it was extracted from previous builds? I dont know ... I didnt find any alternatives. but this one works very well

they have setting
try go to start>setting>system>task manager
it can set what "X" will do

rouzb3h said:
yes Im using it now. the function is exactly the same as the task manager in previous manilas. it even has the same look. maybe it was extracted from previous builds? I dont know ... I didnt find any alternatives. but this one works very well
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I am about to install and try it out (as it is now the Easter holidays...and I have the time). I much liked the Task Manager included with Sense 2.1 so what you have stated sounds promising.
Cheers
Balders