Does anyone know the name of the three processes that report bandwidth usage to t-mobile. . .
And the wifi tethering manager app?
someone showed me an easy method for defeating all of these in person, but I don't remember the app/process names.
FOR CLARIFICATION THIS NOT AN APN TRICK OR WORKAROUND
1. I am aware of the APN tricks, but there is a simple software workaround that I have seen.
2. There is a lack of info on this procedure and the willingness of those in the know to share.
I have seen a demonstration and have personally inspected the device I saw it executed on with no APN change and zero data usage displayed and or detected for the month.
I have found some posts where people spoke of the process in cryptic codes, but that's it. I know it involves killing three processes which seem like they normally belong on the phone to allow normal operation . . .
You can't do anything about the throttling. I think you're mistaking it for tethering
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shnn2011 said:
Does anyone know the name of the three processes that report bandwidth usage to t-mobile. . .
And the wifi tethering manager app?
someone showed me an easy method for defeating all of these in person, but I don't remember the app/process names.
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Yeah you can't just uninstall an app and get rid of the the reporting. All of your data that they measure goes through them, so they measure it on their end. You can change the APN to try and not have it count, but I think they closed down most of them.
I am aware of all of the apn tricks, but there is a simple software workaround that I have seen.
The problem is lack of info on this procedure and the willingness of those in the know to share.
I have seen a demonstration and have personally inspected the device I saw it executed on with no apn change and zero data usage displayed and detected for the month every month.
I have found some posts where people spoke of the process in cryptic codes, but that's it.
It may also be worth mentioning that the device I witnessed was an SGH-T989 running a port of at&t skyrocket ICS with no bloatware.
All apns were the default, it was a very simple software mod.
It is possible. Perhaps something in the data packets. A minor change. A simple omission of certain bits, scrambling the sequence. . . something, but all I remember is it worked.
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Regardless of what makes it work, I remember that it involved three separate processes.
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shnn2011 said:
The problem is lack of info on this procedure and the willingness of those in the know to share..
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And they have a good reason not to. Not sure how you guys feel about this but I'm with them if they don't want to share because as soon as the word is out, there are some that abuse the exploit and its the reason why its patched at a faster pace. Might sound greedy and selfish but a lot of people are just leeches (like myself) who often times don't give anything in return, not even a simple thanks
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Yes, makes sense, but maybe someone knows something and points me in the right direction. The information is there, somewhere.
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Hey folks. My Evo got stolen today, and I have a question. I've already reported it stolen to Sprint, started the Asurion claim, and changed the passwords to all the services my phone had stored passwords for. Unfortunately, there's a fair bit of info on that phone that it would do best not to spread. I have phone numbers for the vast majority of my squadron, along with some passwords for a few secure government systems. Granted, the passwords are in one of the password vault apps behind a different master password and I'll be changing them tomorrow morning anyways, but is there a way I can have google remotely delete that app and de-sync my contacts if my phone ever connects to a wifi network (or gets used on MetroPOS)? Sprint says all they can really do is blacklist the ESN, which they've done.
I don't believe so, unless you had like lookout mobile, where you pay for the premium service that allows it to do that.
There's a sprint app in the market just for future reference its called sprint total protection app(free). It saves your numbers and allows you to remotely lock your phone. It also sends gps coordinates every 2 hours of your phones location so you can find those pesky thieves and give them a piece of your mind. You get a pin code to login the website to view the gps locations and it works like a charm.
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dirkyd3rk said:
There's a sprint app in the market just for future reference its called sprint total protection app(free). It saves your numbers and allows you to remotely lock your phone. It also sends gps coordinates every 2 hours of your phones location so you can find those pesky thieves and give them a piece of your mind. You get a pin code to login the website to view the gps locations and it works like a charm.
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That actually works? I have it, but never set it up. May look into it now.
but OP, go for that -pushes you to it-
Thanks for the snappy replies, I'll definitely be using one of those security apps next time. Oh well. At least now the thieving bastard can never use the phone to its full potential. At this point aren't the second rate providers like Metro and cricket the only ones that will activate a phone with a dirty ESN?
teh roxxorz said:
That actually works? I have it, but never set it up. May look into it now.
but OP, go for that -pushes you to it-
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Yes it actually works, oddly enough it doesn't drain battery since it only uses gps to send location then turns back off. I've been using it. Theres a weird issue with cm7 to where the app ask you to turn on gps even though it's on but it works!
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jdelforge5684 said:
Thanks for the snappy replies, I'll definitely be using one of those security apps next time. Oh well. At least now the thieving bastard can never use the phone to its full potential. At this point aren't the second rate providers like Metro and cricket the only ones that will activate a phone with a dirty ESN?
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I believe so, but they'd be risky for flashing it. Unless they tried to clone a good esn...but most people aren't skilled enough or would think of it.
dirkyd3rk said:
There's a sprint app in the market just for future reference its called sprint total protection app(free). It saves your numbers and allows you to remotely lock your phone. It also sends gps coordinates every 2 hours of your phones location so you can find those pesky thieves and give them a piece of your mind. You get a pin code to login the website to view the gps locations and it works like a charm.
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Should note that this app will not work with phones running non-sprint ROMs.
WiFi Hotspot Hack
Steps:
1) Dial ##778#, SEND.
2) EPST dialog comes up. Select 'Edit Mode'. Enter SPC (000000), hit OK.
3) Scroll to down to 'Security', select it. Change 'S.IP DUN User name just take out dun. Of the email address.
4) Hit back arrow to go back and go/select 'M.IP Default Profile' just take out dun. Of the email address.
5) Hit menu button, and 'Commit Modifications', phone will save changes and reboot.
If Your Rooted And No Longer Needing Hack.
(Cygenmod Doesnt Work With This Your Must Do This Before)
Steps:
1) Dial ##778#, SEND.
2) EPST dialog comes up. Select 'Edit Mode'. Enter SPC (000000), hit OK.
3) Scroll to down to 'Security', select it. Change 'S.IP DUN put dun. back in front of vzw.
4) Hit back arrow to go back and go/select 'M.IP Default Profile' change only the DUN NAI back to .
5) Hit menu button, and 'Commit Modifications', phone will save changes and reboot.
If rooted use WiFi Tether http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta2.apk&can=2&q= supports infrastructure and faster then hotspot plus way more stable in my opinion.
Instructions For Flawless WiFi Tether
WiFi Tether Very Stable And Way Faster Use These Settings.
1st. Download Wifi Tether
2. Go into setting check HTC device
3. Check MSS Clamping
4. Hide SSID you will get slowed down if people try to connect to you. Write SSID Down.
5. Access Control Disabled
6. Restart phone then pull up Wifi Tether and its good to go.
If you like any of these methods there's a Thank You button. Also Donations Are Appreciated Link Below.
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it's ##778#, dont forget the extra # at the end.
Can someone report back if this gets them caught by Verizon?
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knipp21 said:
Can someone report back if this gets them caught by Verizon?
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Since it's their app, I would assume it's within the realm of possibility. This is the sole reason I don't use it.
how does verizon charge you ? through how much data it uses ?
explanation
You will not get caught I have used this hack since the phone came out this changes the log in details to bypass Verizon login you will not be charged for nothing you have a unlimited data package for all Droid devices this hack tricks the phone to make it look like its coming through the phone data plan not hotspot app.
This is rather exciting to me. The only reason besides bloat removal I wanted root is to support tethering for free.
Thank you!
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You will not get caught I have used this hack since the phone came out this changes the log in details to bypass Verizon login you will not be charged for nothing you have a unlimited data package for all Droid devices this hack tricks the phone to make it look like its coming through the phone data plan not hotspot app.
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The assumption of "will not get caught" based on "have not gotten caught" is pretty flawed. It's very possible that you have, in fact, been caught, and Verizon is investigating how to handle the masses of people abusing this service.
If you want to take the chance, so be it. I choose not to
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The assumption of "will not get caught" based on "have not gotten caught" is pretty flawed. It's very possible that you have, in fact, been caught, and Verizon is investigating how to handle the masses of people abusing this service.
If you want to take the chance, so be it. I choose not to
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Agreed, but ill still set it up for emergency situations
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The assumption of not bein caught is true why do you think you change security to it bypassed Verizon log in Verizon cannot tell it shows as your using dara from internet part of phone .I have been rooting and hacking different phones for over 5 yrs. I'm positive I know what I'm doin I have hacked Sprint WiFi to check out sdx forum I have a lot of credibility all my names are REDSCARFACE .
REDSCARFACE1 said:
The assumption of not bein caught is true why do you think you change security to it bypassed Verizon log in Verizon cannot tell it shows as your using dara from internet part of phone .I have been rooting and hacking different phones for over 5 yrs. I'm positive I know what I'm doin I have hacked Sprint WiFi to check out sdx forum I have a lot of credibility all my names are REDSCARFACE .
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You are removing the "sip." from part of the identification. You are exploiting a security flaw in Verizon's authentication (a very stupid one, in fact). You are still publishing information from your phone to authenticate to use the feature that will identify you. Additionally, as I said, this is Verizon's app... it, too, can publish information about your device and what you do with it. Verizon loves analytics, you don't think they're taking info about your usage?
Let's not fight guys. I love healthy debates but the Eris forum was always held to a higher standard...let's not be like other forums and flame all the time...both of you have great arguments and I'm sure of Verizon does see this..they might not even care cause so few ppl do it.
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Of coarse they check your usage but they cannot pin point were its coming from the hotspot app shows up as your using data from the phone not from hot spot if.it showed hotspot you would he charged and I havent seen it on my bill. Also I know in fact it will never show but I guess everyone's entitled to there opinion so I'm done talking about it.
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Let's not fight guys. I love healthy debates but the Eris forum was always held to a higher standard...let's not be like other forums and flame all the time...both of you have great arguments and I'm sure of Verizon does see this..they might not even care cause so few ppl do it.
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Having a bit of insight into Verizon's inner workings, I would rather not take the risk. I will wait for unlock, perm root, cyanogenmod, and the wifi tether app that Verizon doesn't have control over and can't track.
nimdae said:
Having a bit of insight into Verizon's inner workings, I would rather not take the risk. I will wait for unlock, perm root, cyanogenmod, and the wifi tether app that Verizon doesn't have control over and can't track.
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I did actually read something about the WiFi tether app getting stopped..ill hunt for the link
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Verizon blocks it in the market (verified), but can't stop it from being installed and used. I had it installed on my I2 but I haven't been able to get it working with the temp root (of course a lot of things break with the temp root).
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Verizon blocks it in the market (verified), but can't stop it from being installed and used. I had it installed on my I2 but I haven't been able to get it working with the temp root (of course a lot of things break with the temp root).
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Yea I like the app..but to my knowledge it can't do infrastructure mode.
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WiFi tether in the same category as wireless tether does support infrastructure WiFi tether does.infrastructure all you have to do is get root Bs kernel that support .and configure the.app device profile settings to epic and it will pull up hotspot and use that. Mode as infrastructure that's why this hack is better you don't have to root is you already get free hotspot with this hack. Same thing as using any tether just a bit faster
i have been using this hack since my lg dare days wired tether. Been using at least 5 years.
Quick question maybe a dumb one, I performed these steps listed in OP. Are you using the verizon hotspot app from that point? Do you just ignore the message from verizon and continue to use the app? When I got to that point I just stopped as I don't want additional charges. (Vzw is expensive enough) just curious I may not even use this as perm root will b available soon enough we hope and at that point ill be looking for the wifi teather app that is now no longer availavailablefrom the market. Just wondering for the sake of not being able to locate it via 4shared yet.
This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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Which aops sre you saying aren't in your phone
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Honestly, I'm suspecting malware or something otherwise gone wrong way more than T-Mobile personally being in your phone or something.
Looks like Carrier IQ. Nothing new. The numbers you see listed are likely the ports it is communicating over.
If you ever see it happen again, tap on one of the 'unknown' apps and see what it tells you.
Remove the following apks from /system/app and I bet you will never see that again.
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
/system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
I suggest you take a look at TrevE's CarrierIQ Thread and his Logging Test App
Anyway, I wouldn't worry so much about it to no longer use my data service. They have been doing this all along and at this point most likely have long since got most of the info they wanted from your device. Chances are, their systems detected heavier than usual usage and automatically triggered the system to send its current reports and logs back to Tmobile. Doubt there was an actual person on the other side 'hacking' into your phone!
This type of stuff has been going on for quite a while now. The first step you need to take is removing CarrierIQ from your phone! This should ALWAYS be one of the very FIRST things you do when you flash or update your system! Next is to check out TrevE's offerings and knowledge I linked to above.
And remember, even without CarrierIQ, everything you do over your data connection gets sent straight through Tmobile's systems first. Whether or not they are actually capturing anything, I dont know. But they do have the ability if they so choose, or are requested to by law enforcement.....
Not trying to make you overly paranoid, but just the right amount can be a healthy thing!
Hope that helps clear things up a little for you.
The second data report is 11/20-11/27.... the first is 11/14-11/27.........
Did you download the Avengers movie?
DocHoliday77 said:
Looks like Carrier IQ. Nothing new. The numbers you see listed are likely the ports it is communicating over.
If you ever see it happen again, tap on one of the 'unknown' apps and see what it tells you.
Remove the following apks from /system/app and I bet you will never see that again.
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
/system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
I suggest you take a look at TrevE's CarrierIQ Thread and his Logging Test App
Anyway, I wouldn't worry so much about it to no longer use my data service. They have been doing this all along and at this point most likely have long since got most of the info they wanted from your device. Chances are, their systems detected heavier than usual usage and automatically triggered the system to send its current reports and logs back to Tmobile. Doubt there was an actual person on the other side 'hacking' into your phone!
This type of stuff has been going on for quite a while now. The first step you need to take is removing CarrierIQ from your phone! This should ALWAYS be one of the very FIRST things you do when you flash or update your system! Next is to check out TrevE's offerings and knowledge I linked to above.
And remember, even without CarrierIQ, everything you do over your data connection gets sent straight through Tmobile's systems first. Whether or not they are actually capturing anything, I dont know. But they do have the ability if they so choose, or are requested to by law enforcement.....
Not trying to make you overly paranoid, but just the right amount can be a healthy thing!
Hope that helps clear things up a little for you.
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Thanks doc for your response. Those files you've mentioned were removed immediately after flashing this rom on its release day JLA.
This is why I got freaked out I know for a fact they are not there.
I will check out trev's threads when I got home.
Thanks again...
Interesting...just for sh!ts and giggles, I wonder what a rep on the higher tiers would say if you called them up
Pennycake said:
Honestly, I'm suspecting malware or something otherwise gone wrong way more than T-Mobile personally being in your phone or something.
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That would be my guess. Get a virus scanner like lookout and check the apps
Edit- I forgot about CIQ, ignore my previous post
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Just flash a rom that is carrier iq free. problem solved
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
That would be my guess. Get a virus scanner like lookout and check the apps
Edit- I forgot about CIQ, ignore my previous post
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Crisisx1 said:
Just flash a rom that is carrier iq free. problem solved
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Maybe I wasn't clear, so let me try again.
ALL CIQ CRAP WAS REMOVED IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASHING ROM ON 11/18/2012!!!!
Clear enough???
Yeah I think it was clear enough, at least I understood that the first time you said it.
I wish I knew how to get PDroid to work on a decent T999 JB ROM...
Run a system dump and send me your system. I can find your issue
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widto08 said:
This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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i noticed you are using lucky patcher which is used to patch apps so they are free.... in a sense stealing... im not judging you but if you download 3rd part apk's like lucky patcher and the "unpatched" apks you might have got a rogue app that steals your info and uses your data in background...just a thought
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ptmr3 said:
Run a system dump and send me your system. I can find your issue
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Never did a system dump, steps please...
kornklown69 said:
i noticed you are using lucky patcher which is used to patch apps so they are free.... in a sense stealing... im not judging you but if you download 3rd part apk's like lucky patcher and the "unpatched" apks you might have got a rogue app that steals your info and uses your data in background...just a thought
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I had a feeling this would come up. I use LP as a means to block the ads in some games like WWF and WF that adfree or adaway don't. If I knew more about linux I wouldn't need an app to do that for me.
widto08 said:
This is going to be a long one so bare with me...
So I was using my phone tonight surfing web sites that I frequent, checking facebook, watching YouTube videos, streaming audio and the like. While watching a flash video stream from a link that was posted to a friends FB page I get a text. Didn't check the text immediately as I would normally do deciding to finish the video stream instead. When the stream was done hitting the back button did nothing as if my phone froze up so I pushed the home button to get back and then check to see who was texting me. Low and behold it's a text from T-Mobile stating "to prevent future Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Tethering) access bla bla bla" crap. The thing is I was NOT tethering when I received this text. I very rarely tether if at all.
For what ever reason I decided to look at my data usage to see how much data I've used so far this month ~5.6GB. I thought to myself seems slightly above average for me at this point in my billing cycle, so I started to scroll down to see what was using my data. To my surprise I see apps in the list that I know for a fact are NOT on my device. So I started to take screen shots as proof (screen shots below).
While in the process of all this activity, from the time of ending my video stream to taking screen shots, my phone is being very sluggish, something its hasn't done since I got the phone??? Anyways as I'm trying to take the last screen shots my phone flickered and put me back to the top of the data usage page, again something my phone has never done.
So I start back down the list again to finish taking screen shots and notice the apps that I know are NOT on my phone are now NOT in the list of app that used data, everything thing else that's normally there was still there??? (screen shots below).
I have since turned off my mobile data until there's a way to keep "them" out of my phone (I don't know if this is the avenue "they" took to enter into my phone but it makes me feel better).
Maybe I'm being paranoid, I know I'm a little freaked out by this, look at the screen shots and determine that for yourself.
The first 9 pics are from before the flickering, the last 6 pics are after the flickering.
My question goes out to our developers here, is there anyway that this invasion/intrusion into our privacy and our device be stopped? If at all?
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I hope the camera did not catch you with your shorts around your ankles. The reverse camera Tmo hid in the code will haunt you.
I'm sorry, wasn't going to reply, but had to show my appreciation for the above reply. Epic my friend.
On another note, have you seen the extreme throttling that goes on after you exhaust your data allotment? (I'm on Monthly 4G, Unl/5GB) Screeny below... the last 2 test or before I hit 5GB, the lowest test in the middle is when throttling began and the top results are after I called and b!tched them out.
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carrier IQ.....
also, getting caught for tethering can happen as long as there is a record of your data usage on their end, and all somebody needs to do is take a peek at it.
also, don't use wireless tether apps.
I would like to know if I can have WiFi and Mobile Data on at the same time. I do not get MMS messages til I get off WiFi and also I can't get on my T-Mobile App to check minutes and data. It Keeps saying "Sorry, no data connection is available" I looked in my settings and said Mobile Data is disconnected.... Is this normal? Thanks In Advance.
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Just FYI my HTC ONE can have both WiFi and data on at same time. a 4G icon pops up when i get MMS and T-Mobile Acount app
127 people viewed this and not even a simple yes or no or even post a link to a thread thats relevant to my problem? Posted this on another forum this morning and got 7 people that don't know if you can but are still trying to help me figure it out. Thought the whole reason for these website were to share ideas, develop things for the community and help other out with their issues. It's not like I didn't search all over the Internet before coming as a last resort instead of thinking of it and just posting it here first. What a pathetic place to get help. Have a nice day doing whatever it is ya'll people do.
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127 people viewed this and not even a simple yes or no or even post a link to a thread thats relevant to my problem? Posted this on another forum this morning and got 7 people that don't know if you can but are still trying to help me figure it out. Thought the whole reason for these website were to share ideas, develop things for the community and help other out with their issues. It's not like I didn't search all over the Internet before coming as a last resort instead of thinking of it and just posting it here first. What a pathetic place to get help. Have a nice day doing whatever it is ya'll people do.
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Hmm... to be fair sometimes a lack of response is more a lack of confidence in any particular response that might be given. At times repercussions get ...awkward... for saying things that others might find ill informed, and as such a tendency to not say anything unless rather certain on the answer develops.
Anyhoo - I hadn't noticed the fact that the mobile network state listed itself as disconnected when connected to wifi... but ultimately (opens self up to possibly saying something stupid...) I can think of no good reason certain functions of the phone (at least mms or the tmobile app) would depend on mobile data being connected while wifi disconnected. Doing a quick test on my end - both of these functions seem to be behaving as expected while on wifi (tested with wifi calling NOT on, not sure that would throw a wrench in anything but you never know) - does the issue exist across wifi sources? That sort of thing might be something to bring up to a TMo service rep - not sure they will be of any help but given the response you've had here it couldn't be much worse, right?
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127 people viewed this and not even a simple yes or no or even post a link to a thread thats relevant to my problem? Posted this on another forum this morning and got 7 people that don't know if you can but are still trying to help me figure it out. Thought the whole reason for these website were to share ideas, develop things for the community and help other out with their issues. It's not like I didn't search all over the Internet before coming as a last resort instead of thinking of it and just posting it here first. What a pathetic place to get help. Have a nice day doing whatever it is ya'll people do.
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Thank you for your response. I finally called Tmobile and they told me that their apps will only work on mobile data and are not meant to work over wifi even though they say my mobile data will always be on it just goes into a low power state and that MMS has to be set to auto receive which somehow was not checked. Everything seems to work fine. Just one question for you. Did i read that you said you could get on your tmobile account app with WiFi on? Again thank you very much for answering me back. Just was have a bad morning because i get alot of MMS messages for work and it got to me... Also I'm one of those guys that no believe in a stupid answer. If someone's trying to help no matter what they say I'm just greatful for the help
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I was able to, but perhaps it was just a trick of app cache as opposed to it actually working... strange they require data, you'd think if it was that much of a need they'd force it to engage and wake up the low power state instead of forcing you to turn off wifi. Ah well, learn something new everyday Sorry I wasn't more help
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Thank you for your response. I finally called Tmobile and they told me that their apps will only work on mobile data and are not meant to work over wifi even though they say my mobile data will always be on it just goes into a low power state and that MMS has to be set to auto receive which somehow was not checked. Everything seems to work fine. Just one question for you. Did i read that you said you could get on your tmobile account app with WiFi on? Again thank you very much for answering me back. Just was have a bad morning because i get alot of MMS messages for work and it got to me... Also I'm one of those guys that no believe in a stupid answer. If someone's trying to help no matter what they say I'm just greatful for the help
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It's ok. Thanks for the help
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We have given our young daughters Galaxy S ll’s. Our cell provider is kajeet.com which has decent parental controls on phone usage including Internet access via the cell connection. But kajeet doesn’t affect the wifi connection. Hence, Internet access is available.
We would like to shut down the wifi and have the phones used only for texting and talk. The girls have other forms of (monitored) Internet access.
Does anyone have a solution for shutting down the wifi connection?
I have done quite a bit of research on the web for an answer and haven’t come up with anything that is largely within our control.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Jona
First up, what model phone are we talking about (sticker on the phone chassis under the battery) ? Reason I ask is, I noticed Kajeet uses Sprint, which means there's a good chance you're in the wrong forum. As the I9100 wasn't sold in great numbers in the US, various carriers have their own variants, which have their own forums here.
I honestly doubt you can do it (I'm not aware of any way to block access outright), you can probably use one of the myriad security apps on Google Play to block WiFi access to individual apps (I.E all of them). But that might be different for different SGS2 variants (being an I9100 forum, I only know this for the I9100).
If you do have a different variant, we'll have the thread moved & maybe those who have the same phone might be able to tell you something different.
Months ago on cm10.1 i had managed to completely disable wifi by accident on numerous occasions by flashing old versions of dorimanx kernels that update the wifi drivers, then flash stock cm kernel again that uses old drivers, couldn't turn wifi on or off until I reflashed cm, so it is indeed possible. Not sure how you'd go about this. Maybe remove wifi drivers from rom if you are rooted? Sorry I'm not much help, just thought I'd share this.
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my opinion, disableing wifi from a young kid will not stop him to access internet from any other place instead it will make him search and found more just because he dont have easy access to information he want. soo this is not the right thing to do but start takling to him and understanding his
needs will do more good. But this is just my opinion it seems thees days there are too many ways to find out things and there is noone who can shut them all off. Cheers!!
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It does look like I belong on a different forum.
>>>there's a good chance you're in the wrong forum
You are correct. My phone is a SPH-0710. Can you please port me over to where I am supposed to be?
Thank you for your help. This has been a frustrating experience, and it is reassuring to have someone take it seriously. I appreciate your taking your time to head me in the right direction.
Jona
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>>>there's a good chance you're in the wrong forum
You are correct. My phone is a SPH-0710. Can you please port me over to where I am supposed to be?
Thank you for your help. This has been a frustrating experience, and it is reassuring to have someone take it seriously. I appreciate your taking your time to head me in the right direction.
Jona
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/epic-4g-touch
jonaona said:
We have given our young daughters Galaxy S ll’s. Our cell provider is kajeet.com which has decent parental controls on phone usage including Internet access via the cell connection. But kajeet doesn’t affect the wifi connection. Hence, Internet access is available.
We would like to shut down the wifi and have the phones used only for texting and talk. The girls have other forms of (monitored) Internet access.
Does anyone have a solution for shutting down the wifi connection?
I have done quite a bit of research on the web for an answer and haven’t come up with anything that is largely within our control.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Jona
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I'm a Moto Atrix 4G and HD user. I know from development on the 4G, we could disable the wifi by not installing certain packages or flashing a kernel without the required lib/module files. I'm in the middle of fixing a friend's S2/Epic 4G touch and I saw this thread. I would think that something similar would be available here, but i am just starting out with this process of helping my friend out so I'm not sure what files really affect the wifi. I'm sure you could root the device and delete the files that enable wifi access, but I'd have to do some digging for that before i advise any further.