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Anybody else getting this when trying to pull up the desktop version of a website? I called customer support and politely explained what I was experiencing and I was told (that she was posting this on the T-Mobile forum) she'd get back to me on Thursday.
Workaround, perhaps?
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That's weird. I always tether and I have never seen that.
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I've heard of others having this happen, but I haven't experienced this myself. What data plan are you on? I wonder if that is a factor? I'm on the $30 Walmart plan.

Ulver said:
That's weird. I always tether and I have never seen that.
I wasn't even tethering! I was just trying to pull up desktop sites instead of mobile.
Buddy Revell said:
I've heard of others having this happen, but I haven't experienced this myself. What data plan are you on? I wonder if that is a factor? I'm on the $30 Walmart plan.
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I'm on a family plan with 5 GB "unlimited data"
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I've replied to every one of these threads it seems. Do just a little research here.
T-Mobile "catches tethering" by filtering UAstring (user agent strings). Problem is, people can have desktop UAstrings on the phone, because they request desktop sites or use 3rd party browsers that only use desktop UAstrings.
Basically theres not much you can do (some things work for some people, no solution worked for me). You can call in and ***** about it but in my experience I wasn't able to get anyone to tell me anything they either literally had no idea what I was talking about, or refused to tell me anything.
In 14 months of T-Mobile service I've only had this happen 1 time, and it was for about 2 weeks then it stopped.
Good Luck.

OP, do you ever tether? If so, how much data do you typically transmit?

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OP, do you ever tether? If so, how much data do you typically transmit?
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It literally has nothing to do with you tethering. You can never turn on tethering and still get that message. They are only filtering UAstrings.

I just started having this problem today, and I spoke at length with a tmo tech who really couldn't help me much, said I needed to talk to Samsung (lol!) And unfortunately the cache/cookie clearing didn't help me at all. I think I'm going to call TMo back again...
UPDATE: Ticket has been submitted to the TMo engineers, so hopefully this will get fixed permanently at their end. This tech was much more helpful and actually listened when I told him was was obviously going on with the UA string filtering, etc. This sucks though...

I know this has nothing to do with tethering but it first showed up after I downloaded a massive file from tethering.
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joeski27 said:
UPDATE: Ticket has been submitted to the TMo engineers, so hopefully this will get fixed permanently at their end. This tech was much more helpful and actually listened when I told him was was obviously going on with the UA string filtering, etc. This sucks though...
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Good luck. My ticket got "submitted to engineers" with an assurance that I'd hear back in 3-5 days and I never got a call back.

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I actually talked to someone in customer support and they seemed to understand that I was not tethering, just trying to access a desktop site. She got back to me with sorry don't know what I can but give me a couple days .
She actually got me on the phone with an engineer who kept asking me about the UAstring. Finally, I had to get into an in depth conversation about ICS and why the UAString is irrelevant. I think it hit home with him and he said they're working on a solution. He promised to keep me in the loop, let's see how that goes.
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BlazinGTI said:
I actually talked to someone in customer support and they seemed to understand that I was not tethering, just trying to access a desktop site. She got back to me with sorry don't know what I can but give me a couple days .
She actually got me on the phone with an engineer who kept asking me about the UAstring. Finally, I had to get into an in depth conversation about ICS and why the UAString is irrelevant. I think it hit home with him and he said they're working on a solution. He promised to keep me in the loop, let's see how that goes.
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Hey thanks for posting your update. I also feel fairly confident that I conveyed the idea that TMo is erroneously using the detection of a desktop UA string as a means of detecting tethering users, and that users of all the best new phones (like the GNex) only ever use the desktop UA as these phones with their big displays and Flash capabilities have rendered the mobile site versions useless. So clearly its on them to sort it out ASAP, otherwise they are going to have thousands and thousands of really pissed off smartphone users.
BTW I'm giving them til Monday afternoon to return my call at which point I'm going to start calling tech support every day and really be up their butt about it. Plus it just so happens that I'm now no longer under contract with them, so I'll let them know if they can't sort it out quickly I'll take my business elsewhere.
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By the way to the OP, might we be able to change the title of the thread to something like "Tmobile using desktop UA to detect tethering, block full websites?" just hoping that anyone and everyone who might be experiencing this to be able to easily spot this thread and know exactly what it is about so that they can chime in with their info or experience.
And actually it would be nice if Android Police or Droid Life picked up on this and posted a story.... perhaps a couple of emails might be in order this evening

joeski27 said:
And actually it would be nice if Android Police or Droid Life picked up on this and posted a story.... perhaps a couple of emails might be in order this evening
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Ya it'd be nice but this has been going on for a very very long time. You're not the first one to call and ***** at them about this.

martonikaj said:
Ya it'd be nice but this has been going on for a very very long time. You're not the first one to call and ***** at them about this.
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Well I just sent email tips to both AP and DL, and linked to this thread so that they can see the screengrabs, etc.
As for the *****ing, I may not be the first to call them about it, but I promise you I can be a bigger pain in the ass about it than pretty much anyone. I'll call and have a ticket processed every day if I have to! The other odd thing that I can't figure out is, I'd been running my Nexus One for over 2 years and now my GN for the last 3 months (on desktop UA for every day of it) and only this morning did I encounter this for the first time. I just wonder, why now all of a sudden? Makes no sense.

A 0001 PRL story...

For those of you who often wonder about the implications of using the Verizon PRL and struggle with poor Sprint service, here is a little story.
I finally got my warning letter after using 0001 for about 4 or 5 months. What surprised me is that I also got a courteous call in which a Sprint rep reminded me of Sprint's roaming policies.
I kindly pointed out that I barely have any data or voice service at my home, which is essentially true. The rep verified my claim, and actually offered me a contract termination without fees as an OPTION. I took the offer, and I am now an ATT SGSII owner. I have full service at my home, and often see dl speeds of 4-8 mbps in my general area on their HSPA+ network.
And so in the end, if you are a Sprint customer struggling with poor service...I really have to recommend using 0001.

boolboo said:
For those of you who often wonder about the implications of using the Verizon PRL and struggle with poor Sprint service, here is a little story.
I finally got my warning letter after using 0001 for about 4 or 5 months. What surprised me is that I also got a courteous call in which a Sprint rep reminded me of Sprint's roaming policies.
I kindly pointed out that I barely have any data or voice service at my home, which is essentially true. The rep verified my claim, and actually offered me a contract termination without fees as an OPTION. I took the offer, and I am now an ATT SGSII owner. I have full service at my home, and often see dl speeds of 4-8 mbps in my general area on their HSPA+ network.
And so in the end, if you are a Sprint customer struggling with poor service...I really have to recommend using 0001.
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I get about 20-25 Mbps up and down with my wifi. And the ping is something like 30ms.
Can your ATT beat that?

I use 1115 so I'll roam when I need it. I don't think I'd last long on a tiered plan without getting dinged with $500 bill sometime. Especially since ATT likes to encourage you to consume data more than usual. Its not like im downloading ROMs or watching movies when I'm out and about.
They could have sent you a airave, problem solved.

nabbed said:
I get about 20-25 Mbps up and down with my wifi. And the ping is something like 30ms.
Can your ATT beat that?
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This wasn't a "ha-ha" sort of post. Just sharing a personal experience. Does your wifi reach outside of your house?
phatmanxxl said:
I use 1115 so I'll roam when I need it. I don't think I'd last long on a tiered plan without getting dinged with $500 bill sometime. Especially since ATT likes to encourage you to consume data more than usual. Its not like im downloading ROMs or watching movies when I'm out and about.
They could have sent you a airave, problem solved.
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Im scared of brain tumors. Doesnt the airave give you those? hahaha

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I get about 20-25 Mbps up and down with my wifi. And the ping is something like 30ms.
Can your ATT beat that?
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this is a stupid response because 1) he obviously doesn't care about how fast his data speed is INSIDE his house where he is most likely using his computer connected to broadband internet anyways; 2) any idiot could've assumed he cares more about data speeds when he's out and about with friends; 3) even if he didn't have broadband internet at home and was tethering his phone data, then all the MORE reason to use ATT instead of Sprint.
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nabbed said:
I get about 20-25 Mbps up and down with my wifi. And the ping is something like 30ms.
Can your ATT beat that?
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Is there a reason you compared wifi speeds to AT&T network speeds besides to be an ass?
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boolboo said:
This wasn't a "ha-ha" sort of post. Just sharing a personal experience.
Im scared of brain tumors. Doesnt the airave give you those? hahaha
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i have a airave that goes out all the time my internet at home is 30down 10up and sprint sucks in my house unless my airave works which it works at times. I want out
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eao1991 said:
Is there a reason you compared wifi speeds to AT&T network speeds besides to be an ass?
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because intelligence is overrated.

How do you like the AT&T SGS2 compared to the E4GT? I switched to AT&T because of their data speeds and am trying out the iPhone 4S right now, still have 2 weeks to decide which phone I want to go with. I might just keep this thing and buy a used SGS2 off craigslist and switch between the two depending on mood.

_MetalHead_ said:
How do you like the AT&T SGS2 compared to the E4GT? I switched to AT&T because of their data speeds and am trying out the iPhone 4S right now, still have 2 weeks to decide which phone I want to go with. I might just keep this thing and buy a used SGS2 off craigslist and switch between the two depending on mood.
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Its fine, a lateral move really. I miss the notification light though. The slightly smaller screen is a toss up. Word has it that ICS will be hitting the ATT SGSII Q1 2012. How do you like the Iphone right now? I almost thought of getting it, but the SGSII is such an awesome device.

Aside from a couple minor (and one MAJOR) complaints, I like it quite a bit. I really thought I was going to hate it, my original intention was to only keep it for a couple weeks and then swap it out for an SGS2 but it has really grown on me. My only real complaint is about Siri. It sucks. I used to use voice commands all the time on android and I feel like that ability is all but lost. Aside from that, I really like the simplicity of iOS, games on it are bad ass (save for the small screen), and the phone itself is beautifully designed and built.

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Aside from a couple minor (and one MAJOR) complaints, I like it quite a bit. I really thought I was going to hate it, my original intention was to only keep it for a couple weeks and then swap it out for an SGS2 but it has really grown on me. My only real complaint is about Siri. It sucks. I used to use voice commands all the time on android and I feel like that ability is all but lost. Aside from that, I really like the simplicity of iOS, games on it are bad ass (save for the small screen), and the phone itself is beautifully designed and built.
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Just don't drop it. EVER. I sell these things and I will toss my ET4G to demo the gorilla glass for customers all the time.

Good stuff boolboo.... cant wait for the e4gt

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Aside from a couple minor (and one MAJOR) complaints, I like it quite a bit. I really thought I was going to hate it, my original intention was to only keep it for a couple weeks and then swap it out for an SGS2 but it has really grown on me. My only real complaint is about Siri. It sucks. I used to use voice commands all the time on android and I feel like that ability is all but lost. Aside from that, I really like the simplicity of iOS, games on it are bad ass (save for the small screen), and the phone itself is beautifully designed and built.
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Do you miss the larger screen at all?
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boolboo said:
Do you miss the larger screen at all?
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For some things. While the games on iOS are FAR superior to those on Android, playing them on such a tiny screen sucks, to be frank. I'll play MC3 on this thing and then play it on my E4GT and it does make me question what the hell I'm doing by switching phones. Internet browsing too just isn't the same. That said, it is nice to not have to do any type of finger acrobatics to reach every corner of the screen. And everything else is great. I thought texting was going to be a problem too but it isn't, the iOS keyboard I'm sorry to say is FAR better than any keyboard I've tried on Android. It's fast and accurate and the autocorrect isn't nearly as bad (or as funny) as all the screencaps floating around would lead us to believe.

_MetalHead_ said:
For some things. While the games on iOS are FAR superior to those on Android, playing them on such a tiny screen sucks, to be frank. I'll play MC3 on this thing and then play it on my E4GT and it does make me question what the hell I'm doing by switching phones. Internet browsing too just isn't the same. That said, it is nice to not have to do any type of finger acrobatics to reach every corner of the screen. And everything else is great. I thought texting was going to be a problem too but it isn't, the iOS keyboard I'm sorry to say is FAR better than any keyboard I've tried on Android. It's fast and accurate and the autocorrect isn't nearly as bad (or as funny) as all the screencaps floating around would lead us to believe.
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I have to agree on the iOS keyboard, best one I have ever used.
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JasonK75 said:
I have to agree on the iOS keyboard, best one I have ever used.
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so true.
i came from iPhone to E4GT and one thing... i mean one and only thing i missed from iphone was the keyboard.

How snappy Is the AT&T version compared to ours?
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My wife has the Skyrocket on the grandfathered plan & her data speeds kick my phones ass.

boolboo said:
Its fine, a lateral move really. I miss the notification light though. The slightly smaller screen is a toss up. Word has it that ICS will be hitting the ATT SGSII Q1 2012. How do you like the Iphone right now? I almost thought of getting it, but the SGSII is such an awesome device.
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Why didnt you get the skyrocket?
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Tmobile tether block on galaxy nexus?

So I usually tether my phone while I travel...I'm not a heavy user, I never get near my 5gb limit. Today while streaming big bang theory from xfinity site about 10 minutes into it the video stopped and when I tried to reload the page I was forwarded to tmobiles hot spot page. I've been able to stream before with no issue
I've always been under the impression that on a nexus they wouldn't be able to tell unless they started doing the at&t method and searched for user agent strings.
I do have the tmobile my account app installed and I thought perhaps maybe they did a recent update to the app that might flag tethering. What's odd is that only certain sites were forwarding me to tmobiles hotspot page ie xfinity and netflix. But Facebook and google searches still worked.
Anyway....with a chrome extension (on os x) I was able to change user string to android 2.3 and everything is unblocked again.
With all these recent talk about tmobile cracking down on free tethering. I am getting worried that they are catching onto us at the expense of risking breaking chrome on our phones or any desktop versions (if they are indeed blocking certain user strings)
Has anyone else had this issue lately? Also I've heard the 5gb plan with one s brings a tethering plan. I current have the 5gb value plan with nexus. Does anyone know if we're eligible for this as well?
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same problem
I didn't think it would happen, but it just did. This is outrageous! I've never had TMobile block my tethering before.

andythefan said:
I didn't think it would happen, but it just did. This is outrageous! I've never had TMobile block my tethering before.
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How is it outrageous for them to block a service you aren't paying for?
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joshnichols189 said:
How is it outrageous for them to block a service you aren't paying for?
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Let's not get into the weeds here, this has been discussed SO many times before. Whether you pay for the hotspot upsell or not, if you're on a tiered (or throttled) data plan, you should be able to use the data any way you please.
OP, I really don't feel like posting a couple paragraphs about how this works, as I've done it so many times before. Basically, they detect you're on a "desktop" browser by looking at your UAstring and redirecting you. This is messing with people who use "request desktop site" on Chrome for Android, which is annoying, and they're actively working to figure out how to handle this situation.
To "fix" this: use a UAstring spoofer on your desktop browser to change it to Firefox or Safari, then reload. Done.
For more info, simply google "T-Mobile tethering redirect error" and start reading. This isn't anything specific to the Galaxy Nexus, and isn't anything new at all. It's been happening for years.

joshnichols189 said:
How is it outrageous for them to block a service you aren't paying for?
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because it shouldn't matter how you are using the data they are providing, especially if they have a tiered data plan. He pays for 5 gigs a month he should be able to use it however he wants.

cade80 said:
because it shouldn't matter how you are using the data they are providing, especially if they have a tiered data plan. He pays for 5 gigs a month he should be able to use it however he wants.
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I am not advocating what they are doing. I am simply saying it is a service they charge for and they have a right to block it if it is being used and not paid for. It might not be fair or right to us, but that is how they run the company so that is how it is.
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joshnichols189 said:
I am not advocating what they are doing. I am simply saying it is a service they charge for and they have a right to block it if it is being used and not paid for. It might not be fair or right to us, but that is how they run the company so that is how it is.
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The US carriers brainwashed you too?
If he paid for his 5gb per month, he should be able to use it as he wishes. No where else but in the US do end users get raped so hard by these greedy corps.

CoronaDelux said:
The US carriers brainwashed you too?
If he paid for his 5gb per month, he should be able to use it as he wishes. No where else but in the US do end users get raped so hard by these greedy corps.
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Did you not read what I said? "I am not advocating what they are doing".
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joshnichols189 said:
I am not advocating what they are doing. I am simply saying it is a service they charge for and they have a right to block it if it is being used and not paid for. It might not be fair or right to us, but that is how they run the company so that is how it is.
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This, a thousand times.
It's not about brainwashing, it's about a simple understanding of who wins the argument of "Who is following the terms and conditions?". (Hint: it's not us!)
Are the T&C based off anything other than making money? No, but we still agree to them. Don't agree to them? You don't have to use the
It's sad that it's inevitable but it's also simple to subvert, so just do it. Crying about it gets you nowhere.

Thanks for the replies guys. I ended up downloading "ultimate agent switcher" extension for chrome and that works.
I was just taken a bit off guard because I've been tethering with tmobile since the nexus one. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one!
I didn't think it would become that big of a deal for tmobile since nexus/rooted users are a minority (I think). Maybe some users heavily abused tethering and racked up an insane amount of data.
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lazaro17 said:
So I usually tether my phone while I travel...I'm not a heavy user, I never get near my 5gb limit. Today while streaming big bang theory from xfinity site about 10 minutes into it the video stopped and when I tried to reload the page I was forwarded to tmobiles hot spot page. I've been able to stream before with no issue
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T-mobile is doing a 'soft' crack down on tetherers. I tether regularly at work, but 95% of the time it is to tether my tablets (HP touchpad and galaxy tab). I have the 5GB data plan and I have never even used more than 1GB in a month.
I tethered my phone to my laptop all week last week and on Friday I was hit with a redirect that steered my web browser to a web page telling me that I could add tethering to my account. What is interesting is that the redirect page came in about 30 minutes after I had used bit torrent to download a 1.34 MB file. Loading up large web pages or videos on youtube the previous week occurred without issue. Even after getting the redirect on my laptop, tethering to my android tablet worked just fine.
My guess is that T-mobile is watching their traffic and flagging the types of traffic that cause high network usage (which bit torrent certainly does).
As for the ethics of tethering, the carriers don't really have a leg to stand on. They want to charge you more money without providing any additional services. After all, I went out and found the tethering program that *someone else* wrote and compiled for android and installed it on the phone that I own. What did the carrier do? They sold me 5GB of data and they should honor their end of the deal.
They can start complaining about tethering when they start refunding me money for voice minutes each month that I end up not using.

Interesting thread I got T-Mobile recently and I notice the my plan says hot spot smartphone does that mean I could use mine without worrying about this topic ?
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jgalan14 said:
Interesting thread I got T-Mobile recently and I notice the my plan says hot spot smartphone does that mean I could use mine without worrying about this topic ?
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yes. you are paying for it.

Zepius said:
yes. you are paying for it.
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Oh cool thanks
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You pay for for data, why should you not be able to use it as you want. By doing this t-mobile broke many third party browsers and are now claiming that its not their fault and that they do not support third party apps. In reality the third party apps are working fine, just have a differ user agent string them t-mobile's. Even the full blown ICS browser its blocked in many cases.
In this thread some easy to preform workarounds are listed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677490
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shnn2011 said:
You pay for for data, why should you not be able to use it as you want. By doing this t-mobile broke many third party browsers and are now claiming that its not their fault and that they do not support third party apps. In reality the third party apps are working fine, just have a differ user agent string them t-mobile's. Even the full blown ICS browser its blocked in many cases.
In this thread some easy to preform workarounds are listed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677490
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Been using Chrome (Version 20.0.1132.17 beta right now) with the Chrome UAstring switcher (which you link to as well) to "Windows Firefox 10" and its been working fine for months. When switching the UAstring to either Firefox or Safari, I've had some issues with pages (mainly Google+) not working 100%, but that's no big deal to me.
You can also just load up Safari/Firefox if you want (never had any redirects there), but I prefer to use Chrome + UAstring switcher, as I'm too much of a Chromepuff to switch. The most interesting thing about all of this is they only seem to be blocking Chrome's Desktop UAstring... and not the others.
As far as from a philosophical standpoint, I completely disagree with T-Mobile's practices.
But honestly if they're going to "block" tethering, I'd take this method over nasty tracking software on handsets or full-out blocking of specific sites (things I'd straight up leave T-Mo over). I'm a big advocate of the "it's your (capped) data, use it however you want" argument. I don't really see what the issue is if I'm paying for data and peg the 5GB cap every month streaming Netflix, whether it's on a phone (which btw can be MHL'd to a 60" plasma) or on a PC. Data is data is data. It's just a blatant money grab that T-Mobile is following in line behind Verizon, AT&T and Sprint who make amazing profit margins using these (and harsher) practices.

Finally got caught by t mobile...

So I had been tethering my ps3 on CM10 and Slim bean and didn't have any problems... I was playing yesterday morning and then left the house for like 30 minutes... when I got back, it would not connect anymore and would bring me to the buy tethering... idk what caused it to be detected... maybe they implemented a way to block it even on AOSP ROMs.... so here's the thing... VPNs work by establishing a secure connection... well why is it that I still get the dreaded buy tethering page... ? Are they unencrypting my VPN? What are some alternatives to get around this? I'm no noob to android... I don't see why I have to pay another fifteen bucks on Internet I already paid for... sadly tethering days on cm10 are over for me... is there any ROM you guys are on that still allow you to tether?

Liquid smooth with foxfi and foxfi key. Key cost $7 on market. You can find it for free if you look for it. You get unlimited tethering. Works for me so far.
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so you were caught violating your TOS ..... shocking.....

Try Wifi Tether for Root Users. MUCH better than Foxfi and free. Set it to use alternate DNS
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5nb29nbGVjb2RlLmFuZHJvaWQud2lmaS50ZXRoZXIiXQ..

talltexan said:
so you were caught violating your TOS ..... shocking.....
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Yeah this.

talltexan said:
so you were caught violating your TOS ..... shocking.....
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Not even just violating, completely disregarding. There's tethering and then there is tethering your ps3.... At least show some discretion... Damn kids.
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algorhythm said:
Not even just violating, completely disregarding. There's tethering and then there is tethering your ps3.... At least show some discretion... Damn kids.
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reminds me of the "work around" when people would be throttled for using too much data....... hey i only pay for 200mb but i have downloaded 6 gigs and they caught me ...... more and more i feel like this.
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talltexan said:
reminds me of the "work around" when people would be throttled for using too much data....... hey i only pay for 200mb but i have downloaded 6 gigs and they caught me ...... more and more i feel like this.
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I hear you man. I have 2gb plan but use foxfi for what I need to do tethering. But hey I am 39 so I know if I get tore off I can't be mad at nobody.
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There's a mod you can do to your framework files to bypass the tethering warning, and speed cap too! (Not sure if it's entirely legal, but no staff on XDA has taken it down yet..) It's on the T-Mobile Galaxy S III forums in Android Dev posted by Jovy23.

You guys are funny with the tos talk, if u cant offer unlimited than dont offer it. Devices are able to utilize internet by manufactuer feature...data is data especially if your trying to offer unlimited.....sneaking tos with intials boxes and when you try to read the tos it would require a contract expert that bargined for a clearer fairer contract....member the game lemmings?

minlo said:
You guys are funny with the tos talk, if u cant offer unlimited than dont offer it. Devices are able to utilize internet by manufactuer feature...data is data especially if your trying to offer unlimited.....sneaking tos with intials boxes and when you try to read the tos it would require a contract expert that bargined for a clearer fairer contract....member the game lemmings?
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If *you* read the contract they have every right to provide the tethering service to you for violating the terms of the agreement (which the unlimited Internet plan does NOT include).
Before you try to sound like you know what you are talking about, please do some research.
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algorhythm, What part of TOS give T-Mobile rights to charge us for 4G service while not delivering it from the first data packet requested?

Krzysiek_CK said:
algorhythm, What part of TOS give T-Mobile rights to charge us for 4G service while not delivering it from the first data packet requested?
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....here we go. In a nutshell, don't steal, don't cheat, and if you do don't post about it because the T-Mobile Xda Police will tell you that you are doing wrong, and should burn in hell for violating TOS which 3 people in the world have read.
If you don't like T-Mobile and their policies, jump off... Trackphone awaits you.
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I just came across this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35688003

Honestly I never came close to my internet 2gb cap before but i really hate that they market their internet as unlimited and cap it. And if they were to cap my internet why should it matter how much I tether then? I'm by no means an expert.
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socal-trucker said:
I just came across this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35688003
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Lol How did you 'come across this' when it was mentioned by TLS one page back? lulz, thanks for the direct link tho hahaha
But I agree with the other people, if you violate the TOS and get caught, dont whine about it. :good:
edit: completely off topic, but duckied, love your avatar, rotary engines ftw!

Krzysiek_CK said:
algorhythm, What part of TOS give T-Mobile rights to charge us for 4G service while not delivering it from the first data packet requested?
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http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-data-plan
Network Management: Data traffic of Premium and Ultra plans will be prioritized over other currently offered plans during periods of congestion. Service may be slowed, suspended, terminated, or restricted for misuse, abnormal use, interference with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users, or significant roaming.
Last I checked, using a mobile/cellular network to play online with a ps3 is misuse or abnormal.
The terms are clearly laid out when you sign up. If you are that ignorant to really think unlimited means you can take absolutely unlimited data then I don't think you guys should be legally signing contracts due to lack of mental capacity.
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solution!!!
here is the solution, it works for me. ive been using it for a few days now n it works flawless. tethering ma ps3 n computer..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063043
im running the latest PAC-man rom. instead of using hotspot shield vpn, im using vpn1click n on the tethering app, i downloaded the one the one on dis link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390208427046731813 .. now on the settings on the app, the only way i got it to work was putting on device-profile to "google nexus s 4g" hope it works for yall!

And people like this are part of the reason why it's almost impossible to find unlimited data plans anymore
Give an inch, take a mile and a half.
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Funny thing about using wifi tether to game is that watching netflix thru phone app will use 8 times more data in the same hour of usage......Ive used 50 gigs with just phone no tether, gigs is gigs. If the contract was fair and just i bet it wouldnt be hard to fit it on one page and in language understandable to their customer base....
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algorhythm said:
And people like this are part of the reason why it's almost impossible to find unlimited data plans anymore
Give an inch, take a mile and a half.
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Your thoughts are the exact reason verizon and att charge so much for so little data. Internet data is gouged worse than gas.
Unlimited is not giving an inch, that would be the 200mb carriers overcharge for.
If you think unlimited is a mile and half, let me sell you everything you want to buy lol
What does unlimited mean if it doesnt mean unlimited?
Since when is okay to offer something your not really trying provide and hide it in a tos?
Buffets should start charging to use forks and spoons using your logic, its okay some lemmings have to fall of the cliff before the ones figuring out from behind how to redirect

Is sprint blocking torrents now?

I have been trying various torrent apps and none of them seem to work anymore. Is it just me/my phone, my service area, or did sprint block all torrents from getting through?
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I think Sprint might have. But I have no issue when I tether my phone to my computer
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lol no sprint does not block downloading torrents, I average 30gb a month using phone/tether I would know =)
all torrent apps work but i recommend using aTorrent it always seems to work.

They're definitely blocking torrents now. Especially if you are using closed websites. If you are using open websites vuze connects after a few restarts but forget about utorrent. You can try downloading the openoffice torrent to try it and you will get the closed connection by peer error (or something like that) on utorrent and the socketexception error on vuze which mean they are indeed blocking traffic.
edit: btw Im talking about torrents while tethering, I have not tried it with a client app on the phone itself.

I torrent all day long using native usb tether with Utorrent or any other program/app, please guy your spreading false rumours...sprint is NOT blocking torrenting
btw I have that torrent downloading just fine usb tethered to my laptop.

Phr3d13 said:
I have been trying various torrent apps and none of them seem to work anymore. Is it just me/my phone, my service area, or did sprint block all torrents from getting through?
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Delete the sprint proxy using ##3282# in the dial app

that was one of the first things I did, and it seemed to help for about a half an hour, then the connections got crappy again. I have since deleted the torrent I was trying to get and started a different one. it completed with no problems. I am also being told by sprint that my area is going through network vision upgrades. so I'm guessing that is the likely culprit

Have you tried orbot app or DROID vpn? Orbot is a little slower but it worked when I had the problem before I deleted the sprint proxy
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For some reason it seems that TouchWiz ROMs are fine about downloading torrents but the AOSP based ROMs are not... /hmm

Still having this issue? I am. Sometimes it will work if I pause and unpause the download but that's rare. VPNs don't work either
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Delete the sprint proxy using ##3282# in the dial app
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Ok I dialed the number. Now what? Is there a risk? Will it void my warranty?

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Nope. Works just fine for me. I use tTorrent.
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SGSIIIJB said:
I torrent all day long using native usb tether with Utorrent or any other program/app, please guy your spreading false rumours...sprint is NOT blocking torrenting
btw I have that torrent downloading just fine usb tethered to my laptop.
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Dude he is NOT spreading rumors, they are doing it to me too. ALSO There is a link of Sprint straight up admitting that they block peer2peer traffic
Just Google Sprint Blocking Torrents, It'll be the first link that leads to the Sprint Message Board (I can't post links yet)
SprintCare:
"Peer-to-peer sharing directly violates Sprint's terms and conditions. This includes the use of file-sharing sites such as Bittorrent, Ares, Gnutella, eDonkey and PP Live. Sprint has begun blocking these sites proactively. Thank you for your patience and understanding."

WarriorAtlas said:
Dude he is NOT spreading rumors, they are doing it to me too. ALSO There is a link of Sprint straight up admitting that they block peer2peer traffic
Just Google Sprint Blocking Torrents, It'll be the first link that leads to the Sprint Message Board (I can't post links yet)
SprintCare:
"Peer-to-peer sharing directly violates Sprint's terms and conditions. This includes the use of file-sharing sites such as Bittorrent, Ares, Gnutella, eDonkey and PP Live. Sprint has begun blocking these sites proactively. Thank you for your patience and understanding."
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As Ive posted time and time again... Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading nor does it monitor when, where, why, what your downloading. My GS3 is my primary ISP I torrent HUGE files up to 7GB all day long! highest month usage was in the 60GB range with no issues. I pay for my unlimited data and I use it to the FULLEST.
Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading/torrenting, please stop spreading false rumors.

SGSIIIJB said:
As Ive posted time and time again... Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading nor does it monitor when, where, why, what your downloading. My GS3 is my primary ISP I torrent HUGE files up to 7GB all day long! highest month usage was in the 60GB range with no issues. I pay for my unlimited data and I use it to the FULLEST.
Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading/torrenting, please stop spreading false rumors.
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I'm guessing you didn't bother doing the research I've provided you. It's too much reading for you I suppose.
It's great for you that it works for you and I have a Galaxy S4 with unlimited data as well. On my phone, bittorrent DOES in fact work, and I do several gigs a month as well. My point with this is that just because something doesn't apply to you, it doesn't mean it's not an issue. That's a very narrow-minded and immature way to look at the world.
My wifi from sprint however does not work, on any of my devices (7 in total between computers, tablets, and phones) nor on my neighbors computer (so it's not just me).
PLUS THEY FREAKING ADMIT TO DOING IT! I don't get why this isn't enough evidence for you considering they don't hide the fact.
Using a VPN I can get by the block and make it work, so it's not an issue for me anymore. For anyone else out there with this issue you can try using a VPN or I've heard enabling encryption on your torrent client will work too.
I hope this helps those who are having this issue.

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I'm guessing you didn't bother doing the research I've provided you. It's too much reading for you I suppose.
It's great for you that it works for you and I have a Galaxy S4 with unlimited data as well. On my phone, bittorrent DOES in fact work, and I do several gigs a month as well. My point with this is that just because something doesn't apply to you, it doesn't mean it's not an issue. That's a very narrow-minded and immature way to look at the world.
My wifi from sprint however does not work, on any of my devices (7 in total between computers, tablets, and phones) nor on my neighbors computer (so it's not just me).
PLUS THEY FREAKING ADMIT TO DOING IT! I don't get why this isn't enough evidence for you considering they don't hide the fact.
Using a VPN I can get by the block and make it work, so it's not an issue for me anymore. For anyone else out there with this issue you can try using a VPN or I've heard enabling encryption on your torrent client will work too.
I hope this helps those who are having this issue.
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Guy, this is real simple... If Sprint was blocking torrneting/downloading/w/e u want to call it; It would effect ALL of US customers not just you, Short answer Sprint does NOT block any torrneting/tethered/Hotspot/again w/e u want to call it; downloading.

Maybe it's just their partners.... in central VA we don't have sprint towers we use ntelos towers, everyone I know who has sprint or boost mobile can't torrent with out a vpn like torgard...
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SGSIIIJB said:
Guy, this is real simple... If Sprint was blocking torrneting/downloading/w/e u want to call it; It would effect ALL of US customers not just you, Short answer Sprint does NOT block any torrneting/tethered/Hotspot/again w/e u want to call it; downloading.
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If you had done any research on the statements made by Sprint themselves (Which your ignorance and ineptitude clearly have shown that you didn't) you would know that they only block or throttle certain ports known to be used for torrenting, and only in certain locations at the moment. AGAIN This is ALL COMING FROM SPRINT! This is why using vpns to port forward seems to work. Other people have had the exact same issue, and have also heard from Sprint that this is in their T and C. I made it really easy for you understand and gather the information for yourself only because it's a benefit to others to have this info. However I don't really like dealing with idiots so if you still don't get it after this, then I will just give up. I will continue posting this info on here and on other boards and forums to spread the word.
blastboi said:
Maybe it's just their partners.... in central VA we don't have sprint towers we use ntelos towers, everyone I know who has sprint or boost mobile can't torrent with out a vpn like torgard...
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blastboi, thank you for you contribution. You and your friends are not alone in this experience. Maybe SGSIIIJB will see that he is not the only person in the world and that just because he doesn't experience a problem, it doesn't mean that others don't experience it. I really appreciate your help.
Edit: Reading more and more I am finding so much stuff that confirms this and I'm finding that most ISP's are throttling p2p in some way.

SGSIIIJB said:
As Ive posted time and time again... Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading nor does it monitor when, where, why, what your downloading. My GS3 is my primary ISP I torrent HUGE files up to 7GB all day long! highest month usage was in the 60GB range with no issues. I pay for my unlimited data and I use it to the FULLEST.
Sprint does NOT block any type of downloading/torrenting, please stop spreading false rumors.
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https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/756219
I'm in Portland, OR and I can't download torrents anymore. Tethered to my PC or from my native client. Sprint is doing something.