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Today is the Day!

I get my shiny new 6502 today and I am sooo excited I am coming from a Note II.
Reasons I switched:
Love the fact that it is a 5" screen but compact, tired of lugging around such a huge phone but love a bigger screen.
Love the clean UI, almost Nexus 4'ish.
Love that it's not all glass like the Z because I use my phones naked so less chance of damage there.
Love the fact that I bought a factory unlocked phone and that I am actually going to finally give T Mobile a try (coming from AT&T), will save $70 a month.
Love the fact that my phone will be different than the other 90% of the population because its not an iPhone or Samsung.
Love the fact that paired up with my shiny new black Pebble watch, this will be a sick combo!
Love 13MP camera so i can zoom into everything. (use phone a lot for engineering work and take pictures of things for notes)
Also love the fact that I bought an HTC One (still waiting for it) and will probably use both as my daily driver (I get bored really quick haha)
Concerns:
I hope that the camera is good and if not that we can either tweak the software for the original camera app, or get a custom camera app that will work better.
I hope the display doesn't wash out as bad as everyone says (or that I don't actually use the screen from a different angle, because I have never thought of it)
Hope the external speaker is at least decent enough that if I watch youtube videos I can hear them ok.
Hope I can tweak the heck out of the phone.
Hope I can get the camera app to launch faster. (might just have to keep it loaded in memory before I know I am going to use it, but what happens when you need it quickly...)
Just some of my thoughts for now as I day dream of my new phone today.
Come on mail lady, please be swift today!
If you have any thoughts on any of these things, or your own reasons you switched or concerns, I would love to hear them.
I will post back on here as soon as I get the phone in my hands (my precious will be with me soon) haha

Guess what I just got in my hands! My little precious!!!

Congratulations! I find that my zl battery got so much better after about 5 days, also I find it gets less warm these days. I have action launcher, lmt launcher and the phone is great. I find the camera launches pretty fast using the shutter key.

Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
10x faster than my Note 2.
Will continue to download all my apps and get it fully customized and write more later on it.
1st impressions; love it!

Hardcore73 said:
Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
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I agree! Every single time I pick up the phone, it just sits so well in the hand. I wanna touch it over and over again. I even run my hands over it gently when its lying in front of me with that gorgeous back

Hardcore73 said:
Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
10x faster than my Note 2.
Will continue to download all my apps and get it fully customized and write more later on it.
1st impressions; love it!
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awesome...seriously that faster over note 2? haha

If you live in a major city. Try T-Mobile, they are upgrading their network at the moment to 4g/LTE. Although LTE is not ready to be turned on. I'm working on the NYC metro market.
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6502 does not have LTE

After using this phone for a full day I am so in love with it. I really was unsure and thought it would just get me by until the HTC showed up.
This might actually become my new daily driver.
Been messing with camera app all day. It is hit or miss.

Everything about the phone is great. I can also go a whole day with moderate use.
only downfall of this phone is the camera software. Pictures are hit or miss.

I have to say i'm very disappointed.
Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.

GodKingKnight said:
Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.
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Wtf is we didn't even get flagship? That's a reason the zl can't beat one or s4? Wow the people on this forum does not fail to amaze me with their stupidity every single day.
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This phone is a flag ship. Sony may be behind on processor and screen but the difference against the competition in real world use is not visible. If you read all the blogs and believe everything you read you may believe this phone is inferior. Actually the ZL holds its own. Just sold my htc one for it. Horses for courses.
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Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.
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I prefer ZL over the two phones u mentioned. Overall ZL seems well rounded device & better suited to my use. Of course, ZL is a flagship (along with Z). I'd have answered objectively if only your post were so!

switching from nexus 4
I just ordered a 6502 today, should be here tuesday or wednesday.
I'm switching from a nexus 4. Yes I know but I have always liked Sony:laugh:

glovesave said:
I just ordered a 6502 today, should be here tuesday or wednesday.
I'm switching from a nexus 4. Yes I know but I have always liked Sony:laugh:
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You will keep picking it up, just feels so good in the hand. Sony has come along way from the days of x10
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Hey, I liked the x10!!!

ronj1986 said:
Hey, I liked the x10!!!
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software was so blotted and the built quality was alright..

Great phone!
I'm also waiting for my HTC One in the mail. My carrier was offering a ridiculous deal for the ZL so I went for it, and will make my decision when it comes. The ZL is awesome for many unique reasons and could very well become my DD
Elegant design - great feel in the hand!
Can use one handed because of compact design and small bezel
Display is gorgeous. Yeah we know about the poor viewing angles...but we mainly look at our phones straight on...right?
Sexy and visible LED notification light (HTC take note)
Power button has perfect placement. It's just accessible no matter how you pick up the phone (again take note HTC)
Expandable storage
Dedicated camera button
Clean and unbloated Android experience. Super fast ui response!
IR blaster works great with other devices
Great sound with headphones
No point in outlining negatives here. Either way you slice it this is a fantastic phone....enjoy it!

got it....love my 6502
It came today, haven't had time to play too much with it so still setting it up.
So far I am loving it.
Don't have to enable data to receive pictures in my texts (that always annoyed me on the Nexus 4). Also I am torn between all the updates vs giving even more info to Google. I picked the Sony route for a bit.
Love the 5 inch size, with the screen taking most of the front it is just right it seems
Went with the unlocked 6502, won't pay $200 extra for LTE (I'm on WIFI all the time anyways)

Xperia ZL or Galaxy S3?

I found a deal that would get me a Galaxy S3 or an Xperia ZL at the same price, the S3 is new, and the Xperia ZL is a used one. I've been having many problems with my Galaxy Nexus lately and am looking for a suitable replacement.
Which one is a better option?
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If ZL is in good condition then you can go for Xperia ZL becoz you will get latest tech spec compare S3, and S3 is now year old device..........

However, Galaxy S3 has an SAMOLED screen (far better blacks and far batter viewing angles), replacable battery and a way bigger developer community. It depends what you expect from your phone.
I had to face the same decision and decided to get the Xperia ZL for the Full HD resolution and hopefully better lifetime of my screen (SAMOLED screens tend to get worse over the course of years).
Greetings

Yeah, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I was searching for a phone with a great dev support. I like everything about the S3 except the design. And I like the ZL because of it's newer innards and FullHD screen, but I've heard that it's really washed out, color wise..
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yeah the display appears washed-out when you don't look directly into the screen but in real life it does't matter much at least for me now its depend you...... i had same problem choosing between this phones but i wanted latest spec so that i can have good gaming experience as well as watching video on 5" Full HD screen its too Good, you can compare both phone online that may help you.....

Get ZL if its in good condition.
Its better than s3.
But just make sure ZL is not opened and repaired...before
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Well actually i came from S3, i love the viewing angles, and battery replace. but i decided to buy the ZL and let me tell you. ZL its like 1000 times better than S3 in terms of support, hardware, and even quality and design, viewing angles i dont really care, its not that bad at all. the truth is that the screen it the best screen i have seen on a phone, really 441 pixel per inch and a 5'? wow in a compact design even much smaller than S3.
In other words, go for the ZL if the phone is in excelent condition and never had been opened.:good:

Yeah, I went to a nearby shop and got a hands on of the ZL, really nice phone.
What's the battery like? Screen on with 3g?
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With 3G I'd say 3-4 hours but WiFi I get around 5 hours max.
Screen pixels are awesome but energivore. You'll get used to it tho.
The Sony UI is also a huge bonus over vanilla Android UI. At first I was annoyed by it but now I feel like I'm really using my Android phone for real.

I'd go for the ZL. It feels much better than the S3, and looks much better, too. On top of that, you get a better processor (Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412), a better graphics chip (Adreno 320 vs Mali 400), and twice the amount of RAM (1 GB vs 2 GB). On top of that, you get a full HD screen. There have been complaints about the viewing angles, but I'd say the viewing angles are not as bad as they are made out to be. Viewed top-down, though, the display is really, really good. For some reason--and I've observed this on a couple of units--the ZL's display is better than the Z's (I've actually got to evaluate both side by side with a Z).
So, if the ZL's in pristine condition, I'd say you go for it. Otherwise, if it's been "damaged" to some extent--you know, scratches and stuff--opt for the S3. Because personally, I wouldn't go for a damaged phone, no matter how good it might be specs-wise, and neither would I advise anybody to. That said, if you're going to be using your device heavily, and there's the need to carry around a spare battery, then it's obvious the S3's the best bet for you. So, weigh up your options, see what you need. If you're going to be carrying around a spare battery for backup, you're good with the S3. Otherwise, I'd definitely pick the ZL over the S3.

S3 is good, but ZL it's better, for me. :good:

Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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coolrevi said:
Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update

Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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danieldp1990 said:
the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update
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From 6.7 I got that issue... That's really strange, a repair might just fix that. Didn't get time to do it yet..
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jonathanpeter said:
Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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Note is different kind of phone. Bigger screen, s pen, these are some added features, which is not there in any of these phones discussed. And all of these are priced at similar range. my suggestion, go to a store use all these phone side by side pick the one you like most, if you are routine phone switcher consider note 2 as is got good resale price of all these phones.
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Is the battery life on the One X+ really bad? I'm in love with this phone.
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Sticking Around or Moving On?

I am just curious to see how everyone feels about their ZL, or experience with Sony as a whole.
For me it's been a mixed bag. Overall, this is by LONG and FAR the most headache-free phone I've ever owned. Period. It's got all the features that I need and it works as it should when needed. I would not trade it for any other Android phone out there, especially a Samsung or HTC. With that all said, I can't help myself being sucked in by all the Nexus 5 rumors. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I should have naturally grabbed the Nexus 4, but lack of AT&T-compatible LTE kept me away. Now, with rumored specs coming out by the day, I must say that I am highly tempted by the prospect of owning a Nexus 5.
So what hasn't Sony done to possibly lose me as a customer? Here is the list:
Camera
I doubt I'm alone here to admit that I got had [major time] by Sony's PR when it came to the camera. Simply put, the camera is pure rubbish. I use my work provided iPhone 5c to take pics instead. Sad.
Hardware
Speaking strictly of the paint around the edge, could sony have made it less durable? The slightest bump flakes it off.
Update
I love the fact that there is an update every month to address an issue or two. The bad part, every update either reintroduces an old issue or introduces a new one. Come on.
Wireless Charging
Instead of focusing their efforts on waterproofing, I would love to see Sony bring us wireless charging. Chances of me using wireless charging, every hour of every day. Chances of me diving into a pool with my phone, next to none.
AOSP
If you're going to claim that you support the open community and such, don't release AOSP binaries that do not work. That defeats the whole purpose. I don't mind Sony's stock ROMs, but I like the fact that AOSP gets me the latest and greatest.
Speakers
iPhone had it right. HTC One got it right. Nexus 5 rumored to have gotten it right. Why did Sony put the speaker on the back of the phone is beyond me. It renders it useless when in it's natural position.
So, does this mean I don't adore my Xperia ZL? No, far from it. Does it mean I might consider an alternative device that gives me the above, maybe. Is the Nexus 5 looking better and better? Yeah!

The ZL was the phone I kept the longest in years...
Moving to a Z1. Just receive from Clove. Not waiting for the US ones.
ZL will stay as a back up.
Sendt fra XPERIA ZL 6506

Even if I had €1000000 I would probably still stick with ZL until Sony comes with a ZL1.
Z1f looks nice thought but I don't wanna go back to 4.3". I just want a ZL with new hardware and waterproof.
But... I don't have €1000000 so I will have my ZL for at least another 1.5 years if all goes well

I love my ZL but today I've saw the Note 3 and damn it's a nice phone.. Thinking about moving forward...
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Sticking around with zl, however fully dependant on nexus 5 features and pricing.
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Luv my zl, but kinda bored with it. Thinking of z ultra, or maybe im dreaming..
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I'll be replacing my ZL with the Note 5 or 6, it wholly depends on when it dies on me.

coming from galaxy s4...lovin my ZL:victory:

Based on leaks from the official Google Play store, the 16GB is sure to be $349. Guessing the 32GB is $399. The phone looks sick good though. Like I said, love my ZL, but wireless charging and stock Android might win me over with that price.
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Sticking around with zl, however fully dependant on nexus 5 features and pricing.
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Are the pictures really that bad on the ZL cause that would be of the only thing's that I don't like about the phone that and the fact they don't use guerrilla glass looking to leave my Xperia T for a ZL I'm not liking any other phone at the moment.
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spielnicht said:
Based on leaks from the official Google Play store, the 16GB is sure to be $349. Guessing the 32GB is $399. The phone looks sick good though. Like I said, love my ZL, but wireless charging and stock Android might win me over with that price.
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From Xperia t to zl I don see it as upgrade. If you are willing to buy I would rather suggest z1 which is a good buy in many term
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I'll keep mine till its dead, I was thinking about the Z1 but its way to big, if they do a new more powerful 5" with the same overall size as the ZL I would consider it in 2 years... interested to see if the camera gets any more improvements in the ZL, I like the quality, but not as picky as some..... video recording is good too.... Battery life could use a little more help though
Hoping for the Z1 camera App on the ZL in the 4.3 update, hopefully before Christmas...... Personally I think superior auto sucks, no image stabilizer, normal mode with my own settings works great.
4.4 may never come but that's ok, as long as 4.3 gets minor tweaking updates here and there.

So do you guys think the ZL is a good phone for a beginner?
The Z1 looks bulky indeed and LG G2 will be sold in my country (Brazil) only in 16GB option (no SD slot? WTF LG?)
I don´t have plans to play powerful games on it (just angry birds or something like when I'm waiting for something). I want a bigger screen to my GPS aps, listen music via Bluethoot (via car stereo) and watch video (High def videos on SD card, youtube, vimeo etc)

My dad has an Xperia T and based on some comparison shots, the images don't differ much. In other words, they both...suck. If I was to pick a single disappointment with the ZL, it would be the camera.
I know where you are coming from not liking any other phone out there. I am not an SG4 or HTC One fan. I'd consider the Z1, but Sony really dropped the ball by not including an AT&T/T-Mobile LTE friendly chip. So it's not even a consideration for me
Definitely wait until the Nexus 5 comes out. Looks very promising, both in specs and design.
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Are the pictures really that bad on the ZL cause that would be of the only thing's that I don't like about the phone that and the fact they don't use guerrilla glass looking to leave my Xperia T for a ZL I'm not liking any other phone at the moment.
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thinking of upgrading from a xperia ion....zl is the maximum that i can afford..nd i kinda love the white one
Is there anything else apart from the camera that i should look into before buying?
no nexus in my country else would've waited for nexus 5 :/

I've take the same picture with an iPhone 5 and with my Xperia T and then again the same picture with a Galaxy s3 we compared them at work and my other to co-workers had to agree that the Xperia T photo looked the best though mind you Bravia was enabled yes there's room for improvement on Sony's camera phones but even with the Bravia engine turned off the photos are not that far behind the rest of the mobile devices out there but what it does lack is consistency that the others have now with the z1 having better hardware and software the problem with the camera is almost gone it just seems to over expose photos at times so does the LG G2 though it's clearly not as good in the comparison that I've seen between it and the Z1
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Torres77an said:
I've take the same picture with an iPhone 5 and with my Xperia T and then again the same picture with a Galaxy s3 we compared them at work and my other to co-workers had to agree that the Xperia T photo looked the best though mind you Bravia was enabled yes there's room for improvement on Sony's camera phones but even with the Bravia engine turned off the photos are not that far behind the rest of the mobile devices out there but what it does lack is consistency that the others have now with the z1 having better hardware and software the problem with the camera is almost gone it just seems to over expose photos at times so does the LG G2 though it's clearly not as good in the comparison that I've seen between it and the Z1
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That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.

my photos look basically the same after they have been uploaded to my pc
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That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.
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I've also seen comparisons with the iPhone 5 and the Xperia T on the internet and the iPhone's aren't that much better better but not by much but definitely more consistent I think the Xperia software may need some work with it's poor autofocus half of the photos do turn out like crap.

Torres77an said:
I've also seen comparisons with the iPhone 5 and the Xperia T on the internet and the iPhone's aren't that much better better but not by much but definitely more consistent I think the Xperia software may need some work with it's poor autofocus half of the photos do turn out like crap.
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Yup, they do need to give that a work over, but someone pointed be in the direction of Camera FV-5, which is brilliant. The best camera app I've ever used, only downside is it does not have an auto-mode, and sometimes it does not save the pictures, especially when you use the hardware camera button.
Hope that gets fixed soon.

That's exactly what I did Took a pic of the same object, dropped them in Lightroom side-by-side, the ZL was slightly better (very slightly), but neither anything to brag out.
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That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.
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Only £199.95 now!

If you're like me and wanting this phone, you'll be pleased to hear that the phone is now only £199.95
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_ASCEND_P6/HANDSET
I do want this phone, because of the build quality and how slim it is, that is literally the only reason, but reviews seem so bad now, the performance is terrible and it over heats so bad
Maybe its worth waiting for the P6S ? But how much more will that be?
Jack

Now obviously if the pricing of P6S is going to be the same, then P6S is better. It just matter of weeks before it gone release. Its best to wait because on the one hand you can make a better decision seeing the performance of P6S and on the other hand, the price of P6 would further reduce when P6S is out.
Other than that it depends on your needs. P6S advantages being:
- Better optimized gaming and performance in general
- better battery life
- 16g internal memory
- maybe LTE
If your not a gamer nor heavy user, then the above needs arent really important.
I dont have the heat issues in such way its mentioned on websites. The highest heat i have experienced is when benchmarking at times, and it wasnt serious heat like its gone explode but instead heat at a level of feeling discomfort of not being normal. Most complains maybe cause of people using older firmware.

Mine doesn't overheat either. I mean, it gets warm when I'm using it a lot, but I guess that comes with having such a slim phone with an aluminium back which acts like a heatsink.
Looking at the P6S i think it's going to be thicker than the P6. Even just 1mm thicker defeats the whole point of having the phone (for me anyway). Once it's thicker than 7mm it's lost its' wow factor and it's then just another phone. Plus, I think the P6S is only a tiny upgrade from 1.5 to 1.6Ghz and looks like it will still be quad-core and not octa-core. Same screen etc. but with EMUI 2.0. However I would imagine EMUI 2.0 will also come to the P6......
For £199 the P6 is an absolute bargain. Updates are coming regularly and KitKat is reportedly coming to it in January (6 weeks...!). Buy one and if you're not happy with it you can take it back (buy it in-store though, they have a different returns policy for internet sales..!)

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Mine doesn't overheat either. I mean, it gets warm when I'm using it a lot, but I guess that comes with having such a slim phone with an aluminium back which acts like a heatsink.
Looking at the P6S i think it's going to be thicker than the P6. Even just 1mm thicker defeats the whole point of having the phone (for me anyway). Once it's thicker than 7mm it's lost its' wow factor and it's then just another phone. Plus, I think the P6S is only a tiny upgrade from 1.5 to 1.6Ghz and looks like it will still be quad-core and not octa-core. Same screen etc. but with EMUI 2.0. However I would imagine EMUI 2.0 will also come to the P6......
For £199 the P6 is an absolute bargain. Updates are coming regularly and KitKat is reportedly coming to it in January (6 weeks...!). Buy one and if you're not happy with it you can take it back (buy it in-store though, they have a different returns policy for internet sales..!)
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Hoping to get it for christmas from my dad
thanks for the info

JackHanAnLG said:
If you're like me and wanting this phone, you'll be pleased to hear that the phone is now only £199.95
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_ASCEND_P6/HANDSET
I do want this phone, because of the build quality and how slim it is, that is literally the only reason, but reviews seem so bad now, the performance is terrible and it over heats so bad
Maybe its worth waiting for the P6S ? But how much more will that be?
Jack
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JackHanAnLG said:
If you're like me and wanting this phone, you'll be pleased to hear that the phone is now only £199.95
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_ASCEND_P6/HANDSET
I do want this phone, because of the build quality and how slim it is, that is literally the only reason, but reviews seem so bad now, the performance is terrible and it over heats so bad
Maybe its worth waiting for the P6S ? But how much more will that be?
Jack
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I got mine in august from carphone warehouse for £240 and it was a bargain then. Now its down to under £200, it's a even better deal! Brilliant pricing.
As for what you've mentioned above with bad reviews and performance. I have to disagree. I'm now running the 122 firmware and it's a massive difference compared to what I had the first few months with just the stock UK release out of the box.
Only overheat I ever had was when I originally got the phone and was testing the GPS. If you have the screen on constant I can see why it would overheat, but never an issue for me.
As for performance there are a few things I don't like, but they are mainly with the software/apps, so just replaced them with others from the play store. Getting about the phone and doing day to day things it is very slick and responsive. My wife has the S3 and its much better than the performance on that. She's actually wanting to get one now after playing about with my P6.
I never play games, but have it syncing emails all day, use the phone a lot, same with texting. Bluetooth is on at least 2 hours a day connected to my car audio, and I use wifi maybe for half an hour a day. I get 3 days out a fully charged battery. That combined with the slimmness of the phone is the winner for me.
Roll on january and kitkat :highfive:

markgranto said:
I got mine in august from carphone warehouse for £240 and it was a bargain then. Now its down to under £200, it's a even better deal! Brilliant pricing.
As for what you've mentioned above with bad reviews and performance. I have to disagree. I'm now running the 122 firmware and it's a massive difference compared to what I had the first few months with just the stock UK release out of the box.
Only overheat I ever had was when I originally got the phone and was testing the GPS. If you have the screen on constant I can see why it would overheat, but never an issue for me.
As for performance there are a few things I don't like, but they are mainly with the software/apps, so just replaced them with others from the play store. Getting about the phone and doing day to day things it is very slick and responsive. My wife has the S3 and its much better than the performance on that. She's actually wanting to get one now after playing about with my P6.
I never play games, but have it syncing emails all day, use the phone a lot, same with texting. Bluetooth is on at least 2 hours a day connected to my car audio, and I use wifi maybe for half an hour a day. I get 3 days out a fully charged battery. That combined with the slimmness of the phone is the winner for me.
Roll on january and kitkat :highfive:
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I was going to get one for christmas but the deals always last like 3 days before they go back up in price, i firgure im going to get a Xperia Z ultra, bigger, better screen better processor and its BIG! and 4g... and its only £50 more

JackHanAnLG said:
I was going to get one for christmas but the deals always last like 3 days before they go back up in price, i firgure im going to get a Xperia Z ultra, bigger, better screen better processor and its BIG! and 4g... and its only £50 more
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not sure where your looking but the sony z ultra is not anywhere near £250. not even close.

Carphonewharehouse are now selling it at £309.95 again
£50 more for the 3g Z Ultra

JackHanAnLG said:
Carphonewharehouse are now selling it at £309.95 again
£50 more for the 3g Z Ultra
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Yeah just seen it's went up again!!!
I cant find the link for the Z ultra on the CW site, can you still see it?

markgranto said:
Yeah just seen it's went up again!!!
I cant find the link for the Z ultra on the CW site, can you still see it?
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Thats because its not on there
Im getting it from one of those ebay shops, ive never had a problem with ebay so it should be all good

JackHanAnLG said:
Thats because its not on there
Im getting it from one of those ebay shops, ive never had a problem with ebay so it should be all good
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ok, well good luck with that.

markgranto said:
ok, well good luck with that.
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Thanks! m

From the region i brought my P6, the price has been officially reduced by 50$ for some kind of a December promo.

Change Xperia S

Hi, i write this thread to tell us what I have done. Last week I sold my girlfriends Xperia S in ebay for 150 euros and I bought a 16GB Moto G for 199.
Now she is very happy, better screen, better battery duration, no lags, android 4.4.2, etc.
The camera is 5 Mpx but it´s very good, and do the photos at night without any flash problem like the xperia S.
Do what you want...this is only my experience...

jlmcr87 said:
Hi, i write this thread to tell us what I have done. Last week I sold my girlfriends Xperia S in ebay for 150 euros and I bought a 16GB Moto G for 199.
Now she is very happy, better screen, better battery duration, no lags, android 4.4.2, etc.
The camera is 5 Mpx but it´s very good, and do the photos at night without any flash problem like the xperia S.
Do what you want...this is only my experience...
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The fact that you are comparing an early 2012 device with a current more economical flagship shows your flawed way of thinking.
Secondly, I haven't had any cases of lag or bad battery whatsoever, and with a little tweaking my Xperia has battery life comparable to current flagships.
Give a person a phone and he'll be happy for a year; teach a person to root he won't need a new phone ever again.

entermetallica said:
Give a person a phone and he'll be happy for a year; teach a person to root he won't need a phone ever again.
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Rooted my phone and threw it away, cause I don't need it ever again, thanks

yUlekk said:
Rooted my phone and threw it away, cause I don't need it ever again, thanks
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Well that escaled quickly. Lol!
On a sidenote, this is a pointless thread and only lead to a flame war.
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entermetallica said:
The fact that you are comparing an early 2012 device with a current more economical flagship shows your flawed way of thinking.
Secondly, I haven't had any cases of lag or bad battery whatsoever, and with a little tweaking my Xperia has battery life comparable to current flagships.
Give a person a phone and he'll be happy for a year; teach a person to root he won't need a new phone ever again.
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Wat tweaks r yu using PLZ can yu tell me
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jlmcr87 said:
Hi, i write this thread to tell us what I have done. Last week I sold my girlfriends Xperia S in ebay for 150 euros and I bought a 16GB Moto G for 199.
Now she is very happy, better screen, better battery duration, no lags, android 4.4.2, etc.
The camera is 5 Mpx but it´s very good, and do the photos at night without any flash problem like the xperia S.
Do what you want...this is only my experience...
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I am glad she like it.
However this is a development forum
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