Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
Brother has a Evo on 2.3.3 and receiving the install error with space on the phone. I figure just wipe it but not sure if the apps will be restored if I did. Can anyone verify if it does?
Unless you have selected the option to backup apps in the settings menu, then no, they will not restore. Thats the whole point of a reset, it wipes everything clean.
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Unless you have selected the option to backup apps in the settings menu, then no, they will not restore. Thats the whole point of a reset, it wipes everything clean.
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download titanium backup or mybackup pro(root), there is a version for non rooted phones as well and backup your apps.. restore when you get everything back up and running.
My suggestion is that you may want to restore all apps from market just incase one of your apps was causing the issue. Go to market.android.com and you can see all your apps in the upper right under I believe my market apps and will be able to click on each one and restore from there...
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Brother has a Evo on 2.3.3 and receiving the install error with space on the phone. I figure just wipe it but not sure if the apps will be restored if I did. Can anyone verify if it does?
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Try clearing cache to all his apps to free up space and maybe data to once he doesn't need it on.
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Hey guys, I need your help. Will the phone reset to defaults if I flashed an ftf to my phone? I was just making sure because I don't want to lose all the save files on my games. I can't root it yet (because it is in 4.0.1.a.0.62, that's why I need to flash it with .42) so I can't use titanium backup. Please help.
If it will delete all the data on the phone or there aren't any available methods to avoid it, well aren't there any apps for backing up my games that will include the data with the app? Thanks
tajhai said:
Hey guys, I need your help. Will the phone reset to defaults if I flashed an ftf to my phone? I was just making sure because I don't want to lose all the save files on my games. I can't root it yet (because it is in 4.0.1.a.0.62, that's why I need to flash it with .42) so I can't use titanium backup. Please help.
If it will delete all the data on the phone or there aren't any available methods to avoid it, well aren't there any apps for backing up my games that will include the data with the app? Thanks
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Yes flashing a FTF file will wipe your phone to factory settings, the only data that will remain is whatever you have on your SD card.
As for rooting I'd try superoneclick, just in case, it might work. If not I think your best bet would be downloading Androzip from the store, navigating to the backup tag and back up your apps NOTE: I DON"T THINK THIS WILL BACK UP YOUR APP DATA SO BE WARNED.
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
tajhai said:
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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I think .62 is now rootable will search the forums and let you know
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Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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found http://forgottencoders.co.uk/thread-27.html but am confused if .62 is rootable or not
creative_md said:
found http://forgottencoders.co.uk/thread-27.html but am confused if .62 is rootable or not
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I think the title is misleading? It is just the same way how I root my phone but still it is stuck on step 7. I guess there's no other way except from downgrading it to .42 or .58. I was trying to flash the .42 ftf on fastboot a while ago, and there are checkboxes that says clear cache, clear data and clear user data, but ticking those boxes didn't help at all. I have no choice but to wipe all my progress. Thanks anyway.
tajhai said:
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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Only ay to backup an app and it's data is titanium backup and or a nandroid backup
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I flashed the Eclipse 2.1 ToroPlus ROM last night coming from a stock AOSP 4.2....did the usual Titanium Backup before the flash.
Did the factory reset 3 times as well as format system 3 times like I do EVERY time I change ROMs (using latest TWRP)...
However once I booted this ROM everything (folders) was gone...like when you revert to factory with ODIN...just the basic files were in my root...
I never had this happen before...
the problem with this is I was using "Safe Notes" to keep ALOT of Admin info/passwords for numerous websites I do the upkeep on, as well as some bank info, money owed to me by others, etc....
Now, I DO have a bunch of CWM nandroids from previous backups...is there any way to go into one of these nandroids and extract the files for "Safe Notes" from a Titanium Backup "backup zip" to slip into the directory for the app?
I've done it before with a SafeNotes backup I made but that's long gone now...
I have backups of all the WidgetLocker, UCCW, music, etc. but I NEED NEED NEED to get the Safe Notes info back...
Like I said I've never had this happen before except for when I intentionally wipe everything via ODIN when returning to factory condition...I wasn't expecting it...
Also, what could cause this problem??
Was it because I came from 4.2 back to 4.1.2??
When I booted up after installing the new ROM I went to re-install my apps through Titanium Backup but they weren't there...perhaps that had something to do with the gapps package?
I thought that might be the case so I installed the 4.2 gapps package and still nothing in TB....
perhaps install CWM and restore one of the latest nandroids to recover the Safe Notes file/info?
if I could extract it from a ZIP from inside one of the TB/nandroid backups that would be sweet...but if restoring a nandroid is the ONLY option I guess I'll have to do that...
I *REALLY* need the info on that Safe Notes file...hope someone can help...
This is a great question, I lost my notes somehow with TWRP trying to upgrade to BAKED blackbean 7 on my Galaxy S3. Have you found a solution yet?
Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...
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Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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StevePSK said:
Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...
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If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.
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If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.
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I have both, but when I try to restore data for the app, SafeNotes then has what appears to be an empty data. I'm not sure if the database was stored somewhere else. I made a nandroid but lost my SafeNotes data after ODIN. I have tried to look around (mostly in the data folder) for a file I can use with SafeNotes' restore database option, but nothing seems to work :/.
Hello
im using TWRP 3.6 on Miui eu can i backup everything with twrp ?
because its says not all users decrypted
Hello.
TWRP is not the best option to backup user data now. I advice you to use other methods.
I personally use Swift Backup. It backs up all my apps along with their data. It's a really good one.
But I do hope you find a way to backup ur stuff using twrp. Still, I highly advice you to confirm that it does recover your backup. You don't wanna backup all ur stuff thinking they're recoverable then happens they aren't.
+1 for Swift Backup, great app
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+1 for Swift Backup, great app
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does it backup data of games
Natsu! said:
does it backup data of games
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Yes. WiFi passwords, logs, app data etc etc. You need to be rooted for app data though. Some apps like banking apps will need to be signed in again, but it copies most app data over. Just run a full backup with all apps, copy to pc, flash rom, copy back and install swift backup again. I just backup the whole swiftbackup folder