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Did the TB kill the devepoment for our Dinc?

Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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donnyp1 said:
Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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got to agree. does seem a bit quiet. i am keeping both (well, the inc goes to the daughter but i will keep tweaking it for her) so i want the devs to keep working on the inc.

It's probably temporary, the Inc community will last for a while.
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Recently (as in a few days ago) coming from an Eris, which was 'end-of-life' in the middle of last year, and then received Gingerbread almost instantaneously after it was released to the public thanks to our fine devs here at XDA, I highly doubt the DInc will die out any time soon. This phone has way too much potential.

I expert it do die down in time, but the CM machine will keep chugging. Honestly, so long as Cyanogen has a DInc ROM, I'll be content. I use launcher pro, and prefer stock android over anything else, so not having new versions of sense isn't a big deal to me. Sometimes I like to jump on the MIUI train, but I always end up back with Cyanogen. They always support their phones so well, I imagine development for cm will continue long past the DInc's shelf-life.

I think even if it does dwindle, it will only be minor. As long as we have CM and a good maintaner we should always have something new and better to throw on our phones. The only thing is I've always wanted to see AOSP roms with tv-out but I see very little future in anyone dev that now that interest in it has died down.

I have been tryin z roms lately with very good success, and their cameras are the bomb. Aosp is nice an smooth, but i like the option to switch atound alot, plus cm camera just isnt that good. Im runnin miui gb now, with zero issues, kinda shox me for a first release just how good this rom is. I would love to see gb sense though just to have it.
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Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
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nerogold said:
Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
Not gonna lie, that phone looked sharp.
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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.

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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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That rom has been leaked, figure it would have been ported by now.
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I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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Smabbage said:
The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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I just don't see the rom being much better granted the new Sense might be cool to look at.
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I may be completely wrong in saying this but i think the tb is actually going to increase the amount of dev on the dinc. When you look at the evo and dinc there are roms that run on both. From what ive heard of the tb its basically a evo just a lil bit better. So as soon as a good way is made for easy transfer of rom from tb to dinc or to evo we will have more options on the dinc. Plus as soon as the problems are sorted out of how to get tb roms and code to run on the dinc we will be getting more updates to stock releases.

ProTekk said:
I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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Good to know you have our back.

I had an Iphone 4, didn't like iOS so I decided to go check out the thunderbolt, I was less than impressed. No 4g around me, and I didn't want to pay $100 on top of giving my iphone 4 back. So I picked up an incredible, and couldn't be happier. Its such a solid phone. Perfect size.

I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.

I Am Marino said:
I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.
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Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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Makes sense, I watch the EVO forums still rock, Nexus One forums will always be rocking, and with the Inc being such a close relative, just surprised activity has fallen off a little.

Yeah, im just hopin tgings start pickin up soon. There are alot of roms that could be ported, but nothing as of lately.
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[Q] Am I alone in wanting....

see someone here try to port Touchwiz to an Incredible 2?
I know there are CM7 Skins.... but I don't want AOSP.

This should probably not be in development.
And to answer your question, yes, yes you most likely are.

The only desirable thing touchwiz has for me is the music control in notification area and omfgb has that so I'm good lol. Love to see em in the sense roms tho
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You are very much alone.

Wrong forum but I agree. I think Touchwiz 4.0 is beautiful.

I kinda like touchwiz, I just like sense a lot better
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touchwiz 4 *theme* might be nice sure...the entire skin itself...ugh

Yes. Yes you are.

I wouldn't use it just because its called touchwiz. Sounds like a child molester at Hogwarts.

I would absolutely love touchwiz on here id use it daily
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TouchWiz is one of the reasons I don't use my Droid Charge...

You may in fact be alone here.. I had a Samsung Fascinate and if it wasn't for the development community I would have been completely turned off from the Droid system.. I thanked the Droid God's when my Fascinate crapped itself and I was able to get a DINC2 for a replacement.. Almost made me switch to an iPhone.. Sends chills down my spine.. $0.02 !!

its probably never gonna happen touchwiz is heavily tied into the framework much like sense is. while a few Samsung phones have a sense port they are far from fully functional. I imagine it would be the same the other way around. not saying it can't be done but I believe it would be much more trouble than its worth
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Yep the fascinate almost drove me to an ifone too. Thankfully it had some good developers. And thankfully the inc2 showed me how awesome android was again...good riddance to anything made by Samsung.
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stelv said:
Yep the fascinate almost drove me to an ifone too. Thankfully it had some good developers. And thankfully the inc2 showed me how awesome android was again...good riddance to anything made by Samsung.
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+1 the captivate turned me off of Samsung. HTC ftw
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I fell in love with HTC with the Eris, loved my inc1, and loving my inc2. I can only hope that HTC produces a phone in the future smaller than 4.3' screen.. Just too big for me. I'd personally like a 3.8' screen. But what can ya do. They seem to actually be getting bigger. 4.65' for a phone is just crazy to me.

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Well considering the fact that the new Galaxy S2 has neon support it actually might be possible. It would have to be a full RUU type of ROM because the framework would have to be totally changed. Id say its possible though.

Fasinationinmotion said:
Well considering the fact that the new Galaxy S2 has neon support it actually might be possible. It would have to be a full RUU type of ROM because the framework would have to be totally changed. Id say its possible though.
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Not sure what kind of dev would want to downgrade their phone though...

Zax_Was_Here said:
Not sure what kind of dev would want to downgrade their phone though...
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Its not really downgrading your phone its just a different UI. And technically Touchwiz is probably faster considering it doesnt have near the bloat and is a lot closer to AOSP than Sense is.

Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

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Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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[Q] Question: Ice Cream Sandwich And Evo (time frame question)

With ICS being released early next week (hopefully anyways.) I was just wondering if ICS is ported to our wonderful Evos, how long might the port take....roughly???? Would we be talking days, weeks, or months.. Thanks for any replies. I'm just anxiously awaiting this new OS

I'm thinking cm will have it in less then a month
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702

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I'm thinking cm will have it in less then a month
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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I believe it, and I'll be all over that.

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I believe it, and I'll be all over that.
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I got $10 on lithid or evervolv first.
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It will take over a month. It took 3 months to get Gingerbread mostly working on the evo.

2.3 sdk was released December 6 and evervolv was running 2.3 on December 18.
Too bad preludedrew bought an evo 3d.
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Well a fully functioning one will take about 2 months but as a first I say a week very unstable though
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ICS to EVO? another reason to hold off on buying a new phone. Going to ride this EVO wave as much as I can. Until my 2yr contracts ends in April anyways. lol

Zameus said:
ICS to EVO? another reason to hold off on buying a new phone. Going to ride this EVO wave as much as I can. Until my 2yr contracts ends in April anyways. lol
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I plan on riding mine even longer than that... Once this thing either bricks or just plain quits, then I'll get something...hopefully with ICS already on it.
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Someone already ported it for the Nexus S. So It may be faster than we think

I just want to lower everyone's expectations. SDK ports are pretty much useless. They are fun to play with to get to know (roughly) what to expect, but they are mostly non-functional. I say this having experienced an SDK based honeycomb port on the nook color (I even waited for maturation of that port a few months after the first release). It was horrible. If you are asking for a time frame as to when you will have a daily driver ICS port, I would say your answer is probably a month or so after Google releases the source code. If I remember correctly they usually release it about 3 months after the it goes public (I believe they are required to per the GPL). So you are probably looking at a 2/12 time frame.

How can your 2 year contract expire 2 months before the EVO came out???
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ICS to EVO? another reason to hold off on buying a new phone. Going to ride this EVO wave as much as I can. Until my 2yr contracts ends in April anyways. lol
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eggsack said:
How can your 2 year contract expire 2 months before the EVO came out???
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You're right but when sprint got rid of the rewards, it said that gold members get an upgrade every 20 months. I'm pretty sure
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Bump for interest.
I've been looking at the highlights for ICS and it just makes me even more impatient.
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My friend is running an sdk port of ICS on his Nexus S. It's pretty amazing. Runs just as well as any other roms so far. Makes me really confused to see people saying sdk ports don't work, as he has encountered no bugs so far.

Hakizi said:
My friend is running an sdk port of ICS on his Nexus S. It's pretty amazing. Runs just as well as any other roms so far. Makes me really confused to see people saying sdk ports don't work, as he has encountered no bugs so far.
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I think it really depends on the phone you're trying to port the sdk on. If porting an sdk has as many different ways of doing it as rooting, Samsung phones would just wind up causing headaches for most. Rooting my wife's phone took me about a week of research and trial and error before I was finally successful. My EVO, on the other hand, was rooted, had flashed a custom recovery, and then finally a custom ROM, all done in about an hour-ish.
Back on topic, though, if anybody knows of anything ICS that is available for EVO, please link me to it so I can satisfy my craving for ice cream. Thanks in advance!
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Well on 17 November, the galaxy nexus will be released in europe; the US date is still unconfirmed. So you can expect it to be in the mid november-december time frame.

Can I have my jellybeans and eat them too?!

First off, I would just like to thank all the devs who have worked like mad men on giving all us dinc users some delicious Ice Cream Sandwich, for without your amazing work I surely would have thrown my phone in a fit of rage into a wall a loooong time ago. Now, even though there's no official word yet, until later this morning , I think it's safe to assume that Jellybean will end up being named Android OS 4.1 instead of 5.0 (ICS, but with improvements). With all of this in mind, is it possible that we could actually get some JB love? I understand that we'll have to wait until they release the source code to know for sure, but with what we've heard so far it sounds like it actually could be possible. Idk, am I just missing something obvious here?
P.S. I'm asking this mostly because I'm trying to get my posts # up (I'm new here, be nice), although I'd love if we could entertain this thought for a moment. I think I only have like 2 posts so far (cuz I ACTUALLY search for stuff, WOW!!!!) so bear with me, please and thank you!

I'm planning on making android 4.1 available on this phone.
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Huzzah! Can't wait
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Just ordered my Nexus 7 so if nothing else, I'll still have my fill of jellybeans

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I'm planning on making android 4.1 available on this phone.
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This is great news! I heard about google announcing JB today so I am very excited about ROMs making it to the OG incredible, I still have it for another year almost haha

nschiwy said:
This is great news! I heard about google announcing JB today so I am very excited about ROMs making it to the OG incredible, I still have it for another year almost haha
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Ya it is! I have a year left as well so I definitely want jb.
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rickyg946 said:
Just ordered my Nexus 7 so if nothing else, I'll still have my fill of jellybeans
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Me too!

If all goes according to plan I'll be using a GSIII and eventually Jelly Bean. I gotta admit, I liked the polish and new features of JB announced today.

Guys I am currently porting jellybean to this device.
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Guys I am currently porting jellybean to this device.
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How? It hasn't even been released to AOSP yet.

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How? It hasn't even been released to AOSP yet.
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By using the system dump. We got it to the boot animation.

^ Exactly!
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Wow, you guys are relentless, haha!
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My only concern is battery life, its unfortunate ICS loves to eat our battery like the cookie monsta.
I know for a fact we can get it running, why?
Because of the determination our lasting devs have. I mean I never thought I'd see sense 4 on the DInc, even ICS.. working completely fine now.
It's amazing and we thank all who do this in the DInc projects.
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This is truly the phone that will never die. Huge thanks to all the devs who work to keep this phone running the latest and greatest! I'll still be on this phone for another month (preordered my SIII) and I bet I'll have stable JellyBean before the end of it. Simply amazing. You guys rock!

Albinoman and PureMotive <- Porting Gurus! Thank you for all the work you've done for the Incredible. Keep up the good work!
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This is great news.
However, seeing as ICS already pushes our poor little GPU to its limits, how will Project Butter and all the triple buffering and good business affect us?

liuzerus87 said:
This is great news.
However, seeing as ICS already pushes our poor little GPU to its limits, how will Project Butter and all the triple buffering and good business affect us?
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From what ive seen ics doesn't really push our GPU or CPU that hard. I think our phones should run it great.

Man, this is really awesome! I'd love to get this thing on my Incredible, and would love to help on getting his working! I'm just done my freshman year as a computer science major, and I'm pretty amateur, but maybe I'll dig in wherever I can :-D

Wow. I am so glad I picked the Incredible way back in the day.