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Many of you are aware of a thread in the Focus S section of this forum about someone with their Focus S getting VVM to work. However, it wasn't the most helpful thread to replicating it. I have since replicated this on a different device (the Focus Flash), so I wanted to post something here to let more people know.
Thanks to davezaff for the idea.
Here is how I did it on my Focus Flash. You will probably need a way to edit the APNs.
1. Update to 7740
2. Update to 8107
3. Insert sim card into an AT&T Android LTE phone (I used skyrocket)
4. Go to att.com and switch plan to Data Pro 4g LTE plan. I had to call to switch since it wasn't working on the website.
5. Setup VVM on Android LTE phone (don't know if this is necessary, but this is what I did....make sure friend knows the VM password so they can re-add it when they put their sim card back in.
6.Insert sim card back into Windows Phone
7. Call Voicemail
8. Wait for VVM to show up on phone (mine showed up after calling voicemail).
9. If sync error, edit the APN as follows
APN settings (delete the internet_line APN)
Create a new APN
APN Name: pta
Profile Category: internet (always on)
APN: pta
Auth type: None
Username:
Password:
Proxy address: proxy.mobile.att.net
Proxy domain:
Proxy port: 80
I now have working VVM on AT&T with my Samsung Focus Flash. My internet tethering still works (applied the Interop unlock + tethering hack from XDA). I have not tested MMS since I did this, but the MMS APN was untouched.
So they have tied vvm with their stupid data plans, how nice. So I can pay $20 for 300mb + vvm or I can pay $10 for unlimited data and traditional vm... ATT is so dumb.
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This is not development, its more of a guide. Please post such threads in the WP7 General section
For the normal person, it is pay $30 for 3GB of data with traditional VM or pay $30 for 3GB with VVM. The only difference is one plan has the word LTE at the end.
how can one even get the 8107 update on the samsung focus s? i tried the old force update method (disconnecting the internet connection) with zune, and that hasn't worked...
simbadogg said:
how can one even get the 8107 update on the samsung focus s? i tried the old force update method (disconnecting the internet connection) with zune, and that hasn't worked...
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This is the process I used:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012/01/06/windows-phone-7-build-7-10-8107-79-roll-out-started-get-it-now-and-update-manually/
Any idea if this works with the ATT Titan?
mmian said:
Any idea if this works with the ATT Titan?
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Yes, and just download the English only language pack.
i already updated to 8107, but im asking if the vvm works for the titan, i also don't know anyone with an LTE android phone
Does this work if you don't setup VVM on the android device first? I was thinking of just calling AT&T and asking to be switched to the 4G plan.
Get it working without an LTE device
OK, I got this to work on my Lumia 800. Furthermore, I didn't have an LTE device.
What I did have however, is an AT&T store that caters extensively to my place of work (a software company). They are really nice, understand unusual requests, and try everything to help.
I did the following:
1. Upgrade the OS as per the original post.
2. Call the nice AT&T store that I mentioned above. Asked them to put me on an LTE plan. (I was already on an enterprise plan, so I was moved to the same enterprise plan but the LTE version. Cost of my plan remained unchanged).
I explained that I was doing some app development, and planned to be swapping phones from time to time, some of which are LTE phones. (I also have a microsim adapter, so moving between phones that take microsim and regular sim is not an issue for me).
They asked if I'd like VVM provisioning. I said yes.
They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
3. In the APN settings, I changed my APN to pta. I did NONE of the other settings mentioned (proxy, proxy port, and everything else are BLANK).
Now I have Visual Voicemail on my Lumia 800!
Hmm so why is vvm only available to LTE phones/network I want to get this.
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Hmm so why is vvm only available to LTE phones/network I want to get this.
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...because AT&T wants to sell LTE devices.
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They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
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I wonder if this blank IMEI is a special IMEI that at&t has to test LTE devices on accounts or something. I wonder if this IMEI would also work on other accounts as well. Hmmm.
I don't suppose that IMEI is something you could share possibly? I mean if its not a real phone, and can work on multiple accounts, it would be very nice to (selectively) share it so that some of us can get VVM.
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I wonder if this blank IMEI is a special IMEI that at&t has to test LTE devices on accounts or something. I wonder if this IMEI would also work on other accounts as well. Hmmm.
I don't suppose that IMEI is something you could share possibly? I mean if its not a real phone, and can work on multiple accounts, it would be very nice to (selectively) share it so that some of us can get VVM.
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I agree, since I just called asking for essentially this setup and they deniened any special IMEI.
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OK, I got this to work on my Lumia 800. Furthermore, I didn't have an LTE device.
They asked if I'd like VVM provisioning. I said yes.
They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
3. In the APN settings, I changed my APN to pta. I did NONE of the other settings mentioned (proxy, proxy port, and everything else are BLANK).
Now I have Visual Voicemail on my Lumia 800!
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So i also have an 800 and asked them to provision me for HSPA+ recently, so they switched my data plan to one that was supposed to be able to access it (i have no idea if it really can - that's a whole different can of worms). What did they switch your plan to? If you look online and hit "recent usage", you can see under "Additional Data Purchased Usage" your data lines with the plan code. My code is "HSSMTD4O" Just wanted to see if i could skip the "call att" step.
Thought I would share my experience also..
I was able to get VVM working on my Focus Flash. Luckily I have a friend that works at the ATT store. He just took a Samsung Note scanned the IMEI and added that as my phone. Then he enabled LTE and VVM. I rebooted phone and went in the the phone tile, and VVM prompted me for password. I put in password and all has been good.
The easiest way would probably be to borrow a friends VVM supported phone and put your sim in it, then have them add VVM to your account.
I did not have to add any APN's or make any changes to the phone.
Getting it working without a LTE device and without AT&T in your pocket
So, I decided to try and get VVM setup on my Focus S today, but I have no friends with AT&T and the local store was unwilling to help in the fashion outlined above.
So what to do? Well the main thing you need for this is the IMEI number from an Android LTE phone. So I asked a couple friends that don't live close by, and none of them had a LTE phone.
So I searched the internet for those "Get unlock Codes" websites, specifically for tutorials on LTE phones, and some of them show the IMEI number.
So I went into chat support and told them I needed a LTE plan with visual voicemail, and they asked for the IMEI number, I gave it to them, and then 2 minutes later VVM is now provisioned and working properly.
Yeah so I ended up adding the IMEI of a random Galaxy Note that I do not own. It was dead simple to do it online through tech support chat. After that, just called up voicemail, waiting a second or two, hung up, and then my phone prompted me for my voicemail password and automatically enabled visual voicemail. I realize that AT&T's system does not check for duplicate IMEIs across the network, so you can throw the same IMEI onto any number of phones and AT&T wouldn't know a thing (until they start looking of course).
I did have to change my APN to "pta" to get it to sync properly, but after that it was all smooth sailing.
Now I've got Visual Voicemail on my Titan and Lumia.
I am glad some of you were able to get it to work. The big issue I had before starting this thread was getting the APN settings. After getting VVM enabled, it couldnt connect until I messed with the APN. Glad I was able to help y'all!
Guys,
Unlocked and rooted One X on AT&T and my pegged out signal keeps changing from H to 3G over and over and over.... you get the picture. Never stays on one very long before changing and will disrupt data services for a brief moment while it does.
Is anyone else seeing this behavior and if so, any fix to resolve?
SG
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Guys,
Unlocked and rooted One X on AT&T and my pegged out signal keeps changing from H to 3G over and over and over.... you get the picture. Never stays on one very long before changing and will disrupt data services for a brief moment while it does.
Is anyone else seeing this behavior and if so, any fix to resolve?
SG
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Yea I notice it. I believe it's part of the way it saves power but idk if thats true because on my Galaxy Nexus, it would almost always stay on "H".
Mine doesn't really switch out of "H" though when actually loading something, just takes a bit to go from "3G" to "H". I've maybe experienced it once or twice when actually loading something where it would switch out of "H" to "3G" while loading something on XDA or a website. But it's usually when connection is weak.
I'm having the same issue.
if it keeps happening, then complain to ATT and ask for credit on your data plan because it doesn't work the way it should.
From what I read, AT&T phones show only h, even though in the background they switch back and forth.
But when you use international phones on the network, it will show the switching around. I'm not sure if that's related to your issue, but over here on rogers, my phone switches between 3g and h constantly, even when I'm at one location.. The thing is that I don't get long disruptions though, if any at all.
I'm on att and don't experience this. My icon switches frequently but I don't see any interruption in service.
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Thanks all, just wanted to make sure that I was the only one experiencing. I will probably go into the AT&T store and see if their One XL display units is doing the same thing while I have mine with me.
Could be that "international" issue type of thing... who knows.
Yes, mine does this too. Im on straight talk which uses at&t and it frequently keeps switching back and forth.
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Mine should be in on Tuesday. Think we might have the wrong APN's??
Have you checked the APN settings?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
Moving from 2/3G to HSPA+ is by design and called fast dormancy. Here's more than you could ever possibly want to know about it.
http://www.slideshare.net/zahidtg/gsma-fast-dormancy-best-practices
It saves battery life and when working properly it's undetectable. That is when FD is active on a device and the network it's using supports it. (AT&T does). If OP's dropping signal something's wrong. I'd check...
- The APN's you use on AT&T must match the plan that's provisioned in your account settings. If you're on a 3G plan (grandfathered unlimited, MediaNet, data for non-Smartphones) use the 3G (Cingular) settings. If you're on a 4G (non-LTE) plan use the 4G (HSPA+) APN. Wrong APN means funky data even if it seems fine sometimes.
- Older SIMs or SIMs from iPhone's in non-Apple devices have caused problems. As has bad surgery in the move to micro. Pop in to an AT&T store and get a new micro SIM matched to the provisioning of your account.
- Bad phone h/w. In not the above it could be the device.
I've just been across the country on the AT&T network and my phone has performed better than my i9100 in picking up and maintaining a signal (I'm on a 3G plan). It's been impressive actually especially in moving from HSPA to Wi-Fi and back. So with the right settings the phone itself should be fine.
vinuneuro said:
Have you checked the APN settings?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Just tried that and it's not working for me. Doubled checked, everything is exactly as he said. I just don't have the option to switch from what it currently is (MediaNet). There's no radio button for the other two. Even after deleting the original (only leaving the two I just made) and restarting, I have no connection to the network.
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Just tried that and it's not working for me. Doubled checked, everything is exactly as he said. I just don't have the option to switch from what it currently is (MediaNet). There's no radio button for the other two. Even after deleting the original (only leaving the two I just made) and restarting, I have no connection to the network.
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I agree, the settings aren't working for me either in Orange County, CA
After you set up the new APN's try deleting the old one. You can always get it back by selecting "restore to default."
BarryH_GEG said:
After you set up the new APN's try deleting the old one. You can always get it back by selecting "restore to default."
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has it worked for you?
meihcydna said:
has it worked for you?
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I had an unactivated micro SIM that I had my corporate account rep activate so my situation's different than yours; the SIM is tied exactly to the settings in my account. I popped it in, it picked up the MediaNet settings, and all was good.
My phone has a single APN so I can't see the way the settings look when there are multiples. The last setting in the active APN is "APN enable/disable" which is greyed out on my because there's no other choice. Did you try disabling it after you got the new APN's entered? Maybe if you do it'll allow you to select the new APN's you created.
BarryH_GEG said:
I had an unactivated micro SIM that I had my corporate account rep activate so my situation's different than yours; the SIM is tied exactly to the settings in my account. I popped it in, it picked up the MediaNet settings, and all was good.
My phone has a single APN so I can't see the way the settings look when there are multiples. The last setting in the active APN is "APN enable/disable" which is greyed out on my because there's no other choice. Did you try disabling it after you got the new APN's entered? Maybe if you do it'll allow you to select the new APN's you created.
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My "APN enable/disable" is greyed out as well. I tried the new APNs in the other thread and couldn't get a internet connection. The only successful APN with the One X was the medianet. Other than that, I'll settle for the medianet but only wanted to change it to get better speeds in my area since this phone is capable of receiving up to 21mbps.
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this phone is capable of receiving up to 21mbps.
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The highest I've seen on either an international phone or an AT&T 21MB-capable phone is 8MBish down. That's in TX where there's lots of bandwidth shared by not a lot of people. In markets like LAX, NYC, and SFO you're lucky to break 5MB because of the congestion. I've seen 2MB and under in Manhatten. HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are very much YMMV.
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The highest I've seen on either an international phone or an AT&T 21MB-capable phone is 8MBish down. That's in TX where there's lots of bandwidth shared by not a lot of people. In markets like LAX, NYC, and SFO you're lucky to break 5MB because of the congestion. I've seen 2MB and under in Manhatten. HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are very much YMMV.
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I agree but just thought I could push a bit more since I'm only hitting 6mbps. Thanks for the info though!
Just whats on my phone
Ok so I was looking at my piece of craptivate and its APN settings. Mine are quite different from what you guys are saying. Should I change this if I try to cut down my current sim?? Here are settings on current sim.
Name cingular 410
Apn wap.cingular
proxy not set
Port Not set
Username [email protected]
Password ******** (does this mean it has a password??)
Server cingualrgprs.com
MMSC mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Port Not set
MCC 310
MNC 410
Authentication type not set
APN type default,supl,mms
Apn Protcol ipv4
I have just started a T-Mobile contract in the UK on the Full Monty plan that gives unlimited data and includes tethering.
The handset used is unbranded and unlocked but I couldnt tether with it for some reason, either via wifi hotspot or USB Tether. The internet on the handset worked fine.
I couldnt call 150 customer service as that dept shut at 10pm so had a play with the apn's.
The three APN's set up as default are all locked and uneditable so my plan was to edit the broadband one in someway.
So, I copied all the settings, set up the APN's as another network, deleted them and added the three default APN's manually.
Once I did this, tethering started to work, with no actual change to any of the settings.
Just a heads up if anyone else comes across this and a fix that worked for me.
Steve
Yep rename apn to consumer broadband, people with many HTC s will known this, glad you figured it out
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So, I copied all the settings, set up the APN's as another network, deleted them and added the three default APN's manually.
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Many thanks for this post. Would you mind expanding / elaborating on the above steps at all? Not sure how to do this. Have tried creating new APNs with the same settings with no luck. Any pointers much appreciated, thanks.
Roosell said:
Many thanks for this post. Would you mind expanding / elaborating on the above steps at all? Not sure how to do this. Have tried creating new APNs with the same settings with no luck. Any pointers much appreciated, thanks.
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Yeah - I'd like easier steps too listed please - and thanks for sharing!
I made a mistake in my original post.
Seems that what was happening is that I was using the T-mobile Orange signal and not been able to tether. After messing with the APN's the phone went back to T-Mobile and so started to work. Nothing to do with the messing with the APN's
But, what does seem to work, is to re-create the APN's as they were, but on the first entry, change APN type from 'default,hipri' to 'default,hipri,dun'
That works on T-Mobile and when roaming onto Orange it seems
To do this, copy the info from all three APN's and then with the APN screen open, select menu and then 'reset to default'
This deletes the APN's and then gives you the choice of carrier to use. I used Virgin I think (doesnt matter which you use) but once the new APN(s) are there, just delete them. Then, menu and add APN.
Set up each of the APN's as they were before, except the above change (adding dun to the Apn type)
Tomo1971 said:
I made a mistake in my original post.
Seems that what was happening is that I was using the T-mobile Orange signal and not been able to tether. After messing with the APN's the phone went back to T-Mobile and so started to work. Nothing to do with the messing with the APN's
But, what does seem to work, is to re-create the APN's as they were, but on the first entry, change APN type from 'default,hipri' to 'default,hipri,dun'
That works on T-Mobile and when roaming onto Orange it seems
To do this, copy the info from all three APN's and then with the APN screen open, select menu and then 'reset to default'
This deletes the APN's and then gives you the choice of carrier to use. I used Virgin I think (doesnt matter which you use) but once the new APN(s) are there, just delete them. Then, menu and add APN.
Set up each of the APN's as they were before, except the above change (adding dun to the Apn type)
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Smashing thanks. Tethering working fine now on T-Mo only, will try the solution you suggest for T-Mo/Orange when I get a chance. Much appreciated!
I don't have any problems tethering whilst on Orange on Android handsets. I'm not on Full Monty though, if that makes any difference. It is impossible to tether on an iPhone whilst on T-MobileOrange though. The hotspot option is just greyed out. As soon as you switch back to TMobile you get the option to switch it on again. Orange 3G is utter crap anyway. Unfortunately I pretty much roam onto it whether I like it or not at my new address.
as usual i'm stumbling at the first block...
'copy the info from all three APN's'...
when i click on any of them all the settings are greyed out, i wonder what i'm doing wrong?
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sussed and working fine now
Just about to do this.
Out of curiosity what is the Broadband APN for??
Is it a tethering only APN? e.g. Now tethering is removed from NEW Full Monty contract connections (of which i have one) If i tether, thus using that APN, will they be able to see that and have a go.
Or now tethering is removed will that APN not work?
James
parkenator said:
Just about to do this.
Out of curiosity what is the Broadband APN for??
Is it a tethering only APN? e.g. Now tethering is removed from NEW Full Monty contract connections (of which i have one) If i tether, thus using that APN, will they be able to see that and have a go.
Or now tethering is removed will that APN not work?
James
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I reckon tethering will work…. but will get charged…. and its likely to be expensive.
Seems a strange decision on TMO's part TBH, as they share part of the backhaul with 3 UK you would think that they could cope with extra bandwidth needed.
I assume the broadband APN is for tethering but as I say, if used then it will be billed. Just cos the handset/set up can do it, doesnt meant it wont go past the billing systems.
Steve
So, I'm coming from a S7 edge, and I'm on xfinity mobile. When I'd send an mms or my wife sends me one, it would auto download with data off. But since using the note10+ I sent my wife a pic and its requiring I put data on to send it. Asked her to send me one and I need to put data on to download it.
Is there something in settings to look into?
The s7edge was a tmobile branded phone, that was flashed using the verizon firmware, (for some reason xfinity firmware didnt connect at all, which is odd but anyways)
It's not a big deal, but I'm wondering why it's an issue now.
Thanks guys!
I am on Xfinity Mobile as well. If you go look at their own forums, many others with many types of phones have this issue. The support agents over there either say that is how its supposed to work or do not know what the issue is.
MMS is based on the 3G infrastructure that was the addition of an additional data layer, so I would assume it has always required data as it has always required a minimum 3G connection.
yes you need data for mms, not sms but yes for mms
Hopefully I'm not missing something obv. but I have a sm-975f variant that is rooted that I am using on Cricket. I'm trying to do wifi tethering using the hotspot feature, but devices are not getting internet. I have added them as approved devices once they connect, but still no internet. I do not have a tethering plan with Cricket, but coming from "vanilla" Android devices for years, I was just able to connect with no problems. Is there something I am missing? Should I use a third-party app?
You have to have the tehering package, my unlocked and rooted Moto Z2 Force never would connect either, also never found any third party apps to work either.
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You have to have the tehering package, my unlocked and rooted Moto Z2 Force never would connect either, also never found any third party apps to work either.
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Actually just changed to the updated package with the tethering a few minutes ago. I'll give it some time before testing again to see if that works. Like I said, coming from AOSP and Pixel roms, never had to worry about actually having it included in my plan.
Hmmm..still no internet. I get an IP address but nothing. I was looking and seen that the Note 10+ wasnt on their "approved list" (if that really means anything.) I guess I can call their (existent) customer support to make sure my plan has updated.
I resolved the problem by doing some googleing. The default apn that gets loaded when you insert a cricket sim was missing a setting in the apn type field. It was missing "dun". Once I added that, I was able to get internet on tethered devices. I also moved my sim to slot two which may or may not have helped.
To add, my p2xl did not have the "dun" setting but still was able to tether other devices with no problems so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯