Hey everyone,
I received my Xperia Arc S 3 days ago. Well, since it's my first smartphone and I was not used to it I first used all the battery and then I gave it 12hours of charging.
Well it seems I did it wrong since Li-Poly batteries shouldn't be charged on that way. So, here are my questions.
1. The fact of letting my phone completely discharge and then give it 12 hours charge was a BIG MISTAKE?
2. How can I correctly charge my device?
Thank you all.
Why it should be a big mistake?
I've done the same:
buying
completely discharged
charged for many hours
I haven't any battery drain or something and I also heard you should do that (correct me if I'm wrong).
Hey pal,
Well I thought it would be the right procedure as well but it seems that with Li-Poly batteries we shouldn't let them completely discharge as it may affect its life. However, I am not sure and I still don't know if it's the truth! Let's wait for some more feedback and see what's coming.
Plus, how long does your battery stand?
Note: In addition, thank you for your response
These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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Flo95 said:
These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
Pedro Pinto said:
Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
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If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
dp94 said:
If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
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Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
Pedro Pinto said:
Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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Well, my one is charging for 2 hours now and it says its battery is 88% charged!
I have to leave in 1:30 hours and I guess It'll be fully charged then. Hopefully I won't have to charge it again during the night
You can plug it in as long as you want, nothing will happen exept the battery gets charged.
Sometimes I plug it in 5 mins before going out and my battery is ok.
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Hi can anybody help on calibirating battery on miracle v4 rom
no....nothing can be done
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Do bump charging instead of battery calibration. Search it on google.
-Charge your phone to 100%
-Use this battery Calibration app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=de
This app needs root
-Then let your phone discharge until it turns off itself
Notice: in this time you're not allowed to plug the phone to the pc or to the charger again until it turns off
-after it turns off plug the phone to the charger and let it charge without breaks to 100%
-Done
I recall that battery calibration was bogus, there was a post which explained why it was bogus in detail. In other words, don't bother, but charge your battery around 50% if you want a healthy battery.
xxfamasxx said:
Do bump charging instead of battery calibration. Search it on google.
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what is bump charging can you elaborate
Blue ripazah said:
what is bump charging can you elaborate
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http://bit.ly/KZdfJJ - Why cant you just google it like he said?
also you can go to recovery and select wipe batterystats.bin
Calibrating your battery does not give you extra battery life, just improves the battery level indicator. Android calibrates battery itself anyway (when battery info change to a few seconds)
batter calibration is of no use i have tested it many times on many roms. our ace has not a good battery. so follow common steps like brightness to 0, application background off etc etc.
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batter calibration is of no use i have tested it many times on many roms. our ace has not a good battery. so follow common steps like brightness to 0, application background off etc etc.
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thnx will do as u suggested
There is a way to get good battery life in miracle v4 but it took me about 5 days now I get 16 hours off battery with heavy use and about 22 hours for normal use
How I did this
1.let your battery totally die
2.leave your phone off and give full charge
3.still with your charger pluged in boot to cwm recovery
4.now select advanced then wipe battery status
5.now still with with charger pluged in reboot you phone
6.when your phone is fully booted remove charger(you will notice the battery will drop to about 86% in about 10 mins the first time but will get better each time you repeat all these step)
NOTE:I have done this on my wife's s.g.ace with rom miracle v4
And on my Sony Ericsson x8 with many different Rom's
And on my friends Sony Ericsson x10i with many different rom's
YOU MUST USE MAINS CHARGER NOT USB FROM P.C OR LAPTOP AS USB WILL ONLY TRICKLE CHARGE.
If this helped hit the thanks button
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Blue ripazah said:
Hi can anybody help on calibirating battery on miracle v4 rom
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refer to the post on this page..i did the same as said..now getting about a day on heavy usage (wifi more than 6hrs)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583871&page=146
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Read this...seriously..you should...
When a Google Engineer says battery calibration is useless..u think you know better about android than the guys who designed it?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
King ACE said:
Read this...seriously..you should...
When a Google Engineer says battery calibration is useless..u think you know better about android than the guys who designed it?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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And samsung say no update to ics but there are working ics Rom for ace so are Samsung thick or are the devs here from menca ie. People with a IQ of 200+ also was it not google that said android would be lag free from 2.2+ and if that's the case what is the point in developing faster rom's of which all rom's here
Are faster then stock thanks to all the developers that work hard to make the android experience much better
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according to the miracle v4 developers the battery indicator doesn't indicate about the battery properly ...will charge now to the max even after 100 % and will let you know what happens
I know battery calibration is useless, but how can ace have better accurate reading. And my problem is that whenever my phone deep sleep for a while and i start to use, the battery decrease rapidly after screen in for a while. Its like the battery is leaking even in deep sleep. Is this a common problem for ace user?
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LexterAce said:
I know battery calibration is useless, but how can ace have better accurate reading. And my problem is that whenever my phone deep sleep for a while and i start to use, the battery decrease rapidly after screen in for a while. Its like the battery is leaking even in deep sleep. Is this a common problem for ace user?
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Yes i have used the deep sleep option amd came to a conclusion that deep sleep is just a myth
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Calibration does not improve or increase battery life. It would just help in getting a more accurate battery level reading. Or so i read somewhere.
thedisturbedone said:
Calibration does not improve or increase battery life. It would just help in getting a more accurate battery level reading. Or so i read somewhere.
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That's what I used to think, but read the post above by a Google engineer. All batterystats.bin is used for is the battery use screen
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tomb20 said:
That's what I used to think, but read the post above by a Google engineer. All batterystats.bin is used for is the battery use screen
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Oh really? Sorry it was too long to read
But anyway I like to use apps like Battery Monitor Widget which are able to predict how much of usage i can get. And it is very detailed too.
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Oh really? Sorry it was too long to read
But anyway I like to use apps like Battery Monitor Widget which are able to predict how much of usage i can get. And it is very detailed too.
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Oh my...lazy people around here
+1 to the battery monitor widget.. i use that too
Hello guys...I am new to this community as i recently registered to XDA...but i know maybe a bit about our phone Galaxy W GT-i8150....That could prove useful to Starters......
Now...mostly Users have problems with battery when they flash new ROMS....the reason is....their battery stats...for example if a person flashed a new ROM with 60% of battery....the phone will detect 60% as 100% and battery will drain quickly.....but You guys don't need to worry as i have found some ways to rectify this problem....Battery Callibration...yes u need to callibrate your battery in order to get long lasting batteries....there are some ways of doing it...most easy is through an app found in play store....Battery Callibration by NéMa...you just need to charge ur phone at 100%....and go to app and click 'Callibrate' (with charger plugged on!) ...and this will reset ur battery stats....it is recommended (not necessary) to drain out all the battery after callibration and Charge ur phone from 0% to 100% without a gap....
As i am a newbie...so i cannot post outside links...however if anyone needs to get more of it...he/she can PM me at any time and i ll try my best to help...!
I hope this post would prove useful to all of you.....! :good:
I have that app. Never really used it lol what happens if I calibrated it like a 50 wouldn't that mess it up?? So technically it is necessary.. idk lol I'm def no noob but I don't quite understand this app. Batt life seems the same after I calibrate battery (last time I tried)
Anymore info!!?!?!?!
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You shouldn't uncharge your battery to 0%.
For calibrate your battery just charge it to 100%, shut down your phone, let it charge to 100% again, go to CWM, advanced, wipe battery stats, before wipe unplug USB cable.
I realize that..I'm just confused about this battery calibration. Doesn't make a difference for me..and yes I agree I never fully discharge me phone. Bad idea
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I don't know about the ROMs the op flashes, but if my battery is at 50% when I flash a new ROM it doesn't go to 100% more like between 47-50%.
Besides the fact that battery calibration has been explained away as a myth, I can also state "calibrating" battery has never increased my battery life.
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MiguelPT said:
You shouldn't uncharge your battery to 0%.
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Do you mean that using all of your battery (till 0% when the phone automatically turns off) is a bad idea?
Why?
Thanks
[.::MDT::.] said:
Do you mean that using all of your battery (till 0% when the phone automatically turns off) is a bad idea?
Why?
Thanks
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Yes, it's bad idea, because you have a Lithium-ion battery which as no memory effect.
Read this
Actually this app wipes your battery stats and makes a fresh copy of them...
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Well i wrote that for those users who have flashed stock rom and dont have or want CWM recovery...moreover it's just recommended...
And me and other users have experienced that the more roms we flash...the more battery life decreases....anyway if there is a better way...please do let me know...
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Hi
my wildfire can't charge more than 5% i know it is not battery fault because i have used two different batteries.
i wiped my battery 5 times i wiped everything a changed my Rom Changed my kernel.i am using CM7.
i read this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11803458&postcount=10
but it is for Motorolla and when i pull out battery my phone turns off immediately.
i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597846 but it didn't work for me.
i tried to restore my phone to official rom with RUU but i can't because it says that your battery must be more than 30% so i don't know how to do that thank you everyone please guide me?
Try installing battery caliberation from play storeand follow the instructions given in the app. It might help.
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.xxx. said:
Try installing battery caliberation from play storeand follow the instructions given in the app. It might help.
Sent from Hell!!
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If what .xxx. said doesn't work then i'll say the same thing i have said in my almost every post in wildfire section
"Your motherboard might be damaged, (the link between micro-USB port and the motherboard to be specific)....please get it checked...i had the same problem"
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Try installing battery caliberation from play storeand follow the instructions given in the app. It might help.
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as i said i cant charge my phone more than 5% so i can't calibrate because this app need 100% charge.BTW thanks for your reply
Echo237 said:
If what .xxx. said doesn't work then i'll say the same thing i have said in my almost every post in wildfire section
"Your motherboard might be damaged, (the link between micro-USB port and the motherboard to be specific)....please get it checked...i had the same problem"
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i think it's software problem not hardware because i changed the battery with another battery which was used in another phone and it was full but in my phone the battery status was 11% when i put it again to another willy it was 95%.
It doesn't charge after 5% or it doesn't show more than 5% battery? Huge difference between the 2
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.xxx. said:
It doesn't charge after 5% or it doesn't show more than 5% battery? Huge difference between the 2
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Exactly. And if it is like that, then use the calibration tool while your phone it on charge.
Again asking for clarifying....is you phone not charging beyond some % or is your phone not showing the charge beyond some %
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I am having a similar problem but mine doesn't charge beyond 75-80% depending upon when I have plugged it for charging.
If I start charging at say 50%+ it charges beyond 80% but does not fully charge, and if I start at say <40% it does not go beyond 74%.
Now at this level if I restart my willy the battery shows 90+% and I can charge it to 100%.
I have tried everything wiping the battery stats, using the calibration tool nothing's really working. I doubt when I used a Samsung charger for charging that's where the electrical circuit might have got damaged or may be when when I dropped it from 4-5ft.
Since I have already rooted it I don't think HTC service center will help me here with motherboard or electrical changes.
If you guys know any method lease let me know and btw it's >1.5 yr old battery.
Thanks
revankar said:
I am having a similar problem but mine doesn't charge beyond 75-80% depending upon when I have plugged it for charging.
If I start charging at say 50%+ it charges beyond 80% but does not fully charge, and if I start at say <40% it does not go beyond 74%.
Now at this level if I restart my willy the battery shows 90+% and I can charge it to 100%.
I have tried everything wiping the battery stats, using the calibration tool nothing's really working. I doubt when I used a Samsung charger for charging that's where the electrical circuit might have got damaged or may be when when I dropped it from 4-5ft.
Since I have already rooted it I don't think HTC service center will help me here with motherboard or electrical changes.
If you guys know any method lease let me know and btw it's >1.5 yr old battery.
Thanks
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can you explain more?shall i charge it then remove battery and then start charging again and again?i could reach to 42% woooow but not 100%.
can anyone change the codes of battery by making a flashable patch for just showing 100% of battery(not real status) i need this for calibrating my battery.but batterystats.bin wasn't useful
This issue may have been solved, but I'll post anyway.
You can calibrate your battery when it's lower than 100% using the app mentioned above. There is an option within the app to calibrate it regardless of battery percentage, just click that option then calibrate.
Hope it helps,
Francis.
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My battery rapidly decreasing... i dont know why i only have few apps running in background like directory bind.... and seeder.. and i only play virtua tennis ( my battery was 60% that time ) then goes 15% around 10 mins and goes shut down... but now..my battery decrease rapidly and after i reboot my phone it says i have 15% battery life left but it dies very fast... just a moderate usage. like texting. and reading.. plz helppp.
when charging... its temperature is around 35 celcius and when playing games.. it goes 40-45 celcius
by the way. is charging phones via USB make battery bad?? and charging while using is bad ? and also. it very fast to charge. its like if you charge 40% . it will fully charge around 30 mins...
srry for my bad english. ask anything that you dont understand. thanks (( need help asap. thankss :angel::angel:
heres a screen shot ((
www.imgur.com/Rc41U
Download from google play Battery Calibration and calibrate your battery.....follow his instruction
jomz878 said:
My battery rapidly decreasing... i dont know why i only have few apps running in background like directory bind.... and seeder.. and i only play virtua tennis ( my battery was 60% that time ) then goes 15% around 10 mins and goes shut down... but now..my battery decrease rapidly and after i reboot my phone it says i have 15% battery life left but it dies very fast... just a moderate usage. like texting. and reading.. plz helppp.
when charging... its temperature is around 35 celcius and when playing games.. it goes 40-45 celcius
by the way. is charging phones via USB make battery bad?? and charging while using is bad ? and also. it very fast to charge. its like if you charge 40% . it will fully charge around 30 mins...
srry for my bad english. ask anything that you dont understand. thanks (( need help asap. thankss :angel::angel:
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What ROM are you using? Maybe the ROM who are using still has bugs that disabled CPU deep-sleep. Flash the custom ROM again or find another one to use.
Try calibrate your battery aganin
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use cpu spy and see if your phone have deepsleep or not
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IIRC, i have read in XDA articles that some applications will interfere the phone going into the deepsleep mode and the "directory bind" was the one among of them.
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bengonk said:
IIRC, i have read in XDA articles that some applications will interfere the phone going into the deepsleep mode and the "directory bind" was the one among of them.
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yap. some application will force the processor to be awake to do the background process. this means nore batttery usage
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Could be your battery is dying. Try to inspect the physical of your battery. If you see any bulging, it's your battery faulty.
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Im not using any roms and i tried that battery calibration ( still charging my phone to 100% by the way. it says my battery is good but for me its worst. ). and cpu spy
By the way. im using battery HD. and also. i saw my statistics .. kinda unbelievable and also. it feels my battery bulky a little bit. it feels that itwont fit on my phone a little... maybe tomorrow i gonna upload a video on what im talking about my battery srry for my bad english.
and its the picture of statistics (( and i gonna upload a video later. ( still uploading )
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my battery has been bloated too,,,
because i forgot my phone plugged in the laptop for almost a night,,,, then it becomes bloated...
santiagoruel13 said:
my battery has been bloated too,,,
because i forgot my phone plugged in the laptop for almost a night,,,, then it becomes bloated...
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so if it goes bloated. we shall change and buy another battery ? and we shouldn`t overcharge it next time?
btw sir. you forgot it almost 12 hours on your laptop ?
i've had to buy a spare battery from samsung,,,,
btw,, ya,, i forgot to unplug my phone,,,, the next morning,,,, i noticed that my wonder becomes heavier as well as a noticeable bump in its cover.....
santiagoruel13 said:
i've had to buy a spare battery from samsung,,,,
btw,, ya,, i forgot to unplug my phone,,,, the next morning,,,, i noticed that my wonder becomes heavier as well as a noticeable bump in its cover.....
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Mate. Non-stop charging your battery doesn't kill your battery too much. It have extremely slight effect because smartphones can stop the charges from coming in when its full. Unless you charge it for like 2 straight days, then it might matter a bit. Or excessly game when you charge and the temperature goes up too high for too long.
And most importantly, The battery getting fat DOES NOT make the phone heavier.
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Mate. Non-stop charging your battery doesn't kill your battery too much. It have extremely slight effect because smartphones can stop the charges from coming in when its full. Unless you charge it for like 2 straight days, then it might matter a bit. Or excessly game when you charge and the temperature goes up too high for too long.
And most importantly, The battery getting fat DOES NOT make the phone heavier.
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Waaaaaaaa..
So. charging phones when temperature is high ( after a intense gaming with angry birds ) xD ).. discharge the phone until its last drop.....will cause battery to malfunction? Waaaa...i did those things at least almost 1 month. i was wrong all the time ..
BTW my battery gets fatter. what does it means? ( i notice when i pull out the battery and put it back again. coz it wont fit on my phone... by the way.
should i always charge my battery up to 99% so it wont have extremely slight effect ? and also. should i buy new battery ?? i hope there is some 2900 mah xD i saw one but it feels not durable...
KiD3991 said:
Mate. Non-stop charging your battery doesn't kill your battery too much. It hs extremely slight effect because smartphones can stop the charging from coming in when its full. Unless you charge it for like 2 straight days, then it might matter a bit. Or excessly game when you charge and the temperature goes up too high for too long.
And most importantly, The battery getting fat DOES NOT make the phone heavier.
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mate,,, yep,, non -stop charging wont,, but if you charge your phone via usb from a laptop,,, try it for yourself, ,, coz usb charging prevents our phone from deep sleep state because its in debug mode + in usb mass storage mode,,,,
and in terms of the battery,,, why is it that my phone becomes lighter when i use a new battery,,,
or samsung has given me a local // unauthenticated battery,,,HMM
btw,,, my bloated battery happened when i forgot to unplug my phone beacuse im copying all my backed up apk +data to my phone,,,, then i felt selepy then i decided to take a nap,10pm,,when i woke up,, its already 6am ,,,magine that,,,,
as i can feel it,, my bloated battery seams to be a bit heavier compared to my newly- bought battery...
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mate,,, yep,, non -stop charging wont,, but if you charge your phone via usb from a laptop,,, try it for yourself, ,, coz usb charging prevents our phone from deep sleep state because its in debug mode + in usb mass storage mode,,,,
and in terms of the battery,,, why is it that my phone becomes lighter when i use a new battery,,,
or samsung has given me a local // unauthenticated battery,,,HMM
btw,,, my bloated battery happened when i forgot to unplug my phone beacuse im copying all my backed up apk +data to my phone,,,, then i felt selepy then i decided to take a nap,10pm,,when i woke up,, its already 6am ,,,magine that,,,,
as i can feel it,, my bloated battery seams to be a bit heavier compared to my newly- bought battery...
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btw sir. does bloated battery.... makes battery life worst? i mean is. if you have bloated battery. you must buy a new one? and also. does usb charging is bad ?
yep,, at 100%,, after an hour or two,, it drastically drops to 50% even when not using,,, and when i use it,, after 5-10 min hard gaming,,, it went off,,,,
so i've had no choice but to buy a new one,,,
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not that sure though,, conventional chargers,, the one that comes with the phone,,, has a voltage limiter,, which means,, it limits the voltage that charges the battery,,, while usb chargers,,, they dont have them,,,,
jomz878 said:
btw sir. does bloated battery.... makes battery life worst? i mean is. if you have bloated battery. you must buy a new one? and also. does usb charging is bad ?
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You need to replace bloated battery if you want any improvement on battery life. No other means can restore it. USB charging is bad, read on some previous posts.
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reidzeibel said:
You need to replace bloated battery if you want any improvement on battery life. No other means can restore it. USB charging is bad, read on some previous posts.
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i see thanks by the way.
using phone while charging is bad also? btw.what r the do`s and dont`s :so battery keep good im so newbie srry
i think,,
never let your battery got fully drained before charging,,,
and let it leave for a while while its not yet fully charged