Unknown cause for Brick - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I've been rooting phones for quite a while now and have never faced a problem I couldn't fix. It seems I'm not as lucky this time...
I rooted my Epic 4G Touch the night I got it, and recently flashed the CM9 alpha 3 rom successfully. Since the beginning the phone has always gotten very hot when using it, but a few days ago, I was using it like normal, texting, when it froze up. I gave it a few minutes to refresh or reboot like it usually does, but it didn't. I ended up pulling the battery. When I turned it back on, it began to boot up, got to the boot animation, and then froze again... I pulled the battery and tried once more. This time, it didn't turn on at all. Since then I've tried multiple batteries, a usb jig, and all I've gotten is the blue led to turn and stay on. I've tried booting up to download mode, still to no avail.
Today, I took it to the Sprint store and told them what had happened. They took a closer look and determined it was water damage due to one of the indicators...? I haven't ever dropped my phone in water nor somehow gotten water on it. I have brought it in the bathroom to play music when I take a shower, if the steam could do anything. I don't have a warranty anymore and they want $200 dollars for a new one...
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

If they refuse to try to repair it, then you'll just have to shell out for a new one. The blue light brick is unrepairable right now...not even JTag or Sprint stores can fix it.
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Steam=water/phone=brick
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I dropped myself nexus in water and sprint bought it back jaja and both my previous et4gs
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Common ways for liquid damage is putting it in the shower, the steam creeps in through the charging port and will begin to wreak havok on the device. Other ways, I've encountered are putting it in a cup holder, and also keeping the phone on you during physical activity. The sweat and moisture from your body can cause liquid damage.

Damn, I've been bringing my phone in the bathroom with me while showering to listen to some Pandora for months. Gonna have to rethink that now.....

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[Q] Galaxy Nexus - Almost Waterproof?

Droids don't belong in the sink.
Good news, it's ALMOST working. It stayed on, and actually Skype stayed on broadcasting its drop. I panicked, pulled it out, tried to turn it off, pulled battery. Ended up it bootloop.
Flashed a series of images most of the days and finally this process seemed to get me the closest.
1. Flash CWM to boot.
2. Reboot in unlocked fastboot
3. Flash Google stock images
It ACTUALLY booted. I had WiFi, cellular connection and a touch screen.
The touch screen became sluggish, stopped working, my phone restarted itself.
Back to boot loop. Tells me all the hardware is working, just intermittently.
Don't know what else to do.
I'm confused. Is this a story about your phone surviving "water?" Or are you simply looking for help on what to do because your phone is boot looping?
If it's help then it was probably a bad idea to turn the phone back on. Best thing to do is put it in a bag of rice and leave it there for a couple of days for everything to dry. I'm not sure what there is to do now because you already turned it back on and it could of caused permanent damage to your phone. You can put it in a bag of rice and see what happens anyway. You might get lucky.
When you drop any gadget in water, best thing to do is immediately remove the battery and leave it in a bowl of rice for a day or two.
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emuneee said:
When you drop any gadget in water, best thing to do is immediately remove the battery and leave it in a bowl of rice for a day or two.
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Yup. Absolute worst thing you can do is put the battery back in and turn it on.
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all i know is i'll be damned if i ever decide to do a water(or liquid of any kind) test on this phone or any other phone for that matter. phyiscal abuse is a different story....
from my experience, a phone can really take a beating, but when it comes to liquids.. game over!
I should know better. I just wish the person I was Skyping with recorded the demise of my Droid
Just dry it out for a few days, or longer as others have mentioned above, i had a magic that was fully soaked that would boot fine after a few hours of drying but it took almost a week before the touch screen was working stably, i gave it to a friend as i had already replaced it and it went on to be used daily for another couple of years.
I saw somewhere that you can dunk it in rubbing alcohol to displace the water before you put it in rice.
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I saw somewhere that you can dunk it in rubbing alcohol to displace the water before you put it in rice.
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I wouldn't recommend that. I'd recommend opening up the case since warranty shot anyways and pat dry as much as possible, then stick in rice.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

Dropped my phone in water. What to do?

Okay, so I dropped my phone in a puddle. Did the whole rice thing and whatnot to no avail. The phone isn't COMPLETELY fried, but unusable. It turns on, but only for about 60 seconds at a time before it reboots. The power button is spazzing out and constantly presses so the screen goes off and on. I can use the phone for a minute if i hold the power button and then press the back button when the long press menu comes up.
Enough of that, time for solutions.
I'm not eligible for an upgrade until August in which I was hoping for the GS3 to be released on Sprint by then. I was hoping to maybe buy a bad ESN Galaxy Nexus or even just another Epic off EBay/Craigslist. Would I be able to use my Epic's clean ESN for the Nexus? I'm on a really tight budget so full price is completely out of the question. Any and all help is greatly appreciated guys!
Is it rooted? Better odin back to fc09 if it is and bring it to sprint to see if they'll replace it. I had the same issue with the buttons going crazy and not working and they gave me a new one.
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ESNs are tied to each phone, and cannot legally be swapped AFAIK
Could try taking apart and seeing if a cleaning will help, if you are going to write the phone off anyways.
Do you have TEP? Can try to ODIN the latest OTA, and if it fails see if a shop will replace it, but they may find a water detector tripped
IMO, best best is an Epic off Ebay or Craig's list with a clean ESN
Alcohol!!!!! Watch the vid, it'll help out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtyZhwvhqiQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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elite developer adam (sorry forgot the last name or so), talks about how alcohol will absorb the moistur or water rather quickly, but if the board got wet, you have a max of 15 seconds before the board becomes warped. meaning, the phone will be totally non-functional. as far as the esn is concerned, sorry, thats a no go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569701
this thread might help with taken it apart to clean out
LORDFIRE00 said:
but if the board got wet, you have a max of 15 seconds before the board becomes warped. meaning, the phone will be totally non-functional
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If this was true, then the rice fix would never work, would it?
I have seen several people say they got their phone wet, and use the few days in rice trick to get it back, wouldn't that mean the board was wet for longer than 15 seconds?
DCRocks said:
If this was true, then the rice fix would never work, would it?
I have seen several people say they got their phone wet, and use the few days in rice trick to get it back, wouldn't that mean the board was wet for longer than 15 seconds?
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Really all depends on how long it was in the water and how long it took you to get it into the rice... if you can get it out of the water in 10 secs or less you probably have a little time to get it into the rice... not like the water is just gonna pour in it as soon as it hits the water... if you get it straight out you most likely won't have very much water inside it and be able to still dry it out...
My phone went for a swim with me last summer let it set for about 3 days then turned it on and everything worked just fine so let it set somewhere where its hot so it dries your phone and yeah I was one of those idiots that tried turning my phone on several times during that day I didn't stick in rice or any thing like just let it naturally dry out
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Strange Issues With Phone Need Help PLEASE

I dropped my phone in water about a month ago. I dried it out in rice overnight and now I am having issues. People say they have trouble hearing me on a phone conversation. My charging port doesnt work half the time. Also my screen sometimes will not respond to my touch and I have to remove battery to get the screen to work.
I'm wondering if these problems could be related to the ROM I'm using or from the water damage. Any help and suggestions can save me some headaches. I feel like my only option is buying a new phone.
if your phone started messing up after you dropped in water it may be a hardware problem or trying flashing it with odin. if it started after you installed the rom then just revert back to your previous rom.
Mailman74 said:
I dropped my phone in water about a month ago. I dried it out in rice overnight and now I am having issues. People say they have trouble hearing me on a phone conversation. My charging port doesnt work half the time. Also my screen sometimes will not respond to my touch and I have to remove battery to get the screen to work.
I'm wondering if these problems could be related to the ROM I'm using or from the water damage. Any help and suggestions can save me some headaches. I feel like my only option is buying a new phone.
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I think this is a good excuse for you to pick up a new galaxy s 3! lol if you have the money for it.
Those issues sound like they are from water damage. i used to have a og evo 4g and i used to play music in the shower, well eventually i noticed that the boot up time for the phone took twice as long. i took it to sprint repair and they opened it and told me it had water damage. Steam had gotten inside and messed it up making it really slow.
Im pretty sure its water damage for your phone. see if you can open it and check the water damage indicator strip?? your phone has one on the battery, most phones also have one inside the phone but im not 100% sure on this one.
Mailman74 said:
I dropped my phone in water about a month ago. I dried it out in rice overnight and now I am having issues. People say they have trouble hearing me on a phone conversation. My charging port doesnt work half the time. Also my screen sometimes will not respond to my touch and I have to remove battery to get the screen to work.
I'm wondering if these problems could be related to the ROM I'm using or from the water damage. Any help and suggestions can save me some headaches. I feel like my only option is buying a new phone.
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What ROM are you using? Some of the issues you are describing applies to older versions of cm9 and AOKP.
The charging port not working... Is that when the phone is on or off? Once again, it could be ROM related.

[Q] So, I dropped my rooted phone.

UPDATE: Phone was replaced at the nearest service center free of charge, no questions asked. :highfive:
My phone took a fall today from about mid-chest height. I didn't think anything of it as it was in a case and the screen is unblemished, but a few minutes later I noticed it wouldn't turn on. I pulled the battery a few times, tried the three-finger salute while connected to power and it's showing no response. It does get a bit warm after a few minutes of having the battery in it, though. I'm pretty sure it's done for but if anyone has any suggestions for getting it to power up, I'm all ears!
In life, was obviously rooted and ran AOKP. In death, it's as beautiful as the day I bought it cosmetically speaking. No signs of liquid or physical abuse of any kind. Is it even worth it trying for the warranty replacement? "I woke up this morning and my phone won't power on, I dunno what happened?!?" Or should I not even bother and just take the $200 to the face for insurance to replace it? I'm just looking for some opinions. Thanks all! :highfive:
Medlock87 said:
My phone took a fall today from about mid-chest height. I didn't think anything of it as it was in a case and the screen is unblemished, but a few minutes later I noticed it wouldn't turn on. I pulled the battery a few times, tried the three-finger salute while connected to power and it's showing no response. It does get a bit warm after a few minutes of having the battery in it, though. I'm pretty sure it's done for but if anyone has any suggestions for getting it to power up, I'm all ears!
In life, was obviously rooted and ran AOKP. In death, it's as beautiful as the day I bought it cosmetically speaking. No signs of liquid or physical abuse of any kind. Is it even worth it trying for the warranty replacement? "I woke up this morning and my phone won't power on, I dunno what happened?!?" Or should I not even bother and just take the $200 to the face for insurance to replace it? I'm just looking for some opinions. Thanks all! :highfive:
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No blemishes and it doesnt power on?
WARRANTY
"I woke up this morning and my phone wont turn on."
-did you drop it or damage it?
"nope, take a look, not a scratch or mark on the moisture detector"
how can they not warranty it?
I'd try it. If it won't turn on at all, won't show anything on the screen, i seriously doubt they could hold the idea of it being rooted or using a custom ROM against you. Actually.... they can't even really use the idea of it being rooted against you, since rooting is legal per the DMCA.... so i think you'd be alright trying for a warranty replacement.
seriously, its not like they will send it to the forensics lab for deep analysis of the installed software
Ha. Thanks guys, I will try this on Tuesday as I've been stucking working overtime well past the time the stores close. I'll update in a couple days!
I bricked my old SGS2 while flashing CM9 wouldn't power open. Called in a replacement. As long as it doesn't turn shouldn't be a problem.
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If all else fails, you should be able to flash stock back onto it even if you cant see the screen. If it heats up, I assume that it is powered on but you just cant see it. I would suggest using a USB dongle from ebay to force it into download mode and then Odin it back to stock. Even if this is not necessary, I would still suggest you get yourself one of the Usb Jigs to have around just in case in the future.
did you guys bought additonal monthly warranty from AT&T or is there a factory warranty from Samsung for 1 year period since purchased date?
Absolutely they will replace it. You don't even need acting skills for this trust me
jefferson9 said:
Absolutely they will replace it. You don't even need acting skills for this trust me
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You all were right, I brought it into the repair center and they didn't even ask questions about how it happened or anything. I was in and out in like 10 mins. Now..where's that no trip flash counter root thread? Lol I miss AOKP already.
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[Q] How concerned should I be about my SGS3?

This is a bit of a long story but I need advice and I'm not sure where else to go. I have the phone rooted but the only thing I've done is install KT747.
I'm not sure if it's related but I'll open with that about 6 months ago I dropped it in the bathtub (dumb as hell I know), took it to the sprint store and BSed them about what happened. They opened it up, saw the water indicator/water, called me on my BS, dried it off and cleaned the contacts with rubbing alcohol and my phone came back.
Fast forward to Tuesday, at work with my phone plugged into my laptop it cut off and would simply not come back on. The samsung logo would come up and then the KT747 "Kernel Domination" screen for a moment but then it would cut off. The phone would be on for maybe 3 seconds total. Even if I tried to boot into recovery or even download mode the same thing would occur (I think one time I got it to show the flash count and all that jazz in download mode). As the water indicator will still show water damage and you can clearly tell I've rooted it I was worried I might be screwed out of a phone, but I thought I was screwed the last time I went to sprint so I left to go do that, half way between work and the sprint store my phone cut back on in my pocket. Over the next day and a half it had similar problems but eventually came back (quicker than the first time). And now it's been running well for 3 days.
I've been doing some research on google and I've seen something about a motherboard defect that can cause sudden death, but I think this might be the international S3. It's really hard to tell what's what. Also I saw someone say it could be a battery issue so I ordered a new one but I'm still concerned this might not be the issue.
It's working fine now but I'm in constant fear my phone will just die any moment now.
Fr33dan said:
This is a bit of a long story but I need advice and I'm not sure where else to go. I have the phone rooted but the only thing I've done is install KT747.
I'm not sure if it's related but I'll open with that about 6 months ago I dropped it in the bathtub (dumb as hell I know), took it to the sprint store and BSed them about what happened. They opened it up, saw the water indicator/water, called me on my BS, dried it off and cleaned the contacts with rubbing alcohol and my phone came back.
Fast forward to Tuesday, at work with my phone plugged into my laptop it cut off and would simply not come back on. The samsung logo would come up and then the KT747 "Kernel Domination" screen for a moment but then it would cut off. The phone would be on for maybe 3 seconds total. Even if I tried to boot into recovery or even download mode the same thing would occur (I think one time I got it to show the flash count and all that jazz in download mode). As the water indicator will still show water damage and you can clearly tell I've rooted it I was worried I might be screwed out of a phone, but I thought I was screwed the last time I went to sprint so I left to go do that, half way between work and the sprint store my phone cut back on in my pocket. Over the next day and a half it had similar problems but eventually came back (quicker than the first time). And now it's been running well for 3 days.
I've been doing some research on google and I've seen something about a motherboard defect that can cause sudden death, but I think this might be the international S3. It's really hard to tell what's what. Also I saw someone say it could be a battery issue so I ordered a new one but I'm still concerned this might not be the issue.
It's working fine now but I'm in constant fear my phone will just die any moment now.
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If it was working fine before you dropped it in the water, then that's probably the cause. I doubt it's sudden death syndrome if there were no signs of shutting on and off before you dropped it in the water.
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joeyhdownsouth said:
If it was working fine before you dropped it in the water, then that's probably the cause. I doubt it's sudden death syndrome if there were no signs of shutting on and off before you dropped it in the water.
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But would I expect to see problems from water damage so long after the contact with water? I figured if there were going to be problems from the water it would have happened much quicker than this. Like I said the water damage was MONTHS ago.
Sounds like SDS power button failure. Very common on S3.
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