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Setcpu is the issue

I have been bouncing back in and forth from rom to rom. Most are great. Warm 2.2, DamageControl, and Virus (currently running). The issue I'm having is no matter witch rom or kernal I run on my Evo froyo, every time I install Setcpu within a couple of hours my launcher (no matter witch one) stops working. I have gone into root to reinstall, install and uninstall and nothing works. All Rome are affected by what I can tell. I'm finding the problem to be with setcpu. I'm surprised if can't find much information on this. Does anyone have ideas?
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Yea, setcpu can improve things but also causes issues elsewhere. I was using launcher pro for a while, and using that in conjunction with setcpu gave me nothing but poor battery life and terrible freezing. I have since then stopped using setcpu and my phone works fine. Besides the difference between 1ghz and 1.1-1.2 is negligible on the Evo unless your benchmarking imo
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Stop putting your phone's minimum frequency at 128 or 245MHz. Also, tweak your launcher's memory settings properly.

drmacinyasha said:
Stop putting your phone's minimum frequency at 128 or 245MHz. Also, tweak your launcher's memory settings properly.
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I did all that already. I had my screen off set to 384mhz, im no novice, setcpu has great benefits but has some negatives also.
OP, try ziggys 10/26 kernel. It has scripts that handle oc'ing up to 1.13ghz using interactive governer WITHOUT using setcpu
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I use SetCPU and Launcher Pro Plus and have used these 2 on every ROM I have used...which is a LOT!! My screen off is set to 245 and I OC to around 1228. I have NEVER had any issues on amy ROM. I dont know what is causing your issue but it isnt SetCPU and Launcher Pro....

[Q] MIUI Set CPU settings

Whats up guys? I have a question about using the Set CPU app.
Is it really worth it to use this app? Will it actually make an improvement in my battery life?
I don't want to use this app to speed up my phone, but to make it better on battery life.
I know you can set up profiles, but I'm not sure on what good setting would be to use. Can anyone give me some insight on this?
Also I'm running the latest version on MIUI and the Tiamat kernel.
P.S. Is there better kernels to be used then Tiamat?
Thanks in advance.

also I'm running the latest version on MIUI and the Tiamat kernel.
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maybe it's just me, but am getting better bat life with the stock kernal. I ran the tiamat for a few days, switched back and it was obvious to me.

With Tiamat the default governor is smartass, which has a built in setting for when the screen is off, that only lets the phone see a max of 368640, which will save on battery life and does.
Now if you want to get into using your own profiles then an app such as Setcpu can be helpful.
I have been using this and this in place of Setcpu. It's a little faster reacting to the changes form screen off to on. Just another option.
I like the Tiamat Kernels as well as JD's Kernels. They both work well with Miui, at least on my phone anyway.

I've used Set CPU for awhile, but then got away from it. I'm back on it now since MIUI doesn't have a built in OC. I would try the two PacerguyDon suggested. I have used the andrev_oc it is fine. The second one appears to have more functions than Set CPU. Set CPU doesn't allow you to under volt if that is what you are looking for.
I saw that Set CPU is $0.99 on Amazon, if you want it. However, I would try the other two for free and donate to the one you like best.
I have been using JD's Kernel the last few days and it seems to provide better battery life than stock. I originally tried using the Smartass govenor, but had to go back to On Demand. The Smartass was causing screen wake delay when receiving a call.
I stole this from another PacerguyDon's post and it breaks down the different govenors found in most OC apps.
Govenors

Set CPU is free for XDA members. It also does allow undervolting according to their post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419

[Q] Kernel Apps

Is there other apps that function like Trinity/Franco/Glados app? Because currently, I don't want to shell out a few bucks. I know i'm cheap, but just for now... Is there another app that is similar to those but free?
Also, I searched up SmartFlex, but I can't find an answer... Can anyone explain what it does?
I searched it, but I got answer like the system does not control CPU voltage or something.

Regarding the kernel apps... I don't think you'll find that in a free version. You could flash AOKP, which has some of those functionalities built-in the Rom Control menu in the Settings. There you can at least overclock & undervolt. For all the options you'll have to get the paid app however. Maybe reconsider buying them? At least the money goes to a good cause (that is the devs making those great kernels )
For the SmartFlex, I suppose you mean Smartreflex? I'm no expert on the matter, but as far as I know it's used to calibrate the voltages of the different hardware components like CPU & GPU. Turning off Smartreflex (if you've undervolted) will result in those components using 'stock' voltages, thus draining your battery faster. Difference should be minimal though, but I suppose it all depends on how far you undervolt.
Be wary with that by the way, too much undervolting could make your system unstable and in worst case damage the hardware...

Hm, one last question. For trinity kernel the Color Preset, it means the color setting is already in place right? So you don't have to adjust..

No you don't need to change the settings, but in the end it boils down to your own preference. Usually the defaults are fine of course.

Does anyone use SetCPU any more?

I am by no means an expert and always thought SetCPU was useful - I don't use it to overclock - just use it primarily to limit the processor when the screen is off. However, with ICS and Jelly Bean and the improvements related to it, is there still a need for SetCPU? Again, not just to overclock, etc, but to limit the processor when the screen is off to attempt to save battery. Thoughts?

I personally have felt no need for SetCPU once I upgraded from my first Android device - a MyTouch3G.
The schedulers in most custom kernels nowadays already throttle back the CPU speeds when the screen is off. As for overclocking, it IMO doesn't make any noticeable difference anymore so I don't even bother.

athakur999 said:
I personally have felt no need for SetCPU once I upgraded from my first Android device - a MyTouch3G.
The schedulers in most custom kernels nowadays already throttle back the CPU speeds when the screen is off. As for overclocking, it IMO doesn't make any noticeable difference anymore so I don't even bother.
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But, what if you don't use the scheduler in the custom rom, is SetCPU still redundant?

I use it to set the voltages. If the hotplugx worked well with it I'd use it for profiles but unfortunately it'll crash.

[Q] Any way to speed up CM 10.1 or is there a liter ROM of it?

EDIT: *lighter, forgot to check spelling. Lol
So my Evo 3D has finally called it quits and I have one month left till I leave Sprint so my friend gave me this phone that he doesn't use any more. For such an old phone I really can't complain about it, compared to my Evo 3D which runs CM 10.1 too it never crashes, always has GPS, 3G, 4G working fine and the battery lasts me all day. So I'm in love. But my one and only issue is it is extremely slow. And no I will not leave CM 10.1 as I use Google Now very often but if their are huge differences/opportunities for huge differences I'll go down as low as CM 10 or a different 4.0+ ROM.
So I was wondering is there a lite version of CM 10.1, recommended kernels that support both overclocking and undervolting, can someone explain how to make a swap partition on the SD card, and so on, just any ways to free up RAM, speed up the CPU/GPU, and lighten the load of the OS.

herqulees said:
So I was wondering is there a lite version of CM 10.1, recommended kernels that support both overclocking and undervolting, can someone explain how to make a swap partition on the SD card, and so on, just any ways to free up RAM, speed up the CPU/GPU, and lighten the load of the OS.
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"Light version": do it yourself with a root-enabled explorer. Google and you'll know what system apps can be deleted.
OC&UV kernel: Nitest maybe.
Swap: IDK
Free up RAM and speed up: I personally use Autostarts and Advanced Task Killer (Pro), but Greenify seems easier to use. You get ~80MB free RAM after a clean install, but can get 190~220MB after heavily using these. I don't use gapps so YMMV.
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AndyYan said:
"Light version": do it yourself with a root-enabled explorer. Google and you'll know what system apps can be deleted.
OC&UV kernel: Nitest maybe.
Swap: IDK
Free up RAM and speed up: I personally use Autostarts and Advanced Task Killer (Pro), but Greenify seems easier to use. You get ~80MB free RAM after a clean install, but can get 190~220MB after heavily using these. I don't use gapps so YMMV.
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I've already deleted every system app I'm comfortable removing using Root Uninstaller. After having everything I have to have installed on the phone, with as many apps set to not run in the background that I can and Greenify helping too, I tend to have 10-70MB of RAM free, it tends to be 15-35MB free though. I don't use task killers since all they do is play cat and mouse and waste battery, and tried a few auto start managers but can't really get into using it with how complicated they are. Right now the main thing I want to figure out is getting a swap partition up and running since that sounds the most promising with how little RAM this phone has.

Did a backup and switched to the nitest-0721 kernel and so far it's doing good. Disappointed the OC only goes up to 1.2GHz but it's better than nothing (don't understand kernels that limit how much you can OC when it's up to you to find how much your phone can OC), hopefully I can find a way to get it to go higher, and the "voodoo color" is weird but I can install a different version of the kernel to remove that if my eyes don't adjust first. Anyways... my free RAM now stays between 100-200MB, usually about 160MB, with 18% zRAM, purging of assets, and samepage merging enabled which is amazing. Apps are opening faster and don't stutter anywhere near as much as before, so I'm happy but will see how things go tonight when I go to work and am playing with it on and off, along with need to find a way to really overclock it.

herqulees said:
EDIT: *lighter, forgot to check spelling. Lol
So my Evo 3D has finally called it quits and I have one month left till I leave Sprint so my friend gave me this phone that he doesn't use any more. For such an old phone I really can't complain about it, compared to my Evo 3D which runs CM 10.1 too it never crashes, always has GPS, 3G, 4G working fine and the battery lasts me all day. So I'm in love. But my one and only issue is it is extremely slow. And no I will not leave CM 10.1 as I use Google Now very often but if their are huge differences/opportunities for huge differences I'll go down as low as CM 10 or a different 4.0+ ROM.
So I was wondering is there a lite version of CM 10.1, recommended kernels that support both overclocking and undervolting, can someone explain how to make a swap partition on the SD card, and so on, just any ways to free up RAM, speed up the CPU/GPU, and lighten the load of the OS.
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Try going with one of didhiy's nitest kernels and maybe a different AOSP ROM, like AOKP, PAC, etc. Or try out SuperNexus even. That's an extremely lightweight ROM with no customization options (Its straight up stock Android, just like a brand new Nexus phone), but its fast and quite stable from what I remember.
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Or find one of didhiy's nutest kernels, those have live oc, more free ram, and i believe it goes to 1.4 GHz. I'm not sure though. But it is less stable than nitest
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Well I've run this kernel for a week or so now with the smartassv2 governor and min/max at 100/1200MHz. Zero reboots unless I'm playing Minecraft the entire phone locks up other than the button lights, no matter what I do it crashes sooner or later but oh well I'm bored of that game just wanted to see if it'd play on this phone. ANYWAYS I've heard of it being done before but can't find any info on how to do it, how can I overclock past what the kernel allows (1.2GHz), I've seen reports of this phone handling 1.5GHz and want to see if I can reach 1.4.

herqulees said:
Well I've run this kernel for a week or so now with the smartassv2 governor and min/max at 100/1200MHz. Zero reboots unless I'm playing Minecraft the entire phone locks up other than the button lights, no matter what I do it crashes sooner or later but oh well I'm bored of that game just wanted to see if it'd play on this phone. ANYWAYS I've heard of it being done before but can't find any info on how to do it, how can I overclock past what the kernel allows (1.2GHz), I've seen reports of this phone handling 1.5GHz and want to see if I can reach 1.4.
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The frequency is still limited by the kernel...
1.5GHz is history (too unstable and hot so that devs stopped including it), and only Gingerbread/ICS custom ROMs can get that frequency via flashing corresponding Sanders/Shadow/Samurai kernels and overvolting as well, which is definitely not good.
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AndyYan said:
The frequency is still limited by the kernel...
1.5GHz is history (too unstable and hot so that devs stopped including it), and only Gingerbread/ICS custom ROMs can get that frequency via flashing corresponding Sanders/Shadow/Samurai kernels and overvolting as well, which is definitely not good.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ AOSPA 3+ 3.99
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I just seriously hate kernels that limit how high you can overclock instead of making OC options to unreachable levels letting you find your phones limits. People make kernels, roms, hacks, etc so we can get around limitations that the hardware vendors put up. So if we've managed to circumvent the manufacturers blocks why are the same people that got around them making their own blocks, they already put up silly warnings about anything you install/do could break your phone but if you're going to give that warning it needs to be true. Anyways ending my rant lol...
I know their has to be a way to edit a kernel or file to add more options since the kernel creators can't do the job themselves, it's just finding out what and where these files are. Can anyone inform me on this and give me details on how this whole system of controlling clock speed works so it can be modded?

herqulees said:
I know their has to be a way to edit a kernel or file to add more options since the kernel creators can't do the job themselves, it's just finding out what and where these files are. Can anyone inform me on this and give me details on how this whole system of controlling clock speed works so it can be modded?
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Uh, AFAIK, isn't these frequency decided only when the kernel is COMPILED (from source code)? I don't exactly know...
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