Quick question...
I have a friend with a GN and a google apps account. Google Talk is constantly throwing a error since chat is disabled on the account.
What is the danger of disabling GTalk? Cons?
I know with Google Earth if you disable it after a reboot it is re-enabled. I assume it is tied into MAPS or something that needs it so it just enables.
SO I guess is talk tied into gmail and disabling it would not work? Or would he lose functionality by disabling it?
P.S. he is not rooted or unlocked nor will he.
I remember deleting gtalk on my Sony Ericsson x8 caused a **** load of problems, I couldn't use the market or any google services. Tell him to be careful.
I don't think android let's you disable gtalk anyway.
I'm rooted and have gtalk frozen by titanium with no ill effect.
samthe2can said:
I'm rooted and have gtalk frozen by titanium with no ill effect.
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Thank you. I think ics disable and ti freezing do the same thing.
We will give it a shot.
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when i flash a rom I'm looking to delete bloatware.
I remember reading somewhere that Google Talk is tied to the apps that you download and built in Gmail, so probably not, though I can't confirm this...
I just uninstalled it via titanium backup... No problems with gmail so far.
Edit: for some reason, I wasn't able to restore talk using titanium backup. The restore option wasn't there
It is always running and am wondering if it's draining the battery.
Get autostarts from android store and disable it. But Ive read up about uninstalling it a week ago and it got mixed reactions.
Just turn it off....go in and choose settings...then uncheck auto start...the choose settings and sign out.
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Just turn it off....go in and choose settings...then uncheck auto start...the choose settings and sign out.
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I don't think that keeps it from restarting. Everytime you reboot your phone, I believe it starts up google services and gtalk is one of them. That's why if you check running services, it will show it running when your phone is done booting.
I've never removed it because I do use it but when I set gtalk to not auto start it broke autosync in my google apps (gmail, market updates, etc.)
dont get rid of it, it has adverse affects on your market. just go into google talk and turn off auto sign in and then just sign out and never go back in... you need google talk service for the market to function properly.
I have a feeling that the answer to this question will be hard reset but here goes.
I have 2 accounts on my phone. Google Apps and my other Google account.
All is good and I installed them the right way round (non G Apps account first) so that maps, marketplace etc use the right accounts.
But for some reason I have my non Google apps account setup on Google Talk and of course I want the other one. And there seems to be no way of changing this.
So any clues? Is there a way to change this (I have had a good look) or am I stuck?
Sorry, this has absolutely nothing related to your question, but how did you get Gtalk to work on your device? I got invited but was told it's only for US users? lol
GTalk is global instant messaging, are you not thinking of Google Voice?
dnlgee said:
GTalk is global instant messaging, are you not thinking of Google Voice?
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Aah crap, sorry. Big d'oh! lol
What do you have the Apps account set up for?
JohnSteveDoe said:
What do you have the Apps account set up for?
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Do you mean why do I have it?
Email, docs, calendar and so on. The usual thing you have Google Apps for.
I have the 2nd (primary) Gmail account because you need this for maps, Google Checkout (and thus marketplace) and so forth.
For now you can't use your Apps account for all other Google services
Have you tried removing the Apps account, starting GTalk, then re-adding it?
I think it's the app that's at fault really - it doesn't give you an option to select a different account.
I'd suggest though that it possibly needs to be this way, since we know GTalk and Market are somehow linked together.
Why not install another IM client for your other GTalk account?
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Dave
Try going to Settings - Applications and delete data from Google Talk Service and Google Talk Storage, see what happens.
pascanu said:
Try going to Settings - Applications and delete data from Google Talk Service and Google Talk Storage, see what happens.
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The PERFECT way to destroy Google Talk. DONT TRY IT!
foxmeister said:
I think it's the app that's at fault really - it doesn't give you an option to select a different account.
I'd suggest though that it possibly needs to be this way, since we know GTalk and Market are somehow linked together.
Dave
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I don't think it is faulty. I think is it designed this way.
A most Google services need a Gmail account. Talk, Checkout, Marketplace and so on and so on.
Google (for now) do not let you use your Google Apps account (if you have one) for these other services (although they have announced this will change)
On top of this, Android has the limitation that you cannot delete your PRIMARY Google account.
I believe the issue I am trying to deal with is tied into all of this.
If I have to do a hard reset then I will wait as Google have announced that we will soon be able to have our Google Apps account linked to all the other non apps services and you just know that just like the move from googlemail to gmail a few weeks ago, this will also need a hard reset!!!
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The PERFECT way to destroy Google Talk. DONT TRY IT!
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Would you care to explain why that would DESTROY Gtalk? AFAIK deleting data for a specific application is like hard-reseting just that one application. I've done it many times for Gmail, browser etc. (I admit, haven't done it with Gtalk and am not willing to test because I don't want to lose my settings and history). Please don't just assume, give facts.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to DESTROY an app on a non-rooted phone, or using just the options/settings Google/HTC provided.
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Would you care to explain why that would DESTROY Gtalk? AFAIK deleting data for a specific application is like hard-reseting just that one application. I've done it many times for Gmail, browser etc. (I admit, haven't done it with Gtalk and am not willing to test because I don't want to lose my settings and history). Please don't just assume, give facts.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to DESTROY an app on a non-rooted phone, or using just the options/settings Google/HTC provided.
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It doesn't DESTROY talk. I know this because I have already tried it.
It didn't fix the problem either
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It doesn't DESTROY talk. I know this because I have already tried it.
It didn't fix the problem either
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Just re-read your OP and think there is no solution for your particular situation. AFAIK Gtalk is linked to your primary gmail account (the first one you setup). It uses the same autentication and port as Market and as such they are linked much deeper than I understand (e.g. it's well known that if your Market download stalls you can solve it by loging in Gtalk).
The only solution I can think about would be to use another app for Gtalk, there are quite a few good ones on the Market.
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I don't think it is faulty. I think is it designed this way.
A most Google services need a Gmail account. Talk, Checkout, Marketplace and so on and so on.
Google (for now) do not let you use your Google Apps account (if you have one) for these other services (although they have announced this will change)
On top of this, Android has the limitation that you cannot delete your PRIMARY Google account.
I believe the issue I am trying to deal with is tied into all of this.
If I have to do a hard reset then I will wait as Google have announced that we will soon be able to have our Google Apps account linked to all the other non apps services and you just know that just like the move from googlemail to gmail a few weeks ago, this will also need a hard reset!!!
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I am able to delete google account from my desire without problems in settings...accounts&sync...
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I have the same issue.
Phone registered with personal gmail account.
Company uses google to host their email and I can not chat with anyone else in google talk.
To make it worse I have logins for some consultancies I work with and can not use those.
All I want to be able to do is select the google account to be used for a talk session.
Too much to ask?
Having more than 1 gmail account for email is not an issues , why so for talk?
Ok, as soon as I entered my title for this post, XDA showed me that it has been talked about before, but on different phones, most of which are rooted. So I feel my post differs.
I have a Verizon LTE/CDMA Android 4.0.2 completely stock Galaxy Nexus. From what I have been reading, Google Partner Setup is the reason as to why Google books/earth/movies re-enable themselves after reboot if they were disabled previously.
My question(s), Will my phone have any issues if those 3 apps are disabled, not deleted entirely, just disabled ? Will my phone have any issues if Google Partner Setup is disabled, again not deleted entirely, just disabled ? Will disabling the 3 apps and the Google Partner Setup mess with OTA updates getting to my phone successfully since technically they are all still on my phone, just disabled ?
Any help/answers are welcome.
I'm not 100% but if the OTA doesn't install just re-enable them and it should work. That's how its been on every device I've ever had.
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See, that is what i was thinking that if it doesnt install any OTA update I could just re-enable them, but what i would like to know first is if anyone has disabled Google Partner Setup before/already and can tell me exactly how it effected the Nexus.
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See, that is what i was thinking that if it doesnt install any OTA update I could just re-enable them, but what i would like to know first is if anyone has disabled Google Partner Setup before/already and can tell me exactly how it effected the Nexus.
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Is this thread dead?
I also want to know. Can I disable this service safely?
Did you set any answer?
I just froze "Google Partner Setup". Nothing bad has happened yet. If something quits working Ill post back.
Is this thread dead?
Q: IF I disable this service google partner setup, will work properly sync calendar, contacts, etc and reminder,notification for them?
any guess?
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Is this thread dead?
Q: IF I disable this service google partner setup, will work properly sync calendar, contacts, etc and reminder,notification for them?
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I found on other forum an guy saying that might be related to In app purchase.
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work properly sync calendar, contacts, reminder,notification ...
but after restart some error appear... leave it in open status
Hi i was wondering if i can freeze these builtin apps without any issues?
Earth
Email (non gmail)
Google+
News and weather
Street view
Talk
Voice dialer
Voice search
Not planning to use them ever, so i plan on freezing them or is it better to remove them?
Yes, you should be fine.
Ok thanks, how about MAPS? I dont think ill use it anytime soon, is it safe to freeze?
You can uninstall maps I think. If not, yes you can freeze
You can safely freeze and/or remove all of those. To be safe just freeze them and if you don't have any ill side affects after a couple of days then remove them.
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Freeze talk and test all features work for play (market) . Past market piggy backed off talk for account verification. If all works then good to go. All the other apk are good to go for sure
I've been sitting on this for a while but finally decided to speak up on it. I've been reading advice all over since the Froyo days that clearing Google Services Framework is a good idea to solve some play store and/or random app related problems. It is not a good idea to do this. Let me explain why:
Google Services Framework, among other things, contains device data for services like the awesome C2DM (Cloud to Device Messaging) service. What is this you ask? Well, in a nut shell, it is responsible for delivering messages from the cloud to your phone for a particular app without requiring that app to run and constantly maintain a data connection. This was introduced in Froyo (If I'm not mistaken) and helps conserve battery life. For example, Angry Birds Friends has C2DM because it will notify you of someone beating your score without the app running in the background. Angry Birds Friends does not use the on boot permission, so it needs not remain running eating up data just to receive notifications. Understand? A lot of apps are designed like this and it is a very good practice for developers who want to include notifications without needing their app to run in the background all of the time.
Clearing Google Services Framework will cause the C2DM service for every app that uses it to fail until that said app also has its data cleared and is launched and configured again (first time use). If you've ever wondered why your notifications for certain apps stop working, it was probably due to reading advice on clearing Google Services Framework to solve some other problem.
If you don't mind setting up all of your C2DM capable apps again, then go ahead and clear Google Services Framework data. However, if you have quite a few apps, like myself, then clearing it is a bad idea. I found this out a long time ago. There may also be other side effects associated with clearing Google Services Framework, but this is the one I've never seen mentioned before.
Enjoy!
Awesome info ... which leads to a dumb question:
I've never went in and cleared any framework, but I've lost notifications. I've removed and reinstalled apps, get notifications back, but then they stop again.
Is it safe to assume this is something that's been cooked into the ROM?
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Hmgrepper said:
Awesome info ... which leads to a dumb question:
I've never went in and cleared any framework, but I've lost notifications. I've removed and reinstalled apps, get notifications back, but then they stop again.
Is it safe to assume this is something that's been cooked into the ROM?
Live from the outer (S3) Galaxy, via TapaTalk ...
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I have had this problem with Facebook if I restore with titanium. I always have to do a clean install for it to notify me...
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To add on to this, here's what Google engineer Dan Morrill had to say about clearing the Google Services Framework data on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ear_data_for_google_service_framework/cdiymrp
In short, as the OP had said, it's definitely not a good idea to clear the GSF data.
Good to know. Thanks for the informative post!
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N00B_IN_N33D said:
To add on to this, here's what Google engineer Dan Morrill had to say about clearing the Google Services Framework data on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ear_data_for_google_service_framework/cdiymrp
In short, as the OP had said, it's definitely not a good idea to clear the GSF data.
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lol i have cleared the data
now pls help that how to return to og service framework
That checks. Doing this removed my device from the play store and I had to do a soft reset with the keypad
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Hmmm, that's crazy
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C2DM? It seems this is what was used before, but I think things have changed in Android ever since. I'm not an expert or anything, but recent apps are relying on GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) for notifications. The problem is that (to my understanding) GCM comes with Google Play Services and not Google Services Framework. To the point where not only Google Apps need Google Play Services, but other non-Google related apps require it for notifications (such as Facebook's Messenger). So maybe nowadays, clearing data on the Google Services Framework might not imply notification-related problems.
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C2DM? It seems this is what was used before, but I think things have changed in Android ever since. I'm not an expert or anything, but recent apps are relying on GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) for notifications. The problem is that (to my understanding) GCM comes with Google Play Services and not Google Services Framework. To the point where not only Google Apps need Google Play Services, but other non-Google related apps require it for notifications (such as Facebook's Messenger). So maybe nowadays, clearing data on the Google Services Framework might not imply notification-related problems.
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I cleaned the Google service frame work
What should I do know to not arise any effects
Any solution?