So tomorrow my phone arrives! Yay! I read some things about how the nexus doesn't support mass storage. Is this true? Sorry if this topic has been made a thousand times already but I'm on my phone so I can't do a forms search.
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It is my understanding that the GNex uses MTP which is another transfer protocol.
Essentially, instead of having activate mass storage mode, like with UMS (USB Mass Storage Mode) your GNex will already be in "mass storage mode" and anything you load on the phone should automatically propogate to the phone in real time.
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Dan
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It does a little. So can I copy files from my Mac to my nexus or not? I am confused.
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You should be able to transfer from any computer (including your Mac) to/ from your Gnex.
Essentially, it uses a different protocol to communicate, but to you it should work about the same.
Dan
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The Galaxy nexus doesn't support USB mass storage.
Android File Transfer is what google suggests that you use.I find it to be a bit buggy on OSx, but it may be fine on other platforms.
Alt Mounter mounts your sdcard similar to what USB Mass storage did on other devices.
They both have their quirks. If you are familiar with using adb through a terminal, that might be the most reliable method.
Amphibliam said:
It does a little. So can I copy files from my Mac to my nexus or not? I am confused.
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Android File Transfer app works just fine on OSX. Connect the phone and drag/drop to or from. No mounting or ejecting. Just use it.
The GNex can't do UMS because there's no separate SDcard or partition. Its all one solid storage. Its a much better implementation.
I am very comfortable with adb and osx makes it easy. What commands do I use. I'm guessing something like "adb mtp (file name)"
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Amphibliam said:
I am very comfortable with adb and osx makes it easy. What commands do I use. I'm guessing something like "adb mtp (file name)"
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Uhh. You can just use ./adb push and ./adb pull if you want, but just use the Android File Transfer app. It works just fine.
OK. Cool
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First off: UMS/MSC is USB Mass Storage/Mass Storage Class
This is something I've been working on. We don't have UMS. And, I want UMS. Google/Samsung's reasoning was they didn't want to make us choose between internal storage for apps, and external storage for music.
The one flaw that comes with this is that we lose UMS. UMS requires a block device that can be unmounted from the phone and mounted to the host machine (Windows/Linux/Mac).
We can get this back relatively easy I believe without re partitioning our phones. I don't want to play with partition tables, because there isn't an easy way that I know of to restore it to stock.
To get technical: /sdcard on the Nexus is just a symlink to /data/media. We can break that symlink, modify the fstab and init.rc to mount an image file to /sdcard, then modify vold to allow us to mount that image file to windows. The downside: we'd lose what google/samsung thought was an amazing idea: not making us choose between sdcard storage and internal app storage.
I guess why I'm posting this: is anyone interested enough for me to actually do this?
What exactly is the benefit? Could you explain?
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lonnyrs said:
What exactly is the benefit? Could you explain?
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Sounds like a ext but to the sdcard instead of the data partition..
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sounds interesting! the convenience of having UMS is definitely missed. as long as everything functioned "normally" I'd do it.
Yes please! Especially if u can do it so that it'll also work in clockwork, might be easier. It would make everyone's life easier, and I bet a lot of devs would end up baking it in to their roms!
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If I am reading this correctly this would essentially make that folder act like it would under an external SD card meaning once I mounted it to windows I would lose all access until unmounting it from windows?
More options are always good, but honestly I've gotten used to MTP and not having to mount and remount as well as not having to worry about swapping between internal storage and sdcard. I say do it just so we have options as users, but I'm not really sure I'd use it over the current methods.
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If I am reading this correctly this would essentially make that folder act like it would under an external SD card meaning once I mounted it to windows I would lose all access until unmounting it from windows?
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You got it. You could even use the folder as /sdcard and programs wouldn't know the difference.
zifnab06 said:
You got it. You could even use the folder as /sdcard and programs wouldn't know the difference.
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This would be very very nice for Linux users as mtp can be a pain to transfer files with. And adb isn't exactly the fastest for large files.
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Great idea. Mtp sucks
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Would love this to use with my MacBook Pro.
I'd use it.
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Yes pleaseeeeee!!!!!!!
You should work for Google. I think that's how they should've shipped the phone.
Great idea. That would make device recognition much easier in Linux. It's a real pain trying to get it to pick up GN on Debian. If you get it working maybe I can have your permission to use it in my git for my rom compilation?
Be nice, current method with Macs is painful.
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cricketsmoke said:
Be nice, current method with Macs is painful.
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i agree its no picnic. but its better then nothing
Pithism said:
i agree its no picnic. but its better then nothing
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Whats the problem with it? I got a Mac and I have no issues, it's quite easy in fact.
franciscofranco said:
Whats the problem with it? I got a Mac and I have no issues, it's quite easy in fact.
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i dont mind it either, i just rather it mount like a sd card. so it actually mounts like a Hard Drive
Yes thanks in advance
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I know MTP is supposed to just work in Windows, but it doesn't do anything for me. My PC thinks I have attached a camera. I can open said camera and see only 2 folders (no names) but they are the DCIM folder and a folder called "Android" with some sub garbage folders under them. How do I get to my folders using it? I have tried it on 4 laptops and 3 desktops and everytime I get the same results. I'd prefer to use the old mass storage option, but it seems like unless you root, you're SOL.
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Turn off usb debugging.
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rangie said:
Turn off usb debugging.
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Really? For me it's the opposite. I had the OP's issue until I turned ON USB debugging.
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Resolved - I ran a ton of windows updates and all of a sudden my system said "MTP device detected". Wonder which update it was. They were all pretty basic ones, but maybe they triggered something that repaired the service.
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Hey guys, I know im not the only Ubuntu user out there, currently im running Ubuntu 12.10 Alpha 2 and most of us know that MTP is completely broken on Ubuntu, and im currently being forced to restart into windows 7 to copy my files over MTP. I know there is Airdroid, Solid File Manager FTP which I have used, but it takes forever when I transfer 10 gigs a video and pictures each month, is there a better way to backup all my files while in Ubuntu? I'm thinking I can use ADB pull, but is there any other solutions out there? I'd rather not transfer files over wifi since its slower than a USB connection.
Can you use the cloud?
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defconoi said:
Hey guys, I know im not the only Ubuntu user out there, currently im running Ubuntu 12.10 Alpha 2 and most of us know that MTP is completely broken on Ubuntu, and im currently being forced to restart into windows 7 to copy my files over MTP. I know there is Airdroid, Solid File Manager FTP which I have used, but it takes forever when I transfer 10 gigs a video and pictures each month, is there a better way to backup all my files while in Ubuntu? I'm thinking I can use ADB pull, but is there any other solutions out there? I'd rather not transfer files over wifi since its slower than a USB connection.
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Use adb. Fast and stable transfers.
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Mount an SD card?
danger-rat said:
Mount an SD card?
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Not possible with the gnex.
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Petrovski80 said:
Not possible with the gnex.
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Yes it is. Just use an OTG cable and an SD card adapter (or thumbdrive)...
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Yes it is. Just use an OTG cable and an SD card adapter (or thumbdrive)...
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Ah yes. Thought you meant mounting the /sdcard partition of the phone as usb mass storage.
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suggestion: openssh/openssh frontends, scp/sftp
// wireless and encrypted.
I am having trouble transferring files from the computer to my Nexus 7. Root and flashing ROM went fine everything else works flawless just can't load pictures or music onto the tablet. I am currently running android 4.3 and cleanROM 1.3 on new nexus 7. It must be something simple that I am overlooking sorry if this is a stupid question I did try to research it and came up with nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Settings-storage-click menu and enable MTP
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If you want to do it remotely (way more annoying than with a cable, but once you get use to it, it can get handy)
Transfer rates can be relatively speaking, slow, but doesn't become a huge issue unless you're moving a lot of large sized files (i.e., high quality movies, a library of music etc.)
I use SSHDroid with WinSCP (For windows).
If you run Linux you don't really need WinSCP.
Using this method requires a little know-how with SSH / SCP to get optimal use out of this method.
Also, as a side note, your files are transmitted relatively safely (i.e., it's encrypted).
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Settings-storage-click menu and enable MTP
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I tried that it didn't work. It is only showing up in device manager under USB camera
I use AirDroid and it works fine for me.
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Yep Airdroid is the way to go
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jab1472 said:
I tried that it didn't work. It is only showing up in device manager under USB camera
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Sure you didn't hit PTP.
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Use ADB if all else fails
i have created theme for u
install samba server and it start with one click
and you can acces file - in you Win,linux,Mac like any other folders via WIFI
How can i enable usb mass storage instead of MTP? I am using PAC rom.
Don't think you can on this phone. USB mass storage unmounts the SD card and mounts it on computer side. Can't unmount the only storage medium on the phone. Mtp allows for both computer and phone to access the storage at the same time. But if I'm wrong someone please enlighten me
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Correct
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Thanks for clarifying lol, I wasn't 100% sure
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I'm not able to access the hidden folders of my lgoI. I cant nevigate the internal memory as a whole.
Are you talking about accessing the system folders?
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Abhijeet357 said:
I'm not able to access the hidden folders of my lgoI. I cant nevigate the internal memory as a whole.
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You can't access the system folders via MTP. Only the partition mounted as the Storage/SDcard.
AFAIK, if you want to muck around the internals of the phone, you're going to need a root browser (or use a commandline tool like adb). For root browsers, I recommend the app called "Root Explorer", as well as "ROM Toolbox", but there are plenty out there.
Or adb
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Adb if you want to move something from the phone to the computer, otherwise root browser is a bit easier, at least to me
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