Want to buy a window 7 phone(tmobile) - Windows Phone 7 General

I need help picking, I love the radar 4g and the lumia 710 but they don't support micro SD card!(8g of memory won't work for me). Im thinking about getting the dvp(dell venue pro) but I need some window phone owner input!.
Don't want to purchase an unlock phone due to me not being able to use 3G or 4G.
I will be purchasing this phone second hand due to the fact window 8 phone around the corner just want to spend sometime with a window phone to see how it goes! Thanks
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There's a good thread here that is worth reading.
If you decide to get a DVP, make sure you are familiar with the process before changing the micro SD card - there are lots of threads about this topic on the DVP forum. You can expand the capacity to 32GB by replacing the micro SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=799
There are different versions of the DVP for AT&T and T-Mobile. It may not matter as much if you can't use 3G but worth mentioning.

The DVP was my second wp7 device and after they fixed all of the bugs was a major love affair. Had Nokia not brought such outstanding offerings to the table, I'd still be using the DVP, that thing was a beautiful tank.

Look on Craigslist for an HD7...you can upgrade to 32GB and it has the latest software...unless T-Mo comes out with something slick, I'll be rocking this for quite a while!

Will be looking into both device. Anyone else want to put in there two cents?
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My vote goes to the DVP. I get the privilege of using a lot of devices, and after Mango the DVP is still my favourite WP7 device. It's heavy and the camera is pretty mediocre, but it oozes quality and is the only portrait QWERTY slider available. Helps that the keyboard is awesome, too!
Also, they're very cheap these days. Especially the T-Mobile banded ones.

The DVP looks really boss. I didn't get one basically because I was unsure about the presence of the Italian locale and the 256mbs of RAM got me worried. Also, I didn't really rely on Dell's commitment to WP7, so I was unsure about the update pattern. The 710 is a good and reliable phone too, it has Nokia goods on board and the screen is actually ok. The design is a little uninspiring tho. Just personal opinion, my gf actually likes it better than my 800, she finds it too squared 0.o
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What do you think of the hd7?
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BeEazy10 said:
What do you think of the hd7?
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It's a solid phone but it's definitely outdated. The screen looks quite washed out and it's not really lightweight IMHO.
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How about the blackberry phone, lots of people is using them.

Not really a BB fan, but I'm thinking about purchasing a dell venue pro or HD7. Leaning more towards the venue
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How about the blackberry phone, lots of people is using them.
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IMHO they use it only because they are very accustomed to it. Last summer I tried using a 9780 for a few days and coming from a Desire I found it the most painful phone experience I ever had. The interface is unintuitive as hell, you need to hit the keys dozens of times just to do things that can be done in a couple of taps even on the worse Symbian device. The browser is pathetic, everything keeps lagging and freezing 24/7 and there are no decent apps at all. Also, if you lack BIS and BES this phone is as good as a 3310. Lame, horrid experience. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it's a nightmare. Maybe the newer phones (like the 9900) are better, but forget about having any support: they won't be updated to BBOS10, and probably RIM will manage to fail even before the end of 2012.
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vnvman said:
IMHO they use it only because they are very accustomed to it. Last summer I tried using a 9780 for a few days and coming from a Desire I found it the most painful phone experience I ever had. The interface is unintuitive as hell, you need to hit the keys dozens of times just to do things that can be done in a couple of taps even on the worse Symbian device. The browser is pathetic, everything keeps lagging and freezing 24/7 and there are no decent apps at all. Also, if you lack BIS and BES this phone is as good as a 3310. Lame, horrid experience. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it's a nightmare. Maybe the newer phones (like the 9900) are better, but forget about having any support: they won't be updated to BBOS10, and probably RIM will manage to fail even before the end of 2012.
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Lmao that deserve a thanks.
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The HD7 is a solid phone,I've been rocking it since November. Only problem I have with it is if I'm in my house or bedroom especially when trying to stream something, if I put my hand anywhere near the base my connection drops to 2G. Probably has something to do with the trees around my brick house or the poor antenna in the phone.

should i go for the dell venue pro and ditch the Mytouch 4G Slide?

BeEazy10 said:
should i go for the dell venue pro and ditch the Mytouch 4G Slide?
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Tbh, I don't care what WP you get as long as you ditch that POS android. That's the important thing.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
Tbh, I don't care what WP you get as long as you ditch that POS android. That's the important thing.
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LMFAO understood!

Before i buy this phone will my current SIM card work with the dell venue pro?

Yes, of course, assuming you don't buy one that is SIM-locked to a different carrier for some reason.
Note that if you want lots of hacks, the Venue Pro is not a good choice. As far as I know, we haven't even managed to interop-unlock it yet. The HD7 (and most other gen1 phones, but not the Venue Pro) can use custom ROMs and WP7 Root Tools.

GoodDayToDie said:
Yes, of course, assuming you don't buy one that is SIM-locked to a different carrier for some reason.
Note that if you want lots of hacks, the Venue Pro is not a good choice. As far as I know, we haven't even managed to interop-unlock it yet. The HD7 (and most other gen1 phones, but not the Venue Pro) can use custom ROMs and WP7 Root Tools.
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I'm okay with that. Thanks for the heads up. I purchased the phone, cost me 150. Should be here by Saturday
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WP7 phones coming to Sprint?

Anyone know of any upcoming WP7 phones coming to Sprint... WP7 becomes more and more appealing everyday, love to know if anyone has seen anything that has been leaked.
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Anyone know of any upcoming WP7 phones coming to Sprint... WP7 becomes more and more appealing everyday, love to know if anyone has seen anything that has been leaked.
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haven't heard of anything man... im on Sprint too, anxious to see what next gen devices we get.
Nothing new for this year.
Too bad whatever phone they do get will be crippled by the extremely slow network. Its soo terrible trying to do anything on it before 2am. I'm cancelling my contract with them this week and going to t-mobile. I've had enough.
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T mobile is no better. I've actually had a better experience with Sprint
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Look in a web search there's millions of complaints of slow speeds with sprint, especially on their forums. Can't say the same for Tmobile it was declared the 2nd fastest network by PCMag only being beaten by VZs 4G LTe.
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Well hopefully I can get the Nokia ace on tmobile
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937dytboi said:
T mobile is no better. I've actually had a better experience with Sprint
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Yeah, I'd disagree with that... T-Mobile has been waaaaay better in regards to Sprint in my area at least. I tether my Sprint iPhone to my T-Mobile Android phone when I want good speeds, lol!
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/r...t-three-windows-phones-in-first-half-of-2012/
This is the only rumor I know saying sprint will get new windows phone.
Sprint is so busy trying to hang from the ball sack of the iPhone; for some reason they went the route of Verizon with promoting their Android phones and now iPhone, like Verizon they only have one Windows Phone and don't promote it much. WTF is next? Sprint will start trying to ditch Windows Phone?
Tmobile may work good in your area. But where i olive its terrible and many other people in my area agree. But it has to be the worst cell phone provider in my area that I've experience.
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I want a Windows Phone bad, but the arrive has been out to long and is the only option available on sprint. I really hope that some new windows phones come to sprint soon. Would love to see Nokia 900 come to sprint.
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I want a Windows Phone bad, but the arrive has been out to long and is the only option available on sprint. I really hope that some new windows phones come to sprint soon. Would love to see Nokia 900 come to sprint.
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Yeah I'm really hoping Sprint gets a new windows phone.Hopefully it wont just be one with 1GHZ Process(like the radar) and will be 1.4ghz or 1.5ghz.
I've been sitting on a upgrade since April of 2011. All I want is either a 4" plus Samsung or HTC phone and I will sign a new contract on the first day.
Somehow, I got got the itchy feeling that more than one new Windows Phones are coming to Sprint.
I would not sleep on the Arrive if you can pick one up for a good price like I did on EBay. I am one that started with the first iPhone when it came out and eventually made my to Android and swore by it ever since. I currently have the Motorola Photon 4G but was really interested in taking a Windows 7 phone for a spin so I picked up the Arrive. Man the Arrive is faster than my Photon. Now yes I do not get 4G with the Arrive but I can barely get 4G anyway. These Mango phones are awesome. It also came down to since someone brought up age that I really needed workwise to stop dicking around with gaming ability and the number of apps available (I can use my Asus TF for that ) and look at smartphone functionality. If your in business like myself the Windows phone is the way to go and the HTC Arrive is a damn good phone for now. You can find them off contract for great prices to get you by until the new hardware hits the street.
I love my Arrive so much that I picked up one for my girlfriend for a penny during the holiday sales and got a cheap used one from eBay with a bad ESN so my daughter could use it as an over-glorified Zune. With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade if a newer unit was released with a larger screen and more storage. I could care less about processor speed since WP7 seems to run equally well on all current hardware.
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I love my Arrive so much that I picked up one for my girlfriend for a penny during the holiday sales and got a cheap used one from eBay with a bad ESN so my daughter could use it as an over-glorified Zune. With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade if a newer unit was released with a larger screen and more storage. I could care less about processor speed since WP7 seems to run equally well on all current hardware.
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Yeah I also have the HTC Arrive(Got it in April) and love the phone so much.But I have a upgrade in March 2012 and really want a window phone with more storage(I also use my htc arrive as a zune player and with only have about 6gb left).
I have the arrive as well, I love the phone other than a few bugs that it has.
I really want something thinner, with a bigger screen and no keyboard. The on screen keyboard works great.
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I have the arrive as well, I love the phone other than a few bugs that it has.
I really want something thinner, with a bigger screen and no keyboard. The on screen keyboard works great.
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I actually love that the Arrive has a keyboard.The perfect windows phone for me would be a 4 inch screen with a full qwerty keyboard.Basically a windows phone version of the Samsung Captivate Glide.

Galaxy nexus beat windows phone

World demands justice for Galaxy Nexus owner who 'beat' Windows Phone
I knew we had a fast phone and this proves it.
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Huh?
Sent from the future.
Thread of the decade.
http://www.talkandroid.com/102027-galaxy-nexus-owner-beats-windows-phone-in-windows-phone-challenge/
I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
But this pissing contest **** has got to stop.
Why can't people except that in some areas on different OS's will always be better. Some hardware specs will always be better. That's life. Personally? I root for a three horse race. Each OS, Android, iOS, and WP all pushing and pulling to stay ahead.
The end result? The consumer wins.
Bravo sir.. bravo
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I am a Windows developer and I don't like metro stuff at all. Guess we are going to get stuck with it but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...
I LOVE MY GNEX!
Does anyone actually by Windows Phones?
I think Microsoft really dropped the ball. They were one of the few in the mobile smartphone game with their windows mobile platform. It was a true multitasking device that was capable of doing almost anything.
Then the iPhone came out and basically did less then WM phones just made things prettier. Know instead of Microsoft stepping up their game with their age looking UI they just hung back for a while.
Then came Android, which almost feels like it would have been the natural succession for Microsoft except they just waited. So all of us WM phone users started to jump over to Android. Now we are so happy there, why would we want to even try a Windows phone.
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but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...
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So, how many Windows Shell replacements have you done? Because you're basically forced into the current Windows look.
I agree, I hate metro, too, but you've been 'forced into a UI' for a long time.
im going to try this, any tips to which rom to use?
"no the gsII is faster"
bmstrong said:
I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
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you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?
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you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?
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Yep. At any given time I tend to have three or so and swap back and forth. Right now? Main EDC is a stock GN with a back up 4s. The 900 is my next and I'm considering a SGS3. If the SGS3 has TW puked onto it, that's out. I sell the 4s and move into the 5. If I find a Titan 2 cheap I may grab one to play with it. (Forgot to mention I'm still looking for a Finny.)
I love Mobiles.
I had an interesting 'battle' with a windows rep today. I beat her hands down loading a webpage. She wasn't very happy.
But she did beat me updating a Facebook status.
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HTC Radar vs This Phone

Hey guys, before you say this is in the wrong forum, I'm trying to get a standpoint on people who use THIS PHONE. I would appreciate it if you only answer if you have this phone and a windows phone 7.5 you can compare with. I just got my Radar today because the Windows Phone Challenge (Phones came in today) and I'm contemplating which to use as my primary phone right now.
I got the radar for my sister a few months back. I like it. A lot of times I wish I had my own windows phone to use on and off. The gs2 has always just been an ok phone to me. If you have them both you will prob be switching on and off just cause you can. Both equally nice for daily use.
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I got the radar for my sister a few months back. I like it. A lot of times I wish I had my own windows phone to use on and off. The gs2 has always just been an ok phone to me. If you have them both you will prob be switching on and off just cause you can. Both equally nice for daily use.
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Yeah, I was thinking something like 1 week Radar, 1 week S2. A bit tacky but seems ok I just wish I could have two SIM cards with the same number so I don't have to switch them.
Bump. Need more opinions.
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I actually did this with an old phone too, and have a radar and this but leant the radar to a buddy. The radar is nice. Extremely user friendly, and all about simplicity. Before I got my gs2 I was rocking the hd2 with windows 7 also before I caught the android bug.
If your not a rom addict like everyone else here windows is the way to go. No headaches, about keeping up to date with the most current software.
The tiles on the windows phone and UI is just a genius idea imo and I'm liking the direction windows is headed. Music controls and web surfing is also a breeze.
I just cannot part with my gs2 strictly because of the screen size, and fun I'm having tweaking, customizing and trying new roms though.
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This one is better
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Bump. Need more opinions.
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I do not see why, it all depends on which one you like better.

Windows Surface Phone.. would you?

If MSFT were to enter the WP8 game with Windows Surface Phone or MSFT Surface Phones range would you buy it?
Just a wild wild dream.. because:
a) The launch of surface range has created a buzz on even iForums and DroidForums.
b) The tech guys generally have liked it
c) It has met the hype
d) It looks sexy and we know it will perform much better than we think
e) Windows branding might be the reason for no traction, Surface branding seems to be taken positively
so.. could Windows Phone 8 be the Microsoft Surface Phones? or just Surface Phones?
PS: I love the Surfaces (will get one on the release day!) and whole heartedly hope the new new new iPad doesn't copy Surface and come up with the same and better pad.
Why do we know it will work better than we think?
Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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makoute said:
Why do we know it will work better than we think?
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because...
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Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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^^ That.
I don't care what they call it. All I'm hoping for tomorrow is the tiles with the ability to change their sizes, and the tiles with real information like the mail tile in Windows 8.
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I don't necessarily know if I'd go for the Surface, but I am excited for a Win8 tablet from Nokia.
Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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Don't get me wrong... I'm thrilled about Surface
I would just prefer a Nokia... I like the aesthetics they design.
I'm definately tempted by the RT version of Surface especially if it gets priced correctly
There is one important difference between "Surface" Devices by Microsoft and "Nexus" Devices by Google. The Nexus devices have the benefit of being updated more regularly and earlier than competitors devices. It is highly unlikely that Microsoft will push update to their devices earlier. For Windows 8 it is a given that those will get Updates the same time everyone else does (second tuesday every month) and WinRT is likely to do it the same way.
And as Microsoft succeeded at least with Mango to push it worldwide around the same time I guess they would not stray from that path with new Windows Phones.
Given the partnership between Microsoft and Nokia I believe they will be relying on Nokia for their lead devices, given that Nokia has an All In Approach to the OS.
So I don't see it happening and if it were it would be a really good question why I would go with the Surface Phone instead of a Nokia (unless they build something that blows a PureView Nokia out of the water).
they gonna charge $600 and $800 for the thing... i think it is a way better deal than an iPad.
http://wmpoweruser.com/digitimes-microsoft-surface-rt-to-be-599-surface-pro-799/
I am looking at Samsung Slate Series also. They had some quite "wow" device at the Windows 8 Release Preview Launch.
keynote
watch the keynote from 13:30 to 14:30.
either the hardware is underperforming or the software is still beta.
neat concept. too bad about the bootloader.
Its still Beta, even the consumer preview has some major quirks.
One big issue is gaming and swiping, swipe anywhere near the top of the screen and you'll bring up the multi tasking window, thus ruining your game.
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I am looking it in a way what Steve said "Harmony of software with hardware". Can Nokia really know better hardware for MSFT software than MSFT itself? They are only partners after all. Also, am I the only one who thinks Surface devices are going to stand out in the sea of Lumias? However, Nokia do come up with plenty of classy designs from time to time.
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I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I have to say this, WP7 was a complete disgrace, especially the launch OS.
With WP8 competition can really begin
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I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"
anseio said:
I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"
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Oh boy... i know what i want for Christmas this year... and now is all about what OEM can bring to us.
I was saving for a unlocked Galaxy Nexus, not anymore.
Bye Bye Android, it was fun. Back to my original love.
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Guys please post all the links you can find.
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Another goodbye thread

You guys have been hella help. Yesterday I traded in my gs3 for a Lumina 920. You guys have been a big help. This windows is going to take some getting used to but it is very fluid and amazing. Thanks guys for all your help. I will be back to android to get the wife a nexus 4. This Lumina 920 was 450 off contract. And the nexus 350. Awesome deals!
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Why would you trade those? Lack of apps on its own is enough for majority of people to stay away from Windows phone in current state, unless factory installed apps is sufficient for you
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Maybe he just wanted to try something different. Good luck with the new phone! I was also thinking about trying it out at some point.
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A good OS isn't good because of the number of apps. If that was the case I would prefer ios over Android.
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I said I traded it in but what I meant to say was I traded it in at nest buy got 250 credit then put 20p with it
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He will be back you'll see thats a ****y OS Period been there done that...
That Lumia seems like a nice phone...but its so heavy
I had a lumia 900 (well, technically still have it) and really liked the speed and fluidity of Windows Mobile. I think it is an excellent OS. I also think that the OP will enjoy having both OS's on hand to tinker with. I have iOS, WM and Android here and they are all fun to play with in their own right. Nothing wrong with trying the latest and greatest from a competitor out. :good:
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I had a lumia 900 (well, technically still have it) and really liked the speed and fluidity of Windows Mobile. I think it is an excellent OS. I also think that the OP will enjoy having both OS's on hand to tinker with. I have iOS, WM and Android here and they are all fun to play with in their own right. Nothing wrong with trying the latest and greatest from a competitor out. :good:
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each has their own charms, i just got an S3 after weighing my options(and carrier limitations)..and am quite pleased with My S3...WP8 just didnt have what i needed, but maybe next year
paniro187 said:
A good OS isn't good because of the number of apps. If that was the case I would prefer ios over Android.
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...has-just-as-many-apps-as-ios-report-suggests/
I just bought a 920 as well. It is a pretty impressive phone so far. It takes some getting used but the lack of apps is the shot in the foot for that os. The live tiles is great imo. I am returning it cuz it made me miss my gs3 so much! I bounce between phones all the time but the gs3 is the only android i ever really fell in love with.
Yeah I really dint miss the flashing and constant. "what doesn't or does work" daily debacle. I will say this......this Nokia must have waaaaaay better radios. Data is a beast on this phone as well as GPS locks and such. And every app i
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Good luck! I had a WP7 phone and it just wasn't enough for my needs (limited apps on the app store being one of the major factors), but I do miss the stability and fluidity of that OS... if all you're looking for is a basic smartphone, Windows phones are actually really nice... Of course, most everyone here is looking to hack or modify their phone in some way, and for that, Windows phones kinda suck.
I wanna try Windows phones again. The last one I had was an old HTC one. I'm worried that I won't like it though.
Stock ICS on my S3
One Word: Microsoft
GF Has samsung focus windows phone 7. I couldn't ever switch to it. But hopefully windows phone 8 will gain in popularity.
Good luck.

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