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[Q] should i sell my Gnex ?

Hey guys,
iam thinking of selling my galaxy nexus and buying one of the new quad core devices,
i was really excited about the new coming Huawei Ascend D quad since it will features the fastest CPU and a 16 core GPU. However, i have recently heard that it will be delayed because of some issues with the CPU until late Augest or September.
i already have a Sony Xperia S and after a small comparison between them in term of screen, camera, build quality, CPU/GPU i think that the other device was slightly better, i have already found a buyer but i still hesitate because the Gnex will get Android 4.1 and 5.x before any other device out there.
so, what do you think guys??
sorry for my poor English

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theking_13 said:
Do what you want to. Move on.
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The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now

mohammed510 said:
The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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kevinjgray88 said:
If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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Because i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation of CPU/GPU was a mistake and i am trying to correct it by selling one of them and keeping the other one and wait for new and better devices.
I cant decide weather i should sell one of them or keep both of them
The Sony Xperia S has a wonderful screen and the Gnex will get the updates faster

mohammed510 said:
The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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joshnichols189 said:
The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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I didn't know that, i only know that the S3 has a pentile screen just like the Gnex
If you check Wikipedia you will find that Exynos 5 CPU which should be better than the current Exynos quad spotted @ the galaxy S3 will be available at Q2 of 2012
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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iLeopard said:
What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again

mohammed510 said:
Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again
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Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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iLeopard said:
Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
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This is correct for the current quad core cortex-A9 CPUs
However, things will be different with quad core cortex-A15 CPUs since they are so efficient
nVidia tegra 3 has 4 + 1 CPU, so they are telling us that . Our CPU is not so efficient since it was built on 40 nm and that's why we need one underclocked CPU to save battrey for the background process, people like woooow this device has 5 cores !!!!! Iam going to buy it now but they don't really know the truth about it
In other words.. we will have "real" quad core CPUs with a cortex-A15 in term of battery efficient and speed

It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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kevinjgray88 said:
It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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Well, i respect your opinion and thanks for the one star rating.
However, i like to "learn" from my mistakes,
As i said before, i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation was a mistake
And that was not going to be happened if i asked people how knows about phones more than me before buying the second identical peice of plastic.
There is no harm in asking people for help and then make my own choice.
That's why we have this section, to "ask" other people
To get some informations from them
And then to make our choice

iLeopard said:
Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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When apps become multithreaded it will have more practical use. And what? The four cores don't always fire. Battery on my S3 blows away battery on my nexus and it is only 100mah larger than the extended battery.
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If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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You should watch professionally done review videos/articles and see for yourself. Here are few.
www.phonedog.com
www.gsmarena.com
www.androidcentral.com

theking_13 said:
If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time

I wouldn't worry about it.

mohammed510 said:
My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time
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No ones the bad guy in here. Simply put, whether you know it or not, chances are you've already made up your mind and like others have said, you are just looking for justification for whatever you are about to do. That simple. Whatever responses you get here are completely biased and might not reflect on your way of thinking.
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you seem to have a lot of money so just keep both and buy a new one.

Should I sell my gs3 and buy the Note 2?

I'm thinking about selling my galaxy 3 to buy the Note 2. What do you all think?
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if you tell us your zodiacal sign also we might be able to guess what you should do

awesomedeals88 said:
I'm thinking about selling my galaxy 3 to buy the Note 2. What do you all think?
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its all a matter of opinion really
I had the note 1, went to the galaxy nexus then now the S3, I saw that while i liked the pen, the screen was large enough for quick things but not large enough to be a really effective pen based device...
so I'll probably get the note 10.1 for a good pen based device vs the smaller screen...
good luck on your decision!

I was thinking the same thing for awhile now.. I let me know why you do
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awesomedeals88 said:
I'm thinking about selling my galaxy 3 to buy the Note 2. What do you all think?
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I would say yes if you want the next version of Android. It starts out with JB out of the box. And the S3 only has ICS as of right now.
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lazarat said:
if you tell us your zodiacal sign also we might be able to guess what you should do
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This was funny.
Depends preference.... want the size and spen? Personally its too big for me.
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leyvatron said:
This was funny.
Depends preference.... want the size and spen? Personally its too big for me.
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That's what she said ! Lol jk
And no don't sell s3
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awesomedeals88 said:
I'm thinking about selling my galaxy 3 to buy the Note 2. What do you all think?
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Well It's a definite upgrade from the galaxy s3 for many reasons such as:
- Bigger battery, the note 2 has a 3100mah battery
- Gorgeous display, unlike the s3 the note 2 doesn't use the pentile matrix giving it an improved display
- S pen, some like it some don't but the point is that it's there
- More features, if you watch videos on youtube you will see that the note 2 has more features packed into it that the s3 doesn't, such as multi windows, which is basically true multitasking.
So if you don't mind the bigger screen then I would definitely recommend it.

theboss23 said:
Well It's a definite upgrade from the galaxy s3 for many reasons such as:
- Bigger battery, the note 2 has a 3100mah battery
- Gorgeous display, unlike the s3 the note 2 doesn't use the pentile matrix giving it an improved display
- S pen, some like it some don't but the point is that it's there
- More features, if you watch videos on youtube you will see that the note 2 has more features packed into it that the s3 doesn't, such as multi windows, which is basically true multitasking.
So if you don't mind the bigger screen then I would definitely recommend it.
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You do not know what you are talking about lol. Those software feautures can easily be ported to our device and not really an upgrade since that quad core cpu is still using the old technology and as it regards the battery you gotta make a ratio comparison battery size/screen size and then say if it is an upgrade or not.
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leyvatron said:
This was funny.
Depends preference.... want the size and spen? Personally its too big for me.
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But seriously opening a thread asking us to tell him what to choose without even saying what he likes or what he doesnt like...how else can we tell him other than reading the horoscope

lazarat said:
You do not know what you are talking about lol. Those software feautures can easily be ported to our device and not really an upgrade since that quad core cpu is still using the old technology and as it regards the battery you gotta make a ratio comparison battery size/screen size and then say if it is an upgrade or not.
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Well let's go ahead and assume someone ports the features to our phones, that still leaves 3 (possibly more) features that the note 2 has that the galaxy s3 doesn't. If you look online and watch reviews you will hear that the note 2 has amazing battery life even with heavy usage, and you will also find that the display in fact does not use the pentile matrix, therefore it is technically an upgrade from the s3.

theboss23 said:
Well let's go ahead and assume someone ports the features to our phones, that still leaves 3 (possibly more) features that the note 2 has that the galaxy s3 doesn't. If you look online and watch reviews you will hear that the note 2 has amazing battery life even with heavy usage, and you will also find that the display in fact does not use the pentile matrix, therefore it is technically an upgrade from the s3.
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They used to say the same when note one came out and battery life sucked. I do not need to read reviews online just go to the note 2 forum and read all complaints about battery life. As it regards the screen difference you would not notice any difference if they didnt tell you which is which. Anyway to each their own.

lazarat said:
They used to say the same when note one came out and battery life sucked. I do not need to read reviews online just go to the note 2 forum and read all complaints about battery life. As it regards the screen difference you would not notice any difference if they didnt tell you which is which. Anyway to each their own.
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Well I actually went to the note 2 forum and I did not see any complaints about battery life, I also googled "galaxy note 2 bad battery life" and I did not get any results of a person complaining about battery life so I'm going to go ahead and say based on facts/research the note 2 has good/great battery life. As far as the screen goes it is noticeable, and regardless of whether you notice a difference or not it's there none the less and is technically an upgrade. Look at it this way, if someone were to offer you a galaxy s3 with a screen that didn't use the pentile matrix and had a 2800mah battery would you take it?

theboss23 said:
Well I actually went to the note 2 forum and I did not see any complaints about battery life, I also googled "galaxy note 2 bad battery life" and I did not get any results of a person complaining about battery life so I'm going to go ahead and say based on facts/research the note 2 has good/great battery life. As far as the screen goes it is noticeable, and regardless of whether you notice a difference or not it's there none the less and is technically an upgrade. Look at it this way, if someone were to offer you a galaxy s3 with a screen that didn't use the pentile matrix and had a 2800mah battery would you take it?
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I am not taking any phone that does not have a15 cpu. Samsung is very good at marketing. I had note one when came out and it is fun for first week only and then nothing special. I use an anker 4400 and get 9 hrs screen on time heavy usage sp if the choice was cuz of battery life only nah then. The screen yes sucks if you try to read out in the sun or at the beach but i do not think sammy has made any changes to fix that considering all the galaxy line phones historically have had bad screen brightness compared to their competitor htc for example.

lazarat said:
I am not taking any phone that does not have a15 cpu. Samsung is very good at marketing. I had note one when came out and it is fun for first week only and then nothing special. I use an anker 4400 and get 9 hrs screen on time heavy usage sp if the choice was cuz of battery life only nah then. The screen yes sucks if you try to read out in the sun or at the beach but i do not think sammy has made any changes to fix that considering all the galaxy line phones historically have had bad screen brightness compared to their competitor htc for example.
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Well that entire post was basically your opinion on the note 1 and still doesn't justify how the note 2 isn't a upgrade from the s3.

theboss23 said:
Well that entire post was basically your opinion on the note 1 and still doesn't justify how the note 2 isn't a upgrade from the s3.
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Told you how it is not an upgrade it has old technology cpu, still same camera.You say got better screen, i say normal user notices no difference. Battery is bigger but does not mean anything cuz screen is bigger too so it spends more juice. software features as i said are not worth mentioning cuz once gs3 came out features were easily ported to gs2 and as u moght have noticed we are already using note2 camera+gallery.

lazarat said:
Told you how it is not an upgrade it has old technology cpu, still same camera.You say got better screen, i say normal user notices no difference. Battery is bigger but does not mean anything cuz screen is bigger too so it spends more juice. software features as i said are not worth mentioning cuz once gs3 came out features were easily ported to gs2 and as u moght have noticed we are already using note2 camera+gallery.
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- "old cpu technology"
Well it will be coming to the U.S with a exynos processor which is fantastic and benchmarks show that it's faster then our dual core s4 processors.
- "You say got better screen, i say normal user notices no difference."
Again this is your opinion but regardless it is still technically an upgrade to the screen, sort of like the difference between 1080p and 720p, some say it's not noticeable on a display this small but regardless it would still be an improvement.
- "Battery is bigger but does not mean anything cuz screen is bigger too so it spends more juice."
Well based on the fact that I went to the note 2 forums as you suggested and saw no negative posts about battery life I'd say it's definitely better. Not good enough for you, read this: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Review_id3134/page/4
- "software features as i said are not worth mentioning..."
While this is true, there is currently no port for the note 2 features so it doesn't matter if it's possible because there is currently no port for it.
Anything else?

The only reason I'd sell my gs3 would be for the oppo find 5.
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lazarat said:
Told you how it is not an upgrade it has old technology cpu, still same camera.You say got better screen, i say normal user notices no difference. Battery is bigger but does not mean anything cuz screen is bigger too so it spends more juice. software features as i said are not worth mentioning cuz once gs3 came out features were easily ported to gs2 and as u moght have noticed we are already using note2 camera+gallery.
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i'm not with you here.
there are several useful gestures via hovering with the s-pen that would never be replicated on the s3. the note2 is somewhat approaching desktop like functionality and packing it in a device that fits in your pocket.
My only gripe is that it might be too big, I'm loving the s3's size even after getting rid of my note. To say all the note 2 features can be ported over is a joke, and everyone complains about the pentile display. Not to mention the s3s default brightness values are even lower than the note 1. Out of the box the note 2 will have better performance and features. Size is the only thing that would hold people back.
If samsung made a Note 1.5 which would be the same size/design as the S3 packing the same goodies don't really think it would be a contest people would obviously pick the phone with better technology.

No one can make that decision but you. Everyone has their own opinion.
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theboss23 said:
- "old cpu technology"
Well it will be coming to the U.S with a s4 processor but even now the processor is fantastic and benchmarks show that it's faster then our s4 processors.
- "You say got better screen, i say normal user notices no difference."
Again this is your opinion but regardless it is still technically an upgrade to the screen, sort of like the difference between 1080p and 720p, some say it's not noticeable on a display this small but regardless it would still be an improvement.
- "Battery is bigger but does not mean anything cuz screen is bigger too so it spends more juice."
Well based on the fact that I went to the note 2 forums as you suggested and saw no negative posts about battery life I'd say it's definitely better. Not good enough for you, read this: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Review_id3134/page/4
- "software features as i said are not worth mentioning..."
While this is true, there is currently no port for the note 2 features so it doesn't matter if it's possible because there is currently no port for it.
Anything else?
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Lol reading the first line of your comment made me understand you totally have no idea what you are talking about. Good luck with note 2 though. I'd rather spend that money on the next nexus device if i wanted a new device but that is just me

Does htc one x has better support

Does htc one x has better support for cyanogenmod roms? Since i am a galaxy s3 user had a best deal here to get shifted to one x.. .Please let me know guys...does it has good development support than s3 has???
And cynogenmod team is going to leave exynos based development... Thats why i am planning to shift....
Am i doing right thing....any helping replys will be appreciated...
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There are quite a bit of cm10 based and aokp roms. They do get updated frequently but still a little bit buggy.
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Not sure if you should trade in.
The tegra 3 is really starting to get out-dated IMO. In the end it is your decision. So yeah.
Personally i wouldn't do it.

Not sure if it's a "helping" reply but why don't you consider Nexus4 if you want stock Android experience? You'll get the fastest updates and none of the inevitable bugs from porting stock Android to a device that wasn't supposed to have it. Also Google would not abandon it sometime in the future like CM are doing with Exynos devices (if it's true).
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Aren't cm leaving exynos devices due to no source being released?
I may be way off here.
You should use both phones then make a decision. I totally get that some prefer aosp on certain hardware.
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tkolev said:
Not sure if it's a "helping" reply but why don't you consider Nexus4 if you want stock Android experience? You'll get the fastest updates and none of the inevitable bugs from porting stock Android to a device that wasn't supposed to have it. Also Google would not abandon it sometime in the future like CM are doing with Exynos devices (if it's true).
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Word. My htc one x screen broke and they told me repair costs 283 euros. Told them to shove it up their ass. 16 euros more and i have a nexus 4. So you should really go for a Nexus 4 if you like CM.
The only problem i have here is the fact that in austria we have no google play store. But hopefully this person i met from germany is trust worthy enough and will send me a nexus 4 once it's out.

Thank u very much guys...i'll skip of buying one x and wait for nexus 4...but here in india we cant buy them through playstore... Lg is going to sell almost double of price here thats what i am fearing about to buy
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Personally, I think the One X is better than the Nexus 4. Early benchmarks show that the Nexus has a severely underclocked GPU, and easily overheats, getting throttled even more. The One X also has a better screen IMO.
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gnan10 said:
Thank u very much guys...i'll skip of buying one x and wait for nexus 4...but here in india we cant buy them through playstore... Lg is going to sell almost double of price here thats what i am fearing about to buy
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I wanted to move to nexus 4, rumours say it will be priced at 34-35k here in India, so my plans for upgrade are cancelled atm
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kryptoner said:
I wanted to move to nexus 4, rumours say it will be priced at 34-35k here in India, so my plans for upgrade are cancelled atm
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34-35 K? I doubt it You should be able to import it at a lesser price than that.

XxVcVxX said:
Personally, I think the One X is better than the Nexus 4. Early benchmarks show that the Nexus has a severely underclocked GPU, and easily overheats, getting throttled even more. The One X also has a better screen IMO.
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Yeah... You said it.. early benchmarks.
We've seen how the HoX did before and after certain benchmarks. So there's no reason not to believe that it won't be the same in nexus 4's case.
Then you have multiple pros for the Nexus 4:
Bigger battery (2100 mAh) is nothing remarkable. However, 28nm is more power efficient which would mean we should definitely be experiencing a better battery life in the Nexus 4 than on the One X. Even if stand by times won't be as good, the battery life with screen on is going to be better. (see galaxy s3).
For people that want their phone for regular day to day usage, s4 chip is supposed to be better and faster. (EVEN in gaming it's going to stump the Tegra3)
Google getting hands on quad core - that must actually mean that they will actually do their best to optimize their phone to run quad-core. And since it is google we are talking about i can imagine them doing a great job.
First to get updates (reason enough to go for the Nexus 4 over the one x)
IPS screen (supposed to be among the best)
Really. What more can i say. There's one thing i don't doubt, and that's the fact that the tegra 4 is going to be better battery wise and faster. However, i don't feel like waiting for a tegra 4 device and to top it off, you actually need a manufacturer that makes the best out of it. For people who are not into gaming, they probably won't notice much of a difference. At the pace that google is improving their OS i just can't make up for excuses to stay with other manufacturers.

shadehh said:
Yeah... You said it.. early benchmarks.
We've seen how the HoX did before and after certain benchmarks. So there's no reason not to believe that it won't be the same in nexus 4's case.
Then you have multiple pros for the Nexus 4:
Bigger battery (2100 mAh) is nothing remarkable. However, 28nm is more power efficient which would mean we should definitely be experiencing a better battery life in the Nexus 4 than on the One X. Even if stand by times won't be as good, the battery life with screen on is going to be better. (see galaxy s3).
For people that want their phone for regular day to day usage, s4 chip is supposed to be better and faster. (EVEN in gaming it's going to stump the Tegra3)
Google getting hands on quad core - that must actually mean that they will actually do their best to optimize their phone to run quad-core. And since it is google we are talking about i can imagine them doing a great job.
First to get updates (reason enough to go for the Nexus 4 over the one x)
IPS screen (supposed to be among the best)
Really. What more can i say. There's one thing i don't doubt, and that's the fact that the tegra 4 is going to be better battery wise and faster. However, i don't feel like waiting for a tegra 4 device and to top it off, you actually need a manufacturer that makes the best out of it. For people who are not into gaming, they probably won't notice much of a difference. At the pace that google is improving their OS i just can't make up for excuses to stay with other manufacturers.
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Well, technically the S4 pro does stump the Tegra 3 in gaming, but Tegra 3 has more optimized games in Play Store so therefore Tegra wins. The SLCD2 is also better than the IPS in some reviews, and the underclocked GPU is also very apparent is some benchmarks.
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shadehh said:
Yeah... You said it.. early benchmarks.
We've seen how the HoX did before and after certain benchmarks. So there's no reason not to believe that it won't be the same in nexus 4's case.
Then you have multiple pros for the Nexus 4:
Bigger battery (2100 mAh) is nothing remarkable. However, 28nm is more power efficient which would mean we should definitely be experiencing a better battery life in the Nexus 4 than on the One X. Even if stand by times won't be as good, the battery life with screen on is going to be better. (see galaxy s3).
For people that want their phone for regular day to day usage, s4 chip is supposed to be better and faster. (EVEN in gaming it's going to stump the Tegra3)
Google getting hands on quad core - that must actually mean that they will actually do their best to optimize their phone to run quad-core. And since it is google we are talking about i can imagine them doing a great job.
First to get updates (reason enough to go for the Nexus 4 over the one x)
IPS screen (supposed to be among the best)
Really. What more can i say. There's one thing i don't doubt, and that's the fact that the tegra 4 is going to be better battery wise and faster. However, i don't feel like waiting for a tegra 4 device and to top it off, you actually need a manufacturer that makes the best out of it. For people who are not into gaming, they probably won't notice much of a difference. At the pace that google is improving their OS i just can't make up for excuses to stay with other manufacturers.
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One major flaw though, only 8GB or 16GB internal memory and no expansion slot.
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How long do you think before the Note 2 gets/feels outdated?

Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?

When samsung releases note 3 I think.. and thats about 3rd to 4th quarter next year..
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And also not so many apps today optimize quad core processor.. and when that time comes note 2 is still running smoothly because what you are holding right now is not yet fully optimize.. wait until all developers optimize their apps and you will see the real note 2..
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I'd say when the Note 3 comes out or a worthy equal from a competitor
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.

I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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bushako said:
Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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I have both note 2 and one x as well as an s3, and the hox screen is by far the best amongst the 3 in terms of crispness in my opinion.
But back on topic haha, i think it is good that technology is moving so fast. Just means better stuff for us to upgrade to in a year. The note 2 is powerful enough to withstand the changes that will occur in the next 12 months at the very least.
Try not to look at it as being in the spotlight, because regardless of what samsung or anyone else bring, the note 2 is still so unique that it can stand on it own until something else of similar size and with a stylus comes along
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.
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I wish it were true for everyone but fortunately not everyone thinks alike. I see it a bit more than just a device..It should be able to work as fluidly as it was when I first had it at least for the few years ahead, and keep up with newer apps that demand more hardware resources. I like to have the greatest and the latest or at least try, but that's me
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I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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Yupe I tell that to myself too from time to time...
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Now and for some time in the future, the specs of our devices should suffice. Get a new battery in a year, keep installing new updates and enjoy your awesome phone

bushako said:
Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?
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I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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Hehe. In my case it was Mom who got my old HTC Desire. (She loves it.)
The Note 2 has just the right size for me and - compared to the Desire - more space than I'd even know what to do with, so my guess is I'll still be happy with it in 2 years. But who knows what they'll throw on the market in the near future...

When the s4 is released, my note 2 will probably become a secondary device.....depending on the actual specs released on the s4.
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Until Note 2 keeps getting updates and new features I'll be more than happy to be with it.
The moment ,say Key Lime Pie(unlikely) or a later version, is not released for us, the phone will feel outdated. Cause the quad core specs should hold up for a couple of years and all that is needed are constant updates giving way to new features.
Thats what i feel.

It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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My thoughts exactly.

There are a few aspects which I consider when buying a phone, and for determining if a phone is outdated or not.
I'll give you my thoughts on when the Note II will be "outdated" - keep in mind this is relative and subject to your own opinion.
The Note II is a great device and in my opinion, it will still be great to use for the coming 2 years (which is standard contract length).
The following aspects are which I use to determine if a phone is outdated:
Battery
The Note II has a decent battery, 3100 mAh is very good for any phone. But the capacity is relative to the hardware of the phone; because of the screen size and quad-core CPU you cannot compare this 1:1 with, say, a 4 inch dual-core phone. The hardware of the Note II drains alot more battery capacity than a 4 inch dual-core phone would. Nonetheless, you can get 36-40 hours out of the battery, which still is better than most phones nowadays.
Screen
The screen of the Note II isn't it's strongest aspect. Sure, the 5.5" 1280x720 screen is nice, but what is important is the ppi (pixels per inch). The Note II has 267 ppi. In a few months there will be some phones with a 5" 1920x1080 screen, resulting in 443 ppi. This is alot better than the Note II. For now the Note II has a good screen, but it will be less attractive once the 5" 1920x1080 phones are released.
The screen won't be damaged by normal use, which is good.
CPU
An Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU at 1.6 GHz is a very good CPU. One of the best at the present moment. However, the coming Intel CPU's in Android phones will give it a run for it's money.
GPU
The Note II comes with a quad-core Mali-400MP GPU clocked at 400 MHz. This will provide the Note II with all the graphics processing power it needs and won't be surpassed soon. It's supposed to render as well as the PS3 and XBox 360. However, NVidia's Tegra 4 (not released yet) will be better.
Memory
2 GB RAM is very good, and any phone won't need more for quite a while.
Build quality
It might feel a little cheap, but it is quite strong and well-made. I am using it without a case (but with flip cover) and after about 2 months, it is still undamaged. This may vary between users but for me, it's a plus.
Development possibilities
The Note II is easy to root and there is active development going on. No downside here besides the fact that once rooted on stock ROM, you can no longer recieve OTA updates from Samsung.
Camera
The 8 MP camerica is ok. There are already better camera's in some other phones, but alot of the currently available phones have worse camera's.
Update likeliness
Samsung will surely keep the phone updated with the latest Android versions available. No worries about not being able to have the latest Android version on your phone - and if Samsung decides to stop updating, the active development community will probably provide you with a custom ROM of the latest version.
In conclusion: in the coming few months the Note II will be surpassed by other phones. However, it is a decent phone and can surely last you 2 years without losing much of it's power. So, yes, in terms of specifications, it will be outdated by the end of 2013. However, it will still be a great device and in terms of consumer satisfaction, it will not be outdated for atleast 2 years.

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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.

bushako said:
Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.
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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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I got a note 2 for myself and an S3 as a present to my mom (she didn't want the big size at all) for me the note 2 specs are top notch.
For CPU I think the exynos 4412 quad is the best second to that is probably the snap dragon s4 quad
Ram 2 gigs is pretty much the standard for smart phones now and don't think will change in quite some time.
screen is beautiful. Tbh when you look closely with note 2 and s3 side by side the s3 is better but that's because of the higher ppi
Don't forget the s pen is a huge selling point no other phone except the note 1, 2 has it. Especially with all the awesome Features of It.

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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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So in other words unless there aren't many apps being developed that require more powerful processors and ram then there's really not that much to look forward to with the upcoming s4 performance wise other than an increase in display size, pixel density and perhaps battery life... I can't imagine how much more improvements can be done over the current performance of the note 2. This thing is literally by far the best phone experience since my last iphone device.
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Note 7 Snapdragon vs Exynos

I have always used smartphones with a Snapdragon in them and been waiting a long time for a decent Note to come out to upgrade my S4. I have heard a mixed bag in regards to Snapdragon and Exynos from various review sites and reading peoples comment. Some say SD820 runs hot during gaming, some say Exynos throttles a lot during gaming while others say the SD produce better sound and the Exynos is not optimized well.
So I thought the best place to find out for sure is from XDA. To set the scene, I mainly be using the Note 7 for music, gaming and watching anime. Performance and battery life is the main things I am looking for, anyone able to comment on personal experience with the variant they have or really know your stuff in regards to the variants, would be much appreciated.

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I have always used smartphones with a Snapdragon in them and been waiting a long time for a decent Note to come out to upgrade my S4. I have heard a mixed bag in regards to Snapdragon and Exynos from various review sites and reading peoples comment. Some say SD820 runs hot during gaming, some say Exynos throttles a lot during gaming while others say the SD produce better sound and the Exynos is not optimized well.
So I thought the best place to find out for sure is from XDA. To set the scene, I mainly be using the Note 7 for music, gaming and watching anime. Performance and battery life is the main things I am looking for, anyone able to comment on personal experience with the variant they have or really know your stuff in regards to the variants, would be much appreciated.
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I just ordered the Exynos version and should be getting it soon. I've gone through 4 SD 820 versions on AT&T USA and can confidently say based on my experience, the performance is abominable. It goes from being insanely faste to incredibly laggy in everything you do. The battery life of all 4 phones have been unimpressive. I pretty much have to charge about twice to get me through the day.
The loudness is just okay. I'm looking forward to comparing with the Exynos version when it arrives. As for the 4th SD version Note 7 I'm currently using, it will be going back back to it's maker really soon.

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I just ordered the Exynos version and should be getting it soon. I've gone through 4 SD 820 versions on AT&T USA and can confidently say based on my experience, the performance is abominable. It goes from being insanely faste to incredibly laggy in everything you do. The battery life of all 4 phones have been unimpressive. I pretty much have to charge about twice to get me through the day.
The loudness is just okay. I'm looking forward to comparing with the Exynos version when it arrives. As for the 4th SD version Note 7 I'm currently using, it will be going back back to it's maker really soon.
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Thanks for this, I would be interested to know your impressions on the Exynos variant of the Note 7 once you have gave it a good run.

Looks like there is a clear winner here. Thank you for everyone who voted in the poll. I really appreciate it.

I've heard nothing but bad stuff about the Snapdragon version, hopefully nothing an update can fix.

Thank you for making this poll. I am seriously thinking of returning the Galaxy Note 7 I purchased in Canada in favour of a Galaxy S7 Edge. Overall performance, operating temperature and battery life are more important to me than a minor boost in rendering performance.

My Canadian Snapdragon version has been great. No battery life or heat issues here. It took a few days to settle in after I set it up, but it's been great since. Battery life is slightly lower than my S7 Edge was, but the battery is also slightly smaller. I'm averaging 5.5-6hrs of SoT (auto brightness + location on), which is good enough for me.
The Exynos versions seem to be self destructing randomly after a few days. Bricks and bootloops.

Thanks
Thanks for the post and all the votes guys. I was also thinking about this and according to android central, strictly based on numbers, the exynos version has a better cpu and the snapdragon version has better gpu. However this doesn't really say anything about real world performance.

I have both for this week...I bought Tmobile on preorder and just bought Exynos as well...I love the Exynos...does come with a funky plug for the wall...it was warmer too as first...Did the update lastnight and its super fast and not warm anymore...I bought because of Unlocked Bootloader and possible Root soon...Chainfire does not have his device yet...so soon it will be up hopefully...out of the 2 the Exynos is brighter as well when both are maxed. My only con and I think its fixable is I got the FD Duos..and Messages has a blue #1 on it...All my messages do for that matter and the send button had it...trying to figure out how to turn it off... it's just my phone letting me know what SIMs card I'm using but I don't like it. But out of the two I'm definitely happier with the Exynos
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My Canadian Snapdragon version has been great. No battery life or heat issues here. It took a few days to settle in after I set it up, but it's been great since. Battery life is slightly lower than my S7 Edge was, but the battery is also slightly smaller. I'm averaging 5.5-6hrs of SoT (auto brightness + location on), which is good enough for me.
The Exynos versions seem to be self destructing randomly after a few days. Bricks and bootloops.
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Hmmmm...sounds like some attempted Root going on there! Hahaha
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Yo bad if you go with the exynos version you can't use samsung pay in the US which is the only downer in my opinion.

doug0365 said:
Yo bad if you go with the exynos version you can't use samsung pay in the US which is the only downer in my opinion.
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Not true I had a FD model and using my ATT SIM Samsung Pay worked out of the box.