Otterbox defender skin becoming loose? - Xoom Accessories

I have had my otterbox defender case for three months now. Zero complaints, except now the silicone skin seems to not fit well around the case now, mainly the lower right corner. It is no longer snug, it seems pretty loose and just won't fit in it's lip without pooching the right side out of it's lip. Anyone else have this problem? and if you have found a solution what is it? If i told otterbox, do you think they would send me a replacement skin? Or state it isn't covered? I really like the case but, if this is what i have to look forward every three or so months, there are other options

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My Brief Subjective Seidio Innocase RUGGED Review

I received my Seidio Innocase Rugged Case and Holster for my EVO 4G. It consists of a Innocase II Surface, a soft plastic shell that wraps around the Innocase II Surface. The third and final piece is an exoskeleton that fits around the soft plastic shell. There is also a nicely built holster that has a nice locking button.
Fit- The fit is excellent, everything slips on tight but not too tight. Be careful not to pull off your screen protector when putting this case on your EVO.
Materials- The materials seem like they are tough and durable. The problem is that the soft plastic is very thin in the areas where the exoskeleton fits on it.
Durability- This solid feeling case should outlast my EVO in my opinion.
Protection- I doubt that this case provides more protection than the Active cases. I would like a thicker soft layer like the Active cases have. However, this rugged case does come with a sturdy clip and protection of ports and camera lens. The Surface case that the rugged fits around is also a plus for anyone that has need for a sleeker looking case at times.
Overall, I think I would be happier with an Otterbox type design, I think they are tougher. But the Rugged and Active are both available now. I would recommend the Innocase Active over the Rugged if you have no need for an included clip, camera lens protection and want to save some cash.
*The rugged case comes with a screen protector, which some have liked, I personally prefer something tougher.
This is my very subjective opinion, I'm sure I missed a few things. Please share your opinions as well!
firemedic1343 said:
I received my Seidio Innocase Rugged Case and Holster for my EVO 4G. It consists of a Innocase II Surface, a soft plastic shell that wraps around the Innocase II Surface. The third and final piece is an exoskeleton that fits around the soft plastic shell. There is also a nicely built holster that has a nice locking button.
Fit- The fit is excellent, everything slips on tight but not too tight. Be careful not to pull off your screen protector when putting this case on your EVO.
Materials- The materials seem like they are tough and durable. The problem is that the soft plastic is very thin in the areas where the exoskeleton fits on it.
Durability- This solid feeling case should outlast my EVO in my opinion.
Protection- I doubt that this case provides more protection than the Active cases. I would like a thicker soft layer like the Active cases have. However, this rugged case does come with a sturdy clip and protection of ports and camera lens. The Surface case that the rugged fits around is also a plus for anyone that has need for a sleeker looking case at times.
Overall, I think I would be happier with an Otterbox type design, I think they are tougher. But the Rugged and Active are both available now. I would recommend the Innocase Active over the Rugged if you have no need for an included clip, camera lens protection and want to save some cash.
*The rugged case comes with a screen protector, which some have liked, I personally prefer something tougher.
This is my very subjective opinion, I'm sure I missed a few things. Please share your opinions as well!
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good review. I agree with you, just wish that amazon would stock the active so I could get one already!
ive got a rugged on the way for a few reasons:
-its two cases in one
-its got protection for the cam and ports
-it comes with a holser (i dont believe the active does)
dmc971989 said:
ive got a rugged on the way for a few reasons:
-its two cases in one
-its got protection for the cam and ports
-it comes with a holser (i dont believe the active does)
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There is a set on the website that has an included holster. However, the price is $50 and it does not give you 2 cases or cam/port protection. If you need a holster the rugged is the best value right now.
firemedic1343 said:
There is a set on the website that has an included holster. However, the price is $50 and it does not give you 2 cases or cam/port protection. If you need a holster the rugged is the best value right now.
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i got my rugged today and i must say im a fan...
its pretty much an innocase II with a soft ruber case around it and then another plastic shell to surround the soft rubber case
i would also like to mention that the holster has a locking feature, my regular innocase II holster did not have that
p.s. the port covers are very nice, but some of the covers (the head phone jack cover) worries me... i feel like its going to tear off of the case
I wish Amazon would hurry up and receive their stock.
Someone needs to put up a video & picture review of this case
redrazr7791 said:
I wish Amazon would hurry up and receive their stock.
Someone needs to put up a video & picture review of this case
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why would anyone dislike your sig?
dmc971989 said:
i got my rugged today and i must say im a fan...
its pretty much an innocase II with a soft ruber case around it and then another plastic shell to surround the soft rubber case
i would also like to mention that the holster has a locking feature, my regular innocase II holster did not have that
p.s. the port covers are very nice, but some of the covers (the head phone jack cover) worries me... i feel like its going to tear off of the case
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I like the idea of the locking holster, but my locking mechanism seems to unlock frequently with use.
I agree with you on the tearing issue, I'm just waiting for it to tear. The rubber is thinner than I'd like and with the amount of times you need to charge the phone, I'm anticipating a tear...
Innocase Rugged Review
I also just received my rugged case and thought I would share my thoughts on it.
As my brother often says, "It is amazing how the phone manufacturers spend so much time and effort to make the phones sleek and shiny and as soon as we get them we cover them up to protect them, hiding all the built in beauty."
The "killer" feature of this case/holster combination is the protection it offers. It doesn't make your phone look extra cool, easier to use, or anything of that sort. Other than protection you can now also carry your phone on your belt with the included holster.
You will find that after you put on the rugged case you will have to use the holster. This rugged double case makes your phone nearly twice as thick. It still fits in the pocket of my jeans, but it is very apparent that my phone is there.
I purchased the version that also includes the Innocase II Surface holster as well. In comparing the two holsters, you can quickly see that they are like night and day. The rugged holster will support belts that are almost twice as thick as the non rugged holster. The plastic on the rugged holster also looks to be slightly thicker through out. The rugged also includes a locking mechanism to prevent you from bumping into something and having your clip release your phone to the floor. I do find that the locking mechanism is a little tough to put into the lock position, but very easy to push to unlock.
The phone must have its face in on the holster. You will not be able to just clip the holster into your car and have your phone face out. It will not be usable as a poor man's car dock using just some twist ties or paper clips and an A/C vent. With the rugged part off, you can use the phone face out in the rugged holster. (I haven't tried seeing if that combination will allow access to the power ports to charge.
The screen protector went on easily and the included cloth fully cleaned all of the finger prints and grime off of my phone. It seems that the screen protector could have been slightly (very slightly) wider to fully fit the front of the phone. After putting on the Innocase II on the phone, I was unable to see the area that wasn't covered with the protector.
All of the buttons on the phone are easily hit even though they are covered with silicone. This includes the power button as well as the volume up and down buttons. You can hit them just as easily as when they were not covered.
The USB and HDMI port cover reminds me a bit about the usb port cover on my wife's Palm Pixi. You can get it off, but it would help to have longer finger nails. I was glad when my USB port cover previously broke off of my Palm Pre and made it always available.
The camera cover seems like a very nice feature. Almost no camera would exclude something to cover the lens when not in use. Yet almost no phones try to cover it up at all. Since the EVO also has the lens stick out the back of the phone this can be a real worry. I definately like the idea of having a cover, but it does have a few draw backs. First it is a pain ot open. It took me a bit to get it, but I found that the two finger solution seems to work. Use one finger to press down on the little piece of rubber and then another to pull it out. It is too bad it doesn't work much more like the kickstand where you can press on one side and it pops open. It does latch into the hard plastic exoskeleton, but it can take a bit to get it to stay. The camera cover also covers the speaker on that back, so you might need to uncover it when talking on the speaker phone. Overall I like the camera cover.
The headphone cover seems to be the easiet cover to open. It left plenty of room when open for me to put in my headset. In saying this, my headset has a vary narrow plug, so your milleage may vary.
The case does not seem to effect my signal coverage at all. I can hold my phone in the left or right hand and still get 5 bars of signal. I can also get a gps lock with this case on my phone.
I tested throwing my phone down onto hard ceramic tile in my kitchen and was unable to see any damage to my phone or the case. (just kidding)
davebu said:
why would anyone dislike your sig?
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You'd be surprised...
i would also like to add that the evo in just the Innocase II will fit in the holster "face out"... and lock in just fine
soooo:
full rugged case - holster works with screen facing in
just innocase II - holster works with screen facing out
Went out with my friends yesterday, showed one of them the rugged case, he looked at it and goes: "throw it" I was confident in the case but not the screen, so i decided to drop it on its back from about 4 ft in the air. Hit the dirt parking lot, everyone that wasn't paying attention to the conversation gasped as they thought i had accidently dropped my shiny new toy.
I picked it up, inspected it, there weren't even any marks on the exoskeleton part. Dusted off the silicone and snapped it back in my holster, everything was fine.
Overall, fairly impressed by the protection it affords.
lacrossev said:
Went out with my friends yesterday, showed one of them the rugged case, he looked at it and goes: "throw it" I was confident in the case but not the screen, so i decided to drop it on its back from about 4 ft in the air. Hit the dirt parking lot, everyone that wasn't paying attention to the conversation gasped as they thought i had accidently dropped my shiny new toy.
I picked it up, inspected it, there weren't even any marks on the exoskeleton part. Dusted off the silicone and snapped it back in my holster, everything was fine.
Overall, fairly impressed by the protection it affords.
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Next time man up and throw it.

Chrome Bezel-covering cases?

i know the TPU case with the plastic back covers it and the plastic hard snap-on cases cover it
from what i've seen these are the only cases that wrap around enough to completely cover the bezel, but maybe you guys would know of other that do, preferable tpu. i switch out batteries all the time so the snap on cases arent the best since they are tough to remove.
thanks
TPU?
You didn't really ask a question...
semantics...... im looking for a case that covers the chrome-bezel, for those who didnt understand the topic
anywho...tpu is that high grade plastic that feels rubbery, like the argyle cases daydeal sells
Otterbox commuter case does. Best case i have bought for a phone, feels great in the hand and looks very good. Wont ever go without it
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How much bigger does the Otterbox case make the phone? The other Otterboxes I've seen (for other devices) were a significant addition to the thickness.
Otterboxes and cyclops cases make the phone feel FAT. REALLY fat....it completely kills a device that was designed to be thin. Personally, I'd recoomend you this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772826
Covers the bezel, does not make the phone look fat. Looks great from the back also. Rubbery only on the sides. Don't get the new edition as it's a poor fit, get the old edition which doesn't have cutouts for the buttons. Then, if you have problems with the power button, put a little piece of paper on it and it will feel great to press.
Also, the case makes the phone nearly indestructable. I've dropped it 7ft on concrete. Case got a concrete scratch....phone was perfect.
Thanks for the suggestion! I was considering either that one or the one mentioned in the second post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098214
I just don't want anything that's too big and fat (don't need my phone to look like me. LOL)
That one from the post is nice except it doesn't cover the bezel on the top and bottom. That's pretty major for me, otherwise it's a great case. Similar to the mesh ones. The one I linked you covers everything and is thin.
i had that one, but the glue started coming off where the plastic is attached to the rubber. i would like one thats all rubber because the plastic back is slippery, there doesn't seem to be any other option though to cover that bezel
superglue. I did it to mine and hasn't moved since.

Extended Battery cases

Just thought I would throw this out there for the people that are asking
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Incr...5C/ref=sr_1_95?ie=UTF8&qid=1328665651&sr=8-95
If any one actually buys these remember to throw out a friendly review.
I tried that one out... it's okay. Currently rocking the one made by MoreTalkTime... which is not bad either.
Anyone try to do a cutout? I bought a tpu case and failed big time at cutting out the back. Arts and crafts are not for me I guess.
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I'm trying this at the moment. Though, currently attempting to cut through the last layer of my ballistic case. Call me crazy, I was bored. It doesn't seem to be turning out too bad. The last picture shows the cut out square blocks which give an idea of what I will glue together and try to attach onto the hard piece of ballistic case using strong rubbery glue over super glued plastic side walls. Who knows, if it fails I will just buy a replacement case and cover.
I have done a cut out on a silacone case before with...well lack luster results. It basically looked like extra padded bumper.
After a few days, i am pretty happy with this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00669H7Z0/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
not a perfect fit if you use the HTC extended battery... but it fits well enough.
I'm not 100% satisfied, but only because I wanted a case that was extremely snug. This is not that case... but it fits w/ extended battery. Hard to really argue against it for 8 bucks too.
I'm tempted to just get this: http://shop.htcpedia.com/incredible-2-extended-battery-cases.html
but I dunno... i'm sure those are just TPU cases that someone else cut out by hand... more or less doing what I wish i could do with an xacto knife.
Making the Moretalktime case snug...
I have the HTC extended battery/back and purchased the moretalktime case.
Also was a little loose and just didn't feel as snug as I'd hoped, especially for a tpu case.
Simple solution though. Find a piece of material that's about 1mm thick and cut out a rectangle to insert inside the moretalktime case before sliding the phone in.
For me I used an old leather wallet I had laying around and cut out a rectangle to fit so it's not visible from any of the moretalktime case cutouts.
This gives a perfect snug fit all the way around and makes the case perfect for use with the HTC extended battery/back.
Just thought I'd share.....haven't found any other combo out there like this.
That's an interesting idea... a piece of leather just to pad it a bit.
It figures that we would have to add something in order to make the case feel sung.

Trident Cyclops

Anyone here have the cyclops case? If so, can you post pics of the case? I read a review someone did but all they used were the stock images Trident provides. I'm still undecided between this and the Otterbox Commuter case so the pics would definitely help.
I have a commuter... Fits perfect, great protection... A little slippery maybe. I did get a defender too for work... Cause I need a holster at work. When my defender gets all hacked up, I'll use the commuter on weekends when I don't need a holster.
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I posted a review on the Cyclops on this forum. And yes, I linked to the stock pictures because they are just the same as what you get in person, and my camera at the time was a half-dead Galaxy Nexus.
That said: between the Defender and the Cyclops, I much prefer the Trident case for the size. It's much more pocketable and it's easier to remove. It looks less nerdy and it's simply more elegant. On a size scale, the Cyclops is more comparable to the Otterbox Commuter. It does add a lot of bulk, but with the protection, your phone would have to land on a corner, against the screen, for it to shatter.
However, it does not at all offer the same amount as protection as the Defender, given the materials. The Otterbox Defender is completely obnoxious to remove. But once it's on, it's on. And that thing is a tank. A big, ugly, bulky tank. It's ugly as sin, but it works perfectly, and it's solid.
If you work outside, you'll want that one for sure. It's a monster. If you want decent protection, with a few pros of the Defender (plastic screen cover, padded corners), but without all of that bulk, then the Cyclops is okay. Otherwise, I'm more partial to the Otterbox Commuter.
Between the Commuter and the Cyclops, the biggest difference is that the Commuter doesn't have a built-in plastic screen guard. The one on the cyclops is fairly flimsy. It's basically a capacitive protector that's been glued onto the faceplate. It's fine for me, but I would've preferred something a bit more substantial if possible.
The Biggest Problem with the Cyclops Case: The top of my case doesn't clip shut. I don't know if they're all flawed, or if I just got lucky. There are notches for the clips to snap into place, but for whatever reason (perhaps there was an error when the mold was created and they didn't have access to the phone?), it won't snap shut. I've reached out to Trident, and they've said that I could RMA it for a new one. I tried that, and I haven't heard back from anybody.
It won't fall off, but it's annoying to feel that much wiggle room. You always notice it. If you hold the phone and apply pressure to the top, the case bends and makes a "click" sound where the notches should be snapping into place. It always bugs me.
Given that mine doesn't shut tight properly, I'm going to return it to Amazon if I don't hear back soon, and get the Commuter.
Anyway, I hope that helps you. Refer to my original thread for more info.
kj2112 said:
I have a commuter... Fits perfect, great protection... A little slippery maybe. I did get a defender too for work... Cause I need a holster at work. When my defender gets all hacked up, I'll use the commuter on weekends when I don't need a holster.
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Thankfully the commuter case has a few pictures floating around and actual video reviews. I had a commuter for my previous devices and have had a great experience with them.
Jon C said:
I posted a review on the Cyclops on this forum. And yes, I linked to the stock pictures because they are just the same as what you get in person, and my camera at the time was a half-dead Galaxy Nexus.
That said: between the Defender and the Cyclops, I much prefer the Trident case for the size. It's much more pocketable and it's easier to remove. It looks less nerdy and it's simply more elegant. On a size scale, the Cyclops is more comparable to the Otterbox Commuter. It does add a lot of bulk, but with the protection, your phone would have to land on a corner, against the screen, for it to shatter.
However, it does not at all offer the same amount as protection as the Defender, given the materials. The Otterbox Defender is completely obnoxious to remove. But once it's on, it's on. And that thing is a tank. A big, ugly, bulky tank. It's ugly as sin, but it works perfectly, and it's solid.
If you work outside, you'll want that one for sure. It's a monster. If you want decent protection, with a few pros of the Defender (plastic screen cover, padded corners), but without all of that bulk, then the Cyclops is okay. Otherwise, I'm more partial to the Otterbox Commuter.
Between the Commuter and the Cyclops, the biggest difference is that the Commuter doesn't have a built-in plastic screen guard. The one on the cyclops is fairly flimsy. It's basically a capacitive protector that's been glued onto the faceplate. It's fine for me, but I would've preferred something a bit more substantial if possible.
The Biggest Problem with the Cyclops Case: The top of my case doesn't clip shut. I don't know if they're all flawed, or if I just got lucky. There are notches for the clips to snap into place, but for whatever reason (perhaps there was an error when the mold was created and they didn't have access to the phone?), it won't snap shut. I've reached out to Trident, and they've said that I could RMA it for a new one. I tried that, and I haven't heard back from anybody.
It won't fall off, but it's annoying to feel that much wiggle room. You always notice it. If you hold the phone and apply pressure to the top, the case bends and makes a "click" sound where the notches should be snapping into place. It always bugs me.
Given that mine doesn't shut tight properly, I'm going to return it to Amazon if I don't hear back soon, and get the Commuter.
Anyway, I hope that helps you. Refer to my original thread for more info.
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Thanks and yeah I saw your thread already. I'm not interested in the defender since it's too big. The one thing I don't like about the cyclops is the built in screen protector. I actually don't need a thick case but I just like to change it up with some options since I currently own thin cases.
I would also like to add: avoid this case if you ever plan on taking it off. Mine ripped after the eighth removal (I've been putting it on as I leave the house, as I wait to hear back from the RMA process), at a really crucial spot. Really poor design. What a shame.
I'm going to return mine to the Amazon seller and just get an Otterbox Commuter (unless something better shows up).

Galaxy S4 Case VS Bumper

I have a Galaxy S4 and am using an Otterbox Defender Case. It's the one with the inner plastic shell and outer silicone shell with a screen protector. So far, I like it, it does provide max protection. Phone slipped while trying to hold the door open for someone while I was talking on the phone. Anyways, great protection but I'm already on my second silicone shell already. My first one stretched quite a bit because I've been trying to get a microSD card to work and so took apart the case quite a bit. I highly doubt Otterbox is going to send me a third silicone shell especially as I'm planning on taking it off again now to manually replace the home button and battery.
I recently saw the DRACOdesign Hydra bumper and it looks SICK! Just wondering if anyone know anything about the drop protection? I don't think I'll be throwing my phone off of a 30 story building anytime soon, but I do want a bit of protection in terms of having a working phone if it does fall. Do bumpers really work? Btw, I'm looking at an aluminum bumper, not those silicone or TPU wrap arounds as pretty sure they will still stretch.
Any general experiences, pros and cons of each? Thanks, really appreciate it
How many times to you take you case on and off.
I swap out the Otterbox and Zero lemon rugged case all the time.
No problems so far.
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How many times to you take you case on and off.
I swap out the Otterbox and Zero lemon rugged case all the time.
No problems so far.
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Quite a few times actually. I have received two faulty microSD cards and so you can imagine me being stupid enough to put on the Otterbox case and then taking it off when trying to get the microSD cards to work even after constantly running it through several utilities. The point is, I know that the shell stretches and I'm on my second one. I have taken it off a few times already so really considering a bumper.
I use a bumper case and have used both TPU and aluminium, but I cannot recommend them for more than light protection. Yeah, I've dropped my phone once or twice in the last year or so (S3) but I'd not have had terribly high hopes that it would have survived being dropped from ear height with any of the bumpers I've used unless it had the luck of falling on some very soft grass.
I don't know if the DRACO bumpers exhibit enough difference in alloy to not do so, but the one I had only offered protection by simply deforming as aluminium is want to do as it is such a soft metal. I lost a chunk out of the corner and it was also a pain to take on and off. It also basically directly transferred the shock to the phone so I'm lucky it didn't outright break because of that. Unless someone has compelling evidence I would consider them a fashion item, not for protection (when it comes to someone who is likely to drop their phone more than once or twice a year and who doesn't want dents and scratches all over the super sleek and shiny bumper).
I find it curious that the silicone shell on yours is deforming so much, I used a 100% silicone case for a couple months at one point and it's still in good, non-deformed condition. Maybe try a different model or company that offers equal protection ? (I know there were other "heavy duty" cases for the S3 other than the Otterbox)
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I use a bumper case and have used both TPU and aluminium, but I cannot recommend them for more than light protection. Yeah, I've dropped my phone once or twice in the last year or so (S3) but I'd not have had terribly high hopes that it would have survived being dropped from ear height with any of the bumpers I've used unless it had the luck of falling on some very soft grass.
I don't know if the DRACO bumpers exhibit enough difference in alloy to not do so, but the one I had only offered protection by simply deforming as aluminium is want to do as it is such a soft metal. I lost a chunk out of the corner and it was also a pain to take on and off. It also basically directly transferred the shock to the phone so I'm lucky it didn't outright break because of that. Unless someone has compelling evidence I would consider them a fashion item, not for protection (when it comes to someone who is likely to drop their phone more than once or twice a year and who doesn't want dents and scratches all over the super sleek and shiny bumper).
I find it curious that the silicone shell on yours is deforming so much, I used a 100% silicone case for a couple months at one point and it's still in good, non-deformed condition. Maybe try a different model or company that offers equal protection ? (I know there were other "heavy duty" cases for the S3 other than the Otterbox)
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turns out the draco is just for design, will pretty much dent completely on impact. i'm pretty sure otterbox uses a silicone shell instead of tpu and as my understanding goes, silicone is much softer than tpu and more prone to stretching probably makes it easier to put a phone inside a case and such. however, i'd still much rather stick with otterbox than ballistic or incipio or spigen. just curious if i should switch to bumper for moderate drop protection and to have a minimalist design.
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turns out the draco is just for design, will pretty much dent completely on impact. i'm pretty sure otterbox uses a silicone shell instead of tpu and as my understanding goes, silicone is much softer than tpu and more prone to stretching probably makes it easier to put a phone inside a case and such. however, i'd still much rather stick with otterbox than ballistic or incipio or spigen. just curious if i should switch to bumper for moderate drop protection and to have a minimalist design.
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Why do poo poo Ballistic? They make awesome cases. I've taken off the case many times and the inner silicone is still like new. And on youtube, there's a video of someone doing a drop test from 3 stories high, and the phone survived beautifully. I've personally thrown mine up into the air 20ft or so onto concrete, and nothing happened to the phone. Btw, it is the Ballistic SG case I'm talking about. It has good sized corner bumpers on it.

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