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Powermat now at Best Buy

My local Best Buy has Powermats for the Evo out now. They have the battery door by itself for $35 and a set that comes with a single width mat and battery cover for $60. I didn't get one because I use a case but I thought I would share because I know some of you were excited to get one.

Yep confirmed 59.99.

Can't use - camera lens unprotected.

nabbed said:
Can't use - camera lens unprotected.
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camera lens is protected. i posted a few pics here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8708060#post8708060

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Can't use - camera lens unprotected.
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you know the stock evo comes with the lens protected. The lens is down inside the phone and has a protective window (which everyone keeps calling a lens) that it looks through.
This case appears to have some added bulk to keep the WINDOW off surfaces.

I love mine. I'm not a fan of cases, although it wouldn't be too difficult to hack up a silicon or tpu case to make it fit. I just appreciate not having wires to use anymore.

I picked up a powermat last night for my evo.
It seems to work pretty well, the fit is good, and only adds about 1 mm to the thickness of the battery door. The sprint silicone case fits over it with no modifications needed.
The mat is only fully powered when it detects a device to charge. It has a single magnet for alignment, and is easy to center on the pad as needed. There is also audible feedback when the phone is detected and the power is turned on.
It will charge through the standard sprint silicone case, but the alignment is not as easy, and I didn't try to check if the charging rate was changed by the extra case.
The compass in the phone seems to still work with a slight wobble to "north", while turning the phone 360 deg. The magnetic field strength reading is boosted to over 60/48ths , but calibrating the magnometer seems to allow compass use.

This is the same price as on the powermat website and you don't have to pay tax if you buy directly or shipping if you choose ground UPS. Wouldn't buying from best buy mean you're paying tax?
I'd just put it on my amex and if anything happened, they'd cover it.
They don't seem to sell it via the BestBuy website, can't even find it there.
Plus, doesn't Best Buy charge a restocking fee. The powermat folks seem to give a full refund in 30 days. Good way to try it out and see if it's worthwhile without the restocking fee.
i have one question about using a powermat itself. IF you plug this into the powermat or lay it down on the strip, whatever, how do you sync with your PC? You still have to hardwire to your desktop don't you? Unless you're always using Google services?

sanjsrik said:
This is the same price as on the powermat website and you don't have to pay tax if you buy directly or shipping if you choose ground UPS. Wouldn't buying from best buy mean you're paying tax?
I'd just put it on my amex and if anything happened, they'd cover it.
They don't seem to sell it via the BestBuy website, can't even find it there.
Plus, doesn't Best Buy charge a restocking fee. The powermat folks seem to give a full refund in 30 days. Good way to try it out and see if it's worthwhile without the restocking fee.
i have one question about using a powermat itself. IF you plug this into the powermat or lay it down on the strip, whatever, how do you sync with your PC? You still have to hardwire to your desktop don't you? Unless you're always using Google services?
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there is no restocking fee for accessories. where did you hear that?

DomSim said:
there is no restocking fee for accessories. where did you hear that?
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Nope, you're right. No restocking fee implictly quoted in their main refund/return policy. Still have to pay tax though.
And, how do you sync the device with your desktop? If you're running bluetooth all the time, it will eat your battery, if you have to hardwire in, kind of makes the powermat irrelevant.

I saw this the other day too when wandering the mobile department. I didn't have a chance to read too carefully into it, but just want to confirm it is still safe to charge via the regular ac adapter/car charger too, right?

Anyone know if the cover would work with a touchstone charger? I guess I'm just too lazy to do the touchstone mod myself and it seems like it might work. Sorry for the dumb question
Sent from my Sprint HTC EVO

With the power mat, does it come with a battery and if so whats the mah?

radar5 said:
I saw this the other day too when wandering the mobile department. I didn't have a chance to read too carefully into it, but just want to confirm it is still safe to charge via the regular ac adapter/car charger too, right?
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Yes it is still safe to plug in a normal ac or car charger.
chandlerw88 said:
With the power mat, does it come with a battery and if so whats the mah?
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No the only thing you are replacing is the battery cover which is used with the mat.
Essentially the battery cover has the magnet and induction charging built into it. That is why there is the little connector on the bottom. Essentially it used the induction cover as the charger to charge the batter through the normal usb connection. Hope this clears up all the confusion and mystery surrounding this. I picked one up myself and I do like it. I only use the leather pouch from HTC which was able to stretch to fit the extra peice on the bottom.

DomSim said:
camera lens is protected. i posted a few pics here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8708060#post8708060
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New review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMsOp0EI6YA .
The reviewer says the the new powermat battery door is flush with the camera lens [protector glass].
If this was true, this battery door is going to make the camera lens even more prone to scratching.

Don't see why you're all crying about the camera "lens"...if it's that big of a deal, put a bulky, useless cover over the damn thing. Otherwise, quit your complaining (or stop being so abusive).
Picked one up yesterday (actually two, but that's another story). LOVE LOVE LOVE that the back door is only slightly thicker..can't even notice it. The "dongle" sticking out is no biggie for me and actually, kind of a nice addition...easier to find "up" and easier to hold the phone in landscape.
It charges about the same speed as my car charger...don't know what the amperage is on it, but it IS slower than my wall outlet.
Anyway, rather than waiting for shipping (best buy didn't have any single mats) I ended up buying another EVO set (door and pad) so I can leave one at work. Looks like I'll be able to pull the setup off the door and stick it on my Overdrive, though

Does anyone know if it will still charge if using a case like seidio active?
I don't think the bottom part will be a problem and it should still work with the holster.
Anyone tried it?
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I haven't tried with a case but I can hold the phone off the pad a ways and it will still charge...
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Mayonesa said:
Does anyone know if it will still charge if using a case like seidio active?
I don't think the bottom part will be a problem and it should still work with the holster.
Anyone tried it?
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I picked up my Powermat this past Sunday and I LOVE IT!
I tried my nice cheap-ie holster from eBay ($3.50), naked, phone faces outward. With the powermat backing installed it DOES NOT fit. It is slightly thicker due to the magnet in the base.
My main motivation for the purchase was obviously to use it wirelessly, which is just amazing (loved it on the Pre, but I think I like powermat better... now if they could just make it available for the PS3 controllers lol), the ulterior motive was to get it so that the camera lens was not touching any flat surface I put it on..... and it doesn't! granted it's only like one millimeter, but still thats more than enough assurance for me!
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Picked one up yesterday (actually two, but that's another story). LOVE LOVE LOVE that the back door is only slightly thicker..can't even notice it. The "dongle" sticking out is no biggie for me and actually, kind of a nice addition...easier to find "up" and easier to hold the phone in landscape.
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Seconded... The little dongle is supported by my little finger just a tad which makes it just a tad easier to hold in landscape.
I thought that was going to be a major no-go for me, but I like it. And it's easy enough to unplug it to allow it to be plugged into the computer.
I don't know if its because of the rom I'm using (airborne 3.1), or because of how the powermat is alleged to charge, but I'm getting A TON better battery life since I installed both airborne 3.1 and the powermat.

Mayonesa said:
Does anyone know if it will still charge if using a case like seidio active?
I don't think the bottom part will be a problem and it should still work with the holster.
Anyone tried it?
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I have tried this and was not happy with the way the case was stretched at the bottom. If anyone wants to see pictures I can try to accommodate and snag some. Also tried out a Otterbox case (no go) and Seidio hip case (tight fit). Some may accept the power bridging powermat has decided to use but I plan to return it for now. I really wish powermat would have designed internal cabling instead. If they ever offer that revision I am down!

{video} wireless charging using touchstone

OK i have managed it, getting the palm touchstone to wirelessly charge the S3
it does bulge the back cover ever so slightly, but new ones are available.. and it will tide me over until the official solution is released in September
it charges slightly slower than with a directly attached cable, about 450ma i get about 950ma from the direct connection.
but it is much less hassle
http://youtu.be/uAqP3T_Mbzg

Wow, I would never have dreamed of trying such madness, yet here's the proof
Sent from my Omega powered monster....
SGS2+.::Indie::.= Omega goodness

Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.

JayGoat said:
Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.
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In all honest its not much, and as you saw the cover still closes ok
It will do for a few months until the oficial cover is available

I have those parts and a soldering iron. I might buy a spare cover and give it a go.
I mounted a touchstone in my car and charged my Pre that way. It would be pretty killer if I could do it with the S3.
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That is a brilliant idea and a good method.. I will also give it a try.
But i am wondering if samsung is planning to release somewhat familiar technology officially? it looks very user friendly!!

vanada said:
That is a brilliant idea and a good method.. I will also give it a try.
But i am wondering if samsung is planning to release somewhat familiar technology officially? it looks very user friendly!!
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Ues there is plans, they say around september, will be a new back cover and a charging pad
Search google for Samsung S3 wireless charger, and you will see it
I had the touchstone, and a back cover spare, and i thought i would make use of it until the genuine item is available

JayGoat said:
Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.
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try to replace normal wire by copper wire like I did and the backcover is perfectly fit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27586305&postcount=22

hopefully more ideas can be shared. Copper tape might work well

Wireless Charger W/Case Otterbox Defender(trident)MOD

Okay so i got the official wireless charger back cover from Verizon. With the wireless back on the phone(it adds some thickness) none of my cases would fit anymore. So If you bend the back cover with the wireless charger on it. The charger will begin to slowly peel away and off of the case. You can then transfer it to your new case. So i pulled it apart and put it in my otterbox defender case(i also put it in my trident kraken case and it worked). Works like a charm. If you have any questions just ask! also if you like the mod hit the thanksss button for me

Wow awesome idea! Great job man

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Wow awesome idea! Great job man
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Hey thanks

Awesome!!
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When you took out the back battery cover and put the otterbox defender on top of it,
Did it create gapps on the hole of the camera, speaker, and flash where debris or dirt can
Easily get inside?
Can you take a picture of the back of the phone with the inductive charger put in while inside of the otterbox case please?

I never noticed it till i took this picture. However im probly going to cut the camera section off of the verizon case and glue it inside the otterbox so it seals that gap

I cut out a rectangle around the camera section of a pebble blue battery cover i got for free. put it in the case and you can see it fills int he gap.
I had to give my phone/case a good cleaning after looking at these pics lol

Does the charger tell you when the battery is charged?
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The charging pad beeps when your phone starts/stops charging. It also has a green battery light that flashes while charging and will stop flashing and stay on when the phone is done charging.

Where?
Can I please ask where you guys are getting your wireless charging cover? It is out of stock on VZW's website, and I even went to a local corporate store and they told me all the regional warehouses are out of stock and a back-order for one can't even be placed!
Thanks, please advise!!

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Can I please ask where you guys are getting your wireless charging cover? It is out of stock on VZW's website, and I even went to a local corporate store and they told me all the regional warehouses are out of stock and a back-order for one can't even be placed!
Thanks, please advise!!
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We have a few here locally, I can get it and ship to you if you'd like
Sent from my SCH-I535

I read on here someone ordered one off amazon a few days ago. Outside of that your best bet would be to order one through the guy above me.

flashcity90 said:
I cut out a rectangle around the camera section of a pebble blue battery cover i got for free. put it in the case and you can see it fills int he gap.
I had to give my phone/case a good cleaning after looking at these pics lol
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that is what i was thinking too as well but i called a few verizon stores here in SF and seems like none of them has it..

I successfully did it to my otterbox. Was not hard

any other brand with wireless charging on the market?

Ttblondey said:
any other brand with wireless charging on the market?
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the battery door? it's a Samsung ONLY product for now

WinDroidGuy said:
the battery door? it's a Samsung ONLY product for now
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I mean the device to charge the phone.

Ttblondey said:
I mean the device to charge the phone.
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You can buy this from Amazon, it's what I use and works great
It's even gone down in price $3 since I bought it

WinDroidGuy said:
You can buy this from Amazon, it's what I use and works great
It's even gone down in price $3 since I bought it
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Thanks fro the link.

Damn wish i would have seen that before i paid 50 for verizons....

Touchstone inductive wireless back cover for sale on ebay

I just bought one for myself! Too good to pass up (or at least try)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150903840091

Price? Blocked at work.

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Price? Blocked at work.
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30 bucks... link is to a pebble back....
it appears they are modifying a non- oem back kinda like the palm mod but with actual pins instead of playing with copper tape
oh and for an extra 30 bucks (60) they will send you a touchstone too.... all from hong kong
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Just found this one or 30.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3ccb30692f
and it comes with a touchstone.... and from nyc... both colors...
now it starts to make some sense to buy a pre-made.....

probably over thinking this but will it charge with a phone case?

I ordered one of these two weeks ago, got it in 4 days (need to sign for the package). Sadly, one of the pins had broken off in shipping, but the seller responded in about ten minutes and has a new one in the mail already.
Product appears to be pretty well made, but the back cover they use a little dinky - the letters are inlaid in silver and one already fell out - so now I have a Samung. I plan to remove the charger circuit and stick inside my existing cover.

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I ordered one of these two weeks ago, got it in 4 days (need to sign for the package). Sadly, one of the pins had broken off in shipping, but the seller responded in about ten minutes and has a new one in the mail already.
Product appears to be pretty well made, but the back cover they use a little dinky - the letters are inlaid in silver and one already fell out - so now I have a Samung. I plan to remove the charger circuit and stick inside my existing cover.
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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)

Does anyone know if the touchstone will work with a basic TPU case on the phone? Not sure if the magnets or charging field is strong enough....

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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)
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Mine is entirely flush (T-Mobile version).
FWIW; the circuit he uses is out of Palm devices - even says "Palm Inc" on the product. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

i'm kinda leery of how the gap pops up... could they not have used pins that are spring loaded so it actually adjusts for the different variants out there?

well taking another look on his ad... it seems just the back is 29.99... if you select it with the touchstone it's 49.99
20 bucks for something amazon has for 5... i dont think so.....

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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)
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i'm kinda leery of how the gap pops up... could they not have used pins that are spring loaded so it actually adjusts for the different variants out there?
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They are spring loaded. As I said, on mine, you can't tell it is on there. It does NOT charge through a case.

ScottC said:
They are spring loaded. As I said, on mine, you can't tell it is on there. It does NOT charge through a case.
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well damn.. they must be some hardcore springs to keep the backing to snap into place 0.o''''''
EDIT: if it doesn't charge through the case, that's a big issue for me.. I prefer not to take my case off and on every time I want to charge the device... I guess i'll have to wait for the Qi alternative to be viable

How are the magnets on the one you purchase from ebay?

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well damn.. they must be some hardcore springs to keep the backing to snap into place 0.o''''''
EDIT: if it doesn't charge through the case, that's a big issue for me.. I prefer not to take my case off and on every time I want to charge the device... I guess i'll have to wait for the Qi alternative to be viable
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Well crap if it doesnt work through a case i guess im out too
or is it "some cases""

asjeep said:
Well crap if it doesnt work through a case i guess im out too
or is it "some cases""
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Tried several cases from hard to tpu and none worked.

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Tried several cases from hard to tpu and none worked.
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Sounds like (and it makes sense one of the "open back" cases aka a bumper will work.....

Whoever said the back sits completely flush on his galaxy s iii can you post some pictures? That is the only part of this that is making me hesitant, I don't want the back not clipping on properly.
Also does anyone know if this charging door would work with the energizer charging pad or the powermat charging pad?

it will definitly not work with the energizer mat since that's Qi technology while the touchstone uses a slightly different variation.

Case
I have no problem charging with Spigen Neo case installed - both Touchstone and/or the Qi setup...

Hi Guys,
This is a back cover in cheapr price US$28 below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200821599660?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
You can also find $55 with full set of back cover + touchstone below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200819474696?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

[Q] anyone got the Qi charging quick circle folio case?

I just got mine. And it doesn't seem to charge when put on a Qi pad.
Anyone got one and have it working properly?
(and yes I do know mine is a charging back; has the little contact points and all.)
Contacted LG and they said that there is no compatible quick circle folio case for the G4. And that is it a Verizon market scheme to get you to buy their stuff. I told them about all the official LG stuff on the box (including ORIGINAL LG accessory hologram). Amazing...

I have one from Korea. It might be a knock off but it had the hologram sticker. Charging works fine but I am having some random reboots since I put it on. And the phone is not waking up when I open the case and double tap to wake is fussy. Going to put on my leather on and see if the problem goes away. Between this and Lg screwing me on the promo for the US because I bought an international phone this thing might be on Swappa shortly. Feeling a little but hurt.

Yeah I got a free Quickcircle case with my phone, but it also doesn't work with Qi ><
Infuriating useless conflicting standards...... BETAMAX WAS BETTER DAMN IT!!!

nadram said:
Yeah I got a free Quickcircle case with my phone, but it also doesn't work with Qi ><
Infuriating useless conflicting standards...... BETAMAX WAS BETTER DAMN IT!!!
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And you got the official LG one that supports wireless charging? Which carrier do you have?

I think there are several cases out there. Some support the wireless charging, and some don't.
But if it doesn't you'll just need to buy the qi sticker to replace it.

xShadoWxDrifTx said:
I think there are several cases out there. Some support the wireless charging, and some don't.
But if it doesn't you'll just need to buy the qi sticker to replace it.
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This is the one I bought. Clearly it should...
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...ick-circle-folio-case-for-lg-g4-violet-black/

RedBullet said:
This is the one I bought. Clearly it should...
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...ick-circle-folio-case-for-lg-g4-violet-black/
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Can I cut the front part of this circle case and put the back door on an existing case?

I have the Verizon G4. I bought the QuickCircle Folio with Powermat+NFC for AT&T models on eBay, thinking that it might work as-is, or else I could swap out the sticker to make it work with Qi. It turns out that it works on my Tylt Qi charger right out of the box! http://www.ebay.com/itm/151704461178

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Can I cut the front part of this circle case and put the back door on an existing case?
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I am like you ,does anyone have the answer to this ? Is there something on this front cover that would prevent this from working with it being on there , any insight on this would be appreciated thanks

mike_augie said:
I am like you ,does anyone have the answer to this ? Is there something on this front cover that would prevent this from working with it being on there , any insight on this would be appreciated thanks
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I got those wireless stickers to finally work. Look for that main thread for my fix.

Is anyone else having problems with there folio case. I took mine off and battery life came back, tap to wake works and no more random reboots on my H815 SEA version.

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And you got the official LG one that supports wireless charging? Which carrier do you have?
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It is official LG, and it doesn't work with my Qi charger (Tylt Vu) which still works fine with my Nexus 5.
I did not buy this from a carrier, it's the H818P