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[Q] Where are the dev's going?

My evo was recently afflicted with a USB fail, and will not charge and is out of warranty. It quite simply is the best phone i've ever owned, but i must move on to the next great device. One of the biggest selling points of a new phone, for me, is developer support.
I'm leaning towards an Evo 3D.. but the upcoming Galaxy S II makes it difficult to pull the trigger on a the preorder. Any thoughts?

Evo 3D is where devs are going.....most of them.
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Yup, that's what I've read, too. Agreed.
Not to mention, I think anyone who has had an HTC, would have a hard time enjoying a samsung.
I just don't understand HOW so many Evo owners are moving to Evo 3D. I mean, I got my Evo on launch day (june 4th -also the same day the gb ota became avail, 1 whole yr later, still support). I know im not eligible for upgrade til feb, and that's only PARTIAL upgrade price.
Is everyone else shelling out the 500-600$ ?
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i've heard almost all are going to the evo 3d. same place i will (hopefully) be going.

androidpolice.com/2011/06/13/psa-psst-you-can-get-one-last-sprint-premiere-yearly-upgrade-heres-how/
Go here it explains how to get 1 last 2 year updrade
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Thinking of ditching my evo... Any bugs?

So my mom has an upgrade and really wants an Evo. She said shed be willing to trade if I bought the et4g on her upgrade so I could get a shiny new epic touch and she could have a miui'd evo. Heres my question to all you new et4g owners: what are the problems you've been experiencing so far? Either hardware or software I just want to know what I'll be jumping into after dropping 200 dollars...

Random app closures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265828

none so far...smooth as my bottom...

I say, go right ahead and do it and don't even look back! Not to many people have the opportunity. Just traded my evo 4g for it there isn't one phone out now that can beat this. The battery is super awesome especially if coming from an evo. The browser is awesome get full sites using about:useragent, it's lightweight and the size of the screen is awesome. I Just wish it was the 5.3" that is out in Europe.

Dude... Get it! You will not regret it. There is a poll around here and the last time I looked, there are just as many evo users as there is epic1 users that moved to this phone
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Yup replaced my well warn evo that i still love. This phone is tits.. Plain and simple
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kawaski47 said:
Yup replaced my well warn evo that i still love. This phone is tits.. Plain and simple
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Tits eh? Couldn't have said it better myself. I have this sudden urge to lick the phone, now look what you've done.

I haven't found any bugs yet.

Phone's running perfectly for me. Sprint and Samsung have delivered well thus far.

There are only 2 things that I have found not working as of now, 1 being the Social Hub isn't allowing us to log in, and the other is the weather widget which isn't automatically changing location.
This is by far the BEST phone out as of now! I've been from EVO 4G, to EVO 3D, and I personally am not missing either 1 now. Couldn't of said the same going from the 4G to the 3D, as it was noticeably faster, but I really was never awed! The SII has definitely awed me again! Sorta like when we all first got our 4G's...
If you can make the switch, don't hesitate, and make sure you kiss your mom for taking your EVO off you and getting the SII

do it, you wont regret it.
i dropped my evo for this and it is well worth it!

I'm leaving my evo4g its been very good to be, so I will not dam the bridge I have crossed, but sadly say he will be missed.
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Uamore6 said:
I'm leaving my evo4g its been very good to be, so I will not dam the bridge I have crossed, but sadly say he will be missed.
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Yup i love my evo still. Still debating on selling it to recoup costs
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I think it would be a little foolhardy to upgrade right now. Let the early adopters be the beta testers. Also, we don't know what will happen with iP5, Nexus', and Ice Cream Sandwich around the corner. Sit back and wait another month or two.

Minjin said:
I think it would be a little foolhardy to upgrade right now. Let the early adopters be the beta testers. Also, we don't know what will happen with iP5, Nexus', and Ice Cream Sandwich around the corner. Sit back and wait another month or two.
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This phone is easily ten times better than those phones. I came from an Evo and i dont regret it forba second. Even wthout root my phone still lasts all day. Cant say that about any other phone lol.
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Minjin said:
I think it would be a little foolhardy to upgrade right now. Let the early adopters be the beta testers. Also, we don't know what will happen with iP5, Nexus', and Ice Cream Sandwich around the corner. Sit back and wait another month or two.
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And when those phone come out, wait another month or two for other phones to come out. That cycle never ends.

Two words. Do it.
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Dj21o said:
This phone is easily ten times better than those phones. I came from an Evo and i dont regret it forba second. Even wthout root my phone still lasts all day. Cant say that about any other phone lol.
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I mentioned two phone names and one operating system, none of the three of which have been since by outsiders. So how exactly are you coming to the conclusion that your phone is "easily ten times better than those phones"?
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And when those phone come out, wait another month or two for other phones to come out. That cycle never ends.
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Your argument depends on there never being a good time to upgrade, that there is no such thing as a release cycle or big releases. If a new and improved phone came out every day or we knew nothing about future products and future release dates, your oft repeated but ill thought out argument would be true. In fact, the industry does work on cycles and there are big product releases so it only makes sense to purchase with those in mind.

Your argument depends on there never being a good time to upgrade, that there is no such thing as a release cycle or big releases. If a new and improved phone came out every day or we knew nothing about future products and future release dates, your oft repeated but ill thought out argument would be true. In fact, the industry does work on cycles and there are big product releases so it only makes sense to purchase with those in mind.
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You seem uniformed and blind to the difference between "big releases" and hype. The SGSII is a huge release and one of the most highly anticipated Android phones ever. Going back to your "beta tester" comment, the SGSII has been out for months and has earned near perfect ratings across the board. The ET4G is just a variant so please don't go down that road.
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I think this devise is gonna be top notch for along time. I was worried that when Prime dropped I would regret getting E4GT but after having it for a couple days Im happy I got it. I love TW4 it works smooth and fast and if E4GT gets good support from the top delvs it will stay on or near the top for a long time. I always thought the Epic4G was way better hardware than the EVO and look how that turned out.
Get this phone and dont look back

E4gt future proof

So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"

which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....

Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.

Trickee360 said:
So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.

When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.

The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.

Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.

sfhub said:
Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.

worldwidepmp said:
I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated

G1-8701 said:
Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.

buggerritt said:
There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!

IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.

The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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Trickee360 said:
I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...

I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!

Whats Next? Where Will We Go From Here?

I hope this isnt a re-post
I am curious as to what device if you were to switch would you be switching to?Seeing as Sprint is moving in the direction of LTE very fast starting with the launch of its first 2 devices coming this weekend the Galaxy Nexus and the LG Viper, who is ready for the switch?
Evo 4g LTE?- Definitley an interest for me
Galaxy Nex?
LG Viper?
Galaxy S3?
Samsung Note?
iPhone 5?
Just wanted some thoughts thank you

I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.

dmexs said:
I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.
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this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)

Well I'm giving the Gnex a whirl & if I like it, gonna hold onto it till the GS3 comes. I had my eye on the Note too but if it ships with anything less then ICS, I'll pass. I thought about the EVO LTE but any form of Sense is now a deal breaker for me. At least Samsung's TW is not so in your face like Sense is.

Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half. Lte wont hit my region for at least 10-14 months and my WiMax speeds are freaking awesome. So I am very pleased with my ET4G.
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Most likely staying put until SG3 comes out but I'll give each new phone a look. LTE will not factor into my decision as it's unlikely I'll see it in my area for a few years yet.

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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half.
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I wished I had your patience, Lol.

Sprints lte he will not be deployed in my area until the end of the year. So it looks like my next upgrade most likely will be the galaxy s3, Or maybe even a windows 8 phone.
That being said I love this phone so that might not happen for a long time.

someguyatx said:
Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
haha

kingdazy said:
this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)
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im only basing this off of my inside info ( which isnt much prob lees than most of you) but it appears we will be supporting wimax in the new roll out of LTE as for what I understand is sprint will now be a tri-band network wimx 2.5ghz LTE 1.9ghz and 800mhz voice ( eventually 800mhz LTE) so I am pretty sure we will still have our support for long after a year or so( dont quote me thou i mean this is Sprint we are talking about lol)

wimax will be supported till at least 2015 which means one two year upgrade cycle. long enough for all of us to enjoy wimax if we have it and for others to enjoy network vision and lte asvit expands.
Sgs3

My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You know i find myself asking this everytime i have sex.
Jk i never had sex
Forever alone

I will be considering the SGSIII. If it knocks my socks off I'll buy it and sell my E4GT. WiMax is only available in tiny little pockets around San Diego (and its unofficial), so the LTE rollout isn't holding me back as I don't use 4G anyways. If the SGSIII doesn't do it for me I'll be using this phone until 9/15/2013 then see how things look, both from a device and carrier perspective.

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My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You expect to be wowed by a new iPhone? Have you been wowed by Any iPhone?
The iPhone ui/ux has been largely unchanged in years. Android on the other hand...
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BigRitz said:
I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
haha
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On my old phone the best roms and themes came out of the woodwork after all the mainstream devs jumped ship. With so many of these being sold we will likely see some great things by the end of the year. People are still drooling over this phone when they see it. Today I was in a busy lunch spot for guys in suits and while in line then eating as I played with my baby I saw them all stealing glances at her as they glared at their iphones in disgust.
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And for the record I will not be getting rid of this ET4G as I have learned so much from it and this community it now has centimental value to me, that i havent yet had with other phones(go ahead laugh i was while writing it ) but yea the touch has inspired me to learn new things and take my time learning.

For me, its coming down to the GSIII or the next iPhone. The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone, but im sure ill be getting the GSIII.

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The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone... .
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that statement makes no sense to me...
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Asurion claim

My epic 4g touch was cool when it was new since it was so different. Once the newness wore off, I have been missing HTC ever since. The reception has always been bad, it gets laggy on strange things, and now even after wiping battery stats my phone will go from 50% battery straight to 0. It's time for an insurance claim anyway, but has anyone heard of Asurion switching s2's for an evo 4g lte, or maybe even a new photon? I would just buy one, but I'm still 6 months from a $75 off upgrade. Just checking because I saw some posts from August about Asurion forcing people to take an OG evo 4g.

Call them and ask them what other devices they might be able to offer you rather than the SGS2. I doubt they will budge and give you an evo LTE because LTE and price different according to them ins't in the same Tier as WiMax devices. Just saying what they told me and others many times.

Doubt it. Asurion's exchange list is almost always similar to ours, and currently for the E4GT that consists of the evo 3d and OG photon.
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Doubt it. Asurion's exchange list is almost always similar to ours, and currently for the E4GT that consists of the evo 3d and OG photon.
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An og photon I might actually go for. I had a good run with Asurion before. I went from a palm treo, to a mogul, to a touch pro, then to a touch pro 2 all through insurance. My plan is to try and do my half upgrade in June when the new 5" HTC phone launches, assuming sprint will get it. I'm just trying to jump Samsung ship before then.

A month ago my wife's Verizon droid charge (garbage phone) was smashed. Since they replaced 3 under warranty they gave her a galaxy nexus which is a massive upgrade! The first two people we talked to would not do it. The 3rd did do it. In that case They might upgrade you. Since you have an epic no. Flash GA10 and you will enjoy. I had the power button fail on my epic that is over a year old. Ive flashed it a bizillion times. Its been with me at work and family trips.Its been great. So I paid the $100 and had a new one sent. It was brand new, never opened 12-2-2012 build. Im loving it. In no way am i saying try to switch phones! As i just spent money to keep mine. E4GT!

Not all phones are created equal. My "old" e4gt has always been "solid" with wifi/3g/4g. My sister's old e4gt on the other hand not so great.
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Kudos to Miketuky for sticking up for our beloved E4GT, after all this is the E4GT forum. We aren't supposed to talk people out of getting an Epic.
My Epic's are 14 months old now and after the JB FK23 update they feel like new phones.
Common guys, keep up the faith.
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Kudos to Miketuky for sticking up for our beloved E4GT, after all this is the E4GT forum. We aren't supposed to talk people out of getting an Epic.
My Epic's are 14 months old now and after the JB FK23 update they feel like new phones.
Common guys, keep up the faith.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.
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I love this phone and the xda community is awesome & very helpful to everyone. Sprint was going to let me upgrade early to the s3 but i opted out cause this phone is kick ass. Jelly bean leaks really brought out the potential of this exynos processor. I in no way was intending on talking people into switching phones. Sorry if it came out that way. My last epic was 14 months also I loved it & I Still do. I received a new one today and it has me just as excited as I was nov 2011 when I first purchased this phone.
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