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HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. Any rom that i try and install
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.
likingandroid said:
HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. All the roms I try to select gives
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.
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first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.
I think people need to know what a "Brick" is...
siulmagic said:
first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.
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Sorry, Posted from a Blackberry
I tried both. Can you explain how to re-flash the recovery? Perhaps I am not doing this correctly.
its not briked, he can still acces the recovery. if anything its a semi brick
Do more researching my friend
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Do more researching my friend
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Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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Amen!
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TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.
GunToYoMouth123 said:
well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.
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Well said is quite the understatement. Has anyone seriously tried doing searches on this site for stuff? Sometimes you do find what you're looking for fairly easily, other times you can't find a damn thing that should be readily available. And if you're in panic mode because you think you just bricked your phone, are you going to search this entire site for an answer that might not show up in your search results? Hell no, you'd probably just create a new thread begging for help.
If you can't contribute and only talk down to people, shut your ass up. No one needs that type of attitude here.
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I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.
TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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I couldn't agree more! Thanks for saying it.
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Most of them just want their super cool post count up. I'm hopefully going to root my DZ tomorrow. Only got it today.
Is everybody like that in this section? Everybody was awesome in the HD2 section.
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I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.
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I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.
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I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.
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I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.
Well when I was new to this I thought I broke my brand new first day g2 because I got a boot loop (talk about panic mode xD) well I did my research and got it fixed thanks to me making a back up as soon as I flashed cwm...if anything it inspired me to get back at it...my advice back up your original shipping rom before you think about screwing around with stuff well now my g2 hinge is messed up extreamly loose so I'm returning it to stock :'( and sending it in....did I mention I'm 16? Be smartdont screw up
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I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.
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youre right name calling is uncalled for
I apologized if I have offended anyone
Update on HTC G2 Crashed and Bricked
I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.
likingandroid said:
I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.
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Glad you got it fixed.
Hey, since official thread was closed based on Shaky's request, I have opened new, unofficial one, so that there is no need to spam development threads where it does not belong to. There was starting some talk about Kernel 3.0, maybe some experienced ones can enlight this topic.
No offensive or dirty words, please.
To much smoke with no fire...
Not really sure that there will be something from it.
But let's wait and see.
Dafuq? Two threads plus development not enough?
all Shaky's threads are locked so not enough...
personaly i would say get the message... 3 threads locked. message recieved
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come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed, but it does not mean community cannot talk about it...
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come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed...
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now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
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LOL I clearly remember when Shaky appeared on the Desire forums before the device was bought, there was this guy from DHD forum who commented " Oh shaky you're now here! After shaking a lot and not baking anything in the DHD" .. hahaha.. I feel really sorry for all of you who kept saying"oh shaky plz do sense 4 for us and you're god and what not!" All rubbish..
What I find hard to understand that why would a dev never talk about what's working and what's not behind the scenes ??? Not even in dev forum? People stopped writing in dev as per his request.. what happened at the end ???
All bull****! I'm not saying that he can't do something, only he knows better, but the way people have been treated in his forums are disgusting.. it never happened in threads in the likes of leedroid or coolexe etc.. everyone was given a chance to express and be heard..
I feel these new so called dev are "noobs" than normal users the people are maintaining their threds
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now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
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yes, I want them to talk about it, and omg, they were locked because Shaky wanted it, not moderators (except of some warnings in development thread). If it was because he did not want to read about it or any other reason, it does not matter, I just don't want this topic to die (when still some hope is alive, maybe).
Back to topic, in Droid Incredible forum I have read that PureMotive had some talk with Shaky and sbryan like 4 days ago and that guy sbryan is most probably looking into that audio issue... we will see
Conclusion : leave shaky alone, he's working hard for us and there is no need to make him under pression.
About this topic, mmmh ... too words, not enough acts ?
To me this thread looks like disrespect to shaky coz he closed two of them already clearly for a reason.
And now again will be the same everybody taking and nobody can actually provide even a simple logcat, you know how many tutorials with step by step explanations have been posted on xda lately for everything: porting ics, compiling kernel, compiling roms from source, kernel optimizations, modding,etc do why non of the talkatives take some time off their life and start working on porting sense 4 and/or kernel 3.0? Seriously this thread would be so much productive rather than waiting and pushing one person to the edge?m?
Does it make sense?
If I had time to waste for ungrateful users I'd work on this myself- however real life and work for now are more important to me.but I bet if any of you read the tutorials and got to know insides of android you could port it yourself. Even DK and Sandvold and Sebastian started like this by experimenting.
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You guys want the perfect and official answer? PM to him
And my estimation of your next answer is
"How did I forget that!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: "
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Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
When shaky was soliciting donations to buy his Desire you just had to check his history here at XDA to realize he is a prima donna that will probably let you down (if you chipped in for his phone). As the saying goes...he's all hat but no cattle. So I stayed well away.
Now, when laidbacknikez was doing the same (getting donations to buy a new Desire for developing) I did donate to him. He not only sent out a personal thank you note, he has delivered a fantastic ROM in spades...and I would bet he will give us Jellybean a well.
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MrUrgit said:
Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
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thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])
zakka1da said:
thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])
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everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
Lothaen said:
everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
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i agree, i onced used aurora rom but never really checked the thread after that. so yeah it was a good find and im glad that sense 4 is being worked on BUT now there is gona be 200+ atleast more people who are gona read this thread and click the link and its gona eventually lead to useless posts and comments just like shakys threads. i could be and hope im wrong but thats what i think.
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One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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nlooooo said:
One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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Let it go man. If we can't make people stop creating threads to discuss what is the best rom of them all, we can't stop this thread too. :silly:
What the hell is that sabsa prime topic? The best sense4 rom in this forum, wtf close topic? Are you f**l?
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please thanks to support him
i support alirez, please reopen the forum:good::good::good::good::good:
Read what happen and think about it. The rom maker took other Dev works, didn't gave them credits, even argue about not giving a thing about the credits cause it's a community made for sharing. But by the rules of xda (and by the rule he said himself, open source community, which exist by a name I forgot and I don't feel like searching, google it), when you take others work, you have to ask permission of nowhere it is said that you can use it/ modify it and you have, unless said otherwise by the Dev, to give credit for the work. It is simple respect among fellow Dev and is a normal thing in the world. Do you say thanks when someone hand you something you asked or needed? Same thing here.
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AA369 said:
i support alirez, please reopen the forum:good::good::good::good::good:
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read the rules first.
I'm using sabsa v3.0 rom currently. As much i appreciate for having such a great rom, proper rules must still be followed.
nodiaque said:
Read what happen and think about it. The rom maker took other Dev works, didn't gave them credits, even argue about not giving a thing about the credits cause it's a community made for sharing. But by the rules of xda (and by the rule he said himself, open source community, which exist by a name I forgot and I don't feel like searching, google it), when you take others work, you have to ask permission of nowhere it is said that you can use it/ modify it and you have, unless said otherwise by the Dev, to give credit for the work. It is simple respect among fellow Dev and is a normal thing in the world. Do you say thanks when someone hand you something you asked or needed? Same thing here.
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ur right, rules are rules, and its legit he got his thread closed. STILL, why ppl cant talk about this, and he can add credits in his thread to the right devs doin good work... its late, but still, his rom obviously is way better than nik... dont know why two devs never could work together and stop being selfish. both dev's did great work, but it really isnt necessary to drive crazy cause of wrong credits. just fix this, apologize and work together... grow up guys
my english is rly bad tbh while im raging like hell
alirez copy something ( long press on times mod)from nikhil007mmu s rom
Mukanna said:
alirez copy something ( long press on times mod)from nikhil007mmu s rom
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not only that......the camera was fixed my niks team....but sabsa prime thread gave thanks to some other member
and he didnt mention anywhere that he took niks ROM..........
In the end of the day users still loose, dont care which way u look at it.
PS- Glad i rolled back to 2.1 and im keeping it until something better appears.
hope they can settle about the credit issues, since sabsa is the best sense 4 rom for DHD currently (my view), no offense :fingers-crossed:
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hope they can settle about the credit issues, since sabsa is the best sense 4 rom for DHD currently (my view), no offense :fingers-crossed:
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woulkd be first time they get things like this settled
havitoc said:
hope they can settle about the credit issues, since sabsa is the best sense 4 rom for DHD currently (my view), no offense :fingers-crossed:
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Full acknowledge!
Alirez come back whit XxXPachaXxX NERO 2.0 rom =) (by alirez_sos and XxXPachaXxX)
Rule 12
Yes, u r right. But based on rule 12: ( Using the work of others. If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you. Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums. As an addition, developers have the right to hold exclusivity over their work for as long as it is deemed necessary by the dev or freely share it. However, if the work is claimed as exclusive, it must remain as such. No selective sharing will be allowed (ie allowing certain people to use it and not others). Should the dev decide to start sharing the work with others, the work automatically becomes fair game for all to use. In regards to permissions, same rules remain for this but if permission was already given, unless there is a very valid reason, it cannot be revoked (same applies to major updates on the work). Under that same premise, permissions cannot be denied unless the work is exclusive or under severe circumstances. In plain English: If you want to keep your work exclusive, go for it. However, if you are going to share your work, do it fairly. These rules apply to all software posted on XDA (including but not limited to ROMs, RUUs, apps, games, kernels, themes, icons, etc) unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules. )
Ad the nik work already share by other, then every dev. Can use it.
Also Alireza do something wrong to copy without credit and also same for Nik to complain it in open forum.
Anyway closing the topic seems very aggressive.
Anyway I used sabsa and actually it is the only Rom that I prefer to move from ARHD 6.3
Hope all devs solve their issues in private and joint together for Beter development.
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Let us all be calm. The Moderator was quite clear: Thread close for the time being until all solved.
We're talking about MINOR issues. It might even be a mistake from Alirez, perhaps he was lied to (as in, Person X takes camera.apk from Dev Y and gives it to Alirez as if it was developed by him.)
I belive there's a good chance this will be solved, both of them seem reasonable, so let us wait
Damn that's just my luck. I just downloaded and flashed this ROM and really love it Everything working, IMHO so far the best ICS ROM... I hope this problem can be settled in peace so we all can benefit...
Sabsa Prime hands.down the best ics Rom
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Had flashed V3.0 of Sabsa Prime, have to agree was probably slightly better than Nikhil007 rom, IMHO.
Either way it is a shame but lets hope it gets sorted.:fingers-crossed:
He copied his rom and just tweaked some of the rom. Yeah, it was better than Nikhil007. Even though they both lagged a little.
its not as good as they said...i have tried it and its not smooth at all !!!
currently am using xxxpachaxxx nero ROM...the best so far
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when the rule on XDA is:
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, and HTC is no member, why to hold for only one member the right to post ROM's based on HTC work (RUU, OTA, etc)???
And, when a new RUU of OTA is used for developing a ROM, why have the right to don't share with other developers the source and keep only for himself whatever his name is???
Acceptance of such policy will not help HTC community at all, as already proven and give mods just headache.:crying:
P.S. This question is also for mods, the simply answer is to ...don't answer of close thread of delete it but there are coming many annoying new conflicting rules witch make XDA a private club in stead of Share and Care community!
Thanks Laurentius26, I have change the title of this thread.
P.P.S. Rule : Sources need to be posted for all kernels!!! but why not for ROM's also???
P.P.P.S thanks Laurentius26 thread title changed again!
Not a stupid but a good question.
It's because those people can't cook, they need to stay ahead a few steps so they have time to
process the hard work of those other developers in there roms (the people who do share there personal development).
It's pathetic what these cookers do to my opinion, but XDA can't force those people to share.
If you ask those cookers to share, they always have excuses like 'I need to protect my sources' blablabla....
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Not a stupid but a good question.
It's because those people can't cook, they need to stay ahead a few steps so they have time to
process the hard work of those other developers in there roms (the people who do share there personal development).
It's pathetic what these cookers do to my opinion, but XDA can't force those people to share.
If you ask those cookers to share, they always have excuses like 'I need to protect my sources' blablabla....
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(One of the reasons why I go with CM as the only custom rom . Btw this is an old case. And its not just about ROM Cookers but also Kernel "Somethingers" source, patch, mod gatherers ? I do not know how to call them.
Lately there are kernels cooked up with ppl gathering other ppl sources(even through other devices the dev never own and never will) without acknowledgement to the real dev. These ppl having the title "recognized developer" with over 10k thanks feel safe doing so as no one dares to oppose them.
And Laurentius, whats worst, the major community of XDA will back them up in hope for a praise from them or acknowledgement, or a new rom kernel.
Or there is another phenomenon happening, when asking for a fix, feature, just suggesting a functionality. You get an answer "if you dont like it, do not use it" before it was "Ah good idea, I might try it out" or at least "I have no time for this, sorry, but maybe someone else can look into it"
So the real problem is not the Cooker, Gatherer , but the sheepish community not seeing whats happening. That he can exploit something is just his own cleverness.
Trust me, it happens in every forum, even my old one
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I want to step back for a second and remember if we judge each individual with the same set of rules.
And let's not forget that someone else had raised this problem some time ago and now supports the OP.
I think my information is right, please correct me if not.
I totally agree, I can understand when some people say I need to protect my sources such as Football and Xmoo, who do a great deal for this community, but still cannot share everything as they do have sources that could be jepordised by releasing things.
But I do agree that ROM Cookers are getting pissy and perhaps lazy or bored with the community and are now doing it for that "Donate" purpose.
Also, whats doing my head in, and what you may not have seen or agree with but people putting "Use Search" in EVERY THREAD that is being made is really doing my head in. If they keep doing that, when people do search they will only find threads with answers saying "Use the Search"
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Wilks3y said:
I totally agree, I can understand when some people say I need to protect my sources such as Football and Xmoo, who do a great deal for this community, but still cannot share everything as they do have sources that could be jepordised by releasing things.
But I do agree that ROM Cookers are getting pissy and perhaps lazy or bored with the community and are now doing it for that "Donate" purpose.
Also, whats doing my head in, and what you may not have seen or agree with but people putting "Use Search" in EVERY THREAD that is being made is really doing my head in. If they keep doing that, when people do search they will only find threads with answers saying "Use the Search"
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The selfishness is coming because of fame purposes which names I don't want to mention. But honestly they are annoying, and before I flash certain dev's ROMs even if I get certain leaks I rather live without the leaks and have no source of information instead off all this silly *****ing between two high school girls.
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bippolinno said:
when the rule on XDA is:
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, and HTC is no member, why to hold for only one member the right to post ROM's based on HTC work (RUU, OTA, etc)???
And, when a new RUU of OTA is used for developing a ROM, why have the right to don't share with other developers the source and keep only for himself whatever his name is???
Acceptance of such policy will not help HTC community at all, as already proven and give mods just headache.:crying:
P.S. This question is also for mods, the simply answer is to ...don't answer of close thread of delete it but there are coming many annoying new conflicting rules witch make XDA a private club in stead of Share and Care community!
Thanks Laurentius26, I have change the title of this thread.
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The issue here is the latest JB Sense OTA. This was meant for internal testing purposes for HTC Elevate members and we all signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement before we were accepted onto the programme. Now, someone (and I don't know who) still felt the need to leak this file, even after signing a LEGAL DOCUMENT stating they wouldn't so you can ***** all you want but, to be honest, the RUUs shouldn't be leaking if they've come from a confidential source...
EddyOS said:
The issue here is the latest JB Sense OTA. This was meant for internal testing purposes for HTC Elevate members and we all signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement before we were accepted onto the programme. Now, someone (and I don't know who) still felt the need to leak this file, even after signing a LEGAL DOCUMENT stating they wouldn't so you can ***** all you want but, to be honest, the RUUs shouldn't be leaking if they've come from a confidential source...
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Eddy your comment doesn't bring anything to the issue at hand. Please read it again. I wouldn't say he is *****ing.
That it shouldn't leak in the first place is not the issue this is about.
Even with what you say it still means, someone took someone else work and is currently "enriching" himself. Breaking laws in process is just an added bonus. And I guess in this case the mods should close those threads with the leaks. Shouldn't they?
Its about, I will share it, but first download "my" work in 2 days you can play with it too.
So there is no such thing as "BUT" or exceptions. No 2 days of not sharing source if you put a rom out based on. In which case these threads have to be stopped immediately after someone refuses to share it. Or heck even before if it breaks some legal documents.
How come you aren't pursuing this with mods to close those threads down?
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EddyOS said:
The issue here is the latest JB Sense OTA. This was meant for internal testing purposes for HTC Elevate members and we all signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement before we were accepted onto the programme. Now, someone (and I don't know who) still felt the need to leak this file, even after signing a LEGAL DOCUMENT stating they wouldn't so you can ***** all you want but, to be honest, the RUUs shouldn't be leaking if they've come from a confidential source...
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OK that I understand but when using the source for your own ROM only, means no leak from confidential source???
And as I said why source for kernels and not for ROM's???
The current issue is not related to the Elevate leak.
bippolinno said:
when the rule on XDA is:
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, and HTC is no member, why to hold for only one member the right to post ROM's based on HTC work (RUU, OTA, etc)???
And, when a new RUU of OTA is used for developing a ROM, why have the right to don't share with other developers the source and keep only for himself whatever his name is???
Acceptance of such policy will not help HTC community at all, as already proven and give mods just headache.:crying:
P.S. This question is also for mods, the simply answer is to ...don't answer of close thread of delete it but there are coming many annoying new conflicting rules witch make XDA a private club in stead of Share and Care community!
Thanks Laurentius26, I have change the title of this thread.
P.P.S. Rule : Sources need to be posted for all kernels!!! but why not for ROM's also???
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If you don't like how things are being handled you can always look on your own for sources and share them as you please (or as you can). Or maybe ask HTC for it.
The cook got hold something, let him use it as he pleases. He should have to do anything just because somebody else is *****ing about it.
If the way he handle things is not good enough for you, just ignore him.
Also, android's kernels are linux's so they have to be open source
Not the same with roms, since htc got closed source stuff inside
fredfb said:
If you don't like how things are being handled you can always look on your own for sources and share them as you please (or as you can). Or maybe ask HTC for it.
The cook got hold something, let him use it as he pleases. He should have to do anything just because somebody else is *****ing about it.
If the way he handle things is not good enough for you, just ignore him.
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A little off topic but I want to mention this one here, cooker/ROM creator baadnews, he was blaming HTC for slow updates a few weeks ago, he was telling why he is going to get s3.. its such a shame that people do not respect the work HTC puts behind sense interface. People like baadnews modify a few things, get reputation on XDA, get some donations and then start blaming htc? The company because of whom you are recognised as a developer in this forum? This is very very unfortunate... at least not expected from a developer like him... anyways...
Sent from my HTC One X
kryptoner said:
A little off topic but I want to mention this one here, cooker/ROM creator baadnews, he was blaming HTC for slow updates a few weeks ago, he was telling why he is going to get s3.. its such a shame that people do not respect the work HTC puts behind sense interface. People like baadnews modify a few things, get reputation on XDA, get some donations and then start blaming htc? The company because of whom you are recognised as a developer in this forum? This is very very unfortunate... at least not expected from a developer like him... anyways...
Sent from my HTC One X
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yea i agree with you, people should be complaining less =P
uqadwe said:
The current issue is not related to the Elevate leak.
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It might not be, I was just using it as an example
fredfb said:
If you don't like how things are being handled you can always look on your own for sources and share them as you please (or as you can). Or maybe ask HTC for it.
The cook got hold something, let him use it as he pleases. He should have to do anything just because somebody else is *****ing about it.
If the way he handle things is not good enough for you, just ignore him.
Also, android's kernels are linux's so they have to be open source
Not the same with roms, since htc got closed source stuff inside
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U could be right when not on XDA forums but here happens to be a place to share and care an not for private ROM's.
And FYI I have always supported developers cooking ROM's from scratch with respect for other developers work, I am totally against kang-ers, but this thread is for giving all developers same chance and to make XDA community better!
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A little off topic but I want to mention this one here, cooker/ROM creator baadnews, he was blaming HTC for slow updates a few weeks ago, he was telling why he is going to get s3.. its such a shame that people do not respect the work HTC puts behind sense interface. People like baadnews modify a few things, get reputation on XDA, get some donations and then start blaming htc? The company because of whom you are recognised as a developer in this forum? This is very very unfortunate... at least not expected from a developer like him... anyways...
Sent from my HTC One X
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It's rude to just single out certain people, baad has provided us with lots of good things so don't go have a go at him. If I'm thinking correctly he brought us the first jb sense rom and guide how to flash it.
My personal views is that everyone should share whatever they have/create.
This way people can see how and what is done. The only reason I see for some users not sharing, is like the other user posted, they don't want something they "created" in another ROM as they want all the "attention" to themselves, or they are scared that their ROM will become less popular, which I don't see as a problem, if someone prefers another ROM fine, let them use it.
If everybody was open about everything and shared, the rom/kernel development would be of twice the level it is at currently, it would benefit everyone, roms/kernels would have twice the amount of features.
But we still have those individuals who want to be ahead of everyone else and look "the best".
Just my two cents.
I really think this thread should be closed and deleted. It's only full of rant.
And it looks like we aren't even sticking to the subject and we are discussing other situations/developers.
Nevertheless, we are all very ungratefull people. I am really looking forword to see your work, RUU's, leak's etc.
mwilky said:
It's rude to just single out certain people, baad has provided us with lots of good things so don't go have a go at him. If I'm thinking correctly he brought us the first jb sense rom and guide how to flash it.
My personal views is that everyone should share whatever they have/create.
This way people can see how and what is done. The only reason I see for some users not sharing, is like the other user posted, they don't want something they "created" in another ROM as they want all the "attention" to themselves, or they are scared that their ROM will become less popular, which I don't see as a problem, if someone prefers another ROM fine, let them use it.
If everybody was open about everything and shared, the rom/kernel development would be of twice the level it is at currently, it would benefit everyone, roms/kernels would have twice the amount of features.
But we still have those individuals who want to be ahead of everyone else and look "the best".
Just my two cents.
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Its not rude, its a fact. I told what he did, there may be others like him too... I saw him, I pointed out the mistake, nothing against him... main point was to tell people to stop complaining, respect what HTC have given us, one x is a masterpiece
Sent from my HTC One X
PAGOT said:
Eddy your comment doesn't bring anything to the issue at hand. Please read it again. I wouldn't say he is *****ing.
That it shouldn't leak in the first place is not the issue this is about.
Even with what you say it still means, someone took someone else work and is currently "enriching" himself. Breaking laws in process is just an added bonus. And I guess in this case the mods should close those threads with the leaks. Shouldn't they?
Its about, I will share it, but first download "my" work in 2 days you can play with it too.
So there is no such thing as "BUT" or exceptions. No 2 days of not sharing source if you put a rom out based on. In which case these threads have to be stopped immediately after someone refuses to share it. Or heck even before if it breaks some legal documents.
How come you aren't pursuing this with mods to close those threads down?
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1. It's not up to me to get threads closed, I was just stating that that specific OTA should never have seen the light of day
2. The OP isn't exactly clear
If you're on about people holding files until they have their ROM out first then I agree that it's a bit wrong but, at the end of the day, it's there choice
(Sorry if this is on the worng section, feel free to move it if so.)
So, I wanted to post this when I had 1000 posts, but I acindetally let the post pass :/
Anyways, I will describe my good trip on XDA here.
First, I bought an HTC Touch HD (Windows Mobile 6.1) in 2011, which is the most stupid decision I could do but it was cheap, so... Anyways I was happy with WinMo for like a month, 'till I wanted something new, something different, so I wanted Android. I didn't know if this was possible, so I searched in YouTube for something like that (I usually search for these things on YouTube so I can see the comments and if everything is safe) and I found a build of Android Gingerbread that ran on the SD ( I actually only figured that out when I rebooted my device ), so I went and installed it. Everything went fine, but I had some questions. This is where I found XDA and asked my questions on the forum. Stilll, this build was too slow, so I wanted to fully replace WinMo, which was when I found tiad8 . com. This guy (tiad8) kanged a lot from the XDANDROID (original Android-on-HTC devs) kernel sources but he actually made a functional ROM for this phone. He was very insulted by the original devs and I don't have an opinion on that matter, since I used both of their works. Anyways, later fagyi (another dev) took care of the ROM for the HD and I actually made kernel progress and a lot of things for it to be a fast ROM, so I ended up using his ROM and doing a post of it here on XDA. The first post was blocked by the XDA mods crying but then fagyi posted the ROM itself and people still go there. After this ROM came out, I realized I couldn't use it since my phone got very hot (not on the ROM, actual motherboard problem) and battery was spent in like 2 hours. I had to buy a new phone, and I waited like 3 months to this, but on the last Christmas I finally got a Galaxy Nexus! When I got it I already understood a lot about Android development. Flashing ROMs was easy as pie (obvious, it's a Nexus ) and this is what I use now. I want to thank everyone on XDA that made it possible for my phones to be better and better by using their spare time to do this! Here are some names (not by any order) :
- fagyi;
- tiad8;
- ACL;
- arrrghhh;
- stinebd;
- HerrickWong.
Sorry if I forgot anyone.
Thank you XDA for these wonderful 2 years!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132968
Here's a good thread to tell your story in my friend :good:
This thread has great words,realky tough to read ...
sanjaykumar.sanjay69 said:
This thread has great words,realky tough to read ...
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Then take a look at link of above post of yours. You will find much more of it.
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“If you wait to do everything until you’re sure it’s right, you’ll probably never do much of anything.” –Win Borden
Thanks everybody
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Thanks everybody
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As mentioned, there is already a thread for sharing your XDA journey. Feel free to post your story in there as I'll need to close this one.
Off Topic - I knew I recognised your username from somewhere. Keep an eye on the portal over the next couple of days.