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any simlock on htc tp2 from uk vodafone?

just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!

There is a thread somewhere, might be on Voda eForum.
Device is unlocked, apparently Voda never lock their handsets.

Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.

svyatko said:
Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.
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thats what im doing at the moment - only thing no web or email at the mo as the phone has the vodaphone internet settings on it

hi there I got mine from mobiles direct on a vodafone and is has no branding on it not even sim lock but I dont know about vodafone themselfs though. sorry

stevencage7 said:
just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!
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voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!

shingers5 said:
voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!
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I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code

Philio25 said:
I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code
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mate ring them again............NUC(network unlock codes) cost £20 so you get what you paid for! not all voda phones come unlocked as i am sure they will confirm. i have had many many phones from voda and all locked...........n95 8gig being a popular one, f490, s700 to name a few! i know what i am talking about mate as i own a phone shop!
why do you think mobile shops make so much money from unlocking................... some handsets do come unlocked but only a few and will defo be on contract and not pay and go!

I've never asked them, just read the info from their forum
I like the fact they 'accidental' left out the part about it costing £20 though!

Locked to 3... will rooting/rom free me?

Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?

eesmm said:
Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?
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No. You need a SIM code. Depending on laws in your country, you might get one free from that cell provider it's locked to. If not, they're always available for sale online, about $25 USD or so.

My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.

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My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.
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That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)

My Desire from the merry Hill 3 store was also unlocked.
I went into Solihull originally and they told me that it might be locked or it might not be locked :S and there is no returns on the phone.
After phoning Merry Hill, where they had me an unlocked one reserved, I was told that they received a batch of unlocked ones and aren't sure if the next batch would be unlocked.
Not sure how much of that is true, but that's what I was told by the 3 staff. Mine works fine though , £350 too, great price.

can also confirm my desire from 3uk is unlocked

3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.

WillyVWade said:
3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.
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So I'm going to call the 3 shop ahead to make sure.
Is there a way for them to know the locked/unlocked status of a device without powering up (something on the packaging)? I can only assume the staff will be a bit clueless when i ask...
(Big thankyou to all who replied, btw)

Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.

WillyVWade said:
Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.
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They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.

Psy-Blade said:
They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.
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I went in to my local 3 store and asked if I could use one, they told me they wouldn't have any generic stock or display models.

eesmm said:
That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)
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They handed me a HTC Desire in a HTC Desire box, no 3 branding of any kind, then they handed me a PAYG sim card pack. I'm actually using my 3 contract sim in the phone, but just to check I popped in my brothers o2 Sim and it turned on and displayed the o2 carrier logo. Do not let them know you are not planning to use it on their network or they will refuse to sell it on PAYG. Another thing, they also made me buy a £10 top-voucher, which I was able to sell to a 3 PAYG user.

That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked
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Definately not locked as brought one on Friday on payg on 3, no branding at all and works on o2 (which is what I wanted it for).

I can confirm that as well, Got mine in leeds although with a contract, but popped my t-mob PAYG in and it worked fine

Mine was unlocked aswell, got it from the retention team, box had 3 sticker but phone had none. Tested with other sim and worked fine. This all might change when they get more out, and have time to brand it. Usually they would have the 3 on the phone. good luck

A technical question about branded phones

I have a question for all you technical types out there. I have to admit that my knowledge about these things is pretty limited.
I tried to order a HTC Desire as part of a contract upgrade and it seems that I have hit a road block when it comes to getting a unbranded phone. I can get one relatively quick and easy if it is branded (i.e. T-Mobile or Vodafone) and my netprovider is neither.
My question is: does it make a difference (branded or un-branded)? Or using a branded phone with a different Sim card?
Orr is it possible or necessary to change the Rom to unbranded?
I would really appreciate whatever advice I could get.
Thanks.

Shouldn't make a difference. Either way you can simply flash the unbranded Rom using a goldcard.
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Hi Cedeel, what is a Goldcard???? Like I said, I know almost nothing about these things.
Thanks for having patience with me.

You could do a simple search. Basically, it will allow you to flash any signed Rom for your device.
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Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.

GrenW said:
Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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vodafone UK no longer SIM lock their phones. This has been the case for the last year or 2.

GrenW said:
Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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They do, however, have a different vendor ID than the generic WWE ROM so you have to wait for VF to approve it

My first post, but I've been lurking for a while. After some quick advice if possible, can anybody confirm if my Desire is unbranded or not. Got it from Vodafone but put my mate's SIM (O2) in it the other day and it worked fine, so thought it was unbranded. Finally decided to go down the Custom ROM route, so thought I'd just double check, stumbled across this
"Go to Settings>About Phone>Software version and see what the FW version is - branded is x.xx.161.x, unbranded is x.xx.405.x"
whilst searching, so had a quick check of firmware version and it is 1.19.161.5, so seems to be a branded phone. Is this correct? If it is, then I'll just create a goldcard. Any advice would be much appreciated.

GrenW said:
Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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In NL T-Mobile doesn't sell branded Desires. I'm not sure about Germany too.
However, I do know that some phones with another provider get their software updates much later.

I also wonder if you have a Carphone Warehouse or Phone House near you. I know they exist in Germany and if it's like the UK stores they sell all their phones unlocked on or off contract and you get similar if not better deals to the networks.

Operator Desire VS proper SIM free Desire

Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?

The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
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YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!

£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.

I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.

me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?

cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can

me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.

cirian75 said:
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!

EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.

cirian75 said:
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S

mancuk29 said:
!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360

steveapp said:
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset

just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version

£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+

Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil

I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.

EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.

Are DVPs branded or not?

Well, by all appearances I don't think so considering there's no T-mobile splash or T-mobile brand on the chassis but it does come with T-mobile apps pre-installed. Is this device branded or not?

It is not branded, but it is locked to a carrier or network...as in Sim locked...

kapanak said:
It is not branded, but it is locked to a carrier or network...as in Sim locked...
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Exactly how I took it, however the features of unbranded devices dont seem to come through for me. Any sort of update benefit we get is null and void for me.

ubranded but the dvp is quite strange without registry access to anything. I really need to touch base with chris and some other users regarding unlocking this bad boy