As we all know quadrant is no reliable measure for speed. At least I knew this for a while now and it was repeated and quoted many times.
This article tells anybody with a functioning brain (that is used of course) that quadrant means pretty much nothing.
I can't help to run it from time to time anyway
So I sat on the to... in my room in front of my computer with my phone. I9000 with supersonic ROM and the remount script from adrenaline shot 7. I sat there and said to myself "how hight can you score in quadrant LOL"
I started quadrant up and ran the benchmark: 2309
Then I opened the task manager-> Exit all & Clear memory
Then via long press homebutton back to quadrant to run the benchmark again score: 2453
But since I am a programmer and can imagine all kinds of optimizations and caching I pressed the back button and just ran it again just after it finished
Score: 2675
How the hell could anyone call that a benchmark?^^
just to be sure could anyone confirm that behavior? And does anyone know of a mor reliable alternative? I'd like to collect that knowledge in this thread.
TL;DR: quadrant sucks, you know anything better or want to flame away: do it here
Those are not the actual numbers from my first experiment, I repeated the scenario just now and took the numbers from those runs.
Additional runs scored 2775, 2907 and 2820, that's just silly
I think this behaviour is well known and has to do with JIT optimizations or something like that
allotrios said:
I think this behaviour is well known and has to do with JIT optimizations or something like that
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The reason is irrelevant. The fact it doesn't provide a reliable benchmark is.
no benchmark is precise if you don't use it as intended. Quadrant produces a reliable comparative benchmark when used as designed: run it five times, remove the lowest and highest scores and average the remaining 3 -- that is your benchmark. You may not like it, but that is how it is designed to be used.
Now if you want to be pedantic, you could reasonably test again, by running quadrant 5 times, removing the outliers and average your 3 remaining scores. Repeat 10 times and then tell me how your average scores do or do not vary: they will in fact be within a narrow range, your actual benchmark.
Alternatively, tell us which benchmark produces the same score each run, as that appears to be the sum total of your objection to quadrant.
There are other benchmarks, such as Caffiene Mark, AnTuTu and NenaMark, but they are all apps just as Quadrant is and all require several runs and averaging to produce a comparable benchmark.
Moreover, the primary use of any benchmark is to compare firmware (kernel and rom) builds on the same phone to see relative performance gain and drop.
A benchmark is supposed to give way of comparing the capabilities of a given device. This means that a device with a high average score implies a better device than a lower score.
But the Quadrant score does nothing of this sort! In a competition with a friend I achieved an average Quadrant score of about 4300, with a peak of 4462. According to Quadrant my device is a lot better than the OP! Which is just not true.
Quadrant is unreliable as a benchmark, no matter how it is "designed to be used".
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whaave said:
But the Quadrant score does nothing of this sort! In a competition with a friend I achieved an average Quadrant score of about 4300, with a peak of 4462. According to Quadrant my device is a lot better than the OP! Which is just not true.
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You're doing it wrong.
lgsshedden said:
Moreover, the primary use of any benchmark is to compare firmware (kernel and rom) builds on the same phone to see relative performance gain and drop.
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Quadrant scores are useless. I've used custom roms with scores of 2500+ but they aren't as smooth as stock roms, which only have scores of 1600-1800.
Antutu is indeed quite reliable imho. My results never fluctuate more than +-5% on the same config. That's an acceptable range, considering I don't set cpu governor to performance before running my tests.
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upichie said:
You're doing it wrong.
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w00t?
Quadrant does not reflect performance, and therefore can not be used as a comparison parameter.
It can't be much worse than I thought.
My phone with 2.1 and 'lag fix' scored 2200 and lagged so bad I wanted to throw it against a wall multiple times a day.
With stock 2.3 quadrant can be ~1000 but the phone runs much smoother.
Other than the obvious file systems I/O 'cheats' that resulted in the above, there is also the frame rate cap that makes the GPU tests useless as well.
if your trying to measure height with a scale , u wont get your answer .
The only benchmark tool that ever reflected how the phone felt in my hands , in real life usage is linpack .
changing OC / kernel is mainly the only thing that will affect linpack if your trying to use it to compare roms ill efer you to my first statement .
In order to have a good feel of a rom / set up on the phone , use some apps that will use lots of ressources , for example TW4 launcher , go in there scroll a lot open gallery (if you have many pics) scroll thru them and repeat ... Any benchmark tools will basically tell you the 'ability of your device ' ( comparing 2 different models like an inspire and an sgs2 for example will be accurate )
ZioGTS said:
Antutu is indeed quite reliable imho. My results never fluctuate more than +-5% on the same config. That's an acceptable range, considering I don't set cpu governor to performance before running my tests.
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I recently tried Passmark Mobile. Still a beta version, but I like it. Test results reflect real performance improvement and degradation pretty closely, particularly for what concerns I/O and memory speed.
I am running Antutu benchmark and cant get above 43## in the scores. I see people getting up to 7000 though. Is there something i am missing?
alzorak said:
I am running Antutu benchmark and cant get above 43## in the scores. I see people getting up to 7000 though. Is there something i am missing?
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Some people root and flash a custom ROM,tweak,overclock to get those scores usually my stock device is close to the Original GSII just off by 200 points running antutu running quadrant standard it lower If I was you I wouldn't worry about this numbers.
Is this a normal antutu score for a 32/3 GB mi max?!!!
Edit: done a second attempt with 62k score and a final third attempt with a 79k score with an average free ram of 1.8 GB in all 3 attempts!!
Did you restart the phone before you ran the test? Kill all background apps? Do you run a custom kernel? Is it underclocked? Did you have wifi on searching for networks?
Antutu scores are faily insoconsistent but I would agree that your score is a bit low
It has to be a mistake, but Antutu shows an impressive score of 20.691 points, similar to newer platforms equiped with 4 cores CPUs and 2Gb of fast memory.
The actual configuration that gets this score is:
[ROM][AOSP][Unified] Unlegacy-Android MarshMallow build ua_tuna-ota-20170116.zip
F2FS Data partition. ext4 in System/Cache
Greenify properly configured to hibernate not used background apps.
The normal app load used in the terminal
As seen in the attached screenshot, 3D sucks with a score of 226 points (absolutelly normal), but the rest os the scores are amazing. Well, in fact, in my opinion the system is very smooth and apps runs quite well, but I think no in the way they should with a terminal in this real score in multitasking and memory performance. Is because of this I think this score is really artificially increased, or perhaps the potencial performance is degraded due the scarce 1 GB of RAM, in daily use.
I know that Antutu is not a real performance index but its relative scores places every device in an almost correct place of real performance.
What do you think?
Hi, why my mate 20 6gb of ram is showing 270k score antutu whereas all the youtube benchmarks are reaching 300k on antutu is a little strange
Turn on performance mode on battery settings to get 300+ score
saw man said:
Turn on performance mode on battery settings to get 300+ score
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Right, now it reached 310 k antutu score i'm satisfied lool