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How to get Skype working for the TP2

The reason for this thread is to help people get Skype working to its fullest extent and resolve some of the issues. The ultimate objective is to allow those with Skype subscriptions to get unlimited anytime calling across North America if they pay the $2.95 / month for the Skype plan and have unlimited data...
Download Skype 3.0 for Windows Phones here:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
It installs fine and theoretically works great, however, there are a number of issues:
1. Skype automatically routes all audio to the speakerphone.
To route the audio to the earpieces, install audioRoute from Teksoft:
http://teksoftco.com/storage/download.php?product=audioroute_ppc
This product is discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495166
It essentially installs an icon in your taskbar that loads when the phone starts up. Once you open Skype, you click the icon, select the first icon, which is the earpiece, and then all audio will get routed to the earpiece when using Skype.
To route the audio to a Bluetooth headset, then install A2DP toggle from Teksoft:
http://teksoftco.com/storage/download.php?product=a2dptoggle
This program should theoretically allow you to select the Bluetooth headset when Skype is loaded. It should theoretically be able to be loaded concurrently with audioRoute. I have not tested it fully.
2. Skype will not work unless connected to a wifi connection
I had tested Skype and thought it worked flawlessly until someone with an iPhone mentioned that he had to install some sort of program to "trick" Skype into thinking it was connected to a Wifi. I believe that this is an issue with the way Microsoft has designed Windows Mobile, but is probably intential to prevent competition for telecommunication company voice packages. This issue supposedly does not exist with Windows Mobile clients.
Just ensure that ActivSync/Wifi/Mobile is enabled under the Connection settings.
3. Skype Mobile does not support video calling
I'm not sure if this is a software issue or just something that can be hacked. I see no reason why this functionality would be disabled in the Mobile version of Skype... any insight would be appreciated.

Would love it if anyone else is experiencing problem 2 as well... I want to find out if it's isolated to my handset... or even to just my carrier.

slaman said:
Would love it if anyone else is experiencing problem 2 as well... I want to find out if it's isolated to my handset... or even to just my carrier.
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No problem here on a Vodafone TP2. Skype uses the 3G connection fine.
You know that htere's a setting that tells Skype what connection(s) to use? It defaults to "Use ActiveSync/Wifi" but can be changed to "Use ActiveSync/Wifi/Mobile"

It was working for me I think
see the message below

It was working for me I think
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but I have made calls through Skype on my TyTN II using the Australian Three 3G network. Called my wife on her mobile in Shanghai with no problems. Well, the connection was pretty horrible (I think it's a bit hard work for both the phone and the network) but it connected fine for as long as I wanted.
As tjobbins said, in the Connection Method settings, I can "Use ActiveSync/WiFi" or "Use ActiveSync/WiFi/Mobile"... so if I'm overseas, I leave it on the first one; in Australia on the second one.

skippinshanghai said:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but I have made calls through Skype on my TyTN II using the Australian Three 3G network. Called my wife on her mobile in Shanghai with no problems. Well, the connection was pretty horrible (I think it's a bit hard work for both the phone and the network) but it connected fine for as long as I wanted.
As tjobbins said, in the Connection Method settings, I can "Use ActiveSync/WiFi" or "Use ActiveSync/WiFi/Mobile"... so if I'm overseas, I leave it on the first one; in Australia on the second one.
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Interesting... I think my settings might have changed because I tested it again just now and it worked!
Thanks all!

I'm interested in how this works. I own the Titan at the moment and Skype only works over Wifi. Do you know if Skype plans on fixing the problem with calls only being heard from speaker phone? Any update on video calling?
off-topic question here, does anyone know if the titan operates on 3G? (i have sprint)

jtadeo said:
I'm interested in how this works. I own the Titan at the moment and Skype only works over Wifi. Do you know if Skype plans on fixing the problem with calls only being heard from speaker phone? Any update on video calling?
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We can only hope. Skype have their forums and I saw a number of posts complaining about those missing features. I guess we should add our voices, though I would expect it will take a while for it to be fixed; the current version for Windows Mobile, Skype 3, was released fairly recently.
One alternative to look at is Fring. It supports better audio routing, i.e. calls are not only on speakerphone - they can come through the normal phone earpiece, or a bluetooth headset. Don't think it does video. As well as Skype, it also supports MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM and others, so it's a good all-in-one client.
However on the TP2 Fring does currently have one quite annoying issue - it doesn't seem to work on Wifi. It's fine on mobile/3G connections, but on Wifi it won't list access points or connect. This is reported on their forums but no sign of a fix yet. Actually I did once get it connect to WiFi, but I don't really know how and haven't been able to repeat it.

Oh I just remembered the other huge problem with Skype for Windows Mobile - it doesn't list your phone contacts!
Bloody useless when you want to make a Skype Out call, and you end up having to go into the contact record, copy their number, and then paste it into Skype. Really daft.
Fring does list your contacts, and you can use it for Skype Out as well as Fring's own paid-for outbound dialling system.

I have another problem: NO notifications! So i don't know if someone chats or phone me! It's useless in that way!

tjobbins said:
Oh I just remembered the other huge problem with Skype for Windows Mobile - it doesn't list your phone contacts!
Bloody useless when you want to make a Skype Out call, and you end up having to go into the contact record, copy their number, and then paste it into Skype. Really daft.
Fring does list your contacts, and you can use it for Skype Out as well as Fring's own paid-for outbound dialling system.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I want to make sure that I'm using only data-only when making calls, since I have unlimited data... and limited daytime voice minutes.
I installed fring, and it doesn't show the TP2 as a supported device. When I launched it, it kept asking me to find a WLAN... except nothing shows up on the list! Wifi is enabled AND data is enabled, and it keeps showing Not Available...
Has it worked on your TP2?

slaman said:
I installed fring, and it doesn't show the TP2 as a supported device. When I launched it, it kept asking me to find a WLAN... except nothing shows up on the list! Wifi is enabled AND data is enabled, and it keeps showing Not Available...
Has it worked on your TP2?
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Nope. See my post before the one you quoted! It doesn't work on WiFi on the TP2 at the moment - and also on some other WM devices I think.
Works great on 3G and ActiveSync, just doesn't work on WiFi.
Except.. once for me it did. It suddenly connected and I don't know how or why. Haven't managed to repeat it yet though. But maybe there's a workaround lying in there waiting to be (re) discovered

tjobbins said:
Nope. See my post before the one you quoted! It doesn't work on WiFi on the TP2 at the moment - and also on some other WM devices I think.
Works great on 3G and ActiveSync, just doesn't work on WiFi.
Except.. once for me it did. It suddenly connected and I don't know how or why. Haven't managed to repeat it yet though. But maybe there's a workaround lying in there waiting to be (re) discovered
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No no - I had wifi disabled and just tried to use regular data connection... but it couldn't find the connection for some reason.

Hate to bump an old thread... but I finally got Fring working on my TP2 (latest version), but SkypeOut calls don't actually direct to the Earpiece... I don't hear anything. Loudspeaker works fine.

WM 6.5 SIP Client w/ Dialpad and Mute Function

Hi Guys,
I currently use free SIP service and google voice together with onedialer to make phone calls through Data. I currently use FRING as the SIP client, though it works good, but it doesn't have dialpad...so i can't enter tone responses (the windows dialer's dialpad tone sounds for some reason also doesn't work during SIP call) and neither does it have mute functionality during SIP call.
Is there any SIP client with these feature...i know WM has inbuilt SIP client...does it have these 2 features...its lot of work to enable it in..so just want to make sure beforehand
Regards,

ok pardon my noobiness above...so I configured the built in sip client and found it work just like regular call...and also it sucks compared to fring...there is more lag, sound breaking compared to fring(on phone data plan and even on wi-fi) and it misses incoming SIP calls too some times...
So is there any other solution?

You can try this one ..I've had good results with it.
Agreet agephone
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm

TechnoHippie said:
You can try this one ..I've had good results with it.
Agreet agephone
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
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Thanks for the suggestion...for now I've installed PortSIP and its working pretty good...I'll give that one a try also and compare..

Mafioso said:
Thanks for the suggestion...for now I've installed PortSIP and its working pretty good...I'll give that one a try also and compare..
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Well I've tried both PortSIP and Agephone....both are good clients but none of them are able are as successful on T-mobile Edge network as Fring...it somehow manages to get adequate audio quality to get talks done...maybe it uses low bandwidth or something...The others have choppy/muffled voices in between
Is there any other client as successful as this? i've tried Nimbuzz, but it has the same problem as others..

Is VoIP a problem with the G2 unless you use T-Mob's app?

I have a US T-Mob G2 and sipdroid installed on it. Using VoIPfone which is in the UK. I have a speedtest app installed which shows 5 mbps download speed 3 mbps upload. I posted this message to another forum where it was moved involuntarily to the Android Q&A but I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem. I am using 2.3.4 which is auto-updated by T-Mobile. I have been CID&SIM unlocking and flashing Wizards, Hermeses, Blue Angels, Wings for over five years but never thought to do anything to this phone and wonder if that may be the problem now, as T-Mobile has their own VoIP service to prevent you from sidestepping their plan-minutes. Curiously there have been 142 views of my question with no suggestions whatsoever. Again, I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem.
People report that they can hear me clear as a bell on Sipdroid but I can hear almost nothing. I hear a half second of incoming sound followed by a second or two of silence, then another half second of sound, repeating about 10 times till all incoming sound stops completely.
VoIP provider (Voipfone) says yes, some other users OF THEIRS have reported this problem and this is an inherent problem with Android and Android users cant use VoIP. They allude to some mysterious latency problem (which is identifiable on line, - except that users say it affects OUTGOING sound, not incoming so): I say baloney: There is something wrong with their server. Or can T-Mob recognise that I am trying to use VoIP and I suppose there is a remote chance they are blocking something to prevent me using any VoIP service other than their own (which uses their minutes!!). Cant imagine what they could do to stop me but i can sure imagine why they would want to try! The symptoms do look suspiciously like blocking?
Has anyone else noticed this problem with Sipdroid or any other VoIP app on a G2 or (as I have to think more likely) with Voipfone? Voipfone have been quite negative about trying Acrobits etc.

After tons and tons of problems using sip viop. I ended up using gvoice plus groove ip. Works perfect and in latest versions they have tons of fixes for no voice and such. Dosent use minutes and can be used over 3g and 4g. Hope this helps.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

weird results when phone connected to computer
Since i posted, I discovered that Sipdroid works perfectly when connected to a computer with a hard wire! When unplugged, it continues to work fine. You can even walk around the flat and the connection continues to work fine! As soon as I try to MAKE a call, the problems re-emerge.
I posted these results on the Sipdroid forum and the moderators dont seem to have let this problem be public (yet?)
(Dont now think it is the phone or the carrier)

I agree with you. It is not a problem of Android. I would suggest you to go for a trial service with another VOIP service provider and see the difference. I am sure you will not face this issue. I am using VOIP service on my Android from the The Real PBX. And actually it is working fine with me. It may be the issue of the SIP client they are providing with their service as well.

VIOP problems
I have always used voip in conjunction with a home asterisk server, PBXes, Sipgate and Google Voice over wifi. I have not used T-mobile's service, so I can offer little help, there, regarding circumventing any of their blocks.
The problems you're describing, one way audio, could be related to STUN, NAT or the use of an incompatible codec. Usually, codec. I do not use STUN. The most compatible codec would be ulaw, or alaw in Europe. Sipdroid is not the friendliest client, I rather use Android's (gingerbread or better) built-in or CSipSimple. CSipSimple is the best out there for easy setup. I has numerous host profiles built right in the setup wizard.

Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!

I have been using this provider successfully for five years
wodurrah said:
Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!
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Thanks guys the problem must be with Sipdroid: I see their forum is replete with questions and NO answers for months on end. I will try to see whether the other apps integrate different codecs or different ways of using STUN?
The curious thing is that the provider semi-officially recognises Sipdroid on their site which makes it a bit surprising that they cant isolate the problem in my case.

[Q] How to connect the GN via VPN to a AVM Fritzbox?

Hi there,
I really like the Galaxy Nexus with ICS 4.0.2 (beside the low volume of the ringtones...) but I can't use Skype since german providers block skype-packets
in the network or atleast make them utterly slow. Now I want to use the
VPN-server of my (german) "AVM Fritzbox 7170" ADSL-router. There's a how-to for the iphone: http://translate.google.com/transla...rvice-Portal/VPN_Interoperabilitaet/16206.php
Unfortunately it doesn't work here, I only get a timeout.
Can somebody give me an advice with wich app I can find wich logfile on the phone to check for any errormessages? Kind regards!

I have used Skype in Germany without issues. What makes you think your carrier is blocking Skype packets? I believe Skype communicates on port 80 the same as web browsers..

elpmet27 said:
I have used Skype in Germany without issues. What makes you think your carrier is blocking Skype packets? I believe Skype communicates on port 80 the same as web browsers..
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I had the issue with different networks on different phones. Some operators also say so to slowdown Skype-packets, even if T-mobile isn't doing so.
If I start a voicecall I maybe hear the first 2 seconds of the voice (eg. the echo service) and then I just get weired chopped soundbits that sounds like a broken robot. And it's not the signalquality, using it with full HSDPA-signal...
Oh and not to speak about videocalls, impossible to connect at all.
Oh and as I said, I would like to use the VPN, too. Not just because of Skype.

So... no help here?

[Q] Where is the LTE version?

I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?

rampo said:
I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Probably because Google hasn't released it yet.
Come on, did you really need to ask that question? A simple search would have shown that it's not scheduled to be released for another few weeks, if not longer. The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.

phonic said:
The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.
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Sorry. This is the info I was searching.

rampo said:
I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Email to Larry Page

phuduong said:
Email to Larry Page
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Good Job Man :highfive:

Will I be able to use it as a phone?

IamPro said:
Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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No one knows. However, if it's like the N73G, the answer is no.

IamPro said:
Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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Out of the box? According to this link, no.
I use the original Nexus (wifi only) as a phone though with a verizon 4g hotspot. VOIP calling over mobile broadband (4g) is just as good if not better than calls over GSM. Really I'll be surprised if VOIP calls don't become more common than PSTN in 5 or 6 years. Especially since SIP to SIP calls are free (it's really not much different than emailing someone).
Search for tutorials by acegolfer in this forum if you're interested in how to set this up.

VOIP over LTE with, for example, Google Voice plus Groove IP is the way to go. I use that nearly 100% of the time on my phone even plus you have the benefits of switching numbers on the fly (work/personal) and the management features like blocking numbers, do not disturb, etc. are great.

Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.

phonic said:
Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.
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You don't have to flip out. They are just trying to be helpful and there are plenty of people who don't realize what they can and can't do. Also, for work, I would much rather use BBM voice over my cdma call.