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[Q] Android News Update for TP2 aka Tilt2 aka PimpTight2 aka Fortress

I went to Android with the sweetest phone on the market (Samsung Galaxy S) and never looked back. However I still have my Tilt and Tilt2 and I thought I might try and install Froyo or something tastly on my old phones...
THESE FORUMS ARE A MESS!
So here I am, and by the look of it there is nothing going on but people flooding the forum with cries for help and people waving the white flag. I assume the big boi dev's moved on to better devices as I did or they got tired of you clowns flooding this forum. ANYONE PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING GOING ON MAYBE WE SHOULD STICKY IT OR MOVE ALL THESE QUESTION THREADS, THIS ONE INCLUDED TO A SUBTHREAD.
If they have it working on my Tilt half way decent I cant belive the Tilt2 is getting ditched.

What are you talking about dude? There's a sticky thread already. There's just too many people who can't read FAQ's and are asking the same questions again and again. As this project gets more popularity, more people flood the forums.

how do you have almost as many posts as I, and not even know about the biggest project on rhodium?
do you even read anything in these forums?
and as far as i know, we have the best devs right here on site giving constant top tier advice, updates, software, hacks and mods.
what white flags do you see, besides "iphone" users who try their hand at a real device.
stick to ur samsung, this is HTC.

kroniced said:
I when to Android with sweetest phone on the market (Samsung Galaxy S) and never looked back. However I still have my Tilt and Tilt2 and I thought I might try and install Froyo or something tastly on my old phones...
So here I am, and by the look of it there is nothing going on but people flooding the forum with cries for help and people waving the white flag. I assume the big boi dev's moved on to better devices as I did or they got tired of you clowns flooding this forum. ANYONE PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING GOING ON MAYBE WE SHOULD STICKY IT OR MOVE ALL THESE QUESTION THREADS, THIS ONE INCLUDED TO A SUBTHREAD.
If they have it working on my Tilt half way decent I cant belive the Tilt2 is getting ditched.
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You're dumber than the noobs on here, at least they had the sense to check STICKY at the TOP of the page. And I'm gonna tell you what all the noobs get told...SEARCH!!!
TP2 (XDandroid) XDA App

So, you open a new thread to ask a question which was answered in the very first thread on the forum, that was also stickied. Then you begin to use vulgarities to debase other forum members? I'm glad you use another phone, and don't come to this forum anymore.

Not to pile on but that first stickied thread has over 9,000 posts and 1,000,000 views. Even a noob like me knew to go there first.
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Thread cleaned.
Please familiarise yourself with the forum rules regarding flaming, language and respect for other members.

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Thread cleaned.
Please familiarise yourself with the forum rules regarding flaming, language and respect for other members.
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Thanks Senior Mod.
Wondered whom the person was calling clowns. Unless we have an apology, the person should be suspended.

A Plead to the members of XDA..

As a member of XDA i am proud that there is a place where people, ideas and developers can come together to work out problems and create new, better, faster software.
I love the ideas and the creations here, but i am somewhat tired of the negativity and "flaming" going on in some of the forums. Specifically Samsung Galaxy forums, with each passing day/week there is an exponentially increasing amount of NEW THREADS, pretty much dedicated to venting anger at the phone's manufacturer. While some claims do have merit (crappy GPS), other complaints are ill-researched, (samsung to blame for not releasing froyo, how did rogers release it to me?).
There was even a "Supposed" samsung rep. SamsungJohn, who reached out to the captivate community on the behalf of Samsung. (once again supposedly) If he was in fact from samsung he received the WORST welcome from the community, he was badgered and hammered with anger before given a chance to explain what his goal/role here was. In a recent post it was referred to him "stepping on the XDA hornets nest". Honestly it looked more like a forum full of angry 10 year olds, although to be COMPLETELY FAIR, 99% of the members "flaming" (to SamsungJohn or in other posts) ARE NOT DEVELOPERS OR PROGRAMMERS just bored people that feel XDA is a good place to vent anger. IT IS NOT.
If you have actual hardware problems with your phone, flood the manufacturers forum NOT OURS! If they had as many complaint posts as we do on a public forum they wouldn't be able to deny any issues exist, you could link to them, they would be right there, ON THEIR SITE.
I love my phone, for any flaws it has, any other phone will have another, sometimes we can fix it here, sometimes we cant. It is understandable in this day and age that many times products are rushed out the door and moved on to the next. Its the world we live in today. Accept it or check out..
Please remember XDA is a place to come together for ideas and working out problems NOT NEEDLESSLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM!!!

Speak my man!Perhaps that is the most right opinion I've seen on the forums!
PS:Love your PC setup dude!If it had a 69xxHD ATi it would be my dream machine!

Peace, love, harmony. Everyone, repeat. Hehe.
There will always be flaming. We have pretty diligent moderators that find the offending members and take proper action. Everyone can help out here just by being nice to one another. This is a community. A community benefits when its citizens are helpful, friendly, and contributive.

Well said! The forum needs more people to be constructive in their postings rather than petulant and needy.

This OP should have his post stickied in all the galaxy S forums IMO.

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This OP should have his post stickied in all the galaxy S forums IMO.
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if i was a moderator or web dev of this site the message would pop up, and you would have to agree before veiwing the forums!

I know its been getting bad. But they have stepped up and got more moderators. So it will get better. Plus all the new devices that keep getting added. So much for everyone to keeo up with. Thats why as you know the report post is there. Helps alot.

@OP, I couldn't agree more with you, with the recent influx of new users into XDA via their new purchases and nearly everyone owning a smartphone we will have to adapt to them and their misconceptions of what XDA is. Although they may misunderstand what we are about we are always trying to show them what our roots were and still are today. We try to keep it under control to the best of out abilities, but with a ratio of moderators to members being 40:1,000,000 it can be an uphill battle at times. Thanks for sharing your opinion and we hope to improve down the road.

yes, i have been using the "REPORT" button, on an increasing basis.
is there by any chance at least a single moderator dedicated to each phone, with experience with that device to know what is un-related/ garbage information/threads.
also some threads deserve deletion rather than closing. just wasting space with usually no information what-soever

Trusselo said:
yes, i have been using the "REPORT" button, on an increasing basis.
is there by any chance at least a single moderator dedicated to each phone, with experience with that device to know what is un-related/ garbage information/threads.
also some threads deserve deletion rather than closing. just wasting space with usually no information what-soever
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yep, we have this in place. They are called Forum Specific Moderators, and have a title like
"HTC XYZ Forum Moderator"
They are responsible for a small number of forums, to try and spot this stuff

Im not sure if i have come across my "captivate" mod, is there any easy way to find the mod for your forum? could an easy way be added? link in each phone's forum? (for issues PM...)

Trusselo said:
Im not sure if i have come across my "captivate" mod, is there any easy way to find the mod for your forum? could an easy way be added? link in each phone's forum? (for issues PM...)
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Yep, though it seems the assigned mod for your forum was recently promoted, and therefore there is no "assigned" mod right now. When you get one, their name will appear at the lower right of any of the general/dev subforums.

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Yep, though it seems the assigned mod for your forum was recently promoted, and therefore there is no "assigned" mod right now. When you get one, their name will appear at the lower right of any of the general/dev subforums.
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well that explains a lot
Hopefully we get a new mod soon!
Herp Derp Captivate XDA

Even with the influx of immature morons, this place is still two thousand times more coherent and mature than any iPhone modification related forum.
I swear, all I see over on those boards are a bunch of people crying and cursing and yelling and making threats because jailbreaks and unlocks are slow to release.

I am loving your new member posts, very informative and a great way to get informed about this site!

Agreement
I completely agree with you man.
I think we need two things,
First of all, people who respect the earth and its benefits.
And secondly, some respectful people who watch and guide people who don't know the value of being beneficial and so respectful, one by one.
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I really consist with this oppinion that an improved society just can born and keep on by everyone's usefull endeavour. In the other word a wise intellectual man/woman cann't grow up and even say a little bit of his/her knowledge in a tidy palce.
So, be in the way and enjoy your home.
Hopping success and enhancement.

I could not agree with you more.
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This is the truest thing in the world. Been happening a lot on my devices forum, the flaming amongst members and devs.
It just shouldn't happen

I have noticed that in the Galaxy Tab Forum, It must the target demographic that the device attracts as owners. I Joke obviously, I don't want to attract any unwanted attention
I think XDA suffers a little bit from how big it is. It's probably before a lot of manufacturers sites on search result for what ever normal people type into Google and with 4.5 million members you're going to attract a wide cross section of humanity......There might even be some women on here Nah There's no women on the internet.
Speaking of XDA being a place of coming together and solving problems, let me throw a couple out there
Maybe there should stop new members creating threads on any forum.... drill it home to use the site properly. I think slatedroid or one of the forums focused towards the more "exotic" Android devices does that. Frustrating though that might be it will make people think is it really worth the effort, You could measure a members "dedication" by not only post but visit frequency and what types of posts they view, so even if they feel they cannot help with replies they still get to post eventually. Although that last sentence makes XDA sound like a bit of a cult.
That would probably have stop me from posting my first though (Ironically a Samsung Galaxy Tab external SDCard booting method) but you win some/you lose some
In Fact If you want to get a little more draconian. you could introduce perma-bans for all sorts of minor indiscretions such as anyone who post the words "vs" In a thread title as we don't really need another thread about who's dog barks the loudest, anyone complaining about lack of support from the manufacturer, there are more but they escape me now
So in summary. PermaBan The Lot Of Em'

trevd said:
I have noticed that in the Galaxy Tab Forum, It must the target demographic that the device attracts as owners. I Joke obviously, I don't want to attrach any unwanted attention
I think XDA suffers a little bit from how big it is. It's probably before a lot of manufacturers sites on search result for what ever normal people type into Google and with 4.5 million members you're going to attract a wide cross section of humanity......There might even be some women on here Nah There's no women on the internet.
Speaking of XDA being a place of coming together and solving problems, let me throw a couple out there
Maybe there should stop new members creating threads on any forum.... drill it home to use the site properly. I think slatedroid or one of the forums focused towards the more "exotic" Android devices does that. Frustrating though that might be it will make people think is it really worth the effort, You could measure a members "dedication" by not only post but visit frequency and what types of posts they view, so even if they feel they cannot help with replies they still get to post eventually. Although that last sentence makes XDA sound like a bit of a cult.
That would probably have stop me from posting my first though (Ironically a Samsung Galaxy Tab external SDCard booting method) but you win some/you lose some
In Fact If you want to get a little more draconian. you could introduce perma-bans for all sorts of minor indiscretions such as anyone who post the words "vs" In a thread title as we don't really need another thread about who's dog barks the loudest, anyone complaining about lack of support from the manufacturer, there are more but they escape me now
So in summary. PermaBan The Lot Of Em'
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Hi, I am new to XDA, and I just wanted to express my admiration of your ideas, as well as to the OP, truly a superb insight.
Idea: There should be a demarcation of topics and subforums known as the Noob forums. Unless and until you contribute something OTHER than a post (eg, a ROM, theme, or hack perhaps), you remain in the Noob forums.
Good idea?
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iPhone 4s return

Sooo....I got the 4S and feel like a took a step backwards. I know....I should have heeded people warnings. But I didn't. My question is this, is The Epic 4g Touch better than the 3d? Opinions are what counts. Honest opinions.
Just in case anyone feels the need, I have on my nomex, flame retardant underwear.

I came from an HTC Evo and I'm very happy with this phone. The phone is buttery smooth and feels complete. The screen on the ET is better than the 3D and I hear people get headaches when looking at 3D on the phone.
I believe the development community is better on HTC devices but that all can change when ICS comes around.
I noticed some members from the EVO thread on XDA around here.
I love this phone.

Thanks for the reply. I just know I'm not happy. I feel like I'm stuck in the mud. It seems too that the reception isn't all that good with this iPhone and I can't force it to roam. Therefore....my battery dies off really fast. Annoying!!

I have owned on sprint, HTC Evo, Evo 3d Photon and the Epic 4G touch now. The Touch is by far the best android phone on sprint. You will NOT look back. Also I'm looking to trade my Epic 4G Touch for Iphone 4s. I'm wanting to go to att and my wife wants a iphone. Let me know if you want to trade. Epic 4G touch is brand new and has screen protector on it.

well, lets make that 466,000 threads about epic vs ip4s 466,001.
Come on guys. Not trying to flame but there are at least half a dozen threads open about the same thing. Please search before posting to keep the forum uncluttered.

gqstatus0685 said:
I came from an HTC Evo and I'm very happy with this phone. The phone is buttery smooth and feels complete. The screen on the ET is better than the 3D and I hear people get headaches when looking at 3D on the phone.
I believe the development community is better on HTC devices but that all can change when ICS comes around.
I noticed some members from the EVO thread on XDA around here.
I love this phone.
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I am one of the former Evo owners and honestly I would recommend this phone. Fast smooth bright colors easily rootable and few nice themes and tricks. Also very light and nice size screen

Success100 said:
well, lets make that 466,000 threads about epic vs ip4s 466,001.
Come on guys. Not trying to flame but there are at least half a dozen threads open about the same thing. Please search before posting to keep the forum uncluttered.
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Did you really NOT read the OP at all cause this thread has nothing to do with Epic vs ip4s.

dkotoric said:
Did you really NOT read the OP at all cause this thread has nothing to do with Epic vs ip4s.
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your right i digress, add it to the 1.5 million et4g vs evo 3d threads in the general and q&a section. same principal, a quick search would have unveiled at least 10 threads of the same thing.
not trying to be a douche or troll but seeing the same threads over and over and over gets sort of annoying. Searching before posting is general forum etiquette and for us that have been on this board as well as others for a while, its annoying.

Success100 said:
your right i digress, add it to the 1.5 million et4g vs evo 3d threads in the general and q&a section. same principal, a quick search would have unveiled at least 10 threads of the same thing.
not trying to be a douche or troll but seeing the same threads over and over and over gets sort of annoying. Searching before posting is general forum etiquette and for us that have been on this board as well as others for a while, its annoying.
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Just like the other thread that gets posted every day .... When is epic touch getting cm7 ?
I understand the anger towards everyone who posts a thread like this ....flame them ....lulz
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Success100 said:
your right i digress, add it to the 1.5 million et4g vs evo 3d threads in the general and q&a section. same principal, a quick search would have unveiled at least 10 threads of the same thing.
not trying to be a douche or troll but seeing the same threads over and over and over gets sort of annoying. Searching before posting is general forum etiquette and for us that have been on this board as well as others for a while, its annoying.
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I think you just like to be an ass so you like to come into forums and complain, if it doesn't interest you move on to another thread. Remember I'm not the one with the OP i just think you are wasting peoples times and go take a hike.

I've had the E4GT since launch. I do not have one single negative thing to say about this phone. It is a fantastic device. Get one and never look back, well, at least for 2 years......

I used to have a Samsung Moment that I had rooted and installed a custom ROM, but it was time for me to upgrade. Well past the time. So, since my wife had needed a phone as well, we both had gotten an iPhone 4S. She loves it, but I missed Android. I ended up returning it and got the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4g Touch and it's like I am back where I belong.
The phone installs apps in no time. It has a great screen as well as having top of the line internal components. That, and it has Android. I do not like the UI it currently has, but that is the beauty of Android....I can change it.
I hope that helps.

dkotoric said:
I think you just like to be an ass so you like to come into forums and complain, if it doesn't interest you move on to another thread. Remember I'm not the one with the OP i just think you are wasting peoples times and go take a hike.
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Dude take it up with the mods. They will all tell u the same ****. Any forum..any plece anytime.
Search before postings. I don't care to argue with you, but forum etiquette is forum etiquette and people are quite frankly sick of seeing the same topics getting posted over and over again.
If you don't understand that principle..maybe it's you that needs too take a hike.

Success100 said:
Dude take it up with the mods. They will all tell u the same ****. Any forum..any plece anytime.
Search before postings. I don't care to argue with you, but forum etiquette is forum etiquette and people are quite frankly sick of seeing the same topics getting posted over and over again.
If you don't understand that principle..maybe it's you that needs too take a hike.
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I've been a member a long time...however I post only when I want/need info. I did a search....as yoda would say....Douche bag you are. If you really feel the thread is inappropriate, report it and move on. Leave the moderating to the moderators.
My flame resistant clothing is warm...but not on fire. I appreciate all the responses. To the guy that offered a trade....no thanks. I'm going to go to bestbuy and settle up there. I have the 32gb which is a $800.00 retail. 299 is what I paid.
Who knows....and to all the hater flaming on the thread....I hope to see you around E4gT forums.
Words to live by -->If you wouldn't say it to my face, don't type it either<--
It's the same thing you teach your kids....geesh!!
Or wait....maybe you missed that lesson??

What on earth is going on with the Relay 4G?

Okay, the time has come where I must ask.
The Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G came out in September of 2012. Since then it has quickly become the most requested phone of all time in the new forum request thread, gained an 80+ page thread in the G2 forum filled with information on how to unlock and hack the phone, and through the hard work of members trying to co-ordinate their efforts without an official way to communicate, gained an unlock method, a hacked recovery, and a functional CM9 ROM. Despite this, it still has no forum of its own. In fact, the threads that been instrumental in the work that's happened so far have recently been locked, making further developments much more difficult.
So I ask you, what on earth is the holdup?
I came to the Relay 4G from the Sidekick 4G. That was a phone that had great hardware, but due to a lack of support from Samsung, and a lack of development here, never got past the Froyo ROM it launched with. Now we've got a phone that looks like a worthwhile replacement for it, and people working on it, but they can't share their work here or connect with other people who could help. It feels like I'm being let down for the second time. First by Samsung, now by XDA. I'm afraid of this continues, development for it is going to trail off sharply as well once the phone loses it's newness. And I'd hate to be stuck with another phone with terrible software support. After all, I'm not the sort of person who can afford to casually buy a new smartphone every few months. And given how popular that thread was, I think we can safely say there are a lot more people who are eager to see this phone succeed.
I hope someone who knows what's going on can comment on this. I've worked on the board of a non-profit, so I know all too well what happens when a small number of people in control don't communicate with the larger membership. You've got a large group of people who are feeling let down, or outright angry right now. They're in the dark and upset and distrustful. And in the absence of reliable information, people are very good at spotting patterns, be they real or imagined, and turning them into very strongly held opinions. Speculation runs rampant. Then it doesn't take much to go from "Something happened" to "There's a conspiracy." And it can take years to get past the perception that something malicious went on. I urge you guys to communicate now and nip this one in the bud, before it blossoms into an ugly mess.

Any development which has been done for the Relay 4G can be posted in the Miscellaneous Android Development forum.
As you can notice just from looking down the first pages of that forum, those devices which don't have their own specific forum can have development projects posted there instead.
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We get that there is a misc development forum. There are already development threads there for the Relay. Our issue is that we had a discussion thread in the G2 forum for so long, with well over 800 posts, as well as threads in various other QWERTY phone forums. Nobody seemed to object to its existance there, and then out of nowhere we get a simple "off topic to this phone" reply and thread closure. Said thread deserved the decency of being moved to an appropriate forum, and now we have no idea where to discuss our device.
We are essentially lost with no explanation. The moderator I messaged gave me nothing more than a "we could have moved it, but nobody would know where. Do you expect me to pm every user?" I was then told that it is standard procedure to just shut a thread down. But one that big, where for so long nobody seemed to mind?
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pudgybunnyBry said:
We get that there is a misc development forum. There are already development threads there for the Relay. Our issue is that we had a discussion thread in the G2 forum for so long, with well over 800 posts, as well as threads in various other QWERTY phone forums. Nobody seemed to object to its existance there, and then out of nowhere we get a simple "off topic to this phone" reply and thread closure. Said thread deserved the decency of being moved to an appropriate forum, and now we have no idea where to discuss our device.
We are essentially lost with no explanation. The moderator I messaged gave me nothing more than a "we could have moved it, but nobody would know where. Do you expect me to pm every user?" I was then told that it is standard procedure to just shut a thread down. But one that big, where for so long nobody seemed to mind?
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Can you pm me a link to that thread please. I'll find a home for it somewhere.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

Thank you so much, it really is appreciated!

Where is this thread? I can't find it

[Official] What's your favorite __________?

Hi all,
In an effort to reduce the clutter of the General subforum we will be closing any "What's your favorite xxxxxx?" threads in General and ask that you please continue discussions here. Thank you for helping keep this section more organized and apologize for any inconvenience.
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So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?
So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.

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So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.
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In the US I used the T-Mobile/Wal-Mart plan for $30/month
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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:

Favorite launcher - TSF Shell (the animations, widgets, and overall look is awesome)

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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:
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I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...

Rokonacdc said:
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I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
Rokonacdc said:
*sigh... *
I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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SuperAfnan said:
I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Damn that's a lot of "thanks"! Wow.

Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.

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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
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There shouldn't be any off topic for any devices. As I see it, XDA is a development site, not a social network or a place to chat or vent. There is already an off topic section, found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261 which I think is more than enough for this site. The off topics only further clutter threads and important information and off topics, IMHO, are pointless.
That's just me though. If it were up to me I'd close them all and just stick to development and Q&As... Maybe that way members would at least read OPs and rules Lol....
But that's just me
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Honestly, the only threads in this section should concern the AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S3. There are general Android sections on XDA.