Let me first apologize if this is already addressed elsewhere, I tried searching to no avail. I should also say that I'm running rooted stock roms (seen this on both EL13 and EL29), but I really don't think root has anything to do with the problem.
I've had my E4GT since the weekend they came out, but for the last several months of been struggling with occasional system instability. Basically, sometimes the system will lock up and restart and then only stay up for a few minutes before restarting again... in a near endless cycle. If I shut the phone down and allow it to cool off... I can power it back on and maybe 1 out of 10 times it will stay up... and then it's stable for several weeks!
During the restart cycle, I've observed that system_server is consuming and inordinate amount of CPU.
Through trial and error I've determined that the problem is related to my SD card. I initially thought it was just a corrupt SD, but after several "slow" re-format's and two different cards, the problem eventually returns. I finally noticed that if I pull the SD card while the phone is off and boot it sans SD... its fine. However after re-inserting/mounting the SD card... 9/10 times the phone will begin its restart cycle.
I finally broke down and got out adb to capture bugreports. Based on what I'm seeing... this sounds quite similiar to an Issue on the Galaxy Tab reported here. In fact, reading that post is what made me finally pull the trigger and try EL29 (with no luck).
My limited understanding of what's going on is that something is causing the phone to deadlock (or at least think its deadlocked) and that's causing the WATCHDOG to kill/restart the system. Given the tie to the SD card, I feel like it either has something to do with (1) the media scan or (2) with apps being "mounted" from the SD card, or perhaps (3) a particularly misbehaving app that resides on my SD.
Running without an SD isn't going to cut it for me. I have way too many apps installed and way too much media (mostly podcasts). If it turns out to not be (1) or (2)... I'm just not ready to "shotgun" my way through my apps. I'm more than willing to toss a bad app, but given I have no idea where to start. I'm at a loss.
I've posted the adb bugreports on Google Docs here for both EL13 and EL29.
If anyone has any good ideas on how to debug this further, I would appreciate it. I'm this close to bailing on this phone, but frankly I don't have the money (or upgrades) to do it right now.
Well, after over a week of stability, this evening my phone brushed up against my leg and was burning hot. Sure enough I found it repeatedly restarting android again. Rebooted without the sd and it was fine for a
Half-hour. Reinserted the sd and it restarted again within a few minutes.
If anyone has clues as to what to look for, I would highly appreciate it.
Thanks
-Alan
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Still an issue. Still looking for help. I'd post this in Development, but I don't have privs. I'd appreciate it if anyone that does would be willing to call this to the attention of the development community.
Only updates are:
1) I've tried freezing 90% of the apps I have installed on the SD.
2)I also purchased a new, Samsung class 10, 32gb sd card hoping that Samsung's cards would play nicer...
Neither appeared to have helped.
For the record, I'm open to flashing roms or editing system files... just not sure what to try next.
Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried a different battery yet?
Also, blown put the sd slot, made sure the area there is clear.
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Also curious why you haven't brought it in for warranty replacement yet. I wouldn't have waited this long.
Mostly because this doesn't feel to me like a defect. Maybe it is... and maybe I should have... but it feels more to me like a bug that something in my particuliar configuration has stumbled across.
I don't have any kind of extended warranty and I'm not sure what the original warranty on the phone is.
Finally I'm rooted, which voids the warranty. I can certainly undo that... but if it's not warranty-related and/or I'm going to have to pay out of pocket... it doesn't seam worth the trouble to me.
I suppose I can always walk into a Sprint store and ask about the warranty status.
As for the battery suggestion.... I don't see how that's relevant. I get generally quite good battery life. Looking at the bug reports you can clearly see that the system_sever has a deadlock processing trying to access a List in Java (with another process that remains a mystery to me).
Ok, well are you up to trying a full wipe and reprovisioning? I mean factory reset and reprovisioning, format both SD's and one-click odin back to stock rooted with CWM (in about that order). I don't know what you're running but it couldn't hurt to try. I posted 2 different things for this, I'm sure you're familiar with some of this:
Reprovisioning (it's not that hard but you have to follow the instructions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26131653&postcount=4244
Format, one-click:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24056900&postcount=9930
Btw, the warranty is one year for our phones. Even if you don't have insurance, taking it to Sprint will probably cost about $35.00 for them to troubleshoot and send the phone out (nothing is free at the Sprint store ). Maybe they'll just give you another one outright, I can't say.
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Alright guys, I'm not exactly new here, I've been a member for awhile, but I had an iPhone 3g S for awhile and had no need of any help. I have since switched to Sprint and decides I was getting the HTC EVO 4G...go figure, I buy it no more then a ask before it takes a price cut of $50. Oh well, no big deal. Moving on to my problem, I've had it for about and overall, the phone is decent. Much like you guys, I want my phones to keep up with me and although it tries hard, it just can't. Recently I've been having two problems. The first one, a random reboot, which seems to be caused by heat/charging/overuse issues. This, I have found, is a very common issue with the EVOs and regardless of the inconvenience, its not serious, yet.
My second, albeit more troublesome, problem, is the rebooting loop, again seems to be a very common issue with the EVOs. Mine, however, seems to not fit the description. From what I've been reading, the reboots are typically on the original models, where mine is over a year newer. Another difference, my phone loads everything up, completes a sync, then reboot again. The only time it gets stuck in a reboot loop is when the phone, whether by itself or by my own doing, reboot AND has an SD card in there. I can remove the SD cars during the loop and everything works perfectly fine...except it takes me about 3 minutes to remove my SD card since I have an Otter box defender case on it.
My EVO is NOT rooted, has all current updates installed, has the OEM SD card...OEM everything actually, and all apps are installed on the phone now. When it first started happening, it was shortly after I downloaded an app update from the store for an app that was on my phone. I figured the download must have corrupted a file, the phone failed to load it, then reboots. I would uninstall the apps I thought to be the culprits, reinstated the SD card, everything worked, until a few minutes ago, when it reboot looped on me again and I realized I no longer have apps on my SD card...what do I do? Phone works perfectly fine without the SD card installed, but I like being able to take pictures and saving them. I don't even have the option to save them locally, which is bull.
Just a quick reminder, I have searched the forums, I've also searched al of Google with no revolting loops similar to my SD card issue appearing. I have a lot of pictures on my SD card currently and have another one to try, but I'm not sure how long I'd have to wait before the boot looping happens again. Any insight would be greatly appreciated and if I happened to have missed the post where there was already a fix for this, I'm sorry.
P.S. I'm sorry for any grammar or spelling mistakes, the autocorrect on Android isn't near as Goo as iOS. I love Android, but if I have to get a new phone, I'm going back to the iPhone.
Hey guys, mainly just a bump, this is a fairly big issue and I'd like to atleast know what you guys think. If it happened to you, what would be your first course of action. Is there maybe another thread that covers this that I missed? Should I just yell at Sprint and tell them I want a new phone? Is there more information I should provide? If so, what? Thanks for any help.
I would suggest running an RUU, first, I am on my phone so I don't have a link. Other than that, I would say take it in to the store
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Found the latest RUU for you:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cd5....15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_209995_signed.exe
Download it, click on it. The instructions are self-explanatory
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Hey guys, mainly just a bump, this is a fairly big issue and I'd like to atleast know what you guys think. If it happened to you, what would be your first course of action. Is there maybe another thread that covers this that I missed? Should I just yell at Sprint and tell them I want a new phone? Is there more information I should provide? If so, what? Thanks for any help.
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you said you've had the phone "about a " but then you didn't fill in the time frame. So either you're Christopher Nolan or i'm assuming you meant a short period of time. if that were the case - in all honesty, i would just exchange it out.
you haven't rooted, it's all stock, you haven't really put much effort into it - why not just go swap it out.
that's what i would do anyway...
i got my evo pretty much at launch. i have a stuck pixel and the screen white issue - i was too lazy to return it and didn't want to wait for the exchange so i have just lived with it for 18 months. sometimes i wish i'd exhanged it, but i had already put quite a bit of time into rooting, tweaking etc. you haven't - so why not just start over?
And not to bash the iPhone - my wife has one - but after using the Evo i could never go back to using an iphone... just sayin
Okay, I will try to describe this as best as I can, to get some resolution to this issue without having to deal with more people that aren't/can't help. About 40 days ago, I bought the Galaxy Nexus from rogers, after loosing my previous phone to a car tire moving at about 55(Don't ask, long story, and not really on topic). It was nice, but as usual had the huge amount of useless garbage on it, so I got it rooted and removed the useless programs. about 10 days into having the phone I noticed that I would suddenly not be able to send out messages, but I could receive them, unless I rebooted the phone, and I would work for a random amount of time, then I wouldn't be able to text out again. eventually this turned into not being able to text at all, followed by random reboots a few days later, until I couldnt even use the phone as a phone or use mobile data. So I reverted the phone back to fully stock, and brought it back to Rogers, with literally minutes before my 15 day no hassle switch ( which I probably should have done, but my phone has become a necessary extension to my own brain (car accident) and I cannot go without it to remind me of various necessary things while I am out) and at that time they finally had thought "...hey, maybe your sim card was damaged, lets try a new one..." which, after yet another factory reset, brought the phone back to life. last night it started again, but this time happened over a period of hours, not days, and was almost impossible to revert back to stock. I eventually got it working by installing ICS 4.0.1 and letting it do a factory update, then calling rogers tech and having them do something remotely to get the phone working again. I checked the storage space, and it show (Just after a factory reset) 13.8GB, almost 80MB for apps leaving me with 13 GB. WTF? How does a STOCK factory ROM take up almost 3 GB of space? So I called Samsung directly, explained the situation, and told them that if they could walk me through the process of gaining access to the locked partition, or whatever the OS is on...and format the card to get my 16GB back and reflash the partitions with the stock OS on it, I would be more then capable, seeing that without the phone I am stuck at home using my computer as my reminder for things....They obviously refused, stating an "against policy" crap, and it would void the warranty, I don't them I didnt care about the warranty, I just want the phone I paid for. So IF there is SOMEONE on there that knows how to do this and could clearly put out step by step of how, I would be MORE than grateful for the help, like I said, right now the phone "works", but I am missing almost 3 GB for some reason, and I am trying to get that back without the need to be stuck in my own home like a prisoner for 4-6 weeks while I wait for them to do something I can do myself with proper instruction.
Phew, sorry for the long winded rant....I am more then a little displeased with both Rogers and Samsung....and when all I can do is look out my window to see what a nice day it is that I am missing, well...you get the idea. So if someone can save me the time and hassle, I would be more then willing to "buy the beer" as it were...
All the Gnexus have only 13gb out of the box. The OS takes up the rest. Nothing you can do unless you remove some of the stock apps.
13GB are the real space available, so thats normal
what a long post man..next time search on google
Yeah every device, computer, hdd, flashdrive, PS, XBOX, etc. is always less storage than what they advertise. Like the others said some of this storage is used up by the OS and preinstalled things.
I don't know what's wrong with you guys but I have 28GB usable storage after the OS. Clear out your /mnt/sdcard. Depending on how you did your factory restore that folder might not have been wiped.
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I don't know what's wrong with you guys but I have 28GB usable storage after the OS. Clear out your /mnt/sdcard. Depending on how you did your factory restore that folder might not have been wiped.
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Thats because you have a 32gb version instead of the 16gb GSM version
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I don't know what's wrong with you guys but I have 28GB usable storage after the OS. Clear out your /mnt/sdcard. Depending on how you did your factory restore that folder might not have been wiped.
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LTE version comes out of the box with 32gb. The GSM model has 16gb.
13 after the apps and OS ? are u 100% on that? Cause when I got it I could have sworn it was around 14-15....even the guys at Samsung said its wrong, but would rather spend their money, and my time sending it in, then helping me fix it myself. Lol, and ya, it was a very long post, guess I should wait to calm down before posting........or erm, like now
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13 after the apps and OS ? are u 100% on that? Cause when I got it I could have sworn it was around 14-15....even the guys at Samsung said its wrong, but would rather spend their money, and my time sending it in, then helping me fix it myself. Lol, and ya, it was a very long post, guess I should wait to calm down before posting........or erm, like now
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13.33gb free under storage.
It was that way when I bought it and my 16gb nexus s was the same.
... I wonder why even Samsung themselves said it was wrong...probably would have said I effed something up, and try to charge me for it. Sadly I specifically asked for their most knowledgeable tech, and after 10 mins of getting the run around, I asked if he even knew what DOS was, to which he could only dumbfoundedly fumble to a non answer, and changed the subject....
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Manufacturers measure HD space by powers of 1000. Operating systems measure HD space by powers of 1024.
Manufacturers: 1GB = 1,000,000,000
Operating System: 1GB = 1,073,741,824
So if Samsung says the HD is 16GB, the OS will show it as 15.625GB
So some of the discrepancy is because its being measured differently. And like others have pointed out, the rest is because of the space the OS needs.
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Okay then, so no problems after all. Thanks for all the help, and letting me vent without getting pummeled with nasty comments, like some other sites I'm sure we all know of
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Hi,
I've got my GN for about 2 years now. It always runned fine. I use it essentially to make calls, mails, some european "anti-cop" app called "icoyote", spotify and that's it
Everything stock, full google official, no cracked bull**** apps or whatever.
Ok so now for about 1 month it became less and less stable. It literally happened from one day to another. I guarantee i didn't add/change or remove anything.
Main issues are : spotify crashes many times (~20 to 50) a day and 50% of the time the GPS fix fails to go trough, but a simple reboot and it work's instantly.
So I tought I should make a full factory reset. I did that and the issues I was experiencing remained the same.
Now comes the 1million $ question : how the heck can something stop to work from one day to another ? If it was some *unpredicted*, classic hardware failure, a simple reboot would definitely not solve it, for sure.
Leading to think it has to be software related..OK, so a factory reset should solve : it doesn't neither.
Why are those apps crashing even in a very stock/factory config? I even did skip this google restore profile bull**** to be sure i'm workng in a perfect clean state.
The only logic conclusion is that there must be some kind of hard coded counter which reached the end and is now triggering randomly something, *i don't know based on what, or activated how* making this **** happen
It's very very very frustrating because it was working like a charm those past 2 years and i thought it was a good investment. I was obviously wrong, another death scheduled device.
Now with the 4.3, I got the feeling it becomes even worse. Today, I had to reboot 4 times to get a gps fix (working 100% of the time just after the reboot) and it was a hassle to get trough 2 songs without being cut off in the middle of it.
FU samsung
But you only tried to flash 4.3. It's like giving a patient only 1 medicine and when that not works declare him dead. There maybe other ways to revive your phone..
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when did i say that ? i'm done by years flashing a tool I use to work with. i'm not using it as a toy.
i received the update ota
there's nothing left to try, since my last basic test's where made in a official google factory default situation on a google phone
it's just stock u see? everything else i could try from this point would lead to a non-default situation making every further considerations totally pointless
Well, if i'm right, the so called "crash-routine" would *maybe* not be present in a custom rom, but, again, it worked before and has to work the same way now.
I refuse to use any other workarounds than factory resetting it and, since i already did that a few times, i'm done
i'm not awaiting some kind of help here. i'm just exposing my case and the frustration i'm feeling since samsung nicely dry-fcked me ^^
Don't know why you're acting up for no reason.
It doesn't take a genius to understand and figure out that applications designed and updated for 4.2.2 will most likely not work on 4.3 until the devs update it to work on 4.3. Which, from my experience, doesn't take long at all. That's probably one of the solutions to your few problems.
Way to take things a little too far and throw a tantrum rather than seeking help.
Also, if you have no intentions of seeking a fix then you didn't need to post anything at all.
You're not waiting around here for help? Well, I'm not going to offer help to someone with that kind of attitude.
Peace out you won't be missed.
BTW, there's nothing left to try? LOL
There's about 7 things left to try and one of them would have definitely worked 100%. Figure it out on your own since you know everything.
Read this. It's called Planned Obsolescence. Manufactures purposely make devices with limited lifespan in order to upgrade to their next new device.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
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Fastboot, Odin, omap.. All stock..
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Don't know why you're acting up for no reason.
It doesn't take a genius to understand and figure out that applications designed and updated for 4.2.2 will most likely not work on 4.3 until the devs update it to work on 4.3. Which, from my experience, doesn't take long at all. That's probably one of the solutions to your few problems.
Way to take things a little too far and throw a tantrum rather than seeking help.
Also, if you have no intentions of seeking a fix then you didn't need to post anything at all.
You're not waiting around here for help? Well, I'm not going to offer help to someone with that kind of attitude.
Peace out you won't be missed.
BTW, there's nothing left to try? LOL
There's about 7 things left to try and one of them would have definitely worked 100%. Figure it out on your own since you know everything.
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I ain't here to help either, i just couldn't agree more with what he said above... and its 2013, everyone knows that every electronic sh*t comes with a limited life span, if you didnt know that until now, i'm not sure where you been living..
Peace \m/.
Try wiping your SD card
I've read a lot about SDS and there seems to be no general consensus on the symptoms of it. Some people say they can enter recovery/dl/etc but the phone crashes all the time. Others say that their phone doesn't turn on at all and won't charge.
Here is my issue with my S3.
I just recently installed 4.3 pacman rom. I got everything set up and everything was going great. I tried to flash ACID MOD 7.0/DevilKernel, and they both failed, so I rebooted back into the system and the phone just shut off.
If I take the battery out and hook it up to a charger, the LED will light up. However, if I plug it in with the battery already inside of it, the LED does not turn on. Also, if I hook up the phone to my computer, it'll make a sound like it is trying to mount the device, but it'll make a stutter sound like it failed. It doesn't do this automatically, it only does it if I try to enter recovery/download mode/or turn the phone on.
I'm not sure if the phone is completely dead, or bricked, or what is going on? Or if anyone has any other suggestions - other than changing the battery, which I did do, lol.
Sounds bricked. What model is you s3 btw? And can you post links to everything you've flashed?
SDS doesn't affect our S3's, it was only the international model that had this issue, and I believe it was only on the original firmware.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015525
latest nightly
+ 4.3 gapps. it booted fine from gapps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38599629&postcount=1005
acid mod v7
2802 + 2805 for sammy devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240832
devil kernel
prior to flashing pac i installed 2.6.3 twrp because the 2.5.x i was on did not work. i booted in, flashed pac, got everything set up. after restoring the apps and whatnot, i went back to twrp to install acid + devil kernel. they both failed, so i just rebooted from there and it never turned back on. i just assumed the battery was dead, charged my bat in my external charger, and yeah, never turned on since then.
any way to do this without jtag? i'm not at home right now to do something like that and am out of the country, so im a bit unsure how hard it'd be to get those supplies.
i was able to go to a samsung a/s place, but they would only send back to america. i don't think it is worth paying 200+ when this phone is probably only worth 400 or so out of the box, brand new, maybe even less.
i just assumed it was SDS because the symptoms seemed spot on, but it was really weird. i've never had any issues like this flashing roms and it wont' even go to the boot logo. if i plug it in, it makes it seem like it is trying to mount, but there are no vibrations or anything like that on the phone.
thanks for all the help doc, like always.
Thanks for providing the links! Makes it so much easier to help when we don't have to search for everything!
I'm afraid you have bricked your device. I don't know about the Acid mods compatibility with our device, so it may be part of the problem, but that kernel is for the international S3 (I9300/9305). (I'm assuming you have the T999 btw). Never flash anything for the international models, you're nearly guaranteed to brick the phone!
But there's hope! Verify your model number by looking under the battery. Then check out KAsp3rd's unbrick thread in the development section. It should be towards the top.
Give that a shot and say a prayer! It won't fix all bricks, it depends on what was overwritten, but there's a good chance it'll fix yours!
In the future, it's best to stay out of the international models forum altogether! The devices are very different and you take a huge risk when using anything you find there!
Good luck!
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Thanks Doc. I don't think it'll be fixed unless someone in that thread wants to try to flash that devil kernel and see if they can unbrick it w/o jtag. I followed those instructions to a T, and no dice. Although, I can't really tell if my battery is charged right now. I don't have my external charger on me. I will try again tomorrow, but I really doubt it at this point.
Really? Maybe give it another try with a different SD if possible. I saw the posts there and there's no reason I can see that it wouldn't fix when aboot got overwritten.
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Really? Maybe give it another try with a different SD if possible. I saw the posts there and there's no reason I can see that it wouldn't fix when aboot got overwritten.
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Yeah, it is really weird.
After some toying with it I figured out that it only tries to mount the device when connected to the computer IF and only IF my phone is connected to the computer with no battery. It didn't do this before, which is odd. Even if I take out the SD card it still does this now. Before it would fail to make any sound, and now it tries to install the driver. But then it says it fails to install the driver for it, which is the bricked one, the SUBS DWLND or whatever.
I tried following Kasp3rd's advice to hold the button down longer, and I held it down for a whole five minutes with no luck.
I will try another SD when I get the chance, right now I only have a 64gb with no avail to back it up. The SD card is super old though, you are right Doc. It is from my OG droid, but really I haven't had a need for SD cards since I was on an iPhone after my droid and since the S3 is mine, but i'm not using it, I never really bought a nice SD card for it.
I'm going to run to the store in a bit to get one though and hopefully that will make a difference?
May have missed the part about it being 64GB before. Could be the age, but also those 64's have given lots of folks some problems in the past. Seems the S3 can be a bit finicky with those.
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Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
pete4k said:
If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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There is actually an easy way to not worry about the blacklisted issue before you ever buy a phone from someone. You can go to www.swappa.com/esn and check the status of the phone by entering it's IMEI. We buy and resell phones a lot and this is how we check them. You can check up to 10 phones free every 24 hours on the site.
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Sounds like you did get lucky and come across someone who wasn't tech savvy at all, and had no idea how simple it was to fix. But hey... that's their lose and your gain.
If you do decide to root it at some point and want to run a custom ROM, click on the top banner in my signature and check it out. I think you might just like it.
kevp75 said:
If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
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Yeah man, there is an awesome custom ROM out for this phone. I can't remember the name right off hand, but I'm sure you've heard of it. Haha
pete4k said:
Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
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You can freeze them, but in my opinion if you've gone to the trouble of rooting it, you might as well completely remove the bloatware. If all you do is freeze the apps, they are still there needlessly taking up the internal storage. There are a few lists on here that tells what is safe to remove without fear of messing the phone up.
problem with deleting "bloatware" is two fold: some programs are interdependent and deleting one you don't want may break another you need. Also, I don't know about others, but I changed my mind in the past and reactivated some applications I never thought I'll be using before.
As far as space goes, the whole system uses 4 GB maybe, so you could save 1 GB, if you're aggressive deleting files, probably couple min of 4k video worth. I got 128 GB sd card, problem solved. Maybe different story with Note 5, but that's one of main reasons I never upgraded.
Either way I strongly suggest at least freezing apps and testing before deleting it.
TimboMachimbo said:
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
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Lmao
Still been using the device to watch stuff on wifi @ home and **** Can't use it as my daily driver it's just to big :0 anyway the other hidden issue that I found out about it is that the charging port is kinda beaten up especially on the left side. Sometimes you can plug the cable in and it won't charge until you apply little pressure on the connectors left side it's time to do this http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Ribbon-Connector-Samsung-T-Mobile/dp/B00H3DZRXC/
Alliance Rom
4xxxxL said:
Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
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Flash Alliance 5.0 Lollipop ...best rom for note 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-alliancerom-n900t-uvufob6-v1-online-t3055309
Replaced the charging port with the $5 one I bought via Amazon... charging worked great but the voice recording and mic in general sounded garbled had to put the broken one back lol :S