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Headphones

Hello!
Thread especially made for headphone segment of the Xperia X8.
Also if you need help with picking a headphones for your phone post here,
i'll help if i can.
P.S.Sennheiser CX500 G4ME arriving in 2weeks so i'll pop a review and comparison beetwen the stock one and these.

I just got my X8 today and tried using it with my aftermarket iPhone ones and found they didn't work at all.
It works with the included headphones of course, but they're not very good (they don't even hold in my ears very well, which is a worry when I'm hoping to use them while running or cycling) and it works with ordinary (no microphone) 3.5mm headphones.
The plug of the iPhone headphones looks similar to the one of the Sony headphones but for some reason the X8 completely ignores them, it doesn't even send sound to the earphones let alone take microphone input.
Meanwhile, the Sony ones work on my iPod but they're extremely quiet.
Can someone confirm that this is in fact true generally, not just for my (two pairs of) iPhone headphones which I tried?
Is there any way I can get iPhone headphones to work with it (desirable because these earphones are easy to find and buy, relatively cheap and with wide choice) or do I have to stick with special Sony ones?
A major reason behind me getting my new phone was that I was sick of the crap Nokia pulled with my old phone requiring proprietary headphones with their connector. It's nice that the X8 works with standard non-microphone 3.5mm earphones, but what's the deal with microphone ones?

I use this nokia headphones for my xperia. Mic works as well as call button. All other nokia headphones with volume control won't work!
Xperia has unique jack for headphones with music controls...and I hate them for that! Original ones for music player are too expensive

I use the same ones as they're great for skype!

I1m using sennheiser HD 518 and they are great !!

Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).

I bought the mh810 and i use them while cycling.
The headphones are excellent. Its a shame they don't work on the big x10
I got mine for £12 off ebay
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Has anyone tried something like this - bluetooth stereo headphones?

i used to use blue-tooth stereo headphones on my mobile previously but a different model from those. i found there was quite high battery drain, but that might have been just my phone..

DrMokusatsu said:
I just got my X8 today and tried using it with my aftermarket iPhone ones and found they didn't work at all.
It works with the included headphones of course, but they're not very good (they don't even hold in my ears very well, which is a worry when I'm hoping to use them while running or cycling) and it works with ordinary (no microphone) 3.5mm headphones.
The plug of the iPhone headphones looks similar to the one of the Sony headphones but for some reason the X8 completely ignores them, it doesn't even send sound to the earphones let alone take microphone input.
Meanwhile, the Sony ones work on my iPod but they're extremely quiet.
Can someone confirm that this is in fact true generally, not just for my (two pairs of) iPhone headphones which I tried?
Is there any way I can get iPhone headphones to work with it (desirable because these earphones are easy to find and buy, relatively cheap and with wide choice) or do I have to stick with special Sony ones?
A major reason behind me getting my new phone was that I was sick of the crap Nokia pulled with my old phone requiring proprietary headphones with their connector. It's nice that the X8 works with standard non-microphone 3.5mm earphones, but what's the deal with microphone ones?
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Confirmed. SE stock does not work with IPods, well you could make it work by pulling the connector out a little. It's due to the speaker part of the connector is differently recognized by SE and Apple. My apple headphones broke down a long time ago so can't test.

OEM SE headphones that come out of the box with W810i work pretty well, but the wire is short.

Charmed :) said:
I use this nokia headphones for my xperia. Mic works as well as call button. All other nokia headphones with volume control won't work!
Xperia has unique jack for headphones with music controls...and I hate them for that! Original ones for music player are too expensive
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can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
Case87 said:
I1m using sennheiser HD 518 and they are great !!
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same question.. can u use for receiving incoming call without sliding the phone
sanefirst said:
Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).
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the worst thing is,,, none in my country selling that..
hope because i doesn.t find the shop yet...

cuecak said:
can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
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Model is HS-45, AD-57
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/headsets/wired-headsets/hs-45-ad-57
yes, you can answer the phone with button on the headset!
cuecak said:
the worst thing is,,, none in my country selling that..
hope because i doesn.t find the shop yet...
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you can find it on ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-GENUINE-SONY-ERICSSON-MH810-X10-MINI-PRO-YENDO-X8-/190516441106?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item2c5baa3012#ht_1128wt_1139

cuecak said:
can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
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You can install AutoAnswer and use stock earphones.

air.surfer said:
You can install AutoAnswer and use stock earphones.
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Yes,but if someone calls and you don't wanna answer?

I'm aleady using Jabra BT620s bluetooth headset and its realy good.

sanefirst said:
Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).
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Just ordered one from ebay

i use headphones from Galaxy S and i like what i hear , the stock headphones are kinda mizerable.

hi i use my xperia x8 with bluetooth headphone hbh-ds205 and everthing work fine for me

wait till w8 comes and buy the head phone which is bundled with it... simple

iBeats headphone issue

Hi Guys.i have got a ibeats headphone from inside the htc sensation xe.But it doesnt work with arc s.When I connected the headset phone give error.it say unsupported device.what can i do about this issue?
Sorry for my english.Thanks

magicli said:
Hi Guys.i have got a ibeats headphone from inside the htc sensation xe.But it doesnt work with arc s.When I connected the headset phone give error.it say unsupported device.what can i do about this issue?
Sorry for my english.Thanks
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Any kind of headphones with a Talk Controller or microphone will not work with Sony Ericsson devices. Sony did something to the AUX port and its connections are inverted or something. I read a while back when i bought my pair of Dr.Dre beats.
I just got my LiveSound Headset and it does the same thing on my Asus Transformer like the DreBeats did on my Sony Ericsson. Great set of headphones Much better then Dr.Dre Beats and cheaper too.

I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612

magicli said:
I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612
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WoW what a solution

iPhone+BlackBerry and SE+Nokia are using different standards for pin-outs on headphone jacks, so you have to change either headset, or headphones..
i hate all those companies for doing this kind of thing to us

HSNalfar3 said:
WoW what a solution
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Yeah...
I think I'm going to tosh around a few hundred bucks for a new phone, because I don't like Arc's default ringtones.

iridaki said:
Yeah...
I think I'm going to tosh around a few hundred bucks for a new phone, because I don't like Arc's default ringtones.
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I'm going to sell mine because I don't like the wallpapers.

Haha, cazy and funny solution
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Is it so hard to use the Standard SE cable with mic/switch and plug in whatever headphones to that? For crying out loud! That's what I do and EVERY single pair of headphones that had issues does not do it if you plug them in that way! For now though, I found some nice ear buds that were for the xperia pure, I use them with the standard cable and the sound quality is fantastic.

There is a APK somewhere in SYSTEM folder that detects the unsupported headphone have someone tried to delete it and test it? Atleast we can get the headphones to work

Would this problem also occur when using my own headphones? (original iBeats, not from htc)

try to find a neutral stereo plug, they're included in marshal or urbanears headphone
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make an adapter... every manufacture only invert, and change the position
(download electrodroid from market, theres many port mapping)
re-route using adapter
sorry for bad english

There is a software solution for this?
say, a modding or something?
or just selling the same S Arc? lol
thank you

u can try to modify hardware

I ordered an MH1 LiveSound Headset in white for 19.99GBP and 1.99GBP shipping off eBay yesterday and they came today. The flat anti tangle cable is way better than the iBeats cable & the mic/control unit is a better quality than the iBeats, the sound quality is way better than the stock black headset that comes in the box of the Arc S and I would say it's on a par with the Audio quality of the iBeats. I've got the LiveKey set up to launch Play Music via LiveKey Launchee that's available in the Play Store, I might set it up to control Track ID or FM Radio as the Music Control feature on the LiveView kind of makes it obsolete, as there is no propper Music Control on the MH1s other than Volume & Play/Pause using the middle button.
I chose the white MH1s only on the grounds that they go nicely with my white Arc S. I tried using the white headset that came with my X8 but the sound was really poor compared with the black headset that comes with the Arc S.
Roland
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magicli said:
I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612
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Thanks for the tip ...
I solved the problem also, I bought a HTC Sensation XE lol
like device.
thank you

LiveSound vs. SE in-box headset

i just ordered the livedock and thought about the livesound.
i need a good headset because im technically 24/7 listening to music.
now i just use the headset that comes with the xperia arc but i have to know how is the livesound compare to the stock headset? is there any difference from the bass, the volume and the quality?

I do not know about LiveSound, but MW600 is awsome!!! And it is wire free!!!

Mw600 or livesound...go for it. Im using livesound as we speak. I had mw600 till it broke
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rkanwar said:
Mw600 or livesound...go for it. Im using livesound as we speak. I had mw600 till it broke
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Which one was the best ?

To be honest livesound has the better sound quality. Though the mw600 was good too expect sometimes id hear crackles even if the phone is right next to me. Plus the upside of the licesound is that you wont be using battery on the phone for bluetooth either
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i use a mw600 with sennheiser cx 300 earphones and sound is clear and powerfull

I will disagree about battery for bluetooth...Practice shows that powerfull earphones (cord) uses more battery trugh high impedance... I consider it with W950i( great phone!!!) + HBH-DS220 instead of Koss earphones or stock HPM-85... I see that it is working for an ArcS + MW600... MW600 great choice, for me I am using it with my Laptop for music, movies and skype...and I hate wires now)))

i got the cx300 too btw.
so should i buy the mw600 or the livesound? all i need is the buttons for the music, good bass, good quality and high volume.
so which do you think is better?

1-0 for MW600. But you should hear some from people who heared both...MW600 and LiveSound.

All the same to me, i have been trying to find the stupid livesound everywhere in mexico and nobody sells, im tired of looking 4 it.
and SE online sales are useless btw, they tell me to look for them in convenience stores cuz there are no more online sales at least for mexico.

the livesound headset is simply amazing, i have to use playerpro boost bass with the stock headset, but livesound just gives better bass quality.

Sound quality

Guys, I will be having a Verizon xperia Play in a few days. I wanted to ask what is your view on sound quality and bass as compared to phones like nexus S?

Well for me sound quality isn't equivalent to the amount of bass. My suggestion is to simply upgrade the headphone for that or buy a phone with hip branding such as DrDre phones.
I care more about clarity and I must say the Play have excellent sound quality, to my ears comparable to the Galaxy S though with smoother signature. I have to say Galaxy S with Voodoo kernel have the edge especially the RMAA test show the S with more accurate responses, but I prefer the way the Play is tuned for the ears. Also the stereo speakers are better.
I am actually not fond of supporting Sony, but if their other phones sound this good with similar smooth sound I might have to consider them for the future because good sounding Android phones are not abundant, especially coming from the Galaxy S.
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eksasol said:
Well for me sound quality isn't equivalent to the amount of bass. My suggestion is to simply upgrade the headphone for that or buy a phone with hip branding such as DrDre phones.
I care more about clarity and I must say the Play have excellent sound quality, to my ears comparable to the Galaxy S though with smoother signature. I have to say Galaxy S with Voodoo kernel have the edge especially the RMAA test show the S with more accurate responses, but I prefer the way the Play is tuned for the ears. Also the stereo speakers are better.
I am actually not fond of supporting Sony, but if their other phones sound this good with similar smooth sound I might have to consider them for the future because good sounding Android phones are not abundant, especially coming from the Galaxy S.
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Thanks buddy for your view on this.

I have a pair of AKG 518 and a Sennheiser HD202 and i gotta say that the best sound quality i've listen is from the iPhone/iPod.
I've never tested the Nexus S, but others phones like Nexus (I don't know how different from Nexus S is), Galaxy SII, Galaxy Ace, and for me, as lekhwani said, the Galaxy is probably a better option with the voodoo kernel (and even wihtout it). The Xperia Play doesn´t have a bad sound quality, but does not satisfied a person who is looking for the best sound quality in music.
If you care more about the music than the games and you don´t have enough money, you should probably go for an iPhone 3G.
Talking about headphones, if you really like a heavy bass, the Dr. Dre Beats Audio headphones are good, but if you really want to listen to a better and clear audio you should try something from AKG, Sennheiser or AIAIAI (go to a BestBuy and try yourself).
In my personal opinion Xperia Play sound quality is not good enough, not even with apps like poweramp or walkman player. The only really good thing in the XPlay is the stereo speaker.
Why are you exactly getting an Xperia Play?

lekhwani said:
Guys, I will be having a Verizon xperia Play in a few days. I wanted to ask what is your view on sound quality and bass as compared to phones like nexus S?
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Of course Xperia Play has the loudest sound in smartphones world because it has 2 speakers
But when talking about the purity, I think there are phones have a purer sound

i've actually tested the xperia play vs my brothers galaxy nexus and the play actually had better mids and highs with better overall sound.
i'm in music production and used both hd-650's and yamaha hs-50's.
http://www.reverbnation.com/channelkmusic

Guys, I received mine about a few hours back. I am very much impressed with the build quality.
But seems I have some problem. Mine did not come with earphones. I have tried several others earphones and headphones. The sound seems muffled and abnormal and bass is completely missing and lyrics are very low. .
I researched a bit and found that my phone might have one of these issues.
1.Faulty Device, or
2.Proprietary Xperia Play Earphones needed.
I used extreme bass on Power AMP but saw no bass. Also used equalizer app to no avail.
I tried brainwavz, skull candy, creative, philips, lg, Sony Ericsson Xperia pro mk16i earphones. But the sound was not much different in any of these.
Kindly suggest me what do?

You need to get some xperia play earphones or an adapter

It should be fine with regular stereo headphones, but for headset it must be Sony.
legacygt777 said:
i've actually tested the xperia play vs my brothers galaxy nexus and the play actually had better mids and highs with better overall sound.
i'm in music production and used both hd-650's and yamaha hs-50's.
http://www.reverbnation.com/channelkmusic
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The galaxy nexus is known to have a poor sounding dac (by TI I think), so is the SII (Yamaha). The Galaxy S and international SIII are the ones with Wolfson dac. The dac for the Qualcomm S4 phones are supposed to sound decent to.
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I have tried various stereo earphones and headphones, but no difference in sound.
I tried Xperia pro earphones also. No difference.
Can a adapter or original Xperia play earphones make any difference?
Or, do I have a faulty device?

lekhwani said:
I have tried various stereo earphones and headphones, but no difference in sound.
I tried Xperia pro earphones also. No difference.
Can a adapter or original Xperia play earphones make any difference?
Or, do I have a faulty device?
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As I said before, I'm using a pair of AKG 518 and Sennheiser HD202, both sound perfectly normal with poweramp. No adapter or any other thing used. Must be a proble with you phone probably
eksasol said:
It should be fine with regular stereo headphones, but for headset it must be Sony.
The galaxy nexus is known to have a poor sounding dac (by TI I think), so is the SII (Yamaha). The Galaxy S and international SIII are the ones with Wolfson dac. The dac for the Qualcomm S4 phones are supposed to sound decent to.
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Probably is just me but i'd rather how my headphones sound in the Galaxy SII that in my Xperia Play.

I use a $10 pair of headphones I got from gamestop, along with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer and xloud (not sure if it helps or not for headphones, but it does for speakers)....I hear noticeable bass and I don't use the adapter.
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brsingr said:
I use a $10 pair of headphones I got from gamestop, along with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer and xloud (not sure if it helps or not for headphones, but it does for speakers)....I hear noticeable bass and I don't use the adapter.
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xLoud is just for the speakers.

As I said I am having verizon cdma version. And I read in a review that verizon phone comes with a 3.5 mm adapter to use with non-sony ericsson phones. Otherwise the sound does not come properly.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-PLAY-for-Verizon-Unboxing_id19132
In bluetooth headset the sound is coming fine.
I am confused.
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Any headphones with a mix don't work for me unless I use adapter and all headphone I've tried without mid work on r800i
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ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
Any headphones with a mix don't work for me unless I use adapter and all headphone I've tried without mid work on r800i
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But mine is not working on non mic headphones as well.
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About Headphones

sony ericson has a very unlikely earphones, u cant use mic-enabled headphones brands other than the original
but, awhile ago, i was going home, headphones on (without mic) and then my mom called, i answered it, and aint notice that i put the phone back in my pocket, but guess what, i can answer the call, without the mic...
have u ever tried this? or its just me? now i tried to record my voice, earphones on without mic then i put my phone as far as it can get and it records, pretty distorted but, it can!
Xperia Pro
Xperia Ultimate HD 3.0.2
im using SoundMagic ES18 earphones

AW: About Headphones
RadarZgin said:
sony ericson has a very unlikely earphones, u cant use mic-enabled headphones brands other than the original
but, awhile ago, i was going home, headphones on (without mic) and then my mom called, i answered it, and aint notice that i put the phone back in my pocket, but guess what, i can answer the call, without the mic...
have u ever tried this? or its just me? now i tried to record my voice, earphones on without mic then i put my phone as far as it can get and it records, pretty distorted but, it can!
Xperia Pro
Xperia Ultimate HD 3.0.2
im using SoundMagic ES18 earphones
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Your phone has a mic,too
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Kayserili38 said:
Your phone has a mic,too
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i knew it has, that's why when im trying to record, i put it far as it can get, said somthing repeatly in really low voice, well, i cant confirm, could u try?

i try to use earhone of my Arc S in my mp3 player and don't work XD.....it's a very strange!

dott.cunchelli said:
i try to use earhone of my Arc S in my mp3 player and don't work XD.....it's a very strange!
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you must hold the call button in your headset. Pretty annoying, but works, even on new sony devices, htc, blackberry... (iPhone auto-detect which headset type automatically, magic!)

OMTP vs CTIA headsets
Hey there,
just to avoid confusion... see my comment over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39623224&postcount=10937
Xperia 2011 devices follow the OMTP standard.
Use headset for OMTP accordingly.
While Xperia 2012 will follow the CTIA from now on.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/02/27/2012-xperia-range-uses-different-3-5mm-headset-standard/
Cheers,
scholbert