I currently have a HTC Incredible 2, and my contract is almost up, and so I was thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.
Anyways have some questions about it.
1) Since the Verizon version is currently only running 4.0.2 and not the latest version, I was wondering if the unlocked version official 4.0.4 ROM will work on the Verizon one? If not would it be easy for a developer to just port the official ROM to it, so it will the Verizon Nexus will run exactly as it should(the unlocked Nexus) without bugs?
2) Does ICS have a T9 dialer built in? With my HTC Incredible 2 I can just dial someone I want by typing in the first letters of there names with the dialer.
3) Will we except to get a delay just like the Nexus S 4G had, for when we get Jellybean(when the next Nexus comes out). And will it run slow just like since Nexus S runs ICS pretty horribly right now.
1. i believe verizon does have 4.0.4 updates out, if not you can flash the official update manually.
2. yes it has T9 dialer included.
3. We should be the one of the first phones to get Jellybean.
So if it does have the 4.0.4 updates out, then why do people still complain that it doesn't?
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I currently have a HTC Incredible 2, and my contract is almost up, and so I was thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.
Anyways have some questions about it.
1) Since the Verizon version is currently only running 4.0.2 and not the latest version, I was wondering if the unlocked version official 4.0.4 ROM will work on the Verizon one? If not would it be easy for a developer to just port the official ROM to it, so it will the Verizon Nexus will run exactly as it should(the unlocked Nexus) without bugs?
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No, ROMS are not compatible from CDMA to GSM versions and vice versa. It will severely mess up your device.
There are leaked 4.0.4 builds for the CDMA model, but again they're not official, just leaks. That's why people are complaining.
2) Does ICS have a T9 dialer built in? With my HTC Incredible 2 I can just dial someone I want by typing in the first letters of there names with the dialer.
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There are 3rd party replacement dialers. The stock dialer doesn't do this, and is a highly requested feature from Sense (which you have).
3) Will we except to get a delay just like the Nexus S 4G had, for when we get Jellybean(when the next Nexus comes out). And will it run slow just like since Nexus S runs ICS pretty horribly right now.
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Well the current situation shows that the CDMA model will get updates a bit slower than the GSM model. This is just going to happen since Verizon has to do their own testing and add their own network stack to what Google approves and moves out. It won't be a HUGE delay, but it'll be there. Think of it this way: Google isn't going to hold back a GSM update if the CDMA one isn't ready to go. When one's done, they'll release it.
Now remember, CDMA and GSM models don't need the same fixes/changes. As we noted above, the ROMs are not compatible. They are different devices when it comes to network connections (obviously). Fixes for one are not fixes for the other. Just because one gets 4.0.4 doesn't mean the other will. It may get 4.0.5 or .6, then GSM will get 4.1 and CDMA will get 4.1.1, etc...
As far as Jellybean goes, who knows? No one knows what the requirements will be or how long it'll take to get onto the GNex. It'll be slower, no doubt, but one of the reasons ICS is "slow" on the Nexus S is that Gingerbread to ICS was a HUGE jump. We don't know how big that jump will be to Jellybean.
About the leaks would you say they run just as well as the official 4.0.4 that is out on the unlocked Galaxy Nexus phones?
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About the leaks would you say they run just as well as the official 4.0.4 that is out on the unlocked Galaxy Nexus phones?
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I dunno I don't have a Verizon device (so glad for many reasons) so you'd have to ask them. It is a leak and not official, and it was leaked quite a bit ago, so its far from prime time ready.
Some other stuff I wanted to ask are the 4.0.4 ROMs for this device stable just like the official ROM is? Like AOKP or CyanongeMod 9 will they run stable on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus so we can get 4.0.4?
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Some other stuff I wanted to ask are the 4.0.4 ROMs for this device stable just like the official ROM is? Like AOKP or CyanongeMod 9 will they run stable on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus so we can get 4.0.4?
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It will never be as stable as stock 4.0.4 when it OTAs. As I said they're integrating a leaked build and also commits from the GSM 4.0.4 update. Its a Frankenstein type of deal. There will undoubtedly be bugs.
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It will never be as stable as stock 4.0.4 when it OTAs. As I said they're integrating a leaked build and also commits from the GSM 4.0.4 update. Its a Frankenstein type of deal. There will undoubtedly be bugs.
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Well the main reason I want a Galaxy Nexus for is to not even put in custom ROMS. Cause sorry to say but lots of times they are just really buggy and non stable compared to the OTA updates. They could be better such as having a newer version of Android in it but also buggy as well. I just want something that works, and that's why I decided to get the Nexus.
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Well the main reason I want a Galaxy Nexus for is to not even put in custom ROMS. Cause sorry to say but lots of times they are just really buggy and non stable compared to the OTA updates. They could be better such as having a newer version of Android in it but also buggy as well. I just want something that works, and that's why I decided to get the Nexus.
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Yeah but custom roms on a nexus are a little different than custom roms on other devices cause the full code is available. Not true with other devices. Nothing is hidden so no hacks are needed to get things to work. Custom roms can be coded as good as stock rom if the devs want.
Did some research and found out that Verizon controls the Galaxy Nexus updates and not Google. But why does Apple control the Verizon's iPhone updates, and not Verizon? Couldn't Google do the same?
Because Verizon bends over for Apple.
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Did some research and found out that Verizon controls the Galaxy Nexus updates and not Google. But why does Apple control the Verizon's iPhone updates, and not Verizon? Couldn't Google do the same?
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You would think so. But Google just bent over to get Verizon to play ball. Corp bull**** at its finest. Apple just has the balls to say my way or go screw yourself. Sigh...
Would you say that it would be a smart choice to get the Galaxy Nexus in August? Because I am either going to get that phone, or maybe I should wait to see what the iPhone 5 is?
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Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
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I don't think the GNex will have developers that will make ROMs based on older versions of Android... I mean why would they? I feel like the dev community of the Galaxy Nexus will be bigger than the Rezound's. This is a Nexus device and Google has amazing support for their Nexus phones. I doubt the Nexus will have a Sense ROM...
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
Check out my post here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12696-ro...rnel-12262011/page__view__findpost__p__334056
Stick with what you have, this is the best phone for flashing roms. This will have the best support considering the support it has already.
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I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry, so I want the focus in this thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
I honestly feel like the Galaxy Nexus will have more developers because it's a Google phone. It's practically made for developers so I say just stick with this phone. It has the direct support from Google and there is no middle man between software and hardware.
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I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry. I want the focus if thus thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
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Someone is trying to port touchwiz to the Nexus for God knows why.. I doubt we will ever have sense but I don't see the reasoning you have offered, OP. Saying that you always have sense to go back to to me sounds like you'll always be able to go back to stock sense if an ICS rom doesn't workout or something along those lines.. I know having sense means more options, but anything 2.3 will always be inferior to 4.0 in my eyes.
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Not sure why you'd strive to flash 2.3 Sense ROMs on any phone if something newer was available.
You do realize that once HTC starts releasing Sense ICS ROMs, the devs will stop working on the 2.3 ROMs, right?
Just remember, development for a Nexus will always be solid.
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There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
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I'm on axi0m 2.1 right now... its awesome with tons of options.
there are tons of roms out there for the nexus already, but they're all basically the same. Yes, AOSP vs CM9 has its differences, but they're different hues of the same color. I want colors, dammit! and I'm sure it'll get there...
I guess I'm just worried that it'll always be ICS with some slight twists, instead of 2.3 AOSP vs cm7 vs miui vs sense vs ice, etc. I like the idea of having all of those options
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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I believe Vicious is working on MIUI for the GNex.
even though the Rezound realistically is the only competition for the Nexus, there:s just the whole "S-OFF" issue. last i heard, they're still trying to acheive that thus no roms yet.
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Remember that the Galaxy Nexus (specifically the VZW version) hasn't exactly been out long enough for there to be 100's of ROMs. Not to mention that it's the first and only ICS device right now.
ALL Recent HTC Phones now are unlockable courtsey of HTC themselves
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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They still need s off to be able to fully do everything, all that's doing right now is unlocking part of boot loader but from what I hear they still can't flash custom recoverys. Anyhow I love my G Nex and I came from a Rezound I don't even think about going back at all.
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If Sense means that much to you, maybe you should go with the Rezound (plus it has an amazing screen). Just remember that you won't have access to an optimal ICS build for a while. Sense is cool and all, but ICS is a huge step forward for the android OS.
Plus, the GN will be first in line for all software updates, which will keep its dev community on the bleeding edge. Also, as others have pointed out, dev support will be much stronger (and probably longer lasting) for the Galaxy Nexus.
The Nexus is a dev device... doesn't get more from friendly than this.
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Going from ICS 4.x back to anything 2.3.x is like wiping before you poop....pointless!
Nexus has several advantages.
1) bigger screen, hopefully devs will be able to utilize the full screen for all apps
2) virtual keys
therefore even with both having ICS, it won't be exactly the same. (rest of the hardware is debatable as both have pluses and minus - like screen tech/sd card/etc)
Besides, nexus is likely far more popular so the number of devs attracted to this device will likely be much higher.
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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Dude.. the Rezound's bootloader has been unlocked, even on Verizon. They're S-ON but with an unlocked bootloader.
Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.
saman0suke1 said:
Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.
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Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.
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Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.
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So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!
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So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!
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No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!
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That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!
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But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Do you know if this Google Play S4 is as "open" as the Nexus in which an Ubuntu version can be installed without major problems? thanks!
As always, XDA is up to some good stuff with a new release of Android now available. Some developers are finding what appears to be updated binaries for the GPU that’s inside the Galaxy Nexus. KitKat was announced last week, and surprisingly, Google decided to drop support for the Galaxy Nexus. It’s surprising because KitKat can run on devices with 256MB of RAM, which the Galaxy Nexus has a full gigabyte of RAM available. We’ve already seen numerous custom ROMs flowing out for KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus. And it’s not just for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but also the Verizon (Toro) and Sprint (Toroplus) versions.
It appears that Texas Instruments have updated the GPU binaries for the Galaxy Nexus. Now, Google may not have known that TI was going to update it or Google may not have told TI that they had given up on the two-year old device. But either way, developers are hard at work building an updated kernel that might help solve some of the graphical issues with KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you’re one of those many people out there still rocking the Galaxy Nexus, and not wanting to give it up just yet. It looks like you might get Christmas a bit early. As the new GPU binaries should definitely help out the Galaxy Nexus. Although, if you’ve held onto it this long, you’re probably due for an upgrade, since the device was released in November 2011. Hopefully this will help people get a long a bit more until the device finally chokes.
This is another reason why we love the developer community around Android. You won’t find a developer community like this behind the iPhone or anything iOS related. Back before I started here at AH, I had a couple of devices in which the manufacturer had given up on the device, but developers had continued to support it for years. Which was quite nice.
Is it real? It would be a big deal !
Do any ROM developers confirm it yet?
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Is it real?
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I sure hope its real!
Haven't heard much lately on this just what hashcode said and he didn't sound too promising. One ROM developer I seen tried it but was beyond his skills
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Nothing is impossible ...
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I'm still very much active on this , its true its beyond my skill but that's how I learn . I'm hands on all the way , my nexus stays with the battery cover off 50% of the time lol , so don't fret , there might be hope yet .......
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Will they solve glitches totaly?
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Will they solve glitches totaly?
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No one knows that
I would like to thank everyone that is working to make this happen!
this is outdated news
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...possibly-aid-galaxy-nexus-kitkat-development/
please read the hashcode's reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47160722&postcount=309
new drivers are for Jellybean and not for KitKat
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I would prefer updated Jellybean with updated drivers and with no WiFi/GPS/connectivity issues... hope Google will release a more stable Jellybean
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Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I was thinking same thing.
Even of they ARE only good for4.2/4.3 improvements, I'd love to see them incorporated
I'm really looking forward to KITKAT..
Nobody knows when or even if KitKat will be released for this tablet. Samsung does not provide timelines, the only way we know is through leaks. There haven't been any to my knowledge.
I doubt we will get it since we didn't get 4.3. Last time I buy a Samsung tablet
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Samsung already forgot this machine.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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There are many reasons why HTC is failing, but if this is even a reason, it's an insignificant one. Samsung has never been truly up to date on updates, yet they are second only to Apple in the amount of high-end devices sold. Most people, myself included don't really care whether we are on the latest version. We just care that our devices perform well and do what we need them to do. I only complain if an update screws something up.
And lets be honest here: you are running the latest version of all of the Google Apps. It's not like you are stuck on Gingerbread and being on Jelly Bean does not limit you in any way. KitKat will not boost your battery life, will likely not make your device faster, and does not add any significant features that would make a difference in your usage of the device. So what's the real issue? Because it's not that you are unhappy with your tablet.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I fully understand your concern. I have the Wifi-only tab and am on 4.2. I did not experience your issues with 4.1 but I do know that others have. The thing is, problems have to get fixed, and it's a shame that you are still dealing with them. I don't know if it's AT&T or Samsung in your case that's at fault though. My point was more to the effect that I don't care for software updates just for the sake of having a slight bump in version number.
esoh said:
I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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Agreed. I am on the At&t Note 8.0 variant also and I too have freezes and lag. With that being said I know that At&t and Samsung don't have the best business relationship dye At&t loyalty to Apple. So an update may or may not come. If it does let's hope that At&t don't block or rip it up like they do with all Samsung updates
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I got wifi only and I get freezes. The way to unfreeze is to turn the orientation of the note to landscape from horizontal and vice versa. I really wish for an update to fix that. And Yes htc has tons of problems but I believe the slow ass updates were the biggest driver of their customers (at least those who root their devices) to Samsung. Those people are also quite influential with their peers on recommendations
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So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.
jms_209 said:
So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.
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Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.
Beauenheim said:
Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.
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I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.
jms_209 said:
I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.
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Stick with whatever's in your variant's forum. If you've done it before, then you shouldn't have a problem finding a right zip. No ROM is the best. I'd personally flash a 4.4.2 AOSP ROM.