What do you guys think? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I am using a t989 now, after asurion replaced my galaxy nexus for it. I am wondering if anyone else here came from a galaxy nexus and now has this phone. If so, do you feel slighted like I do? There are no solid ICS roms for this yet and it is annoying going backward instead of advancing. Thoughts?

Well you lost the better screen, ics situation is only temporary (and i wouldn't exactly call the ucld2 based roms unstable), and you gained a better camera. Battery situation is about the same, you could even gain some life by using verizon galaxy nexus extended battery.

icenight89 said:
Well you lost the better screen, ics situation is only temporary (and i wouldn't exactly call the ucld2 based roms unstable), and you gained a better camera. Battery situation is about the same, you could even gain some life by using verizon galaxy nexus extended battery.
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The camera may be a higher megapixel, but i would not say it is better. I loved the panoramic pics and the 0 shutter lag, I could literally take 30 pics in like 10-12 seconds.

Michigan Jason said:
The camera may be a higher megapixel, but i would not say it is better. I loved the panoramic pics and the 0 shutter lag, I could literally take 30 pics in like 10-12 seconds.
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I have the skyrocket, and i have little to no shutter lag, can't comment on the t989. However, have you tested the t989 or skyrocket with new ics leak? The camera is SIGNIFICANTLY faster, on gb is was slow, i'll give you that. The references you are making though are software related. I guarantee once we get OTA ICS i'll be laughing at you

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I have the skyrocket, and i have little to no shutter lag, can't comment on the t989. However, have you tested the t989 or skyrocket with new ics leak? The camera is SIGNIFICANTLY faster, on gb is was slow, i'll give you that. The references you are making though are software related. I guarantee once we get OTA ICS i'll be laughing at you
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Laughing for what? I have the t989 and want it to be the better phone lol. Just as you say though, we need ota and once that comes, more roms will be available. Not just ports. I will be very happy then as well.

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Galaxy Nexus Camera Speed

One of my main reasons for having the GN (I prefer a keyboard phone) is the responsiveness of the camera. My GN's camera has zero shutter lag running the stock rom rooted with faux123's kernel. When I run custom roms the camera picture taking is slower.
To be clear, the camera is NOT SLOW ON A CUSTOM ROM. It is simply not immediate in the way that it is on stock. Thus far, I have run MCR, Liquid Smooth and CM9 Nightlies. None of them had the camera speed of stock. I may be doing something wrong though. Thought I'd ask before simply sticking with stock rooted.
I'd like to have quick access to settings and other features that a custom rom offers but I absolutely need the camera to be instantaneous as it is on stock.
Any advice?
TIA
It was something they broke on 4.0.3 and fixed in 4.0.4 so try a newer ROM running 4.0.4
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Thanks for a fast reply on that. Will give that a go.
Edit: Tried out Liquid and it is really so much slower than stock camera. It focuses for a full one to two seconds before the shutter activates and that kinda delay won't work for me. I'll try some other 4.0.4 roms and see if they do any better this go round. If not, back to stock 4.0.2 until they figure out this data drop bug then stock 4.0.4. I gotta have the instant shutter.
Well, tried several more roms and they all have the focus lag. So I'm back to stock. It's weird to me. Seems that they would at least be the same. Wouldn't necessarily expect a custom rom to be faster in that dept but slower? No matter. Stock android on a Nexus is satisfying enough. I need the instant camera. Thanks again.
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Well, tried several more roms and they all have the focus lag. So I'm back to stock. It's weird to me. Seems that they would at least be the same. Wouldn't necessarily expect a custom rom to be faster in that dept but slower? No matter. Stock android on a Nexus is satisfying enough. I need the instant camera. Thanks again.
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Well its the difference between AOSP and the OTA. They are very similar, but still different. That's a perfect example, but 4.0.4 was supposed to improve the shutter speed and make it focus faster.
AOKP ftw. I have the same qualms and AOKP has always been incredibly quick with the camera. I'm running MIUI rom right now and it does take that extra fraction of a second or whatever to focus but I deal I was running AOKP M4 and Franco's M2 (and later his nightlies - don't remember if any were better than the other) and it would capture so quickly that I had to double check my little previous preview window to see if it snapped.
I think on all 4.04 the camera is slower because it allows the camera to focus and take a better pic while before it wouldn't focus if you didn't click manually and would take pic right away. Sometimes this would result in worse quality and I believe that's why they changed it in 4.04.
Could be wrong though..
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Typically I find the first pic is slower while it focuses but sequential shots are instant.
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AOKP is just as slow. I'm looking at a fresh install of AOKP right now. It's the touch to focus feature all the custom roms have. Makes the camera so slow focusing (and again, when I say so slow, I mean slower than stock which is instant). Stock is the only option I guess. Unless, that is, one of the roms has the option to disable touch to focus. Is there one?
As for what player911 is saying, this is true. The first pic is slower focusing and sequential pics are faster. IF you basically don't move the camera. If you recompose the shot, move around, the camera will do the focusing dance all over again. I have a 20 month old. I need the first shot. AND I'll be moving around, lol. The custom roms just don't cut it in this regard. I've never had a phone where the stock software was decent enough to the point that I'd even consider not going custom but the GN running Android without Touchwiz/Sense/Blur is just awesome and I can definitely live with it. Plus I have my instant camera!!
Back to stock I go.
Thanks folks.
This sounds ridiculous to me. Yes, it does take 1-2 seconds for the first shot to focus, but then all sequential shots are instant. That is the point. So you want to have really blurry photos all the time and have it never focus, even though you're getting an instant first shot? That doesn't make sense to me.
Actually, the camera focusing is something I would like. Sure, the instantaneous thing is nice, but I'd rather a clear picture. Maybe a custom rom could offer the option to switch between the different ways the camera operates (like one option focusing before the first shot the other like it is before .4)?
OP, once on stock 4.0.4, you will see the camera actually focuses.... What you are describing is the behaviour on stock 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 roms
Point camera at subject, allow it to focus on its own, take picture. Just as fast as the 4.0.2 camera if not faster
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4.0.4 the camera is much better. First shot takes half a second or less to focus, and most of the shots after that are instant if you take them quickly enough.
The quality of the pics is much better now as well.
On 4.0.2 all the pics came out blurry or double vision. Now they are sharp and clear.
The first shot is only blurry if you can't hold the camera steady. I can.
As for 4.0.4 camera taking less than a second to focus, it just isn't true in my experience. I used half a dozen 4.0.4 rims last night to be sure. Why would I want to be rooted and on stock rom if this wasn't truly the case???? Who would want that?
Think about it....
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anton2009 said:
This sounds ridiculous to me. Yes, it does take 1-2 seconds for the first shot to focus, but then all sequential shots are instant. That is the point. So you want to have really blurry photos all the time and have it never focus, even though you're getting an instant first shot? That doesn't make sense to me.
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Thank you for this.
_atlien_ said:
The first shot is only blurry if you can't hold the camera steady. I can.
As for 4.0.4 camera taking less than a second to focus, it just isn't true in my experience. I used half a dozen 4.0.4 rims last night to be sure. Why would I want to be rooted and on stock rom if this wasn't truly the case???? Who would want that?
Think about it....
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So because it is not true for you, it must be false for everyone else?
Nice logic....
You need optimal light conditions for quick focusing. I focus in a second or less, and each shot after that is instant.
adrynalyne said:
So because it is not true for you, it must be false for everyone else?
Nice logic....
You need optimal light conditions for quick focusing. I focus in a second or less, and each shot after that is instant.
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I asked for help finding the fastest camera because I want to catch photos of my son. People gave suggestions, I tried them and they weren't faster FOR ME. I said and clicked thanks for the suggestions. What's the problem here? You've got too much time on your hands. Leave me alone if you can't be helpful.
Focusing is almost instant on 4.0.4. Way better than previous versions of ICS for me.
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_atlien_ said:
I asked for help finding the fastest camera because I want to catch photos of my son. People gave suggestions, I tried them and they weren't faster FOR ME. I said and clicked thanks for the suggestions. What's the problem here? You've got too much time on your hands. Leave me alone if you can't be helpful.
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I gave suggestions. Sorry if they don't meet your approval.

Questions about the GS2.. Amaze user here

Well I have an HTC Amaze for about 2 months now.
I recently upgraded to ICS and it completely ruined my wifi calling experience because everytime I am on a call, there is a delay in the voice, that gets worse as time goes on. Not to mention everyone says I sound alot lower on wifi calling compared to normal use. I rely on wifi calling in my place cuz I get no signal here
I called T-Mobile and there are no Amaze to send me, so they sent me a GS2 instead. I am getting it on Monday. In reality, I can just keep the Amaze if I hate the GS2, send back the GS2 and deal with the wifi issue, but whats wrong with trying out the GS2 for 7 days right? =]
Anyways, What are the major differences between the 2 of these phones. Mainly my big issue is wifi calling and am curious how good, or not good, it is on the gs2.
I use my camera alot and I hear the Amaze takes the cake on this comparison, but I figured you guys would know better since you have a gs2. How is the photo quality?
Feel free to add more differences if you like. Sorry if its been asked before.
Thanks alot!
BTW I always run stock, so no downgrade to gingerbreads please =] lol
I feel that the SGS2 camera is excellent. You can take a picture and then zoom in and the picture will still be clear.
Here is an article showing the difference between the 2 phones.
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-amaze-4g-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-t-mobile-27110/
Enjoy!
Hope I helped you out! If I did don't forget to hit the THANKS.
Oh your welcome. Believe me I have read all those articles. Just trying to get first hand accounts from owners on here
Keep the GS2. Much better phone IMO. Can't find anything wrong with it. Even stock this phone is very smooth and stable. Just a rock solid, good looking phone.
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The ICS roms we have for the SGS2 also have the wifi calling delay. Works perfect on GB.
Hopefully the official ICS update doesnt have the problem
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This is a great phone, had a for about 4 months. I was recently offered a straight trade for Amaze so I was considering that as well, but decided I needed compensation for my SGS2 as well, so it didn't go down. Try to extend your time to like 9 days when the ICS update drops so you can see if ICS will effect wifi-calling?
I've had the htc mogul, evo and evo3d. I left sprint for tmobile and got the s2, I havent had any complaints and dont miss htc at all. I will say this though the s2 camera is ok not great, no zoom and not fast. I find it strange that several years ago my original palm pre would snap pics as fast as you could press it, and here we are several years later with sorry cameras still, except for the amaze. I would raise hell about having an htc and try to drag a htc one out of them, i mean htc is what you bought.
Might be a dumb question but is there not an auto shot mode on the s2 camera.
Im messing around with it and I dont wanna have to choose what kind of mode to put it in every night.. as in night mode etc etc.
Is there an option for it to just do it itself.
Oh and sorry, is there a way to make the photos widescreen when you take pix? When I view them on my comp, there all square.
Its about equal.
After a few months,with both,phones,I finally (yesterday) have decided gs2 is the better device.
Its much more responsive,battery lasts longer(stock/rooted).The camera is best on amaze,but not by much.
gs3 drops soon for $199.
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ITALIANNYC said:
Might be a dumb question but is there not an auto shot mode on the s2 camera.
Im messing around with it and I dont wanna have to choose what kind of mode to put it in every night.. as in night mode etc etc.
Is there an option for it to just do it itself.
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There is Auto Iso, and Auto Focus... and you can leave the effects and scene selections on None.
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ITALIANNYC said:
Oh and sorry, is there a way to make the photos widescreen when you take pix? When I view them on my comp, there all square.
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Choose 6.5 meg resolution which should be widescreen, at least it is on DarksideBeta07. On stock, I think it is similar but I don't run stock to check.
Lastly, I have a Sensation and GS2; HTC Camera's are quicker for shots; but picture quality are both very good.
Having both phones. Was an extensive amaze user. Amaze's camera is amazing especially their night scene pictures compared to the gs2. Sorry but our camera sucks at night lol. meaning, pictures taking without flash. However daytime pictures, amaze has a slight lead especially macro pictures.
Battery is definitely better you probably notice already. Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity is a bit stronger and connects quicker. That was the first thing i notice about the two. Had them side by side.
Honestly i use to like the amaze's resolution because games had more details (compared side by side) but i hate it's viewing angle.
In the end, i would go with the gs2, it's snappier, better connectivity, longer battery life, and that's most of the day to day stuff you would notice. although the amaze's is by far the best. It's better than the iPhone 4s's too if you're wondering. haven't played with the new one s/x so no input there.. Probably because i see no need to change phones. I usually change every couple months. Been rocking this phone for 7 months love it
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Teo032 said:
Having both phones. Was an extensive amaze user. Amaze's camera is amazing especially their night scene pictures compared to the gs2. Sorry but our camera sucks at night lol. meaning, pictures taking without flash. However daytime pictures, amaze has a slight lead especially macro pictures.
Battery is definitely better you probably notice already. Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity is a bit stronger and connects quicker. That was the first thing i notice about the two. Had them side by side.
Honestly i use to like the amaze's resolution because games had more details (compared side by side) but i hate it's viewing angle.
In the end, i would go with the gs2, it's snappier, better connectivity, longer battery life, and that's most of the day to day stuff you would notice. although the amaze's is by far the best. It's better than the iPhone 4s's too if you're wondering. haven't played with the new one s/x so no input there.. Probably because i see no need to change phones. I usually change every couple months. Been rocking this phone for 7 months love it
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I think the amaze has a louder speaker,but sgs2 is just a bit snappier.
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Teo032 said:
Having both phones. Was an extensive amaze user. Amaze's camera is amazing especially their night scene pictures compared to the gs2. Sorry but our camera sucks at night lol. meaning, pictures taking without flash. However daytime pictures, amaze has a slight lead especially macro pictures.
Battery is definitely better you probably notice already. Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity is a bit stronger and connects quicker. That was the first thing i notice about the two. Had them side by side.
Honestly i use to like the amaze's resolution because games had more details (compared side by side) but i hate it's viewing angle.
In the end, i would go with the gs2, it's snappier, better connectivity, longer battery life, and that's most of the day to day stuff you would notice. although the amaze's is by far the best. It's better than the iPhone 4s's too if you're wondering. haven't played with the new one s/x so no input there.. Probably because i see no need to change phones. I usually change every couple months. Been rocking this phone for 7 months love it
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I noticed that the " little " things on this phone are just better then the Amaze. Like the little bugs and things you normally wouldnt notice. I also feel its better to hold this phone and type with. I also see myself not worrying so much about damaging the phone. Its funny cuz you would think that with the amaze and its better build quality that you wouldnt be worried, but I always am very careful with it, esp when putting it down. Its weird. Probably cuz its heavier.
For me, the screen thing doesnt really bother me that much. What really blew me away was how loud the music player is with my good headphones in. I always hated that about the amaze. I always wanted it louder and it never would go louder. This one is better then an ipod.
I am a big camera user so thats probably why I might send this one back. If this phone had the same quality cam as the amaze, I would DEFF keep it.
I also like the vibration on this phone more. I also have realized that I like thin and light phones alot more then hefty ones.
Now my huge nitpicks with the gs2 is the compression of photos on MMS, and of course the camera. Those 2 really do annoy the hell out of me.
My ONLY concern would be this.. I love this phone because the wifi calling is PERFECT. Its barely usable with the Amaze after the ICS update. Im just worried that the same thing is going to happen with the GS2 when you guys get the update. I would hate for me to keep this phone, just for a few days later for the update to put me in the same situation with the GS2 as with my amaze. If that was the case, id keep the amaze.
I already got an update from tmobile on this phone but have refused to download it, although I am sure its going to do it automatically sooner or later.
Anyway I am really enjoying the experience with the phone and have until Sat to make up my mind.
I was going to try and root my amaze and see if something can fix my wifi calling but the process is a lil more difficult then I thought.
Why the GS2 is better
In my opinion the GS2 is far more advanced than the amaze. It has a larger screen, faster cpu and better overall design. If you are worried about wifi calling and want to root, there are some roms on here that have ics which have good wifi calling, although some dont.

Phonedog review of ICS on GS2

Lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKHaoQ-QfrQ&list=FLLflYUVRnJN5YGTjFEzdaNA&feature=mh_lolz
The question I have is, how does the stock ICS release rate in terms of battery life and performance as compared to TDJ's and Whitehawk's releases? If its not any faster or runs longer, why bother until TDJ/WH release tweaked versions?
DK
Aarons a pretty cool dude lol battery life on the new tmo release didn't cut it for me but others reported good bat life. Give it a go and see how it flows for ya.
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When I had my SII, ICS was cool and all but the performance and battery life just weren't as good as the GB builds. I always ended up going back to GB
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should probably wait until TDJ releases the new version with his own kernel.
I am quite underwhelmed with the performance. Speed, smoothness, battery life, all better with GB. Not sure what they were thinking in this upgrade. Why send it something that makes the phones perform worse with no noticeable added features. Wasn't this supposed to be the upgrade to really show off the dual core processors?
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You people serious? The update literally not even been out 48 hours and you're all complaining about battery and performance? For one, that's not enough time to judge battery, two, did you really think a stock build would be some epic thing? Any one with any sense was excited for what it meant for custom ROMs.
FWIW, I ran stock until last night. That was when TDJ posted his first stock but tweaked and debloated ICS ROM from all things official. That said, the battery did just fine on tmo stock for the whole 16 or so hours that it ran on a single charge. Yeah, no tweaks, nothing crazy going on, just stock as it was installed through Kies.
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You people serious? The update literally not even been out 48 hours and you're all complaining about battery and performance? For one, that's not enough time to judge battery, two, did you really think a stock build would be some epic thing? Any one with any sense was excited for what it meant for custom ROMs.
FWIW, I ran stock until last night. That was when TDJ posted his first stock but tweaked and debloated ICS ROM from all things official. That said, the battery did just fine on tmo stock for the whole 16 or so hours that it ran on a single charge. Yeah, no tweaks, nothing crazy going on, just stock as it was installed through Kies.
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Its not just the performance that is the problem. Its the fact that they have the keys to making this phone great and are paid well to do so and our amazing unpaid devs have to clean up the mess that the tmo devs left behind. I mean srsly? Releasing a stock rom with shutdown and reboot hang? WORSE battery life? i had to flash a camera fix to make it EVEN WORK. PERIOD. Idk if they even fixed wifi calling but im leaning toward no. Bottom line its pretty lackluster and our devs here are our saving grace.
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I don't understand the people on this forum sometimes, you people make my head hurt.
I wholeheartedly agree. Devs spend their time fixing more than enhancing. To anyone complaining about people complaining.
NOT EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE YOU DO.
Me being one of those people. Ucle2 runs much better, smoother with 20+ hours of bat life with 3+ hours of screen on time. With the tmo release I got lag, screen glitches and battery life not even half as good as tdjs evo 7.1.
...yet there are people that have absolutely no issues. Understand that the people with no issues are the minority. Not everyone wants to mod their phone. The amount of tmo gs2 owners on this forum are the minority compared to the millions of average users without knowledge of rooting.
...how do you think ics will run on their gb equipped handsets??
Leave the minority alone unless you have helpful info on changing their experience. If not, I and the rest of the ****ed updaters don't want to hear your 2 cents.
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I wholeheartedly agree. Devs spend their time fixing more than enhancing. To anyone complaining about people complaining.
NOT EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE YOU DO.
Me being one of those people. Ucle2 runs much better, smoother with 20+ hours of bat life with 3+ hours of screen on time. With the tmo release I got lag, screen glitches and battery life not even half as good as tdjs evo 7.1.
...yet there are people that have absolutely no issues. Understand that the people with no issues are the minority. Not everyone wants to mod their phone. The amount of tmo gs2 owners on this forum are the minority compared to the millions of average users without knowledge of rooting.
...how do you think ics will run on their gb equipped handsets??
Leave the minority alone unless you have helpful info on changing their experience. If not, I and the rest of the ****ed updaters don't want to hear your 2 cents.
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It's not complaining about the complaining. It's shock at the naivety that a stock ROM would offer anything remotely close to what the GB customs offered let alone what the ICS customs will bring us very soon. I didn't expect anything out of TMO's ICS other than, hopefully, that tasty ICS look. TMO had other plans though so my one dream was shattered.
As for any issues with the TMO stock? I had only one. The wifi calling delay was still present for me. Aside from that, it did everything it should have. I understand as well that every experience is different but, again, the TMO release isn't the climax here. That is still to come.
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It's not complaining about the complaining. It's shock at the naivety that a stock ROM would offer anything remotely close to what the GB customs offered let alone what the ICS customs will bring us very soon. I didn't expect anything out of TMO's ICS other than, hopefully, that tasty ICS look. TMO had other plans though so my one dream was shattered.
As for any issues with the TMO stock? I had only one. The wifi calling delay was still present for me. Aside from that, it did everything it should have. I understand as well that every experience is different but, again, the TMO release isn't the climax here. That is still to come.
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Of course in a month or 2 this phone will surpass anything gingerbread gave us. Can't wait!
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Im happy with the update make sure to do a factory reset a lot issues get resolved like this. It did help to root and removed all tmobile bloat ware. Tmobile really needs stop putting useless apps on their phones
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Diekrupt said:
Lolz
The question I have is, how does the stock ICS release rate in terms of battery life and performance as compared to TDJ's and Whitehawk's releases? If its not any faster or runs longer, why bother until TDJ/WH release tweaked versions?
DK
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My g/f and I both have the t989. Her's is rooted with stock GB, and I was running Juggernaut. There was a profound difference in battery life between the two phones. So far, my battery life with Mr. X's stock/rooted ICS looks to be about the same as Juggernaut. She is running stock ICS now, but it is too soon to say how her battery compares. It should be the same, unless getting rid of the t-mo bloat makes a significant difference. I don't think it will for battery life, though.
About 2 weeks ago something happened with my phone and the Juggernaut install was corrupted. I flashed back to stock GB and I couldn't get a full 24 hours. With Juggernaut I can get about 3 days.
I really hated the t-mo version of ICS with all the bloat, but with it rooted, I used TB to freeze all the bloat away. Much cleaner phone now.
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rfail1988 said:
Its not just the performance that is the problem. Its the fact that they have the keys to making this phone great and are paid well to do so and our amazing unpaid devs have to clean up the mess that the tmo devs left behind. I mean srsly? Releasing a stock rom with shutdown and reboot hang? WORSE battery life? i had to flash a camera fix to make it EVEN WORK. PERIOD. Idk if they even fixed wifi calling but im leaning toward no. Bottom line its pretty lackluster and our devs here are our saving grace.
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You are thinking about this from the perspective of the phone owner and android and enthusiast. Think about it from their business perspective.
1) This is the last OS update for this phone. Their emphasis at this point is probably on the next 'latest and greatest' android phone.
2) They aren't interested in making this phone the 'best' it can be. They are simply aiming for better than adequate (that would be for your regular user grade android phone), they are aiming for above average, but not superlative. If they aimed for (and achieved) superlative, you might not be as interested in buying their next 'latest and greatest' android phone. You know "Hey, no need to upgrade now, because, with this latest update, this phone rocks."
3) Finally, judging by all the bloat, another major goal the company has set for the programmers is to develop built in apps, etc. that tempt customers into paying for additional fee based services, thus adding additional income streams.
I'm just glad that it is so relatively easy to root this phone and create custom roms for it. I'm also very thankful there is a talented community dedicated to that undertaking.

advantage to CM10 vs leaked bell jellybean rom

hi guys as title says, what are the advantages of going to cm10 over say the leaked bell stock jellybean rom? thanks!
Octanee said:
hi guys as title says, what are the advantages of going to cm10 over say the leaked bell stock jellybean rom? thanks!
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No touchwiz. Pure jelly bean.
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No touchwiz. Pure jelly bean.
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and what exactly is touchwiz/ benifits, also could i see longer battery life and perhaps enhanced performance? stuff like that? thanks
You'll probably see a bit smoother performance due to the lack of bloat... but i don't think it'd be anything astronomical. Battery life could possibly be better. The downside is you seem to lose some functionality with the camera. Last i checked, the camera in CM10 doesn't have any of the Burst Shot modes or any of the other modes the TouchWiz camera has, nor do i remember it having that lag-free shutter we all love.
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You'll probably see a bit smoother performance due to the lack of bloat... but i don't think it'd be anything astronomical. Battery life could possibly be better. The downside is you seem to lose some functionality with the camera. Last i checked, the camera in CM10 doesn't have any of the Burst Shot modes or any of the other modes the TouchWiz camera has, nor do i remember it having that lag-free shutter we all love.
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ok, well i think ill stick with what ive got for now, im happy with it so far, got somewhat jellybean lol and it runs alright, and camera is kinda nice since it does take Alright pics,
so right now i suppose i dont really see any actual reasons to root this sucker yet
Yea.... i've tried the CM10 nightlies (thought not for a while now).... i've tried ParanoidAndroid.... i've also tried Task & Ktoonsez AOKP ROM... but i still seem to always come back to Aristodemos. Though now i'm thinking about installing CodeName Android to see what it's like on the S3, since i liked it on my Atrix 4G.
I believe the camera on cm10 now has burst shot. Not as good as stock but its an option. I have tried a few jelly's, cm10..AOKP..The one thing that does ruin it for me is camera. Love the stock camera.
no bloatwares and more customization applied to pure jelly bean rom.
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[Q] Question about TW based ROMs vs AOSP based ROMs.

Hey guys, I read somewhere that Touchwiz based ROMs tend to have better battery life, higher data speeds, and better reception. Is this true? I've been running AOSP ROMs pretty much since the beginning, and can't really find any TW ROMs that sound good. I also dont care about the TW features since they all seem like lazy gimmicks to me. However, if they do have better reception, speeds, and battery life, I might switch.
rizzodg said:
Hey guys, I read somewhere that Touchwiz based ROMs tend to have better battery life, higher data speeds, and better reception. Is this true? I've been running AOSP ROMs pretty much since the beginning, and can't really find any TW ROMs that sound good. I also dont care about the TW features since they all seem like lazy gimmicks to me. However, if they do have better reception, speeds, and battery life, I might switch.
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TW has better bluetooth audio...aaaaaaaand thats about the all advantages i can think of think of.
i get hours more battery life on my AOKP rom than my wife does on her stock s3. identical reception. identical LTE. loads more rom/user options. i dont think i have to point out why millions of s3's are running an aosp-based rom. cheers
xBeerdroiDx said:
TW has better bluetooth audio...aaaaaaaand thats about the all advantages i can think of think of.
i get hours more battery life on my AOKP rom than my wife does on her stock s3. identical reception. identical LTE. loads more rom/user options. i dont think i have to point out why millions of s3's are running an aosp-based rom. cheers
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+1^^^^^
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So its not true that TW based ROMs take better quality pictures than AOSP ROMs?
rizzodg said:
So its not true that TW based ROMs take better quality pictures than AOSP ROMs?
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I believe that picture quality is a subjective metric. Some people prefer the pics from AOSP, some from TW. Other's can't tell the difference. The different frameworks allow for different options. Honestly it is a matter of taste. My best advice is to flash to stock or another TW ROM and take some pictures. Only way you are going to know for sure. Other's experiences may very well be different than your own.
Truly a matter of what ya like, I use task 650 AOKP and could never loose ROM control or the extras I get with AOKP as far as camera, sound and signal being better I see it all about the same, if you can tell a difference you sir are sharper than I. As far as the battery I'm happy, but I've herd of crazy life like 7 days on TW but I don't turn anything off and use my phone a decent amount. Like already stated flash away and test for a few days to see which and report back
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mshanewalker1 said:
Truly a matter of what ya like, I use task 650 AOKP and could never loose ROM control or the extras I get with AOKP as far as camera, sound and signal being better I see it all about the same, if you can tell a difference you sir are sharper than I. As far as the battery I'm happy, but I've herd of crazy life like 7 days on TW but I don't turn anything off and use my phone a decent amount. Like already stated flash away and test for a few days to see which and report back
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The only way anyone is getting 7 days on a single charge is with airplane mode on, all other features off and setting it on top of their fridge for a week...especially with TW
xBeerdroiDx said:
The only way anyone is getting 7 days on a single charge is with airplane mode on, all other features off and setting it on top of their fridge for a week...especially with TW
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I doubt that is true as well. TW has a lot of bloat by design and all of that equals faster battery drain.
Truly a matter of what ya like, I use task 650 AOKP and could never loose ROM control or the extras I get with AOKP as far as camera, sound and signal being better I see it all about the same, if you can tell a difference you sir are sharper than I. As far as the battery I'm happy, but I've herd of crazy life like 7 days on TW but I don't turn anything off and use my phone a decent amount. Like already stated flash away and test for a few days to see which and report back
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cjranucci said:
I believe that picture quality is a subjective metric. Some people prefer the pics from AOSP, some from TW. Other's can't tell the difference. The different frameworks allow for different options. Honestly it is a matter of taste. My best advice is to flash to stock or another TW ROM and take some pictures. Only way you are going to know for sure. Other's experiences may very well be different than your own.
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I'm trying Task650's AOKP and I don't see too much of a downgrade in camera quality, but camcorder recordings are quite choppy. Other than that, I'd take this rom over TW any day.

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