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Just what the title of the thread reads.
I am running damagecontrol 3.2.3 rom with the base kernel but i have noticed that others are running custom kernel..
what is the benefit and is it reversible if i don't like it and want to flash back to the base? Thanks for the help guys.
There are severl different potential benefits such as: higher FPS, lover voltage, high frequency of the CPU, etc. Do a nand back up first. Flash a new kernel, if you don't like it run a nand restore.
I find the custom kernels drastically improve the battery life of the device.
I'm having trouble finding the kernels, even if I search for, say "bfs fps kernel." Is there a thread that links them all, or at least compares them to tell which is for what?
Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.
drmacinyasha said:
Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.
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I've been on the ffolkes kernel for DC for awhile now, and I get 45 fps. Tried the netarchy awhile back and got low fps. Tried the newest one just a minute ago, fps in the 20's. The suck.
effluent said:
I've been on the ffolkes kernel for DC for awhile now, and I get 45 fps. Tried the netarchy awhile back and got low fps. Tried the newest one just a minute ago, fps in the 20's. The suck.
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You're either not using the right kernel, or something is screwed up on your phone. I'm getting 50+ FPS when I put SetCPU on Performance.
Make sure you put SetCPU on Performance and not on-demand or userspace.
Last time I tried netarchy's kernel I don't remember clocks making a difference in FPS much..
If he has 20FPS setting the clock to performance likely won't do crap.
My recc. read the damn thread!
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Last time I tried netarchy's kernel I don't remember clocks making a difference in FPS much..
If he has 20FPS setting the clock to performance likely won't do crap.
My recc. read the damn thread!
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If you're underclocked and undervolted to 128Mhz and SetCPU is preventing it from going up, I'm fairly sure you're not going to get very high FPS.
Im using netarchy-toastmod-3.7.3-kernel and i got over 53fp.It true that help save battery and high cpu. Find here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
just in case wanna a stock kernel 2.6.29 , you can find here: http://www.mediafire.com/?55dhnr5579xil7h
Are you getting 50 fps on an epson or novatec screen?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
SetCPU on Performance, overclocked to 1158Mhz.
Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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If you're underclocked and undervolted to 128Mhz and SetCPU is preventing it from going up, I'm fairly sure you're not going to get very high FPS.
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A bottleneck is not the same thing as stock clocks.
Trix, try looking around. This has been answered about 1000 times.
Quick way, if your brightness control fades it's nova, if not its epson.
drmacinyasha said:
Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.
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10chars.
trixr750 said:
Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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adb shell into your phone, and do a dmesg | grep mddi
trixr750 said:
Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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My vote is for ffolkes undervolted kernel. Performance is good, FPS is good on both epson and novatek, and I have achieved fantastic battery life with it.
trixr750 said:
Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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I have used both ffolkes and netarchy
ffolkes i got better battery life however if you have a nova screen you need to search for and download "Novafreq" app and play with it a little tog et the best results for FPS. My normal FPS on this kernal was 40-43.
Netarchy - YOU DONT use Novafreq (which may be why some of you got such a low FPS on it, you really want to be at its stock which i believe is 380 or you will get horrible fps) With netarchy i get better FPS but slightly less battery saving. my average FPS with netarchy is 49-52FPS
Over all the battery saving was a significant amount or me between the too but it was slightly noticeable. In the end i chose Netarchy since i felt the added FPS was more significant then the slight battery increase.
The other reason i choose Netarchy is it gets updated frequently where ffolkes seems to have stopped at what it is (nothing wrong with that since it was mainly made to fix FPS on Nova screens)
Ive gotten 50-51fps on profiled setup in setcpu. even all the way down to 384. Running Netarchy & OMJ Rom
Now me and 4 of my friends have EVOs and I rooted all of them. Some of this EVOs are hardware verson 003 and one of them is 002. 2 are novatec and 3 are epson. We are all running fresh 3.1.0.2 with netarchy-toastmod-4.1.8 bfs, mine has 4.1.9 BETA, but my one friend is running CM6 RC2 because he loves it. Now all of these EVOs can overclock to 1.27 GHz but when we do it they freeze and crash. My one friend can go up to 1.22 just fine but the rest of us are stuck at 1.19. I want to know why this happens. If our phones cant take that much why have it. What's the point we have 5 EVOs here none can handle it. Im I doing something wrong is the a joke WTF!!
All the phones are different. Most can't oc past 1152 without causing reboots, mine included. Other than ridiculous benchmark numbers, I don't think you'll notice a huge difference in performance.
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dglowe343 said:
All the phones are different. Most can't oc past 1152 without causing reboots, mine included. Other than ridiculous benchmark numbers, I don't think you'll notice a huge difference in performance.
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I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
andre104623 said:
I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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Simple answer, not all chips are made the same. They are made to minimum standards. Your chip is rated to 1 ghz, and thats what the chip company delivered.
Some chips can handle more, but thats just luck.
As far as why do people strive for the high numbers, thats personal preference. Not everyone here cares about 30+ hours of battery life. Some just like the bragging rights.
Unfortunantly, all EVO's are not created equal. You can have the same hardware and version numbers on 2 devices, but one may be able to OC that high, and one may not. This is also why not everyone can run the superbattery kernel from the Baked Snack rom. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
and c'mon, watch the language. There are rules around here, you know?
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and c'mon, watch the language. There are rules around here, you know?
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Sorry, I thought we are all adults one swear now and again wont kill anyone
andre104623 said:
I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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actually, cm snap 7.0 and 7.1 are extremely stable, have great battery life and have excellent benchmarks as well. i dont have a single problem with cm snap kernels and i run at 1228mhz when fully charged.
andre104623 said:
I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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that's not going out of the way... it's making the phone as fast as possible. why do anything if you aren't gonna push the limit? how are you gonna develop if you don't push the limit?
Just wondering if anybody has tried this kernel yet? Found it over on AndroidMobileJunkie.com (Followed a link in somebody's sig here n XDA that said 1.28Ghz so naturally I was curious lol) Anyways, here's the link for the post over on AMJ. http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-22-oct.11/
yea ziggy's kernel. It's been in discussion in both of the Desire rom port threads. 1.28 is very rough on the processor though, and mostly unstable for a lot of people's phones (mine included), even ziggy admits it's a risky business, but he has proven it is possible.
I am so tempted to try this, but I'm afraid to fry my phone. My go big or go home mentality may make me give in. Wish there was someone who posted on the thread link
I ran it. No problems a 1.28 but really didn't use it long. Here's my Quadrant post in the Desire Z port thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8775977&postcount=168
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I'd imagine that clocking the processor that high wouldn't make much difference than say, 1.19GHz.
In fact, in plenty of ROMs I've tried, anything clocking over 1152mhz actually gives me a decrease in my quadrant scores. Not to say its not a stability issue - I'd assume that most Snapdragons actually clock higher than 998mhz, but then are reduced because that's baseline performance, anything less than 998mhz would get kicked.
I've never had a ROM crash, even running at 1.19GHz, but didn't notice any performance gains, plus, unless you just happen to get a chip that is capable of 1.28GHz no problem, it's probably near bottle-neck anyway.
And Quadrant has several variables way outside of clock speed that can pull 1800's, including just your flavor ROM.
Bottom Line: It's not worth frying your phone just for a barely-existent performance gain. If you happen to have a processor that is incapable of stability at 1.28GHz, you might fry out some transistors, then get stuck with something that freezes if you clock it over 700, let alone the 998 stock.
For me personally 1.28 is no improvement over 1.152. In fact, it gives me worse benchmarks.
sorry for repost
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
I tried this kernal and my camera stopped working...
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I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
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Lou hit the nail on the head. I love the .17 kernel. Im using the new guy with great performance, battery life, charging, and neat transitions. its like a new phone.
I'm using this with a vanilla froyo ROM and my battery life is amazing. Haven't noticed any freezing or any program not working.
Wow!
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z
Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
Nevermind...found it!
ziggy471 said:
There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
hajabooja said:
Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
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What AOSP kernel??? I only see one kernel, and it references skyraider, which leads me to believe it is a sense kernel
edit: I am dumb. It is a different thread on the same site as listed above
http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-aosp-23-oct.24/
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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I didn't take it as such, and I agree with you fully. I prefer somewhere between 1.113 and 1.15. That's the reason I included the init script to set the max at 1.113, which I find very stable and fast, hell I'd say 1865 quad with ID's Z port isn't too shabby at 1.13.
I should be able to get 1.28 more stable with playing with the voltages, it's just that takes time, and I wasted too much this morning doing both AOSP INC and Evo kernels, so I'm worn out for awhile on kernels. I still need to fix the Evo for puertoblack, since it appears I left the debug port out, so no adb for it. lol
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Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
dladz said:
Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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the first thing you need to understand is quadrant is ****, it is not an acurate indication of the speed of your device, a few devs have made kernels that trick quadrant into giving it massive scores, but in reality there kernels are not the best that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
http://www.multiupload.com/U2ECLTRT7V
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that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
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Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!
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Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!
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Yeah the new one is based on the latest kernel source, with the 1.75 libs,
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Tbh I use leedroids newest one an its really good, quadrant gets 2500 +
The device is smooth as silk, bit then again it always was.
I didn't know that quadrant was pants, I thought it was a good benchmarking tool.
Confirm that the newest kernel of Lee is the best!but in a few days he prepare a new awesome BFS kernel...
Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
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Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
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Yea it's just the standard version of quadrant, I thought that it would do the job.
Also i don't want to trick it or actually buy an app just so it can give me higher scores, that's not actually helping at all, i'll try the airplane mode to see if that helps, my phone is rapid anyway so it's only for my own satisfaction and to see how high i could get the score to go to.
Running EL29 Odexed Blue Rom with EL26 stock kernal.
Just came from eVo 4G and have no idea if its worth it and if so what setting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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I think viper mad some stuff for the phone. I know he has a rom out for the phone already so maybe his tweaks are there you could always check the dev section.
My phone had freezing issues at anything higher than 1.4ghz, but even then the only real difference I saw was quadrant scores. Games ran the same, in fact I think the UI actually was choppier when OC'ed. Never really looked into it much though.
I don't even know why I tried it in the first place, I never said to myself "gee, this could be faster.." I guess coming from an HTC Hero it was a habit.
this phone does NOT need to be over clocked; it is so much faster than your Evo, that you won't believe it!
Undervolting and under clocking can give you extra battery life; do a search on the Dev thread, and you will learn lots about it..