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Has anyone actually found a use for 'Streaming Media' app?

So, does anyone use it? i haven't been able to find any rtsp:// feeds...

You can stream media from your PC to your pda using VLC media player.

but what does the app called 'Streaming Media' do?

Registerme said:
You can stream media from your PC to your pda using VLC media player.
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if u dont mind.. can u pls... tell us how to stream video from pc (vlc ) to the PDA???
steps will be gr8...

A typical use of HTC Streaming Media Player would be: e.g. you're browsing through www.youtube.com (or redirected to m.youtube.com) with PIE. When you click on any video image icon there, PIE will automatically start SMP, and you will be able to watch the selected video file on its window, without the need to download it to your mobile device. You could watch it fullscreen too.
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos

casouzaj said:
A typical use of HTC Streaming Media Player would be: e.g. you're browsing through www.youtube.com (or redirected to m.youtube.com) with PIE. When you click on any video image icon there, PIE will automatically start SMP, and you will be able to watch the selected video file on its window, without the need to download it to your mobile device. You could watch it fullscreen too.
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos
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oh rite cool! thanks very much

I've been to youtube and XMradio and can't get this to work... Is this program supposed to come up automatically? Because, it doesn't...

nmtgman said:
I've been to youtube and XMradio and can't get this to work... Is this program supposed to come up automatically? Because, it doesn't...
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I'm using the Internet Explorer on my WM5 Artemis, and when i go to www.m.youtube.com and click on a video, it just opens in Streaming Media app works well!

is the "m" in the web address important? Cause I have never heard of this type of address.

Streaming
It also works very good on my exec using 3G connection, Youtube I mean, but in full screen mode picture is agly enough of cause. After Stop it comes back slowly.

nmtgman said:
is the "m" in the web address important? Cause I have never heard of this type of address.
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it means ur on the 'Mobile' version of the site. some websites are www.m.address.com, some are www.address.com/m depends on the site, and if it even supports mobiles

rtsp://link
I don't now if this tread is dead, but I will post anyway.
I use the rtsp:// for connecting to live streaming cameras.
I have one at my house that will email me if someone rings the door bell or the alarm goes off.
I can then connect to the camera thru a web browser if i'm at my computer, and talk to them thru the camera. If i'm out and about i can stream to the camera with my htc. I can even here what they are saying if there talking. THe camera i'm using is a VIVOTEK IP7151, http://www.vivotek.com/products/cameras/network_camera_ip7151.html
THere is a link for a live demo. If you connect with your phone the link would be rtsp://60.248.39.146/live.sdp or
rtsp://60.248.39.151/live.sdp or
rtsp://60.248.38.147/live.sdp
Sometimes there on, you might have to connect 2 or 3 times.

I've never managed to get anything from Youtube to work on it. Maybe it's a O2 thing.

kamsden said:
I don't now if this tread is dead, but I will post anyway.
I use the rtsp:// for connecting to live streaming cameras.
I have one at my house that will email me if someone rings the door bell or the alarm goes off.
I can then connect to the camera thru a web browser if i'm at my computer, and talk to them thru the camera. If i'm out and about i can stream to the camera with my htc. I can even here what they are saying if there talking. THe camera i'm using is a VIVOTEK IP7151, http://www.vivotek.com/products/cameras/network_camera_ip7151.html
THere is a link for a live demo. If you connect with your phone the link would be rtsp://60.248.39.146/live.sdp or
rtsp://60.248.39.151/live.sdp or
rtsp://60.248.38.147/live.sdp
Sometimes there on, you might have to connect 2 or 3 times.
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ooo clever thats a nice idea... might rob it hehe

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I don't need it because I know a way to use the wifi network to share your media libraries and stream the media to your phone. It's way better. I also can do it through Bluetooth.

So it can access the files anywhere? Cause this would be awesome to use with my Epic. I got alot of videos and music on my laptop. So if I was on my 3G network, I can wirless stream my music and videos?

No, wifi and Bluetooth only.

Whosdaman said:
So it can access the files anywhere? Cause this would be awesome to use with my Epic. I got alot of videos and music on my laptop. So if I was on my 3G network, I can wirless stream my music and videos?
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yes that is correct you can access the files from anywhere that you have data service or wifi! and yes wireless stream of them all
XGodOfModzX said:
No, wifi and Bluetooth only.
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incorrect, you can use over 3G and 4G as well with this

Oh I thought you were talking to me......awkward
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

and forgot to mention in the desktop dversion of pogoplug you can check an option to have your ps3 and your xbox 360 discover the music and videos and whatever else you may have on your external/s

How exactly does it work? Is there a server?
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Dockstar for PC
It works as a virtual drive. I have one and it is very useful in the house since I dont have to connect my hardrive to anything in order to access it. another useful thing i do with is transfer files...my brother has the password to it so he downloaded the desktop plugin. Now whenever we want to show each other a movie or song...we just copy and paste the file onto the virtual drive like we would a folder on our computer and we have full access to the newly uploaded content...
the only draw back is in playback of your movies and music when not on the same network...it takes a while to load, and you have to deal with constant buffering.

chizzwhizz said:
It works as a virtual drive. I have one and it is very useful in the house since I dont have to connect my hardrive to anything in order to access it. another useful thing i do with is transfer files...my brother has the password to it so he downloaded the desktop plugin. Now whenever we want to show each other a movie or song...we just copy and paste the file onto the virtual drive like we would a folder on our computer and we have full access to the newly uploaded content...
the only draw back is in playback of your movies and music when not on the same network...it takes a while to load, and you have to deal with constant buffering.
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i dont have any troubles with buffering personally, i watch stuff at work from my hard drive at home without any troubles.

+20 Mb without wi-fi

Anyone know if there is a way to install apps/games of over 20 mb without a wi-fi connection. So far i found nothing
Thank you for your help
also zune cant seem to let me sync my music (mp3 format) it says format not supported

strange , I just synced over 1000 mp3 using zune with a usb cable .

You need to tick the box in Zune to have it auto-convert to an acceptable format and you're good to go.
As for apps over 20mb - that'd be via the client and a USB cable.

solo21hd2 said:
You need to tick the box in Zune to have it auto-convert to an acceptable format and you're good to go.
As for apps over 20mb - that'd be via the client and a USB cable.
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Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?

doministry said:
Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?
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no , it is .wmv and if you sync an mp3 it will be converted to .wmv to .

tittieslover said:
Anyone know if there is a way to install apps/games of over 20 mb without a wi-fi connection. So far i found nothing
Thank you for your help
also zune cant seem to let me sync my music (mp3 format) it says format not supported
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To download an app larger than 20 MB, you need to be on a Wi-Fi connection or a connection to your Internet-connected computer via USB. Windows Phone 7 was designed for not only those with unlimited smartphone plans, but for those without smartphone plans or data capped smartphone plans. Therefore at this time, any apps over 20 MB must be downloaded over Wi-Fi/USB.
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no , it is .wmv and if you sync an mp3 it will be converted to .wmv to .
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Download music from the Zune Marketplace can be in either a protected .WMA format (not WMV, as that is for videos), or an MP3. When you tap a specific song to buy or download, an MP3 will have a little MP3 icon telling you that you are downloading the song in an MP3 format. The same goes for purchasing music through the PC client. If you see an MP3 symbol, you are downloading MP3s, if you don't see that symbol, they are protected WMA files.
Symbol looks like:
Code:
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|MP3|
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If you set up the Zune software to convert files to a lower bit-rate during sync, then your files will be converted to the same format as your original file (though it seems only MP3 and WMA - if your file is not of these types, it will convert to WMA). Your original file, will not be touched on your computer, and only your device will contain the modified file.

prjkthack said:
To download an app larger than 20 MB, you need to be on a Wi-Fi connection or a connection to your Internet-connected computer via USB. Windows Phone 7 was designed for not only those with unlimited smartphone plans, but for those without smartphone plans or data capped smartphone plans. Therefore at this time, any apps over 20 MB must be downloaded over Wi-Fi/USB.
Download music from the Zune Marketplace can be in either a protected .WMA format (not WMV, as that is for videos), or an MP3. When you tap a specific song to buy or download, an MP3 will have a little MP3 icon telling you that you are downloading the song in an MP3 format. The same goes for purchasing music through the PC client. If you see an MP3 symbol, you are downloading MP3s, if you don't see that symbol, they are protected WMA files.
Symbol looks like:
Code:
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|MP3|
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If you set up the Zune software to convert files to a lower bit-rate during sync, then your files will be converted to the same format as your original file (though it seems only MP3 and WMA - if your file is not of these types, it will convert to WMA). Your original file, will not be touched on your computer, and only your device will contain the modified file.
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So you mean you can buy mp3's from the phone and than just put it on the computer through Zune to have mp3 files there?

This restriction annoys me too, why not just have a pop up saying this is over 20meg, if you have a restricted data plan, it might be benifital to use Wifi or USB, do you want to continue?

For the mp3 i was unable to sync because i was trying top copy and drop them direcly from a usb drive to zune ... I bad to copy them on my computer first and then it worked

The 20mb limit is an operator restriction, not a phone one. It used to be 10mb...

how is it an operator restriction? wasnt limited on the HD2 though the same operate. its WP7 that limits it.

doministry said:
So you mean you can buy mp3's from the phone and than just put it on the computer through Zune to have mp3 files there?
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As long as you make sure you are buying MP3s from the Marketplace, then when your phone syncs with the Zune the next time you plug it into your computer, it'll sync that MP3 file to your computer.

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As long as you make sure you are buying MP3s from the Marketplace, then when your phone syncs with the Zune the next time you plug it into your computer, it'll sync that MP3 file to your computer.
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Ok, got it....

doministry said:
Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?
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Because some carriers have low data limits (like AT&T's 2GB limit and chain installing a bunch of large applications uses up tons of data). On top of that, if your data connection drops, then the file will have to start downloading all over again, which can lead to ridiculous data usage in low reception areas. Android does the same thing (restarts the download if the connection drops or something happens).
Music brought from Zune on a PC is downloaded in 320 kbps MP3 format. Just buy from the computer. The MP3s are huge, though. Like 10-15+ Megs per song, due to the high bitrate and low compression.

N8ter said:
Because some carriers have low data limits (like AT&T's 2GB limit and chain installing a bunch of large applications uses up tons of data). On top of that, if your data connection drops, then the file will have to start downloading all over again, which can lead to ridiculous data usage in low reception areas. Android does the same thing (restarts the download if the connection drops or something happens).
Music brought from Zune on a PC is downloaded in 320 kbps MP3 format. Just buy from the computer. The MP3s are huge, though. Like 10-15+ Megs per song, due to the high bitrate and low compression.
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Well I know what mp3 is, I'm the musician
Anyway, WiFi can also drop, it actually happens more often.

How does connecting via. USB to download apps works? My PC is connected to the internet.
Phone connected - Check
Zune detects - Check
Login - Check
Browse Marketplace - Check
Buy Apps - Check
... then Zune says 'App will be downloaded soon'??!
Couldn't find any link to download in Zune. No option to sync Apps etc.
I have to:-
1. Disconnect phone from PC
2. Go to Marketplace and search for the App
3. Tap on Buy
4. "You've already purchased this. Would you like to install it again? message"
5. Tap on Install
6. Downloading starts
It's a hassle ... esp when I have bought a couple of apps.

doministry said:
Well I know what mp3 is, I'm the musician
Anyway, WiFi can also drop, it actually happens more often.
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WiFi can drop, yes, but downloading **** off WiFi doesn't go against your data count with the carrier, and you always have the option of downloading with your computer over WiFi or a wired connection and then Syncing your phone via WiFi or USB.
I wasn't telling you what MP3 is. Someone said the files were WMVs. The music you buy off Zune aren't. The Subscription music (DRM'd) are low bitrate WMV files and they weigh in at like 4-6MB each (average). The brought MP3 files are high bitrate and weigh in at 10-15MB each.
I'm simply stating that if you are in a low reception area, or an area where the 3G->2G->3G handoff causes issues with downloads, you can end up using like 40 MB to download one MP3 from the Zune Marketplace. That is a real issue for people with a 2G data plan because they will also be syncing email, social network data, streaming music off Zune, and probably getting documents off SkyDrive, uploading videos to YouTube (that you can do trivially via email), etc.
If that happens 10x a month, that can be 300MB of your 2GB data limit, which is not a trivial number. For people like me who live in low reception areas, it can easily be more than that.
I only get a 1G (GPRS) connection here (rarely bouncing to edge), so don't talk to me about WiFi dropping more than a data connection. I'd probably use a Gig of data in month downloading due to failed connections and the phone restarting the download. WiFi is infinitely more reliable than ANY data network in this area, and I'm only 7 miles out the city. I've bounced between all 4 major carriers. They're all equally terrible - two of them don't get a connection here AT ALL.

numero said:
How does connecting via. USB to download apps works? My PC is connected to the internet.
Phone connected - Check
Zune detects - Check
Login - Check
Browse Marketplace - Check
Buy Apps - Check
... then Zune says 'App will be downloaded soon'??!
Couldn't find any link to download in Zune. No option to sync Apps etc.
I have to:-
1. Disconnect phone from PC
2. Go to Marketplace and search for the App
3. Tap on Buy
4. "You've already purchased this. Would you like to install it again? message"
5. Tap on Install
6. Downloading starts
It's a hassle ... esp when I have bought a couple of apps.
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from what I have seen, if you download apps to your computer, then sync your phone, then they will show up in the marketplace on the first screen, bottom left corner, it will tell you. click on it and you can install them.

N8ter said:
WiFi can drop, yes, but downloading **** off WiFi doesn't go against your data count with the carrier, and you always have the option of downloading with your computer over WiFi or a wired connection and then Syncing your phone via WiFi or USB.
I wasn't telling you what MP3 is. Someone said the files were WMVs. The music you buy off Zune aren't. The Subscription music (DRM'd) are low bitrate WMV files and they weigh in at like 4-6MB each (average). The brought MP3 files are high bitrate and weigh in at 10-15MB each.
I'm simply stating that if you are in a low reception area, or an area where the 3G->2G->3G handoff causes issues with downloads, you can end up using like 40 MB to download one MP3 from the Zune Marketplace. That is a real issue for people with a 2G data plan because they will also be syncing email, social network data, streaming music off Zune, and probably getting documents off SkyDrive, uploading videos to YouTube (that you can do trivially via email), etc.
If that happens 10x a month, that can be 300MB of your 2GB data limit, which is not a trivial number. For people like me who live in low reception areas, it can easily be more than that.
I only get a 1G (GPRS) connection here (rarely bouncing to edge), so don't talk to me about WiFi dropping more than a data connection. I'd probably use a Gig of data in month downloading due to failed connections and the phone restarting the download. WiFi is infinitely more reliable than ANY data network in this area, and I'm only 7 miles out the city. I've bounced between all 4 major carriers. They're all equally terrible - two of them don't get a connection here AT ALL.
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So you see, different experience here.
My carrier is very stable most of the time. And fast.
Most of WiFi I use is unstable.
SO, I still think user should be able to decide what size of files are downloaded.
To control it's own device and react according to situation.
Again, treating users like idiots. That's why they cannot learn anything more sofisticated later on.
And using computer, well, that was not part of the question.

doministry said:
Again, treating users like idiots. That's why they cannot learn anything more sofisticated later on.
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To this I say, most users are idiots. Maybe not us here on XDA (at least, most of us), but the majority of people who buy phones do not spend their late evenings browsing the forums of places like this one.
Most people are absolute idiots and the reason why they don't learn is because they refuse to learn, not because someone didn't provide "advanced" options. Everything must be done for them or else they are completely dissatisfied. So to this end, Windows Phone 7 is far more fool-proof than say Windows Mobile 6.5 or Android, and that is simply because most people are idiots. I do wish Microsoft would provide more options, but at this early in the game, we've gotta take what we got and run with it. More options will come as the OS matures, so just hang tight.
You know how we learn? We learn because of these limitations. If these limitations did not exist, we'd have no need for XDA or similar sites. So while I'd love more options, I love the fact that the lack of some options allows us to learn new things and gives people the motivation to learn and solve these issues.
We are, only human, after all.

Downloading Podcasts with Zune

Currently, I download podcasts on vista desktop. I then synced it with the phone. Can you do the same from phone, bypassing download to vista?
BTW, the zune application that is on the phone, is that only a player and to download podcasts I need full blown zune software?
Thanks

Good question. I hadn't considered looking for that until you just asked, but I don't see any way to download podcasts from within the app. It works great with the Zune client on PC though, and the software blows iTunes away.

I haven't tried this but I see no reason why you couldn't subscribe to a podcast via an RSS reader or manually download them via the mobile browser.

Tim.Smith said:
I haven't tried this but I see no reason why you couldn't subscribe to a podcast via an RSS reader or manually download them via the mobile browser.
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Correct. I've been using a Zune HD (I'm in the UK) and on the Zune software from the Podcast section in the Collection you can manually enter RSS feeds or download individual episodes.
I would think it's the same for WP7.

No reason you can't you an RSS reader like yomomedia can't downloadthose for you but Zune really is the way to go with WiFi syncing them automatically.

So there is no way to add a new podcast and update the podcast directly from the phone??
This is totally absurd.

arturobandini said:
So there is no way to add a new podcast and update the podcast directly from the phone??
This is totally absurd.
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Agreed.
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arturobandini said:
So there is no way to add a new podcast and update the podcast directly from the phone??
This is totally absurd.
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yomomedia can directly download any podcast you subscribe to automatically. I just choose to use zune since I don't need them immediately as they are available.

arturobandini said:
So there is no way to add a new podcast and update the podcast directly from the phone??
This is totally absurd.
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I'm beginning to wonder why you even have this phone....

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I'm beginning to wonder why you even have this phone....
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Actually I really love the Zune part and the OS interface.
But some missing features are really boring. But I'm sure MS will add them soon.

not so quick
You can set up a wireless sync with your wifi at home. The phone will use your wireless connection between your computer and phone to sync whatever podcasts you are subscribed to. Syncing begins after you have your phone plugged in for 10 minutes. I agree that a file manager would be helpful, but that may have to wait until the phone is cracked. In the meantime there is a ton of software available and its only going to get better.

arturobandini said:
So there is no way to add a new podcast and update the podcast directly from the phone??
This is totally absurd.
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You can set up a wireless sync with your wifi at home. The phone will use your wireless connection between your computer and phone to sync whatever podcasts you are subscribed to. Syncing begins after you have your phone plugged in for 10 minutes. I agree that a file manager would be helpful, but that may have to wait until the phone is cracked. In the meantime there is a ton of software available and its only going to get better.
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that is a very nice feature, now if only I would leave my phone in standby for 10 minutes...

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You can set up a wireless sync with your wifi at home. The phone will use your wireless connection between your computer and phone to sync whatever podcasts you are subscribed to.
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Usually people mainly need their podcasts (and the updates) when they are outside. Not when they are home.
This is why I think the necessity to sync with Zune is kind of absurd regarding podcasts.
This shall be done directly from the phone, as usual.

I usually sync my podcasts to my Zune before going to bed then I'm all set. Never felt the need to update outside .

List of useless Hogwash softwares for WP7

I have noticed many softwares are being released for just the PR point of view, with no actual practical use out from those applications.
Two of them which I found are:
1. Netflix: image quality, impracticality of paying to watch 2 hr long movie on cellphone.
2. Last.fm: You can't scrobble any music played on your cell, be it from zune phone memory or from streaming music from zune ... the only thing that scrobbles is when you use last.fm's own radio stations, which are nothing but a tool to promote artists who pay to get listed on their radio 'suggested tracks'.
3. ... list yours.

netflix is great. Mine looks clear as can be. Great for work breaks or keeping a kid entertained while you are trying to get something done.

Netflix is a bonus. I am sure people had their subscription long before the WP7 phone and they were streaming to their TV. So streaming to the phone is a bonus.
There are a lot of other music apps that are great to use that do not 'promote'. I am sure if Last.fm isn't your thing, you can find a susbstitute.

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netflix is great. Mine looks clear as can be. Great for work breaks or keeping a kid entertained while you are trying to get something done.
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agreed
mine plays very well even on edge! in an apartment with a low signal area

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1. Netflix: image quality, impracticality of paying to watch 2 hr long movie on cellphone.
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netflix is awesome, when i bring my lunch to work, i sit and watch tv shows on it, and i found the quailty to be great for a cellular connection (it isnt a cable connect on a hdtv, you know...)