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I recently bought a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play R800i, running android 2.3.4 and the latest Sony apps and stuff I also know that is unlocked to any carrier. I had read some things about locked bootloaders on this phone and was interested in rooting.
Question
1. What is a locked bootloader and what does it do? Can I unlock and relock it?
2. What's the easiest way to backup everything, except games on my phone?
3. If I root will I still be able to upgrade to ICS when the time comes? If so what's the easiest method to root?
4. If I install the ICS beta, can I return to stock GB?
5. What are some benefits of rooting this phone, I know about Custom Roms and such, is there anything else?
6. Can you dual boot between to different versions of android on the phone?
I think thats it, I'm used to my cheap Huawei U8180 that I could do anything too, I just don't wanna **** something up on this one.
Thanks
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1. A locked bootloader, means that you cannot flash roms using flashtool or flash kernels. You can unlock it and I think there is away to relock it. However, unlocking it voids the warranty.
2. The easiest way to backup everything is to run a NANDROID backup from recovery.
3. If you root, you will still be able to upgrade. The easiest method varies, but if you dont want to unlock your bootroader look up ZergRush.
4. If you install the ICS beta yes you can return to stock GB.
5. Rooting the phone allows you to use themes, install clockwork mod recovery, install apps to sd card and various other things.
6. You can dual boot in a sense but it is still being worked on.
XperiaPlayer said:
1. A locked bootloader, means that you cannot flash roms using flashtool or flash kernels. You can unlock it and I think there is away to relock it. However, unlocking it voids the warranty.
2. The easiest way to backup everything is to run a NANDROID backup from recovery.
3. If you root, you will still be able to upgrade. The easiest method varies, but if you dont want to unlock your bootroader look up ZergRush.
4. If you install the ICS beta yes you can return to stock GB.
5. Rooting the phone allows you to use themes, install clockwork mod recovery, install apps to sd card and various other things.
6. You can dual boot in a sense but it is still being worked on.
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If my bootloader is locked can I install your ICX Rom via ClockworkMod recovery?
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Zerosuit Connor said:
If my bootloader is locked can I install your ICX Rom via ClockworkMod recovery?
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You can't install the ICX kernel without unlocking the bootloader, so no.
Locked cwm only works with certain stock-based roms, like T.E.A.M. or Darkforest.
To install anything else you need a cwm kernel that has been flashed with fastboot. The type you install with an app after obtaining root cannot change kernels, only the system partition.
Basically, one runs from kernel, the other runs from system.
Custom kernels can only be flashed with fastboot.
Stock kernels can be flashed with fastboot or flash mode.
You only have usable fastboot with an unlocked phone.
If you try flashing something like cyanogen with the locked recovery you'll get a boot loop.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
captain67 said:
You can't install the ICX kernel without unlocking the bootloader, so no.
Locked cwm only works with certain stock-based roms, like T.E.A.M. or Darkforest.
To install anything else you need a cwm kernel that has been flashed with fastboot. The type you install with an app after obtaining root cannot change kernels, only the system partition.
Basically, one runs from kernel, the other runs from system.
Custom kernels can only be flashed with fastboot.
Stock kernels can be flashed with fastboot or flash mode.
You only have usable fastboot with an unlocked phone.
If you try flashing something like cyanogen with the locked recovery you'll get a boot loop.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
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What's the easiest way to unlock my bootloader? I would like it to be one of the reversible methods so if I **** it up, I can claim warranty.
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Zerosuit Connor said:
What's the easiest way to unlock my bootloader? I would like it to be one of the reversible methods so if I **** it up, I can claim warranty.
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Personally I like to use Omnius, but it can't be re-locked per se. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134334 as you can see in that thread, it's patched to seem locked but if they try loading an unsigned image it'll still work so they would find out.
I think re-locking only truly works for the official method, which if you're carrier locked isn't possible.
Also if you use Omnius, be very careful about leaving the sticker covering the test point intact or the warranty is void.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
Is there anything purely software? Can the one that sony ericsson posted for their handsets be relocked?
I have no experience with testpoints and it all seems way to much of a pain in the ass.
Zerosuit Connor said:
Is there anything purely software? Can the one that sony ericsson posted for their handsets be relocked?
I have no experience with testpoints and it all seems way to much of a pain in the ass.
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u can follow this tutorial.. working with all xperia 2011 phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034087
ezadsyafiq99 said:
u can follow this tutorial.. working with all xperia 2011 phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034087
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Can I relock If i use that method?
The carrier locked plays can be done ONLY with the test point. That's it, no exceptions.
If you bought the phone full price and not carrier locked, you can use the official Sony method, which is reversible.
Unlocking your sim does not enable fastboot to use the official method so don't bother asking.
When the phone is off, hold the search button and plug it into USB. If the notification light is blue and the screen stays black, you have fastboot and can use the official method.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
Worked brilliantly and I am so impressed, thankyou to eeveryone. What's the best kernel for the xperia play? I have the doom kernel atm
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I've been trying to unlock the bootloader on my R800i using the instructions on the sony unlockbootloader site. My phone isn't locked to any carrier, it says the bootloader is unlockable, and when I put it into fastboot mode with the search key while plugging in I get the blue light and I get a device that shows up under device manager as S1Boot Fastboot. I've installed the android sdk along with google usb driver 4.0 and the android_winusb.inf file from the site. It keeps telling me that no drivers were found when i manually try to install the driver though, also tried downloading fastboot usb drivers from a few other places (also to no avail). Keep getting the waiting for devices message without this driver being installed.
Anyone have any ideas why this driver won't install for me?
Running Windows Vista SP2 and using my SE Xperia Play R800i.
Appreciate any help.
Gjusmc said:
I've been trying to unlock the bootloader on my R800i using the instructions on the sony unlockbootloader site. My phone isn't locked to any carrier, it says the bootloader is unlockable, and when I put it into fastboot mode with the search key while plugging in I get the blue light and I get a device that shows up under device manager as S1Boot Fastboot. I've installed the android sdk along with google usb driver 4.0 and the android_winusb.inf file from the site. It keeps telling me that no drivers were found when i manually try to install the driver though, also tried downloading fastboot usb drivers from a few other places (also to no avail). Keep getting the waiting for devices message without this driver being installed.
Anyone have any ideas why this driver won't install for me?
Running Windows Vista SP2 and using my SE Xperia Play R800i.
Appreciate any help.
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Have you installed the android dev tool, forget what it's called
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Sorry, I know this is the arc forum, but as there is no mk16 forum, I saw that usually people post pro development's in arc's forums.
I bought an used mk16 with the 4.0.1.a.0.283 firm, and the bootloader unlockable as explained in this link the SE website.
I installed Android SDK, JDK, PC companion, etc. I was unable to install the fastboot drivers until I found someones in SE website and now it seems to be OK (blue light if I connect the phone (turned off) to the computer while holding menu key)
After that, I configured my phone to enable USB debugging. Then I installed flashtool, and I tried to root the phone with it. It worked! (I didn't expect it to work, because I saw a few post with scripts, etc. to root the phone...)
So...
- Now I am with that firmware, rooted. Wich rootable firmware do you recommend me to flash to my phone? I always loved cyanogenmod, but I don't know if there is problems with the freexperia releases (like bad quality in camera picture, low volume, etc.)
- What is the baseband? I have one ending in 49.
- What are the requirements to install clockworkmod recovery? I love this recovery to do my nand backups, etc. Do i need to unlock bootloader to this? Is there any chance to lock again the bootloader? You know, for warranty things.
- Do you have ny list of what apks are secure to erase from /system/app? For example, I don need the moxier pro, let's golf, etc.
I suppose that those questions have been answered before, but without the mk16 forum, searching that info is quite impossible...
Thanks in advance.
Search keywords: mk16 mk16i bootloader flashtool wotan
khodos said:
Sorry, I know this is the arc forum, but as there is no mk16 forum, I saw that usually people post pro development's in arc's forums.
I bought an used mk16 with the 4.0.1.a.0.283 firm, and the bootloader unlockable as explained in this link the SE website.
I installed Android SDK, JDK, PC companion, etc. I was unable to install the fastboot drivers until I found someones in SE website and now it seems to be OK (blue light if I connect the phone (turned off) to the computer while holding menu key)
After that, I configured my phone to enable USB debugging. Then I installed flashtool, and I tried to root the phone with it. It worked! (I didn't expect it to work, because I saw a few post with scripts, etc. to root the phone...)
So...
- Now I am with that firmware, rooted. Wich rootable firmware do you recommend me to flash to my phone? I always loved cyanogenmod, but I don't know if there is problems with the freexperia releases (like bad quality in camera picture, low volume, etc.)
- What is the baseband? I have one ending in 49.
- What are the requirements to install clockworkmod recovery? I love this recovery to do my nand backups, etc. Do i need to unlock bootloader to this? Is there any chance to lock again the bootloader? You know, for warranty things.
- Do you have ny list of what apks are secure to erase from /system/app? For example, I don need the moxier pro, let's golf, etc.
I suppose that those questions have been answered before, but without the mk16 forum, searching that info is quite impossible...
Thanks in advance.
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Xperia Pro has a very few roms for now.The famous CM7 & CM9 are available for Xperia Pro.I guess,MIUI is also available(not sure).But,You must unlock your bootloader in order to install these roms.Rooted phone is not enough to install these roms.Atleast not yet. And rest assured,there is not drawback regarding camera and volume.Different users have different taste,many like it and many dont.But the fact is they are closely equal.
Basebands are well explained by a XDA member in the following post,please do take a look at it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462360
For CWM, you only need a rooted phone.And the easiest way to install CWM on locked-bootloader Xperia 2011 device is by using this beautiful app from the following link.Go check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
For relocking bootloader,i haven't come across any thread which claims to relock Xperia Pro's bootloader.But yes,relocking Xperia Arc's bootloader is poosible.You can give it a try but I'm not sure if it would work on Xperia Pro or not.Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335&highlight=relock
Here again,we have a the list of system apks with their descriptions for Xperia Arc's firmware.I assume that the Xperia Pro Has Almost the same System Apks with it so the list for Xperia Arc would also imply for Xperia Pro as well.Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
PS: Welcome To XDA
Thank you very much for all that information and the wellcome.
I can execute commands like "fastboot.exe -i 0x0fce getvar version" or "fastboot.exe devices" while in fastboot mode, so I assume that's OK.
But in the SE website they are very insistent about voiding warranty depending of blablabla. My phone is an unlocked (SIM free) from fabric one. I understand it will void the warranty if the phone would be form Vodafone (for example), but not mine... Do you know anything about this?
Do you recommend me any official rom? maybe the .42 one?
Now I have clear everything about the baseband, thanks.
That CWM apps you linked say to me (downloades form market) that MK16i is not supported by the app
I will take a look at that APK list, but first I want to be able do a NAND backup before starting to remove apks
Thanks again.
khodos said:
Thank you very much for all that information and the wellcome.
I can execute commands like "fastboot.exe -i 0x0fce getvar version" or "fastboot.exe devices" while in fastboot mode, so I assume that's OK.
But in the SE website they are very insistent about voiding warranty depending of blablabla. My phone is an unlocked (SIM free) from fabric one. I understand it will void the warranty if the phone would be form Vodafone (for example), but not mine... Do you know anything about this?
Do you recommend me any official rom? maybe the .42 one?
Now I have clear everything about the baseband, thanks.
That CWM apps you linked say to me (downloades form market) that MK16i is not supported by the app
I will take a look at that APK list, but first I want to be able do a NAND backup before starting to remove apks
Thanks again.
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See, Unlocked phone means the phone is SIM free,i.e you can use any carrier SIM in your phone.But, Unlocked-Bootloader is a different thing.When you unlock bootloader,then you are free to flash any ROM which is compatible with your phone.Unlocking Bootloader voids warranty and that is what the SE website is trying to say.
I would recommend you to update your phone to the official .42 fimware version because it has many new features when compared to .283 ROM.Use SE update service or PC Companion for updating your phone.
And about cwm..try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302037&highlight=cwm
Thx again
I know the diff between sim locked and bootloader looked. It's just that I don't understand why they let you unlock the bootloader, but don't keep the warranty...
I have unlocked the bootloader right now. Didn't know that it wipes all your configuration, apps, etc! At least, it's still rooted.
I have installed that CWM, and booted to it, but now I don't know what combination do I have to press to boot again into CWM XD Maybe is an image to boot just one time?
And about the ROM you recommend, PC Companion offers me the .62, not the .42. SE Update Service tells me that I have modified software (because of the rooting, I suppose) so it can't update my phone. Any idea?
Thanks again
khodos said:
Thx again
I know the diff between sim locked and bootloader looked. It's just that I don't understand why they let you unlock the bootloader, but don't keep the warranty...
I have unlocked the bootloader right now. Didn't know that it wipes all your configuration, apps, etc! At least, it's still rooted.
And about the ROM you recommend, PC Companion offers me the .62, not the .42. SE Update Service tells me that I have modified software (because of the rooting, I suppose) so it can't update my phone. Any idea?
Thanks again
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Now that you have unlocked-bootloader, then you must not use SE update service,niether PC Companion Update nor SE OTA updates !! If you do,then it will brick your phone.
The other option you have is to flash a firmware.For more details follow this link http://www.wotanserver.com/en/sony-ericsson/se/xperia-pro-mk16/unlock-tool/debranding-flash
Thx!
I edited my previous post with this:
I have installed that CWM, and booted to it, but now I don't know what combination do I have to press to boot again into CWM XD Taking a look at the commands executed in the bat, maybe is an image to boot just one time?
Thanks about the wotan link. Really easy to flash. Now I'm in .42. Do you know where can I find the firmware changelogs?
I'll take a second look to flashtool, because I'm going to need it to flash the CM 7.2 and the baseband...
Thanks again.
khodos said:
Thx!
I edited my previous post with this:
I have installed that CWM, and booted to it, but now I don't know what combination do I have to press to boot again into CWM XD Taking a look at the commands executed in the bat, maybe is an image to boot just one time?
Thanks about the wotan link. Really easy to flash. Now I'm in .42. Do you know where can I find the firmware changelogs?
I'll take a second look to flashtool, because I'm going to need it to flash the CM 7.2 and the baseband...
Thanks again.
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Search in this forum and you can find the changelog
Have fun.
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QUESTION
AFTER OPENING THE BOOTLOADER
I CAN FLASH THE ROM AN OFFICIAL FTF?
PANCHOMATASANO said:
AFTER OPENING THE BOOTLOADER
I CAN FLASH THE ROM AN OFFICIAL FTF?
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Yea sure..
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khodos said:
Thx!
I edited my previous post with this:
I have installed that CWM, and booted to it, but now I don't know what combination do I have to press to boot again into CWM XD Taking a look at the commands executed in the bat, maybe is an image to boot just one time?
Thanks about the wotan link. Really easy to flash. Now I'm in .42. Do you know where can I find the firmware changelogs?
I'll take a second look to flashtool, because I'm going to need it to flash the CM 7.2 and the baseband...
Thanks again.
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Well if u wan a permantent CWM based recovery and u r using any stock or stock based ROM use this kernel.. flash it using fastboot..
http://www.mediafire.com/?m4f43973m3vxybs
PANCHOMATASANO said:
AFTER OPENING THE BOOTLOADER
I CAN FLASH THE ROM AN OFFICIAL FTF?
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If you just need to flash an official firmware, then there is no need to unlock the bootloader. I was advised not to unlock it when not necessary (for example to flash the phone with some custom ROM like CM). Because with locked bootloader you should not be able to brick the phone and you could be always able to save the situation using Sony PC Companion.
So if you need to flash an official firmware, you can do it without any unlocking via Wotanserver. The firmware flashing is free, just register there. The flashing is very easy - there is a graphic wizard which tells you what to do.
EDIT: Ooops, flashing FW using Wotanserver is no longer free - costs 2 EUR now. Few weeks ago I flashed my phone there for free...
I just Rooted my Z1 Compact by this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081 and now I have 4.3 firmware UK. Now I have some questions:
1. When I check on phone if unlocking bootloader is possible, it says no. I haven't read that article about unlocking fully, but is there still any way to unlock it? Because, once Stable official CM comes out, I could install it.
2. When I check for software update, it says already latest, and doesn't provide KitKat(Don't forget I'm on UK rooted 4.3). Why? Also do I loose root if I update by official software?
3. As I said, once CM, stable comes out I will install it. But until then, I'm gonna stay on official firmware + root. What is simplest way to update to latest firmwares but still having root(or if really required, first updating, then rooting that latest firmware)?
I tried to be as straight as possible with my questions, and it would really mean a lot to me, any useful answers because I don't have much time for reading all those posts. Note that before this phone I had already Samsung galaxy mini with many roms, but for this phone it's much more complicated, so that's why I'm asking this all. Thanks.
Smoller said:
I just Rooted my Z1 Compact by this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081 and now I have 4.3 firmware UK. Now I have some questions:
1. When I check on phone if unlocking bootloader is possible, it says no. I haven't read that article about unlocking fully, but is there still any way to unlock it? Because, once Stable official CM comes out, I could install it.
2. When I check for software update, it says already latest, and doesn't provide KitKat(Don't forget I'm on UK rooted 4.3). Why? Also do I loose root if I update by official software?
3. As I said, once CM, stable comes out I will install it. But until then, I'm gonna stay on official firmware + root. What is simplest way to update to latest firmwares but still having root(or if really required, first updating, then rooting that latest firmware)?
I tried to be as straight as possible with my questions, and it would really mean a lot to me, any useful answers because I don't have much time for reading all those posts. Note that before this phone I had already Samsung galaxy mini with many roms, but for this phone it's much more complicated, so that's why I'm asking this all. Thanks.
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1. If you got your Phone from a provider then you're probably out of luck.
2. Should have used this instead if you want KK - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688933
3. Read the forums with each new release, unless you unlock the BL you'll have to wait for a method like above.
XperienceD said:
1. If you got your Phone from a provider then you're probably out of luck.
2. Should have used this instead if you want KK - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688933
3. Read the forums with each new release, unless you unlock the BL you'll have to wait for a method like above.
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Well, yeah it's from T-mobile, so there is no way to unlock bootloader? Thanks for link, but is there any way to update just using phone? I have problems with PC, whenever PC detects flash drive inserted(my phone in flash mode) it freezes at the end of installation, so I have to flash on another PC, which is frustrating as I can do that like every 2 weeks(I have only 1 PC)
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Well, yeah it's from T-mobile, so there is no way to unlock bootloader?
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Unfortunately, no. I had my Z for about year living in hope but Sony have locked it down too much for the devs to crack, so I'll never get another Phone from a carrier again.
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Thanks for link, but is there any way to update just using phone?
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Modding the Phone breaks the OTA update service which is why, once you decide to start modding you're better off just flashing an .ftf to update.
Smoller said:
Well, yeah it's from T-mobile, so there is no way to unlock bootloader? Thanks for link, but is there any way to update just using phone? I have problems with PC, whenever PC detects flash drive inserted(my phone in flash mode) it freezes at the end of installation, so I have to flash on another PC, which is frustrating as I can do that like every 2 weeks(I have only 1 PC)
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Z1 compact from tmobile? or z1s? or you have a z1 compact on tmobiles network? If it says bootloader unlocked allowed: no, you cant unlock it and will not be able to install cm. Where did you get the phone from?
Correct me if I'm wrong but.... Xperia Z1 Compact is still not available in US much more on carriers like T-Mobile.
If I guess correctly, 'bootloader unlocked allowed: No' should be stored in the TA partition. Maybe it's not so hard to find, if you compare two TA backups (one disallowed and one allowed). Is there any research done already about that?
@Smoller do you have a backup of your TA partition (DRM keys)?
@zxz0O0
It's impossible by just comparing. I'm not sure if you still remember my reply on your bootloader unlocking thread but I posted there a comparison between 2 the same TA backup just between 2 reboots and the result was that they are very2 different from each other.
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If I guess correctly, 'bootloader unlocked allowed: No' should be stored in the TA partition. Maybe it's not so hard to find, if you compare two TA backups (one disallowed and one allowed). Is there any research done already about that?
@Smoller do you have a backup of your TA partition (DRM keys)?
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Riyal said:
@zxz0O0
It's impossible by just comparing. I'm not sure if you still remember my reply on your bootloader unlocking thread but I posted there a comparison between 2 the same TA backup just between 2 reboots and the result was that they are very2 different from each other.
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What? You made a TA backup on your phone and after 2 reboots it was completetly different? No I've never seen a post like that, that sounds really weird.
I would really be interested to see this myself.
Yes it says exactly bootloader unlock allowed: No. And I'm from Croatia so most likely it is also available in other Europe countries, especially UK...From T-Mobile...really weird it's not still on US Tmobile because this phone is made in January. And I can make a DRM backup if needed, if there might be any way to unlock bootloader. Also, just to be sure, if I input unlock SIM code for other carriers, it has still everything same except possibility to put SIM cards and use other carriers, right?
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zxz0O0 said:
What? You made a TA backup on your phone and after 2 reboots it was completetly different? No I've never seen a post like that, that sounds really weird.
I would really be interested to see this myself.
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@zxz0O0
You did forget it... Anyways here it is... 2 working TA backups made from the same version of Backup TA. What I only did between the 2 backups was
1. Make the 1st backup
2. Reboot the phone
3. Make the 2nd backup
And here are the results.
Please do note that I tried both TA backups and both of them are perfectly fine when restored on my phone. Also I made a 3rd TA backup and it's also very different from the last 2 backups which is shown in the screenshot.
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You did forget it... Anyways here it is... 2 working TA backups made from the same version of Backup TA. What I only did between the 2 backups was
1. Make the 1st backup
2. Reboot the phone
3. Make the 2nd backup
And here are the results.
Please do note that I tried both TA backups and both of them are perfectly fine when restored on my phone. Also I made a 3rd TA backup and it's also very different from the last 2 backups which is shown in the screenshot.
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Isn't it only the log that changed? And the padding at the end? If not then I guess the partition is randomly encrypted and the key is stored inside the partition.
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Isn't it only the log that changed? And the padding at the end? If not then I guess the partition is randomly encrypted and the key is stored inside the partition.
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Nope! The log there is only like 4 lines. While the difference between both files are hundreds or even thousands of lines You could see the grey and yellow markings on the left. That should graphically show you what & how big the difference are between the 2 files.
Hello, I just bought an R800x Verizon Xperia Play. I have no use of the phone part of it, but am mainly looking to overclock it and use it more for gaming with emulators (SNES, n64, Gameboy). However, on the side, I have noticed people using newer versions of Android which seems rather interesting. The current version seems decent (seems out of date though), but I was wondering what are the advantages to upgrading? Also I was wanting to know if there is any cool upgrades/apps you guys would recommend.
AchillesNo1 said:
Hello, I just bought an R800x Verizon Xperia Play. I have no use of the phone part of it, but am mainly looking to overclock it and use it more for gaming with emulators (SNES, n64, Gameboy). However, on the side, I have noticed people using newer versions of Android which seems rather interesting. The current version seems decent (seems out of date though), but I was wondering what are the advantages to upgrading? Also I was wanting to know if there is any cool upgrades/apps you guys would recommend.
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One of the advantages of upgrading to any newer version of Android would be the increased amount of compatible apps available for your phone. Another advantage would be the amount of features you get over the Stock ROM. But with advantages you also get disadvantages, as newer versions of Android need more resources to run the actual OS(except for Kitkat witch uses less resources than its predecessor Jellybean), leaving you with less resources for Apps/Games.
I'm currently using [ROM][GSM][CDMA][CM10][MULTIBOOT][NEOL+PLAY]Racing SPEED EDITION EOL and playing Pokemon Black in DraStic (NDS Emulator), and I haven't encounter any problems
TheScriptKitty said:
One of the advantages of upgrading to any newer version of Android would be the increased amount of compatible apps available for your phone. Another advantage would be the amount of features you get over the Stock ROM. But with advantages you also get disadvantages, as newer versions of Android need more resources to run the actual OS(except for Kitkat witch uses less resources than its predecessor Jellybean), leaving you with less resources for Apps/Games.
I'm currently using [ROM][GSM][CDMA][CM10][MULTIBOOT][NEOL+PLAY]Racing SPEED EDITION EOL and playing Pokemon Black in DraStic (NDS Emulator), and I haven't encounter any problems
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Wow that's awesome, can you please tell me how??
I've noticed people have upgraded to jellybean 4.1.2, is that a good idea? Will I be able to play Pokemon Black or overclock?
Also, I've noticed that I would have to unlock my bootloader, and i'm not quite sure how to do that, but I definitely want too.
AchillesNo1 said:
Wow that's awesome, can you please tell me how??
I've noticed people have upgraded to jellybean 4.1.2, is that a good idea? Will I be able to play Pokemon Black or overclock?
Also, I've noticed that I would have to unlock my bootloader, and i'm not quite sure how to do that, but I definitely want too.
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The ROM I'm using is actually based on Jellybean 4.1.2 (CM10), and i have it Over Clocked (BTW using Lupus kernel V13).
Yes, in order to be able to get Jellybean 4.1.2 you will need a Costume Kernel and in order to get a Costume kernel you will need to Unlock you Bootloader. Since your Xperia Play is R800X you will not be able to get Fastboot Mode unless you use a paid method to Unlock you Bootloader. You can unlock you Bootloader via the Test Point Method for free but it will not enable Fastboot Mode, you can still Flash a Costume Kernel but you will have to find the Costume Kernel in FTF form in order to be able to Flash it through Flash Mode in FlashTool.
TheScriptKitty said:
The ROM I'm using is actually based on Jellybean 4.1.2 (CM10), and i have it Over Clocked (BTW using Lupus kernel V13).
Yes, in order to be able to get Jellybean 4.1.2 you will need a Costume Kernel and in order to get a Costume kernel you will need to Unlock you Bootloader. Since your Xperia Play is R800X you will not be able to get Fastboot Mode unless you use a paid method to Unlock you Bootloader. You can unlock you Bootloader via the Test Point Method for free but it will not enable Fastboot Mode, you can still Flash a Costume Kernel but you will have to find the Costume Kernel in FTF form in order to be able to Flash it through Flash Mode in FlashTool.
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Is there a specific tutorial you recommend me taking a look at? I am ok with not having a fastboot mode but it seems like I might be missing out without it
Also, when I type in the code to my phone, I go to configuration but I do not see rooting status anywhere. It just says MEID and MEID Software version along with the available speech codecs and working brands...
AchillesNo1 said:
Is there a specific tutorial you recommend me taking a look at? I am ok with not having a fastboot mode but it seems like I might be missing out without it
Also, when I type in the code to my phone, I go to configuration but I do not see rooting status anywhere. It just says MEID and MEID Software version along with the available speech codecs and working brands...
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Use the tutorial I have already provided (Test Point Method). The only problem with not having Fastboot Mode is that you will need to wait until some one converts a Kernel from .img to .ftf.
The Rooting Status doesn't really mater, Since your phone is R800X its Probably (99.9999999%) "Bootloader unlock Status: No".
TheScriptKitty said:
Use the tutorial I have already provided (Test Point Method). The only problem with not having Fastboot Mode is that you will need to wait until some one converts a Kernel from .img to .ftf.
The Rooting Status doesn't really mater, Since your phone is R800X its Probably (99.9999999%) "Bootloader unlock Status: No".
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Ok, awesome thanks for the help I plan to test point mine later today. Anything else I should be aware of?
Also I noticed you said my rom has to be in .ftf format... Does that mean I'll be able to use a version of jb 4.1.2
AchillesNo1 said:
Ok, awesome thanks for the help I plan to test point mine later today. Anything else I should be aware of?
Also I noticed you said my rom has to be in .ftf format... Does that mean I'll be able to use a version of jb 4.1.2
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The Kernel (NOT the ROM) has to be in .ftf instead of .img. Boot.img is for Fastboot Mode and kernle.ftf is for Flash Mode.
Yes, you will be able to use android 4.1.2 if you want.
My Xperia Play is R800a and I also wasn't able to get Fastboot Mode but I was able to Flash Lupus Kernel V13 (The FTF Version) via Flash Mode in Flashtool, then flashed a Jellbean(4.1.2) ROM (.zip file) via Costume Recovery(witch is build into the kernel)
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There is a Thanks Button
TheScriptKitty said:
The Kernel (NOT the ROM) has to be in .ftf instead of .img. Boot.img is for Fastboot Mode and kernle.ftf is for Flash Mode.
Yes, you will be able to use android 4.1.2 if you want.
My Xperia Play is R800a and I also wasn't able to get Fastboot Mode but I was able to Flash Lupus Kernel V13 (The FTF Version) via Flash Mode in Flashtool, then flashed a Jellbean(4.1.2) ROM (.zip file) via Costume Recovery(witch is build into the kernel)
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Ok I have attempted to unlock bootloader with test point and now i am officially confused. I understand what point I need to hit on the back, but when do I do it? I mean, I followed the tutorial, downloaded the s1tool, but upon attempting it nothing happened. I had my closepin on the testpoint while i plugged in my usb cord and I witnessed nothing happen.... I felt like I was supposed to have the phone in a special mode or something, rather than just off.
AchillesNo1 said:
Ok I have attempted to unlock bootloader with test point and now i am officially confused. I understand what point I need to hit on the back, but when do I do it? I mean, I followed the tutorial, downloaded the s1tool, but upon attempting it nothing happened. I had my closepin on the testpoint while i plugged in my usb cord and I witnessed nothing happen.... I felt like I was supposed to have the phone in a special mode or something, rather than just off.
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Did you installed the drivers?
If yes, try running S1tool in compatibility mode.
Also try using this Test Point:
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^Just connect the two points for the Test Point.
TheScriptKitty said:
Did you installed the drivers?
If yes, try running S1tool in compatibility mode.
Also try using this Test Point:
^Just connect the two points for the Test Point.
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Ok, so the guide says my "Windows will try to find the drivers and will attempt to install them. ", which is fine, but I never got that prompt from my computer. Also, when you say run S1tool in compatibility mode, you mean administrator? And do I just leave the phone off right?
sorry for all the questions :X
AchillesNo1 said:
Ok, so the guide says my "Windows will try to find the drivers and will attempt to install them. ", which is fine, but I never got that prompt from my computer. Also, when you say run S1tool in compatibility mode, you mean administrator? And do I just leave the phone off right?
sorry for all the questions :X
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Okay, first you need to download Flashtool(This is the easiest way of installing the drivers) and install it like any other Program. Once done go to C:\Flashtool\drivers and run Flashtool-drivers.exe to install the drivers.
To run S1tool in compatibility mode just right click on S1tool.exe and click where its says something like "fix compatibility problem" then click on the second option. Then Click on "The program works on an older version of windows" then chose WIndows XP. Click next and save.
And yes, the phone has to be off through the hole process.
TheScriptKitty said:
Okay, first you need to download Flashtool(This is the easiest way of installing the drivers) and install it like any other Program. Once done go to C:\Flashtool\drivers and run Flashtool-drivers.exe to install the drivers.
To run S1tool in compatibility mode just right click on S1tool.exe and click where its says something like "fix compatibility problem" then click on the second option. Then Click on "The program works on an older version of windows" then chose WIndows XP. Click next and save.
And yes, the phone has to be off through the hole process.
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wow! i'm not sure if that worked but I believe it did... everything worked i believe... S1 tools acted a little weird but I think it worked I just got a different message because the guy in the tutorial was probably using a different phone.
Now, what kernel is available that is .FTF?
AchillesNo1 said:
wow! i'm not sure if that worked but I believe it did... everything worked i believe... S1 tools acted a little weird but I think it worked I just got a different message because the guy in the tutorial was probably using a different phone.
Now, what kernel is available that is .FTF?
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If it worked than you should get something like this: LOADER VERSION: "r4A069"
(r = Unlocked Bootlader and R = Locked Bootlader)
Here is a link to a website that has lots of kernels in FTF format(its the best list but its in Spanish)
http://www.taringa.net/comunidades/...pilacion-de-kernels-ftf-para-xperia-play.html
But before you flash a Kernel I would recommend to look for a ROM you would like to try out and see what Kernel it supports.
TheScriptKitty said:
If it worked than you should get something like this: LOADER VERSION: "r4A069"
(r = Unlocked Bootlader and R = Locked Bootlader)
Here is a link to a website that has lots of kernels in FTF format(its the best list but its in Spanish)
http://www.taringa.net/comunidades/...pilacion-de-kernels-ftf-para-xperia-play.html
But before you flash a Kernel I would recommend to look for a ROM you would like to try out and see what Kernel it supports.
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Well, I got the message "START NAK: 0300A"... not sure what that means but for some reason I felt like it worked...
Anyways, hoping that it worked I found this to be useful http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184897
I like the Super Jelly bean 5.5 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372122 ) but the instructions is something i have never dealt with yet...
* flash your favourite FTF-62 or 79
* flash JB kernel lupus JBv8 480p XPLAY** turbo kernel 3.1 for NEO L
* you can flash lupus jb v13 480p also..but i still recommend for 600+data partition and little more performance v8 480p for xperia play.
* full wipe/cache/system
* install rom from sdcard
AchillesNo1 said:
Well, I got the message "START NAK: 0300A"... not sure what that means but for some reason I felt like it worked...
Anyways, hoping that it worked I found this to be useful http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184897
I like the Super Jelly bean 5.5 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372122 ) but the instructions is something i have never dealt with yet...
* flash your favourite FTF-62 or 79
* flash JB kernel lupus JBv8 480p XPLAY** turbo kernel 3.1 for NEO L
* you can flash lupus jb v13 480p also..but i still recommend for 600+data partition and little more performance v8 480p for xperia play.
* full wipe/cache/system
* install rom from sdcard
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To flash FTF-62(or 79) and the Kernel you need to do it in Flashtool
Steps:
1.Open Flashtool
2.Click on the Thunderbolt Icon
3.Select Flash Mode
4.Select the FTF file
5.When FlashTool tells you to:
.....Power off your phone
.....Hold the Back Button
.....Connect phone to PC
6.Once done Power On
To Flash the ROM(.zip file) just enter the Recovery by pressing the Back Button at boot
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WOW! That's just awesome!
Certainly I'll use this when my X Play arrives
Did anyone try this nifty tool yet? Looks promising!
that looks amazing, can anyone confirm it's working? I'm getting the XT1563 version soon
working flawlessly. thanks
Seems really promising! I am having a slight issue however.
After unlucking the bootloader succesfully, when i proceed to flash twrp, it says success. However, when I boot into recovery, i get the classic "Resting Android robot" saying "No Command"
SaladEsc said:
Seems really promising! I am having a slight issue however.
After unlucking the bootloader succesfully, when i proceed to flash twrp, it says success. However, when I boot into recovery, i get the classic "Resting Android robot" saying "No Command"
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its because of the install-recovery.sh in system/etc folder
AnoopKumar said:
its because of the install-recovery.sh in system/etc folder
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so you are suggesting to delete that file?
if so how can i becuase i have no root access
droider007 said:
so you are suggesting to delete that file?
if so how can i becuase i have no root access
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after installing custom recovery using tool-kit and directly reboot to recovery from fastboot menu, then mount system and rename the install-recovery.sh :good:
Awesome tool. I just have one question. Is it possible to relock the bootloader without losing root? I unlocked bootloader manually, I boot twrp (not flashed, just boot) and installed SuperSU. So I still have the stock recovery, but I'd like to relock the bootloader without having to lose root.
ToYeD said:
Awesome tool. I just have one question. Is it possible to relock the bootloader without losing root? I unlocked bootloader manually, I boot twrp (not flashed, just boot) and installed SuperSU. So I still have the stock recovery, but I'd like to relock the bootloader without having to lose root.
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Hallo , here is a Link with a Tut how to Unroot the Moto X Play.
My phone is hast not arrived yet. Can´t confirm the procedure. :silly:
Greeting... Kaz
i installed this program but when i reboot to recovery mod there`s "no command" (i followed the steps)
Serial Kazama said:
Hallo , here is a Link with a Tut how to Unroot the Moto X Play.
My phone is hast not arrived yet. Can´t confirm the procedure. :silly:
Greeting... Kaz
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I want to relock the bootloader but keep root. I don't want to lose root or busybox as I need them for several functions. I just want to get rid of the annoying warning on boot that says I have an unlocked bootloader.
ToYeD said:
I want to relock the bootloader but keep root. I don't want to lose root or busybox as I need them for several functions. I just want to get rid of the annoying warning on boot that says I have an unlocked bootloader.
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Then flash a different logo.bin
Sent from my XT1562 using XDA Free mobile app
rober788 said:
i installed this program but when i reboot to recovery mod there`s "no command" (i followed the steps)
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That means you're still on stock recovery..
After rooting my moto battery life has benn reduced. Anyone has this problem too?
Hi guys! Just receive my new moto x play today and want to root it! Its good to go with this tool?!
Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
I've used the tool to unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP. Worked smooth and didn't really have any issues. I did had to flash TWRP twice, but that might have been an error on my part for not looking at my phone after the first flash attempt. SU installed via on screen notifications after booting into recovery, worked like a charm too.
I recommend this tool as it takes away a load of work, especially with the bootloader unlock.
When trying to boot in recovery i got "No Command" while the device is unlocked and i tried to flash new recovery...
EDIT:
You must enable "OEM unlock" after the reboot
I'm having issues trying to downgrade to Andriod 12 from andriod 13 beta 3.
1. I've opted out of Beta
2. Software update notification received
3. Click on download and install
4. After a couple of mins get error message couldn't update 'Installation problem'
The screen remains on the update screen.
What am i doing wrong please help?
Device state: locked
edit:actually now I'm stuck in Fastboot Mode
Phone keeps rebooting back to Fastboot mode
With a locked bootloader, your only option to get fixed is to try sideloading an OTA - usually, the OTA has to be either the same as what you were most recently running or newer. Click the yellow How To Guide quick filter at the top of the list of threads for one of the root guides. Even though you're not rooting, one or two of them should tell how to sideload an OTA - just ignore things that reference root.
This is why the instructions for the Beta program say you should have an unlocked bootloader, as without an unlocked bootloader your choices to fix the situation are much more limited.
roirraW edor ehT said:
With a locked bootloader, your only option to get fixed is to try sideloading an OTA - usually, the OTA has to be either the same as what you were most recently running or newer. Click the yellow How To Guide quick filter at the top of the list of threads for one of the root guides. Even though you're not rooting, one or two of them should tell how to sideload an OTA - just ignore things that reference root.
This is why the instructions for the Beta program say you should have an unlocked bootloader, as without an unlocked bootloader your choices to fix the situation are much more limited.
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thanks for that, any advice on how to ota pls?
Can't find any instructions sorry.
riz157 said:
thanks for that, any advice on how to ota pls?
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You're welcome. Since I never do the OTA process, I always flash the full firmware zip (which you can't do with a locked bootloader), I can't advise any further than what I said about using the quick filter for the How To Guides. At least one or two of these threads should help you, although they may concentrate on doing so with rooting, as long as you ignore the root parts to the OTA method, you can still follow the instructions. You'll get better help to any questions in one of the threads that give OTA sideload instructions:
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You're welcome. Since I never do the OTA process, I always flash the full firmware zip (which you can't do with a locked bootloader), I can't advise any further than what I said about using the quick filter for the How To Guides. At least one or two of these threads should help you, although they may concentrate on doing so with rooting, as long as you ignore the root parts to the OTA method, you can still follow the instructions. You'll get better help to any questions in one of the threads that give OTA sideload instructions:
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much appreciated yes want to avoid root or unlocking the bootloader, why does google have it to make it so difficult to downgrade. Maybe take a leaf out of apple's book
To sideload you need USB debugging enabled. Reboot the device to recovery, either by powering off the device and holding power and volume up, let go of power when the phone vibrates, on the the android with an exclamation mark, tap on volume up I think it is. Or by typing in terminal
Code:
fastboot reboot recovery
since it's stuck in fastboot. In recovery tap on 'apply update from adb'
Then download the ota package from here.
Grab the platform tools (Google for it) and unzip it to c:\platform-tools if you're running windows. Open a terminal in the platform tools folder and type
Code:
adb sideload /path_to_ota.zip
Let it do its thing and you should be up and running. I wouldn't try to downgrade from the a13 beta, but you can try. Good luck!
riz157 said:
thanks for that, any advice on how to ota pls?
Can't find any instructions sorry.
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Just a few things. You don't need USB debugging enabled for OTA updates (you can't boot into Android to enable it anyway).
Just be aware that with OTA's, you can't downgrade - only reinstall the same version or upgrade, so you need to make sure you're on Android 13 to reinstall ota version 13 (recovery mode will tell you your version).
Here's a video to help with the ota update.
riz157 said:
I'm having issues trying to downgrade to Andriod 12 from andriod 13 beta 3.
1. I've opted out of Beta
2. Software update notification received
3. Click on download and install
4. After a couple of mins get error message couldn't update 'Installation problem'
The screen remains on the update screen.
What am i doing wrong please help?
Device state: locked
edit:actually now I'm stuck in Fastboot Mode
Phone keeps rebooting back to Fastboot mode
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Any luck with your device?
Alekos said:
Any luck with your device?
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No luck finally contacted Google who will have this sorted.
riz157 said:
No luck finally contacted Google who will have this sorted.
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What happened with the OTA updates? Did it complete? Getting the windows driver and fastboot/adb (platform-tools) to all work can be tricky..
what about the https:// flash.android .com/build/8151327?target=raven-user&signed=true Website?
jlede18 said:
what about the https:// flash.android .com/build/8151327?target=raven-user&signed=true Website?
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Flash.android uses fastboot, which requires the bootloader to be unlocked. User can't unlock it since Android won't boot..
I don't think I'll be flashing beta version again lol, too much hassle to downgrade.
In the end decided to send in to Google to repair.
I think they will give me a replacement instead of repairing it.
Did anyone notice any major bugs with android 13, can't say I did?
Alekos said:
What happened with the OTA updates? Did it complete? Getting the windows driver and fastboot/adb (platform-tools) to all work can be tricky..
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Decided against that, off to Google to fix
Alekos said:
Flash.android uses fastboot, which requires the bootloader to be unlocked. User can't unlock it since Android won't boot..
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Copy that. Would of probably just been easier to reflash the beta back save everything, unlock the bootloader and then flash android 12
jlede18 said:
Copy that. Would of probably just been easier to reflash the beta back save everything, unlock the bootloader and then flash android 12
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Yup, very easy to flash ota, but op didn't feel comfortable doing it unfortunately.
Might seem dumb but I used the web browser tool and flashed back to stock via that from 13 B3 it unlocks bootloader and flashes and re locks bootloader , back on stable 12 working fine then opted out of 13 beta
The way I did it was downloading the entire firmware from google and then changing the config to remove- w so your data doesn't get wiped. Then running the .su or .bat depending on your is. It worked for me. Cheers