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ROMs or hacks that allow trickle charging past 90%?

So it's already been established that after the EVO charges fully to 100% it then stops receiving a charge and runs off the battery before charge cycling again. All the while displaying 100%.
Has any effort been put into changing the way this operates? Seems like it'd be nice to leave the phone on a charger and when you take it off, it would actually be at 100% and not at some arbitrary percentage between 90% and 100%.

It's better for the battery life.It's really good option if you ask me.
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You mean make it so that the battery's status bar shows a realistic value once it stops taking a charge, even though it's still plugged in, right? Not actually changing the way it takes a charge. I'd be interested in seeing that happen.

Is that why when you unplug it, the first 5% or so disappear within minutes?

thegame3202 said:
Is that why when you unplug it, the first 5% or so disappear within minutes?
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Yup. This is why when you charge overnight the battery plummets right after.
*Currently Mobile*

Don't leave it plugged it after it reaches 100%. Problem solved.

triggert said:
Don't leave it plugged it after it reaches 100%. Problem solved.
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Valid point. Lol

There are some people who don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to unplug their phone. Like me.

annoying, but just unplug your phone when you do wake and plug it back in after about 10 seconds. let it finish fully charging while you get ready.

it's better for the battery though, case closed. Lenovo has been doing somehting similar w/ their laptops for years. It never charges the battery past like 97%, and when it does reach the top it stops charging until it falls below like 92 then recharges. HTC needs to loook out for the battery they already have enough flak from all of us for the last few years w/ every touch device they have had. We want more life, and they are giving it to us, just wish they could figure something out like lenovo, let it go down to mayeb 94 then charge up again perhaps.

it really isn't true, mine dumps 10% or so off the charger regardless of if it has been on the charger all night or 2 seconds after it turns green.

So I've done the:
1 charge to green
2 unplug
3 turn off
4 charge while turned off.....to green again.
And here are my honest results.
Boom........phone has 20% left after 16.5 hrs of moderate use (calling time total 1 hrs talk total, surf /post 1 hour total, load up 5 apps from the market, listen to audio clips on the speaker phone for almost an hour straight, podcast this morning for 30 min...and other randomness)
And still have 20% left. Going since 6:30 a to 10:30 p...........approximately 16 hrs equals 80% so about 3.2 hrs left to use before dead.
THIS EQUALS APPROX 19.2 HOURS OF MODERATE USE BEFORE RECHARGE NEEDED.
eat it Apple 4G . You can't even reliablly make calls let alone last that long without charging. My 3g never lasted that long. You still need a wall Apple we are truly mobile. If I was on the road I could (don't need to just yet) swap out for another battery.
I'm loving xda for all their brains helping me get the most out of this phone. Thanks to all.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using the XDA App.

The point here is that we shouldn't have to do the "charger circle jerk" to have 100% battery. I should be able to unplug it and have a full battery. Not 90%. I might need that 10% later on today, its accomplishing nothing sitting on my nightstand.
If the battery is toast after a year instead of a year and half, i don't care. I want a fully battery, not an almost full battery.

jasonziter said:
So I've done the:
1 charge to green
2 unplug
3 turn off
4 charge while turned off.....to green again.
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HTC advised a similar solution to the battery issue. I did this a few times and my battery lasted more than 15 hours with moderate use. Here's the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

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My phone used to do this, even after i followed all the little tips and tricks of playing hide and go seek with the charging cable and my phone.
Know how i solved it?
Bought one of those $10 Ebay 2 1500mAh TP2 Battery And Wall Charger bundles, now i dont use the OEM charger at all, the cable turned into a permanent USB cable on my comp and never sees the actual HTC charging unit it plugs into for AC power. I have 3 batteries and i rotate them in that little wall charger which actually charges them to 100%. Its also proven because if you take one of the batteries, put them in the phone and charge them until the green light comes on, supposedly to "100%" and then take the actual battery out and put it in the ebay wall charger, it will still charge for another 15-25 minutes. Charging it in the phone, as soon as i unplug, it almost instantly always drops to 90%... charging with the ebay wall charger, it will stay at 100% for a while before it falls off.
Below is the link to my thread which contains linkage, pics and info about the ebay bundle, others also claim the same issues and fixes in my thread. I mean for $10 bucks, does it really matter if it works for you or not? Its worth the shot and for me, it was a great investment.
Best of luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715739

I did this last night and I'm at 14 hrs and 57% left. If I have to charge like this to get great battery life that's fine. My iPhone 3gs would last half a day. So this is blowing it out of the water. And I can hold it with my left hand to talk.
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You can hold the 3gs with your left hand as well...

cpiddy said:
I did this last night and I'm at 14 hrs and 57% left. If I have to charge like this to get great battery life that's fine. My iPhone 3gs would last half a day. So this is blowing it out of the water. And I can hold it with my left hand to talk.
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Good stuff man, I finally just switched batteries after 21 hours.

[Q] How come the phone does not sleep when charging?

I'm still relatively new to the whole android platform. Evo being my first. Why does the evo not sleep when charging? I have the issue of rapid battery drain when I unplug the phone from 100-90 in a matter of minutes. This bugs me to no end. The only way I am able to get around that is to watch for the phone to ding 100 and immediately unplug it and turn it off.
I believe that, and (correct me if im wrong), if your phone is awake, it is being used to its full capacity all of the time. CPU is running and doing whatever it does that drains the battery like it does when its unplugged and being used by the user.
Since the phone doesn't trickle charge it stops charging at 100% until it gets down to ~90% (all the while still reporting that it is at 100%). It stands to reason that if the phone doesnt sleep while its on the charger, its using this cpu power and this is the culprit of the rapid battery drain, and to that end, the culprit of a lot of people's battery woes.
food for thought i guess. that's my take on it.

There are numerous discussions about the charging thing. Search, or at least Google. The most intriguing answer I ever saw to this was that the charging system was set up to protect the Li-Ion battery from degradation by not cramming it full of charge all the time. (The OP on that was a bit more technical, but you get the idea.)
If it bugs you that much, you could root your phone, flash a ROM that is undervolted and compatible with SetCPU, install that, and then set a profile up so your phone is underclocked when it's charging / charged.

I searched xda prior to posting specifically about sleeping while plugged in. My query isn't neccisarily about charging bit rather the sleep function and awake state of the phone while its pretending to charge.
I'm curious as to whether this is hardware related or not. For example when the phone reaches 100% and stops charge could the phone then actually begin to sleep. Unless its physically impossible for the phone to sleep while there is a usb chord plugged into it.
A little test I did with this over the past two days. At night I charged to full and took the phone off the charge and went to bed. I woke up and only lost about 4% all night and was able to use the phone on the way to work never going below 90%
The next night I left the phone on charge all night. Wake up take it off the charger and within 10 minutes I'm down to 92%
Keep in mind I'm not blaming charging on this. The first night lasted longer off of the charger than the night on the charger simply because the phone was allowed to sleep through the night.
I could be wrong

you can set the options it will say 'screen stay on while plugged up' or something to the like
or when you plug it in, just push your lock button (the top power key)

also you can get a brightness widget and put it on your home screen. that way you can still have your screen on while charging but it will be dimmed or whatever setting you set it too.
hope this helps!

Your screen being on vs off while charging does not factor into the asleep vs awake time of the phone.
for an example of this, a freshly rebooted phone on the charger, with the screen off for 5 minutes, will have an "up" time of 5 minutes and an "awake" time of 5 minutes.
this is true while the phone is plugged in and the screen is on or off.
simply put, your awake time on the phone is always going up as long as the phone is plugged in, double this with the fact that the phone stops charging at 100% and you have constant drain even when plugged in.

the phone shuts off at 100% to protect the battery. If you want your phone asleep then turn it off at night. that is the only way to put the phone to sleep try searching app market. Other then that the only other way is to push the power/lock button at the top

Mobile internet fail. Sorry double post

Battery Life - Significantly better if taken off charger immediately?

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but when I unplug my phone after charging it overnight, it gets to 90% or so in around 30 minutes without use, and goes down at a fast rate throughout the day. If I charge it and unplug it exactly when it hits 100%, I can use the phone fairly regularly and it will take around 2 hours to get down to 90%, and depletes from there very slowly. What's the reason for this, and is there any way I can get the same battery life when leaving the phone overnight?
Running CM7 with incredikernel, although my phone has been this way with countless ROMs and kernels.

pickleman77 said:
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but when I unplug my phone after charging it overnight, it gets to 90% or so in around 30 minutes without use, and goes down at a fast rate throughout the day. If I charge it and unplug it exactly when it hits 100%, I can use the phone fairly regularly and it will take around 2 hours to get down to 90%, and depletes from there very slowly. What's the reason for this, and is there any way I can get the same battery life when leaving the phone overnight?
Running CM7 with incredikernel, although my phone has been this way with countless ROMs and kernels.
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Short answer: Yes, you will see better battery life, and no there is not really any foolproof way to make it work if you leave it on the charger after it hits 100%.
Long answer: The Incredible has a battery saver feature built in that prevents over charging by cutting off charge to the battery when it hits 100% (actually 96% according to the people who figured all this out and are way smarter than I am) and doesn't let it start to recharge until it hits 80%. The reason, when you take it off in the morning, it drops so fast is because it is no longer actually at 100%, but has dropped to a legitimate ~90% since having hit the "100%" threshold.
There are some kernels out there that do allow "trickle charging" meaning they keep the phone at a legit 100%, but I don't think many have seen much success using them with the Incredible.
I get around this by charging a bit at night (using anywhere between 80-100%), leaving it off the charger until morning (I usually drop only around 4-5% per 8 hour night) and plug it back in while I get ready and eat breakfast. This usually puts me around 95-100% depending how much I was able to charge the night before and seems to be a much more simple way to handle it than bump charging in my opinion.

search first. It has been asked multiple times.

unreal2k said:
search first. It has been asked multiple times.
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I've seen similar topics regarding the quick drop from 100 to 90%, but the battery life as a whole seems to be much longer when it's taken off the charger immediately after it hits 100%. There's so many topics on here, I can't find exactly what I'm talking about, so it's difficult to judge. I'll definitely try the tip in the second post though. Thanks!

It will charge it up to 100% but it won't stay there if you keep it in. It'll let the phone die down to 90% then it'll keep it at that level.
So yes if you unplug it when it first hits 100% you will have a full 100% battery. If you let it sit for much longer than it'll be at 90%

It's been said that leaving it on charger for a while after fully charged messes with the battery meter.

I always bump charge. Charge it full while on then power off and charge till green lights on. Def gets me more batt life. Im getting 24+ hours on a single charge under normal usage with UD 3.1.1.
sent from my Ultimate 2.33 Incredible

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051&highlight=lying
That should help you out!

[Q] How long to charge first time

Hey,
Got my GN today. I didn't know if it was charging or not, so I turned it on a few minutes after the battery icon disappeared.
Not long after I turned it on, the battery was showing as full, but surely this can't be right? Any ideas how long I should leave it until I unplug it? I hope I haven't messed up the battery stats by turning it on.

Well I decided to just pull it out and see how it goes.
Can a mod delete this thread please?

Same for me. Could not even tell if it was charging so turned on after half an hour and battery full - perhaps delivered like that. Not exactly sitting on the shelves of CPW.

[Q] Battery History Question

Hello everyone,
Just got myself the HTC One m8 yesterday and am in love, but I have one small question.
When you go to power, and history to see the details of what your battery has been up to, is it normal for it to always basically reset when you either turn the phone of/reboot or plug a charger in, even for a short amount of time.
For example, I charged mine over night and took it off at 6am, went through the day and was keen to see how long I'd get from a single charge, get to now (9pm) and decide that I wanted to put some music on it, plug the usb into my laptop and transfer some tunes, unplug. Now when I go back to the history the graph just starts from 70% like its been reset and all the previous graph movements etc are gone. Attached picture is after unplugging the usb after being on for about 33min
I previously had a Samsung s4 and the graph would only reset once the phone was fully charged. If you plugged it in the graph would rise as far as you charged and continue giving information until it had been full recharged and then the graph would start again.
Is this normal for the M8 or is mine being silly?
Any help would be appreciated
Cheers
Jarrad

No solutions ?

kiwijar said:
No solutions ?
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Yes, it is normal for it to reset.
It is for power history since powering up, or since your last charge.

yeah, that's normal. And I don't see a way to change it to since "last full charge" to 100% My Moto Droid would always show since last charge from 100%. If you plugged it in for a little bit, it would show that time on the graph too as charging. I'm sure there's 3rd part apps you could use that would possibly be a better fit for you (Gsam battery monitor) is probably the top one I think. Also, "better battery stats". Gsam is pretty good and monitors all kinds of stuff too, wakelocks, cpu usage all that good stuff.