[Q] [4Qs] PJ46110 (S720b) (AU) vs PJ46100 (S720e) (UK) - HTC One X

Hi all,
I live in Australia and I bough the One X from UK, online, the model ID wasJ46100 and Model name:S720e, but I returned it with a full refund because it has the flickering screen issue.
I bought another one from a local store in Melbourne, Australia (outright) it was very obvious that the new one has no flickering issue, but the model ID isJ46110 and model name:S720b!
From the firmware thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551581) I notice that they are talking about the MIDJ4610000 while my MID isJ4611000 and because I unlocked the bootloader before saving the CID now I'm getting "none" as CID, so I *think* that I won't be able to upgrade my firmware until the S-OFF
None of the RUU here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543604) works for me!
My questions:
Q1- Is there any way I can upgrade to 1.28 (or higher) without waiting for the S-OFF?
Q2- Is there any reason makes me return my PJ46110 and buy PJ46100? as I have 30-day return period.
Q3- How can I find the RUU that works for my device (any version)? Note: RUU extraction method didn't work
Q4- Is it OK to flash a custom ROM based on higher firmware than my device? For example: flashing ARHD 3.0.0 (which is 1.28-based on my 1.26 device) (This example works fine, but what about any future releases)
Note: I got the model ID from the back of the device, and model name from the box's cover, and MID from "fastboot getvar mid".
Out Of The Topic NOTE: I notice that there was FCC logo on the PJ46100 (UK model) but not in the PJ46110 (AU model)!!

AlRokayan said:
Hi all,
I live in Australia and I bough the One X from UK, online, the model ID wasJ46100 and Model name:S720e, but I returned it with a full refund because it has the flickering screen issue.
I bought another one from a local store in Melbourne, Australia (outright) it was very obvious that the new one has no flickering issue, but the model ID isJ46110 and model name:S720b!
From the firmware thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551581) I notice that they are talking about the MIDJ4610000 while my MID isJ4611000 and because I unlocked the bootloader before saving the CID now I'm getting "none" as CID, so I *think* that I won't be able to upgrade my firmware until the S-OFF
None of the RUU here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543604) works for me!
My questions:
Q1- Is there any way I can upgrade to 1.28 (or higher) without waiting for the S-OFF?
Q2- Is there any reason makes me return my PJ46110 and buy PJ46100? as I have 30-day return period.
Q3- How can I find the RUU that works for my device (any version)? Note: RUU extraction method didn't work
Q4- Is it OK to flash a custom ROM based on higher firmware than my device? For example: flashing ARHD 3.0.0 (which is 1.28-based on my 1.26 device) (This example works fine, but what about any future releases)
Note: I got the model ID from the back of the device, and model name from the box's cover, and MID from "fastboot getvar mid".
Out Of The Topic NOTE: I notice that there was FCC logo on the PJ46100 (UK model) but not in the PJ46110 (AU model)!!
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A1 - You can't get OTA update without S-OFF even if you flash RUU because devices needs to have stock recovery and locked/re-locked bootloader. Also RUU is region dependent. So ANY RUU won't work until we have S-OFF.
A2 - IMO not a good idea to return the Aussie model and get the UK model unless you really have to and must get the OTA update.
A3 - I haven't seen any Optus or Vodafone RUU for Australia yet so you you will not get the 1.28 base via OTA until Optus or Vodafone releases them.
A4 - it is okay to flash custom ROM but you won't get any official updates until you bring your phone back to stock (stock recovery + re-locked bootloader and use RUU for your phone which is not out there yet if you have a Optus handset or Vodafone handset)
Having S-OFF we can make our device super CID which should work on any RUU once you have stock recovery and re-locked bootloader.

shadowboy23 said:
A2 - IMO not a good idea to return the Aussie model and get the UK model unless you really have to and must get the OTA update.
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So as soon as we have the S-OFF my PJ46110 can be used exactly as PJ46100?
I asked because I have had very bad experience with Samsung Galaxy S II I9100G which does't accept the I9100 (without the G) ROMs, and I'm afraid that I'll face the same thing here
shadowboy23 said:
A4 - it is okay to flash custom ROM but you won't get any official updates until you bring your phone back to stock (stock recovery + re-locked bootloader and use RUU for your phone which is not out there yet if you have a Optus handset or Vodafone handset)
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If it is OK to flash the custom ROMs without upgrading the firmware why the ROM developers always insist to upgrade the firmware before flashing?

AlRokayan said:
So as soon as we have the S-OFF my PJ46110 can be used exactly as PJ46100?
I asked because I have had very bad experience with Samsung Galaxy S II I9100G which does't accept the I9100 (without the G) ROMs, and I'm afraid that I'll face the same thing here
If it is OK to flash the custom ROMs without upgrading the firmware why the ROM developers always insist to upgrade the firmware before flashing?
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Like I said with S-OFF we can get super CID which basically we can debrand our phones or convert our phones to use the RUU we want.
Devs say that so the phone won't have glitches like battery drain or lags. Basically if you use latest firmware means better performance.

AlRokayan said:
So as soon as we have the S-OFF my PJ46110 can be used exactly as PJ46100?
I asked because I have had very bad experience with Samsung Galaxy S II I9100G which does't accept the I9100 (without the G) ROMs, and I'm afraid that I'll face the same thing here
If it is OK to flash the custom ROMs without upgrading the firmware why the ROM developers always insist to upgrade the firmware before flashing?
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I9100/i9100g is a different situation, they have different hardware inside and are effectively different phones.
I have the aus model too and am having no issues at all with custom rom (leedroid right now). The only major difference is that you wont get ota updates until optus / voda approve them. When we get super cid and soff you will be able to flash wwe ruu as soon as they are available.
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Super CID ? ?

M8 ul, HTC__001, 2.22.401.05
S-off, rooted, unlocked bootloader
If I super cid my handset does that mean I can use ANY RUU suitable for "international m8" even if the RUU has an older hboot and firmware ?
Currently on ARHD 11.1 and trying to work out best, and easiest, way to get back for stock for OTA "L" update when it comes.
Thanks
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I believe the super CID means you can install any RUU period - sort of like a skeleton key. It's then up to you to make sure that you are installing an appropriate version.
If you just need to go back to stock, however, you only need a CID for your carrier/region (or developer edition) and the appropriate RUU.
jshamlet said:
I believe the super CID means you can install any RUU period - sort of like a skeleton key.
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It won't allow you to "downgrade" or run an RUU with a lower hboot number. Although s-off will allow this.
To the OP, does a RUU for any international M8 even exist? AFAIK only US variants have RUUs. You will probably have to find your carrier's nandroid, and stock recovery to return to stock for OTA.
But if you are willing to flash custom ROMs, there will probably be custom ROMs based on Android "L" soon after it starts rolling out OTA. Possibly even faster than waiting for your carrier version.
redpoint73 said:
It won't allow you to "downgrade" or run an RUU with a lower hboot number. Although s-off will allow this.
To the OP, does a RUU for any international M8 even exist? AFAIK only US variants have RUUs. You will probably have to find your carrier's nandroid, and stock recovery to return to stock for OTA.
But if you are willing to flash custom ROMs, there will probably be custom ROMs based on Android "L" soon after it starts rolling out OTA. Possibly even faster than waiting for your carrier version.
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Will, more than likely, use mikes "version" of L when released. Main reason I want to get OTA update is so my firmware is updated for L.
My handset is not locked to any carrier, sim free UK handset.
Thanks
Edit, was just curious as to the benefits of super cid. I've got my own "complete" nandroid, no missing data, so as I was told by mr hofs yesterday all I need to do is flash one of his stock recoveries.
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Questions regarding factory unlocked AT&T HTC one m8

I bought a refurbished, factory unlocked HTC one m8 off eBay in February. I just got my hands on it last week. I live in India.
I have some experience with rooting the phone and installing custom rims. I'm currently using the HTC one m7 with ViperOne 8.0.0 on top.
I have a few questions that I need to find the answer to before I do anything on the m8.
1. What are the methods to s-off the phone?
Bootloader unlocked using htcdev
Hboot version is - 3.16
Running stock Rom 4.4.2, that I'm assuming comes with an at&t m8
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
3. Do I need to be looking at custom roms made specifically for the at&t version? Or can I flash any Rom built for the international version?
4. Is there a way to convert the phone to an international firmware/radio, etc. So I can flash Rom/mod meant for international version?
I'm not sure I explained my questions correctly, please ask if further info/explanation is required
thetearer said:
I bought a refurbished, factory unlocked HTC one m8 off eBay in February. I just got my hands on it last week. I live in India.
I have some experience with rooting the phone and installing custom rims. I'm currently using the HTC one m7 with ViperOne 8.0.0 on top.
I have a few questions that I need to find the answer to before I do anything on the m8.
1. What are the methods to s-off the phone?
Bootloader unlocked using htcdev
Hboot version is - 3.16
Running stock Rom 4.4.2, that I'm assuming comes with an at&t m8
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
3. Do I need to be looking at custom roms made specifically for the at&t version? Or can I flash any Rom built for the international version?
4. Is there a way to convert the phone to an international firmware/radio, etc. So I can flash Rom/mod meant for international version?
I'm not sure I explained my questions correctly, please ask if further info/explanation is required
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And you be flashing Viper again I assume.
You'll need to use Sunshine S-Off. It cost $25, but it is guaranteed to work. They run a diagnostic check to make sure, and only ask for the payment then.
Once you are S-Off, you can go superCID and flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU, or flash the same version firmware.
In your situation, I would run the RUU instead of just flashing the firmware. Just my opinion. You could probably just flash the firmware at that point. The RUU is always the safest method though.
xunholyx said:
And you be flashing Viper again I assume.
You'll need to use Sunshine S-Off. It cost $25, but it is guaranteed to work. They run a diagnostic check to make sure, and only ask for the payment then.
Once you are S-Off, you can go superCID and flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU, or flash the same version firmware.
In your situation, I would run the RUU instead of just flashing the firmware. Just my opinion. You could probably just flash the firmware at that point. The RUU is always the safest method though.
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I most probably will be flashing viperone
Though I might have multi Rom set up on it
Thanks for the answer btw!
Just one more question, what is superCID?
thetearer said:
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
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It depends on whether the bands needed to work on your carrier (3G and LTE, if applicable) are already supported by the AT&T version. If not, then you need to flash a radio that does support your carrier's bands.

HTC himaulatt?

I recently bought an HTC One (M9) 32Gb Factory Unlocked on eBay but when i put the phone in downlode mode i saw in description: htc himaulatt, i suppose is att carrier and it has bootloader locked, s-off and cid:11111111. Also the firmware is 3.35.617.12. This is the Developer Edition? Can i flash another Sense rom like ViperOne?
Any help please?
With supercid....you likely have an att variant phone that has been flashed with the latest OS....or I suppose it could have taken the latest OTA if the recovery and FW is stock...
Either way....you can flash viper....or any MM rom that supports the ATT network....
You are in pretty good shape for Modding....just remember to backup your device before doing anything to crazy...g
HC4Life said:
I recently bought an HTC One (M9) 32Gb Factory Unlocked on eBay but when i put the phone in downlode mode i saw in description: htc himaulatt, i suppose is att carrier and it has bootloader locked, s-off and cid:11111111. Also the firmware is 3.35.617.12. This is the Developer Edition? Can i flash another Sense rom like ViperOne?
Any help please?
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Hey, did you get any luck installing other roms? I have the same phone and it is "S-ON", I'd would give the rom that you have tried a try as well... let me know!
Hey guys,
I've got a m9 with the exact same condition, bootloader locked, s-off and cid:11111111, and firmware is 3.35.617.12. However, when i bought this off a seller online, he told me its brand new. (lied, by the looks of it)
I', not familiar with this whole flashing, ROM, SCID, s-off etc thing. But right now i've got a android security update, which werent allowed to proceed because it says i am not running official HTC software. Also my phone says its a test unit and is HTC's property (which i've read somewhere that says its due to the s-off thingy)
I only want my phone back to stock, and could update OTA.
Where do i start? i dont expect answers, but perhaps some guide as to which articles/threads to read? Its all quite confusing to me at the moment.
Cheers, CLee
Well, S-OFF basically means you can do what you want with your phone.
You can unlock your bootloader by typing "fastboot oem unlock" in your cmd.
Since your rom is x.x.617.x, you run the developer edition, that one is always himaulatt.
No lock, just dev edition.
I just got a HTC M9 and it also says himaulatt, but mine says S-ON, i can't find any information about this particular model.

Flash RUU U.S firmware on EU device

Hi ,
I have HTC 10 Europe with rom version 1.95.401.4
I tring to flash on my HTC 10 another firmware ,stock U.S firmware from HTC sources,(just want to get most updates fast)
I have been noticed that i can not change firmware beetween regions .
There is way to flash U.S Unlocked/Developer firmware on my device?
if so how can i do that ?
Thanks
Search for the de-branding thread for instructions. Need to purchase s-off for 25$ to do it.
Basically you need to be S-OFF. That is the only way to do it, even then it can be a pain in the ass. If the reason you're doing it is to try and update to Nougat, you're better off just waiting for it tbh. The ROMS for US will be specific for the carriers and types of radios they use over there. Europe will have differences and it may create problems for you (unless you are already in the US and for some reason aquired a non-US phone). There may even be small hardware diffferences between model numbers (US is 2PS65000 I believe, Europe is 2PS620000). I am S-OFF, fully stock, de-branded, unlocked, and have HTC WWE CID (HTC__001) after changing it from my carrier previously (H3G__001).
It also goes without saying, US doesnt always get updates first.
silegeek said:
Basically you need to be S-OFF. That is the only way to do it, even then it can be a pain in the ass. If the reason you're doing it is to try and update to Nougat, you're better off just waiting for it tbh. The ROMS for US will be specific for the carriers and types of radios they use over there. Europe will have differences and it may create problems for you (unless you are already in the US and for some reason aquired a non-US phone). There may even be small hardware diffferences between model numbers (US is 2PS65000 I believe, Europe is 2PS620000). I am S-OFF, fully stock, de-branded, unlocked, and have HTC WWE CID (HTC__001) after changing it from my carrier previously (H3G__001).
It also goes without saying, US doesnt always get updates first.
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Thanks for the answer.
Thoght it will be easy .
I will wait for the offical update ....

Asia 2.41.400.5 to America 3.16.617.2

Okay, so I'm pretty new to this but also comfortable with computers and such.
I bought an HTC 10 Unlocked on ebay and it turns out it's a 64GB Asian Unlocked model which apparently (according to frequencychecker has some bands deactivated. It came running Android 7.0 software ver 2.41.400.5 and when I went into download mode (holding down volume while powering on) it is telling me that it is superCID 11111111 2PS62000 and S-off.
So my question is, if I change the CID and MID to the appropriate values, preferably for the NA Unlocked, will I be able to flash to the latest NA revision 3.16.617.2?
I've seen in another post regarding an AT&T model that deleting modem data (through Fastboot?) and then flashing could work for those radios (I'm on T-Mobile as of last week). Is there a way to read what bands are enabled? I know that the chip is capable of 24 but depending on the region they are restricted. Would this even enable them or should I just find a different phone?
hi, i had bought a similar "HTC 10 XC, so with 64GB ram" just like yours... also S-Off, SuperCID & modded MID to 2PS6200. (came pre-installed with WWE Nougat firmware and stock ROM.
may i ask what is your original MID as stated on the back of your phone? mine reads: 2PS6500!
do you happen to know what was your original firmware on that phone? you said it's an asian-64GB version... how do you know it's not an us-64GB one?
reason why I am asking? every since i applied the official OTA to Oreo => My GPS is fully dead!!! it sees the satellites just fine, but all have zero signal-strength so it cannot lock any GPS anymore
thanks for your reply
kimba99 said:
hi, i had bought a similar "HTC 10 XC, so with 64GB ram" just like yours... also S-Off, SuperCID & modded MID to 2PS6200. (came pre-installed with WWE Nougat firmware and stock ROM.
may i ask what is your original MID as stated on the back of your phone? mine reads: 2PS6500!
do you happen to know what was your original firmware on that phone? you said it's an asian-64GB version... how do you know it's not an us-64GB one?
reason why I am asking? every since i applied the official OTA to Oreo => My GPS is fully dead!!! it sees the satellites just fine, but all have zero signal-strength so it cannot lock any GPS anymore
thanks for your reply
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There is no model number posted on the phone at all. Only IMEI, S/N, and P/N and I was unaware of a 64GB version that was made available stateside. Also, according to the S/N the phone was manufactured January 22, 2016 yet it came pre-installed with a much newer version of the OS.
IMEI.Info was able to determine that it's an HTC 10 but couldn't determine anything beyond that. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a NIB phone with SUPERCID.
coolshopp said:
I bought an HTC 10 Unlocked on ebay and it turns out it's a 64GB Asian Unlocked model which apparently (according to frequencychecker has some bands deactivated. It came running Android 7.0 software ver 2.41.400.5 and when I went into download mode (holding down volume while powering on) it is telling me that it is superCID 11111111 2PS62000 and S-off.
So my question is, if I change the CID and MID to the appropriate values, preferably for the NA Unlocked, will I be able to flash to the latest NA revision 3.16.617.2?
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Yes

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