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Quick review after having the Lumia 900 for 5 days...

I wanted to take the time to post a few pros and cons for those considering the device and answer some questions for those that have them. So here we go...
Pros:
- The build quality is absolutely superb; Nokia has always nailed this and the Lumia 900 doesn't leave anything to be desired.
- Antenna is strong. I went to some known problem areas and I had no drops. Typically Samsung and Nokia are the strongest in terms of reception quality. I'm glad I can experience Nokia antenna's in the states again!
- The clear black display technology lives up to all the hype. Outdoor visability is fantastic.
- Overall stability and speed is excellent, partly due to WP7, but much more zip than the Focus that I have also used.
- Speaker is strong and has decent range.
- Typical excellent Nokia voice quality, both for me and those I call.
- Battery life is excellent...although I find myself playing with the thing all day. Overall it holds up pretty well to the task.
- Front camera is excellent.
- Stylish if you are the stylish type!
Cons:
- The back 8MP camera is a letdown. I talked with a Nokia rep that said this was a known issue and that it will be fixed in a software push. I have read good things about the N9 camera so I expect this to be fixed. Will keep you guys posted.
- The bluetooth randomly disconnects and then reconnects. Not typically and issue but my bluetooth (Motorola Elite Silver) likes to talk to me and let me know when it disconnects and connects...so a little annoying! Might be a WP7 issue though as my Focus was never the best at bluetooth either.
- Although the speaker sounds great, its lowest volume setting is too loud. I often put some music on when I hit the sack, and it seems that the range of sound doesn't go low enough for a quiet room. The difference between 15 and 1 is negligible. Might not matter to some but I thought I would mention it.
Overall so far:
I am liking this phone more and more everyday. The looks, build quality, Display, and phone performance have been excellent. It feels nice having a solid, well built phone in my hands as opposed to the plastic-y Samsung models. The camera on the back disappoints me but the promise of a software fix eases my mind somewhat. I seriously believe if they can fix the camera we will have a perfect phone on our hands.
I will update as I discover new things I love or hate. If you have any questions I can answer them and I will try to do so in a timely fashion. I hope I could help some of you out!

Very informative post. Thanks for all of the great info! I was worried about the camera after checking out an AT&T sales reps Lumia 900 a few days ago. The pictures were all a little grainy to me. I really hope that a software update can resolve the issue. It seems like that's reasonable given that they are really hyping the 8MP Carl Zeiss lens.

I'd like to see some heavy testing on the battery. On full charge, us WPBench app and test battery. Thanks for your insight.
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wundrbread33 said:
I wanted to take the time to post a few pros and cons for those considering the device and answer some questions for those that have them. So here we go...
Pros:
- The build quality is absolutely superb; Nokia has always nailed this and the Lumia 900 doesn't leave anything to be desired.
- Antenna is strong. I went to some known problem areas and I had no drops. Typically Samsung and Nokia are the strongest in terms of reception quality. I'm glad I can experience Nokia antenna's in the states again!
- The clear black display technology lives up to all the hype. Outdoor visability is fantastic.
- Overall stability and speed is excellent, partly due to WP7, but much more zip than the Focus that I have also used.
- Speaker is strong and has decent range.
- Typical excellent Nokia voice quality, both for me and those I call.
- Battery life is excellent...although I find myself playing with the thing all day. Overall it holds up pretty well to the task.
- Front camera is excellent.
- Stylish if you are the stylish type!
Cons:
- The back 8MP camera is a letdown. I talked with a Nokia rep that said this was a known issue and that it will be fixed in a software push. I have read good things about the N9 camera so I expect this to be fixed. Will keep you guys posted.
- The bluetooth randomly disconnects and then reconnects. Not typically and issue but my bluetooth (Motorola Elite Silver) likes to talk to me and let me know when it disconnects and connects...so a little annoying! Might be a WP7 issue though as my Focus was never the best at bluetooth either.
- Although the speaker sounds great, its lowest volume setting is too loud. I often put some music on when I hit the sack, and it seems that the range of sound doesn't go low enough for a quiet room. The difference between 15 and 1 is negligible. Might not matter to some but I thought I would mention it.
Overall so far:
I am liking this phone more and more everyday. The looks, build quality, Display, and phone performance have been excellent. It feels nice having a solid, well built phone in my hands as opposed to the plastic-y Samsung models. The camera on the back disappoints me but the promise of a software fix eases my mind somewhat. I seriously believe if they can fix the camera we will have a perfect phone on our hands.
I will update as I discover new things I love or hate. If you have any questions I can answer them and I will try to do so in a timely fashion. I hope I could help some of you out!
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I got an hour yesterday with a Cyan 900 and 800. Both are great. I'm not a big picture taker, so I didn't see a problem with the camera. The concern for me was the weight. Yes, the 900 is a touch heavier than what I currently carry...Focus S. But, what was amazing was the balance. The phone fits and stays in my hand, like it should. Carrying the really light Focus S, I have dropped it a couple of times....the balance is off. Hand the same thing with the Motoroal Razr...though this was fixed with the Razr Maxx.
I was sold months ago on the WP7 OS. I only needed to find hte hardware to fit my likes. The 900 is it.
I also got to see, but not touch the White 900. The thing is purdy. REALLY purdy. If you want a white one, its worth the wait. I'm not willing to wait a few extra weeks. But if it was offered now, I'd be getting that. The black on White color combination and the impace with variouis screen themes.....oh man!!! not for everyone.....but....nice.

wundrbread33 said:
Cons:
- Although the speaker sounds great, its lowest volume setting is too loud. I often put some music on when I hit the sack, and it seems that the range of sound doesn't go low enough for a quiet room. The difference between 15 and 1 is negligible. Might not matter to some but I thought I would mention it.
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I noticed this as well. It is a bother... needs more range. To me, it should get whisper quiet before the sound disappears altogether.
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I also got to see, but not touch the White 900. The thing is purdy. REALLY purdy. If you want a white one, its worth the wait.
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I wanted a white one, but the cyan is sexy too. I also didn't want to wait, as I wanted to get the $100 connectivity issue credit (though I'm having no problem with LTE in STL.
I've just gotten the phone yesterday, so I'm still figuring things out. It's my first WP. LOVING the build and quality of the phone. Signal has been excellent. Connecting to my work wifi is amazingly fast and just WORKS, when it was a PITA with my android.
Some of my cons so far:
-The speaker volume that you mentioned.
-I want the status icons to stay and not disappear. I don't want to swipe to see them.
-Not being able to set custom alerts for text messages for my contacts. I want a different alert if my kids are texting me vs. a friend.
-This is probably me just being dumb, but how to you go back/forward in the browser?

alodar1 said:
I got an hour yesterday with a Cyan 900 and 800. Both are great. I'm not a big picture taker, so I didn't see a problem with the camera. The concern for me was the weight. Yes, the 900 is a touch heavier than what I currently carry...Focus S. But, what was amazing was the balance. The phone fits and stays in my hand, like it should. Carrying the really light Focus S, I have dropped it a couple of times....the balance is off. Hand the same thing with the Motoroal Razr...though this was fixed with the Razr Maxx.
I was sold months ago on the WP7 OS. I only needed to find hte hardware to fit my likes. The 900 is it.
I also got to see, but not touch the White 900. The thing is purdy. REALLY purdy. If you want a white one, its worth the wait. I'm not willing to wait a few extra weeks. But if it was offered now, I'd be getting that. The black on White color combination and the impace with variouis screen themes.....oh man!!! not for everyone.....but....nice.
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Somehow I missed the memo until yesterday that the white one is a gloss finish!! This makes m less excited for it and I was just wondering what you thought of its look?
More so than the look difference its the scratch and fingerprint difference that gives me pause
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This is my first WP. Overall it's nice, but resolution is a serious let down. I like to browse the web on my phone and the text is just hideous.

nextonline said:
This is my first WP. Overall it's nice, but resolution is a serious let down. I like to browse the web on my phone and the text is just hideous.
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So you'll be sending yours back and getting the Galaxy Nexus or the Razr Maxx??
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bmc24 said:
Somehow I missed the memo until yesterday that the white one is a gloss finish!! This makes m less excited for it and I was just wondering what you thought of its look?
More so than the look difference its the scratch and fingerprint difference that gives me pause
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You know, I didn't pay that much attention to that detail. I usually don't care about the glass finish. NO matter what finish you have, there's something that doesn't work out. So, if I got the white, the glass or matte would not be an impact on my decision. Though, a matte white...might not be that attractive...hmmm...didn't think of that...

nextonline said:
This is my first WP. Overall it's nice, but resolution is a serious let down. I like to browse the web on my phone and the text is just hideous.
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Have you turned on "desktop version" vs. "mobile version" in IE preferences? It looks much better in the full version. Though of course it takes things longer to load.

alodar1 said:
So you'll be sending yours back and getting the Galaxy Nexus or the Razr Maxx??
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You know, I didn't pay that much attention to that detail. I usually don't care about the glass finish. NO matter what finish you have, there's something that doesn't work out. So, if I got the white, the glass or matte would not be an impact on my decision. Though, a matte white...might not be that attractive...hmmm...didn't think of that...
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My worry is that the gloss finish will be much easier to damage than the matter. I also Ike the understated look of the matte. I'm not eligible for upgrade til may so u will get some hands on before purchase but right now I'm leaning toward a black one with a case.
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bmc24 said:
My worry is that the gloss finish will be much easier to damage than the matter. I also Ike the understated look of the matte. I'm not eligible for upgrade til may so u will get some hands on before purchase but right now I'm leaning toward a black one with a case.
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I'm thinking of getting this case. That way I'll have some white (which will contrast nicely with the blue), but if the white gloss sucks or gets scratched, it's just a case.
http://www.case-mate.com/Nokia-Lumia-900-Cases/Case-Mate-Nokia-Lumia-900-Barely-There-Cases.asp

bmc24 said:
My worry is that the gloss finish will be much easier to damage than the matter. I also Ike the understated look of the matte. I'm not eligible for upgrade til may so u will get some hands on before purchase but right now I'm leaning toward a black one with a case.
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Easier to damage cause it's glossy so a bit less grippy? Also wouldn't the white finish hide fingerprints better than black matte?
Also having the phone in white tricks the eye into believing it's bigger than say black. So a white 900 will be even bigger than it already is lol

Oh goodness, now this is something that really bothers me. One volume, WP7, really? You mean if I'm listening to media, but I want my ringtone/alert volume low, this is impossible? No separate media volume? Not to mention not being able to have a different volume for phone calls and texts. I'm sitting here at work trying to listen to music over headphones, and have to annoy my coworkers with my text and email notifications? Am I missing something?

jettrue said:
Oh goodness, now this is something that really bothers me. One volume, WP7, really? You mean if I'm listening to media, but I want my ringtone/alert volume low, this is impossible? No separate media volume? Not to mention not being able to have a different volume for phone calls and texts. I'm sitting here at work trying to listen to music over headphones, and have to annoy my coworkers with my text and email notifications? Am I missing something?
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I tootally agree with you. This may be one of the areas that WP7 's simplification leads to frustration.
BTW for all of those talking about the white phone, on the Verge mobile netcast, Vlad mentioned that the HTC One X was a matte finish and noticed that his jeans' dye rubbed onto the phone. I think the gloss is probably to prevent color absorption.

Insert_here said:
Easier to damage cause it's glossy so a bit less grippy? Also wouldn't the white finish hide fingerprints better than black matte?
Also having the phone in white tricks the eye into believing it's bigger than say black. So a white 900 will be even bigger than it already is lol
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Well the gloss has been described as a more enamel feel to it. Anytime I have had a shiny device like that it is prone to get scratched really easy. They are both carbonate bodies but the gloss finish makes me think the way the device would react to sharp objects more harshly.
I will admit I don't know exactly how to describe what I am trying to say here haha. But nonetheless it's something I hope to be wrong about but we shall see. Also the gloss finish will reflect more light thereby making fingerprints far more obvious. My favorite part about the matte finish compared to gloss ones is its low reflectability. Hopefully I'll get my hands on it and find this is all much to do about nothing but I was just hoping someone had more insight into this matter.
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epidemike said:
I tootally agree with you. This may be one of the areas that WP7 's simplification leads to frustration.
BTW for all of those talking about the white phone, on the Verge mobile netcast, Vlad mentioned that the HTC One X was a matte finish and noticed that his jeans' dye rubbed onto the phone. I think the gloss is probably to prevent color absorption.
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While that sounds like it could be true it still doesn't kill my worries haha. If that's true that seems like a major oversight on the design team's part.
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jettrue said:
Oh goodness, now this is something that really bothers me. One volume, WP7, really? You mean if I'm listening to media, but I want my ringtone/alert volume low, this is impossible? No separate media volume? Not to mention not being able to have a different volume for phone calls and texts. I'm sitting here at work trying to listen to music over headphones, and have to annoy my coworkers with my text and email notifications? Am I missing something?
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If you have headphones on it should be playing only through the headphones. At least that's what my focus does. Also you could just put it on vibrate and it will not sound off. Hope this helps!

Light bleed in bottom of screen from the capacitive buttons

Has anyone noticed that there is light bleed from the three capacitive buttons into the bottom of the screen.
Like three tiny spotlights flashing into the bottom of the AMOLED screen.
It is more evident when in a completely dark screen in low light conditions.
Does your Lumia 900 exhibit this scenario ?
Lumia 900 White UK version

I’m pritty sure that it happens with all the Lumia 900's
My White Lumia 900 even has bleeding at the top by the sensor,
but this only happens when the screen is totally off and the buttons are lit up when i see the bleeding white light from them (when the phone battery is totally dead and you plug it in is mainly when i saw it) there is a tiny gap between the screen and the black of the buttons that lets the white light from the buttons seep through

Thanks for the reply and information intwischa.
I have exchanged my initial handset and the light bleed is slightly less on the new replacement but it is still there!!
A huge oversight by Nokia if I may say so!

Best phone ever to work in full sunlight. But I guess you shouldn't look at the screen in total darkness cause you will be totally bummed by some light bleed. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
I will be sure to avoid total darkness situations. Still loving my "original" L900, even with some perceived imperfections.
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I have stayed off the thread because I was wondering just WHAT someone might be doing with their phone in the dark
Im sure some people will find this a big deal but I have found very few "reasonably priced" electronic devices with a screen without *some* type of light bleed at an edge.

Screen bleed?
I don't see any screen bleed on my device. Then again, I'm coming from and LG G2X which had significant screen bleed at all four corners. Maybe LG desensitized me to anything that isn't grossly obvious. I also haven't noticed my Lumia rebooting a dozen times a day or overheating in my pocket.
This is a great phone! So glad I made the switch from android to wp!

jimski said:
Best phone ever to work in full sunlight. But I guess you shouldn't look at the screen in total darkness cause you will be totally bummed by some light bleed. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
I will be sure to avoid total darkness situations. Still loving my "original" L900, even with some perceived imperfections.
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Indeed this phone has got the best screen for bright sunshine scenarios.
However, the light bleed from the backlight of the capacitive buttons into the bottom of the screen is just poor design!
One expects better internal design from Nokia especially since they are the same company which designed this great Clear Black technology

I was slightly disappointed by the display of my Lumia 900. Indeed the capacitive buttons leak a lot of light into the bottom of the screen but thankfully to Windows, I guess, those are off most of the time. My last Nokia was E7 and that display was absolutely awesome. Excellent visibility, great color reproduction and real 100% blacks (unlike most Samsung AMOLED displays I have seen), no light leaks or purplish tint or anything. I'm yet to see a display that's better in any aspect, except resolution, than E7's.
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I had this on my original whiteLumia. But, haven't noticed it at all on my second white one that I exchanged for the purple tint issue. Guess that's one of those "variances" that occur during manufacturing.

can you guys take photos? my amaze that i just sold had horrible bleed to the point i had to turn off the lights lol

My Nokia has the same problem, although it's not much of a problem since I usually use it outdoors. Love the ClearBlack display though...

hx4700 Killer said:
I have stayed off the thread because I was wondering just WHAT someone might be doing with their phone in the dark
Im sure some people will find this a big deal but I have found very few "reasonably priced" electronic devices with a screen without *some* type of light bleed at an edge.
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I'm thinking the same thing. People will generally complain about anything...especially when they are Anonymous . They will want the performance of a Porsche on a Ford Fiesta. They will want the beauty and reliability of a Rolex on a Roldex. They want the convienence of a paid app, on a free app.
Anything assembled by man or machine, has its flaws. Light Bleed is one of many complaints that is important to only a hand ful of people here. I'm sure if I go over my phone with a microscope, I will find something to disagree with...Price doesn't matter in the quality of things...from iPhone, to Android to WP, to Blackberry. Each one as something. If you look long enough, and hard enough, you'll find something, anything, even Waldo...
If it bothers you enough, return it. Otherwise, I can NOT believe Manchester City actually won something !!!

My 900 has ZERO light bleed. Even with the screen completely black and in a dark room. None whatsoever.
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jaj324 said:
My 900 has ZERO light bleed. Even with the screen completely black and in a dark room. None whatsoever.
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May I ask, is your Lumia the USA or the Europe version ?
What colour ?

US, black, at&t
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How warm is your warm display? (colour)

Just got a One X and thankfully all the reported 'defects' don't seem to be there. However the screen colours are far too warm. The biggest problem is with flesh tones looking very reddish. Its best illustrated by taking a picture of my hand with the camera, which shows up very red indeed. However if I import the picture to my PC its acceptable. My screen is Acer which supposedly runs colder than Sharp and Sony, but thats not my case.
Should I exchange my unit? I have 48hours to return the phone with no questions asked. Its perfect otherwise and I heard that the warmness disappears over time. If true, how long does it take for the warmness to normalize. Also is there a software available now or in the near future that would solve this (rom, mod, etc.)?
PS> I'm still on 1.28.415.9 because I haven't received an update yet.

I just tried using "Screen Adjuster" from the Play Store, but the results were horrible. I really need to know whether the warmness subsides overtime because otherwise I have a perfect unit and don't wanna gamble it away for a creaky, ripply, dead pixel unit.

I passed by the store and compared my phone to the two display models and a sealed unit. All three had the excessive red hue warm colors as mine. When I say excessive I mean very excessive. Its best viewed with the Mirror application. It almost makes me look like I'm fluorescent pink Almost the color of this icon.
Someone please chime in. How red do you look in the Mirror app?

I'm begging here, someone please acknowledge my existence and answer my simple question. Does the Mirror app make you look red/pink like your are badly sunburned?
SOMEONE PULLLLLEAHSE ANSWER

Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...

DanRZ said:
Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...
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Thanks so much for answering me. Vascularised is a great way of putting it. I can almost see the blood flowing through my capillaries. I hope this is just a software issue. Outside in daylight its much much better.

HTC should have added a light in front panel.
And after "vascularised" it has a litlle "drunk" effect.
After ZombieBooth, HTC just invented DrunkBooth ...

I tested the front camera some more using Skype. It seems that there are two reasons for the red hue. The camera software is messed up, and so is the screen itself. When using Skype the image from the front camera looks very red on the phone, but it doesn't look as bad on the PC (although still red). This leads me to believe that the camera software is not calibrated, and the screen further compounds the problem. I'm hoping 1.29 update will help a bit.

I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up

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I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up
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Well as far as I'm concerned I have not seen, or heard of, any One X unit that doesn't have this problem. So far I have personally examined 6 phones that have this problem (all worse than my phone). Also three XDA users have also confirmed this (one on this thread and two in other threads). I have yet to see or hear that a One X exists out there which does not have an extremely red hued front camera.
Until someone confirms otherwise, it seems to me to affect ALL One X's.

In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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thom109 said:
In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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Thanks that helps a bit. I'm sure HTC will have to fix up the camera software in an upcoming update because this is just unacceptable.

Backlight bleed anyone??

I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?

No backlight bleeding like my old nexus had. I haven't noticed any problems with mine , they really upped the quality with that $30 increase from last year
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Chronzy said:
I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...

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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...
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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...

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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...
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i think google's letting asus too much on the free rein. there's been better quality control on the previous nexuses, apart from asus. do try to chck out how sammy made the n10. that's what we can compare with n7 (both) and cry and curse asus.
seeing all that, I'm waiting for the next batch to come out, since I don't have enough reaources to replace a device once bougjt, so I just won't be taking any chances.

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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.

there is backlight bleed top center
usmaak said:
My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally

abacus0101 said:
I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally
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Agree. I have my 32GB that's going back for different reasons. I'll just wait it out and watch everyone here, to see when these issues are minimized. Screen's amazing. Way better than anything else I've ever seen.

usmaak said:
My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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as I said, google's probably giving asus free rein too much, and asus is putting all that axe on our necks. They should be considerate about quality, because quality only is what matters. see all the good specs going down the drainage.

Mine only has it at the top like you, but its only noticeable during really dark scenes in a poorly lit area. Most IPS display will show some sort of light bleed. Speaking from experience, if its not one thing, then its another. Everything else is excellent. No dead pixels, popping sounds from the speaker, etc, etc. I swapped my N4 3 times before I got a unit that I thought was pretty good. And even then, its still not perfect since it too has some light bleed. If it really bothers you, then prepare yourself for what could possibly be a goose chase. :good:

Irregular Display Lighting (with Pictures)

I have a visible light strip at the top of the display... what should I do? I say to myself I don't care but it annoys me because I keep noticing it.
Here pictures, please check them out:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive

That's light bleed

do you have it too? should I send it back or do all lg g4 have this?

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Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?

ruzkay said:
Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.

siraltus said:
That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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I see thanks, I had some light bleed (I knew what it is didn't remember the english word LOL) on my N4 too but nowhere near this and it didn't seem like a solid strip more random...
Sent it back... hope I got luck with the next one, and hope Amazon is quick my current phones battery is pretty much dead...