PLEASE HELP - - -Is anyone else experiencing these display problems? &/or have possible solution(s)??
The over the air update seems to have completely cured my data connectivity problems : - }
But my unstable display problems persist and are driving me nuts - Considering a return.
(ON A SIDE QUESTION - - - Has anyone found an alternative browser, such as opera mini, which works on the N L 900? Opera Mini was very adequate on the old WM 6.5 Tilt 2)
(I) In Internet Explorer all pages seem to default to a really tiny type - Absolutly unreadable.
While the type can be enlarged with a 2 finger spread, the increase is very jerky / uncontrolable, and worse yet, moves / recenters the display unpredictibly. Then, with any movement of the phone (even without finger touches on the screen) it resizes, usually reverting back to tiny. Changing the page also resets to unreadable / tiny, and recenters it. So the problem is the web pages are not readable, and any luck in getting it re-sized is almost immediately defeated.
Another aspect of the problem is that with any faint or slight movement, the display page rotates almost at random between portrait & landscape. This also messes up zooming, etc. as mentioned above . . .
This problem also makes it impossible to use the phone to read a newspaper (such as NYTimes.com) because the dynamic resizing does not allow me to easily scan parts of the page to get where I want, and then achieve / maintain adequate zooming to get the whole "column" visible at once.
(II) in Microsoft Excel, a similar problem occurs with viewing & editing spreadsheets. But in Excel the random rotate problem is much more severe. Another aspect is that the zooming / sizing of the spreadsheet page is not stable when moving / panning from one part of the sheet to another.
Together these drive me nuts. Any ideas as to a systemic solution, or do you guys think it is just a fluke of some bad hardware??
Comments appreciated,
Thanks,
Artzznyzz
When reading web pages, double tap to zoom on the text block. A lot of times that's good enough so you don't have to manually zoom.
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It almost sounds like you have a hardware problem. My screen is pretty stable. The issue I run into is that certain pages, xda included, will sometimes break apart and be unreadable. parts of the screen start to duplicate over and over all over the screen... I've already re-flashed the stock ROM, and applied the 12084 update, but it's still happening. It never happened on my Samsung Focus.
Yea I have the same problem, its like the browser is having problem rendering/displaying the content, I usually have to reboot the phone to fix it. Anyone else having the same problem? Is it ie9 on WP? Its really annoying, I get it mostly w xda pages.
But my Focus with Mango and IE9 doesn't do it. I notice it most on XDA, just because this is my most visited page on my phone, but it happens on other pages too.
I feel like I had this problem once on xda but I can't seem to replicate it. I have noticed a couple of other sites that render really weirdly though, for example shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale renders the page titles between the header image and the body in absolutely gigantic font. IE9 on the desktop renders it correctly too, which is what makes this even stranger.
Helps, although not enough.
There was that setting in previous versions, something about Overview. Unchecking it allowed the text to show up much larger....not available in this version...
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Yea I have the same problem, its like the browser is having problem rendering/displaying the content, I usually have to reboot the phone to fix it. Anyone else having the same problem? Is it ie9 on WP? Its really annoying, I get it mostly w xda pages.
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I can third or fourth the screen fragmentation, duplication issue. It seemed not to occur very early on in the firmware life of the phone, but has since made browsing an obnoxious chore. Might it have something to do with cache management on IE9 part with these more difficult to render sites? Ive loaded sites properly upon first visit, only to experience the issue on most subsequent visits.
Also, to comment on the OP's problem, I have read from multiple sources that IE9 for Windows Phone 7 will convert some sites' text size data to pixel values, which causes certain page issues when zooming.
I just reread this OP. I didn't realize we had an over the air update. Hope I didn't miss mine...
Concur ran into a problem yesterday browsing XDA forums on a wifi connection. Screen went 'white'. Scroll bars were still there but no visible text. Selecting other web sites turned up the same result -- clearly the pages loaded (background color changed, scroll bars, loading progress bar complete). Turning the device completely off was the only cure. Have only run into the problem once... unable to reproduce. Browses XDA just fine now.
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Hi all,
I think this came up briefly in the “Flaws and annoyances thread” and I believe someone has started a post in the evo forum, but I thought it would be worth just mentioning it to notify the odd few in here.
There’s been a bit of news flying around about the Sense bookmarking widget creating little JPEG files and saving them to .bookmark_thumb1 on your SD card. The issue seemingly being that it doesn’t only take screenshots of your bookmarks; from time to time it records images of general sites you’ve visited. Since they aren’t stored on the phone memory, they won’t be removed by a factory reset – they also aren’t removed by clearing the all your internet history.
I’ve just had a look on my own desire and, sure enough, it’s got odd little snapshots of lots of webpages I’ve visited since I’ve had the phone (I didn’t count before I deleted them but it was about 2MB worth of tiny JPEG images). Any password entry pages it captured did not have any input in any of the fields (the password info would not have been displayed for me anyway).
I’m not particularly worried because I don’t really do anything super-secret with my phone browser, but it may be somewhat alarming for many people.
Does make it awfully tempting to explore other phones though =D
Apologies if this is a duplicate post / would be better placed somewhere else; please point out any daft mistakes I’ve made in describing the behaviour.
Cheers all.
Original article at boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/16/browser-privacy-htc-senseui/
EDIT: The consensus seems to be that this should only be happening for bookmarked and most visited sites. After clearing that directory and starting from scratch, that seems to be the most likely explanation.
I think this has been blown all out of proportion.
BGR is saying it is privacy issue, but since these screenshots are not being broadcast all over the internet, I don't see it that way.
Yes, I agree that if you clear your browser history it should clear down all those thumbnails, but since I generally keep my phone on me at all times, my privacy is not affected.
If I was selling my phone, I'd be factory resetting the device and clearing down any SD card that I'm selling with the phone anyway.
Regards,
Dave
It's a flaw. I get it since purchasing too and have to keep deleting all the images. Not just bookmarks, every other webpage I've visited is pictured there at least 2-3 times.
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I used the HTC browser only for a short time (switched to Dolphin HD).
I checked my SD card today and the thumbs were still saved there so I deleted them. No big deal (as foxmeister already said).
The only thing I don't understand why does the browser take these screenshots in the firs place?
I agree completely with you on the size of the issue. I scrub all my stuff before it leaves my possession; I also never leave my phone alone and don't really keep any sensitive data on the SD card.
Thought it might be worth mentioning for the odd few that would benefit.
I'm still unclear on what it decides to store and when (I understand updating the bookmarks, but the seemingly random ones are puzzling, maybe multiple windows?).
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The only thing I don't understand why does the browser take these screenshots in the firs place?
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Presumably for the bookmarks widget, and the previews you get when you switch browser windows.
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Dave
This isn't random pictures. Obviously the ones you bookmark...that's a given. The others are times you have multiple windows open. If open a new window/tab, a picture is taken of the previous page you were on so that a preview will be shown when you want to switch between windows.
BGR and Engadget have blown it all out of proportion by suggesting it's not deletable data. Why on earth would my bookmarks be cleared with my history? Bad journalism.
The others are times you have multiple windows open. If open a new window/tab, a picture is taken of the previous page you were on so that a preview will be shown when you want to switch between windows.
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Is that officially stated as the working anywhere, or your personal estimate?
This isn't how it is working on mine at all. I've just opened/closed 4 windows of sites, switched through them a few times, then loaded another two pair of 4 on them in the past 3 mins. Not a single screenshot was added except for three of the homepage each window opened with at the beginning (Google).
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This isn't how it is working on mine at all. I've just opened/closed 4 windows of sites, switched through them a few times, then loaded another two pair of 4 on them in the past 3 mins. Not a single screenshot was added except for three of the homepage each window opened with at the beginning (Google).
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I wonder if it is something to do with the browser being killed. Perhaps if you open/close windows in a browser session, it does delete the screenshots. However, if you open a few windows and then go back to the home page, Android may at some point kill the browser leaving the screenshots behind.
I'd imagine that something similar might happen if you mounted the SD card whilst in a browser session.
Regards,
Dave
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Is that officially stated as the working anywhere, or your personal estimate?
This isn't how it is working on mine at all. I've just opened/closed 4 windows of sites, switched through them a few times, then loaded another two pair of 4 on them in the past 3 mins. Not a single screenshot was added except for three of the homepage each window opened with at the beginning (Google).
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It seems you may be right...I'm finding it's the "Most Visited" sites that it's saving the thumbnails for. It keeps two versions of each pick, which coincide with the two different views in the most visited tab.
Is that officially stated as the working anywhere, or your personal estimate?
This isn't how it is working on mine at all. I've just opened/closed
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It seems you may be right...I'm finding it's the "Most Visited" sites that it's saving the thumbnails for. It keeps two versions of each pick, which coincide with the two different views in the most visited tab.
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It's multi tab and bookmarks for me. Engadget won't admit they're wrong either lol.
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All very good points.
It seems you may be right...I'm finding it's the "Most Visited" sites that it's saving the thumbnails for. It keeps two versions of each pick, which coincide with the two different views in the most visited tab.
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You know, after nearly a day testing/observing, that is also what I've understood. Two thumbnail views for the most visited sites are saved. Only for these sites. One is for the "Most Visited" section previews and one the preview of that window when switching between windows.
The only flaw I deem in it is the endless saving without delete. I've had the browser open in the background days on end many times, and always quit through the back button after clearing history/cache. Such images remain undeleted. I don't have any security/privacy concerns with it. Both me and my better half use the phone, just as I might use hers at times (she watches vids and takes pics on mine, not her iPhone ).
BTW, anyone noticed that after clearing history/cache you can still go through all the pages you've visited through the Back button?
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Ah, I hadn't considered the most visited sites; that most likely explains the large number of pictures I had (I rarely multi-tab or bookmark).
Certainly seems to be the case now I've started from scratch and have been watching closely.
always makes me chuckle, the term "sensitive data", I take it we mean legal, banking documents etc? only? I bloody doubt it given that this is a forum full of geeks
"da intarwebs is for pRon"
just kidding fellas, no offence....
I used the HTC browser only for a short time (switched to Dolphin HD).
I checked my SD card today and the thumbs were still saved there so I deleted them. No big deal (as foxmeister already said).
The only thing I don't understand why does the browser take these screenshots in the firs place?
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I hope dolphin is better with your private data than opera, read what they do with your phone number and your history to finance there work!
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Its a pain in the arse on my bookmarks since it usually saves a snapshot of the next page I visit on a bookmarks thumb for instance my YM bookmark shows a snapshot of this forum.. so its just confusing when I'm trying to quick select my bookmarks.
I dont care about history, its my phone I can do what I like with it.
One thing I really liked about my Nexus One was when I was on a web page and I zoomed text, it would autofit it (left to right) on the screen.
That way if I needed to make the text a little bigger I could in order to easily read it.
This didn't work 100%, it was more like when the text was in it's own table cell. But that's still 90% of the text out there.
With WP7, I notice this feature does not exist. Some pages are quite hard to read (even landscaped) when they fit.. and shifting left to right for each line is a bugger.
Anyone heard if this is going to be added to the browser functionality?
android is the unique os that does this. even on iOS, it performs the same as WP. if you want this feature, i'd suggest recommending it to windowsphone via twitter, or on social.microsoft.com, but i doubt you'll get much response about it apart from "we will pass it on".
Text reflow, nope haven't heard a word about it.
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What? WM6.5 did this just fine on my HD2 also.
I'm not entirely sure if it's something we want brought over though. Sure, it is a great feature for some webpages, but IMO the majority displays fine (and readable) as is. I feel text reflow may cause more problems than it's worth in terms of browser performance. WP7 may not seem to load as fast as e.g. Android but if you are looking for information buried half way down the page I often find you get to it faster on WP7 anyhow - it doesn't seem to suffer from the same rendering lag as the droids. If this is directly connected to reflow or not I don't know, but I have a feeling it may be.
you would of had it on your wm6.5 through opera? i was more referring to natively.
but yea i agree with you, most of the time reflow isn't needed.
as the title says, anyone who has upgraded Mango beta 2 to RTM 7720. Have you noticed anything different? Speed, features, stability etc.? lets use this thread to post our experiences (still havent done it yet, but will report once i do)
cheers
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thanks for putting up this thread, im looking for some differences as well.
I haven't upgraded yet to the leaked mango, it is tempting, but I`d rather wait for the official rom for my trophy.
from what I heard the 16bit color banding is still present, and no hidden wifi connectivity, and IE9 HTML5 performance is not yet optimized to 50fps due to the generic drivers used by the rom, instead of using the drivers specifically designed to the particular device, and this [maybe] why the 7720 is still in carrier/OEM testing.
The only so far is the maps, that were not working in brazil.
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The only so far is the maps, that were not working in brazil.
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By maps do you mean turn by turn navigation? I haven't really tried this in 7712 (btw im back to nodo 7392) all i know is that it can route locations and stuff, but not voice navigation.
Some says TBT is region dependent like Bing LS and Audio.
I dont know im not really seeing what the differnce is either they could have at least let you change alert tones you can set parameters for wifi connections other than that unless im missing it not even seeing what the update was for.
i haven't really seen anything different from beta 2
- not for retail gone.
- transitions when switching pages seems smoother
- linkedin contacts now showing on people hub live tile
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- not for retail gone.
- transitions when switching pages seems smoother
- linkedin contacts now showing on people hub live tile
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thanks for the feedback! lets keep them coming once we see something new
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IE9 now earns 141 points (7712 - 140) in HTML5 Test
By maps i mean i couldnt even find a place here. Now I can
But no turn by turn..
I found the HTC Apps in Marketplace is now working.
only found "not for resale" disapears
Exiting Bing Vision with the back button no longer freezes for a second as it did in 7712. Now there is an animation of the Bing page sliding down.
People Hub is changed. Twitter integration is now completely functional, so is LinkedIn as mentioned. Contacts show up and auto link where able to. Instead of having to go to individual posts on different services, you can now click the post and pivot to see the replies on different services. Phone is faster. Keyboard bug is fixed where it wouldn't automatically capitalize the first word of texts in messaging hub. Lock screen delay is gone on my HD7. Battery calibration seems a little more accurate, at least for me. Before, if you hit the search button in the Phone to search contacts, but backed out, the bottom buttons wouldn't reappear, this is fixed. Bluetooth is more consistent for me, it doesn't drop, it did on the previous build, often. Tiles no longer "bleed" and flicked through lockscreen for me. I know I found more fixes and features, but this is all I remember off the top right now.
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People Hub is changed. Twitter integration is now completely functional, so is LinkedIn as mentioned. Contacts show up and auto link where able to. Instead of having to go to individual posts on different services, you can now click the post and pivot to see the replies on different services. Phone is faster. Keyboard bug is fixed where it wouldn't automatically capitalize the first word of texts in messaging hub. Lock screen delay is gone on my HD7. Battery calibration seems a little more accurate, at least for me. Before, if you hit the search button in the Phone to search contacts, but backed out, the bottom buttons wouldn't reappear, this is fixed. Bluetooth is more consistent for me, it doesn't drop, it did on the previous build, often. Tiles no longer "bleed" and flicked through lockscreen for me. I know I found more fixes and features, but this is all I remember off the top right now.
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also switching orientation has a different effect especially the people tab
i updated to 7720 yesterday and i think the lock screen is a bit different, the time and data shows up like an smooth animation (fade in) effect. i dont know if this was in 7712???
The time and date fade out has been in place since NoDo
I've just noticed it being a little smoother and boot up showing "not for Resale" is gone. It broke my sideloading tho, so I guess that's something
better battery life and increase in overall performace
Did anyone with mango update can confirm if Arabic is now read correctly on IE9? RTL issue
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I've encountered page load problems and was hoping someone had similar experiences and could offer some pointers. the device is an Asus T100 running Windows 8.1 w/ IE11. I'm experience never-ending load times when swiping back to a previous page from the current page. I'll get the index portion of the page to load, but the ads on the right hand side of the screen usually just never reload, even after minutes of waiting, so I'm left with an essentially hung browser. I can successfully use Chrome or the FF beta to navigate, but I actually kind of like IE11 on the tablet so would prefer to use it if I could. Thanks in advance for any tips you could share!
The same problem for me, only using IE11 ( Ok with Chrome).
Any clue or solution ?
@bitpushr
Thanks for the heads up - will investigate.
This thread just appears as a flashing black screen, others have the left hand side covered by a floating block - containing ads I think.
Ok in Chrome.
I'm having some really bad issues which are making the forums not usable. I haven't really changed anything so am not sure what the issue is.
1) The fonts and spacing is very odd, with sometimes larger or smaller font than expected and sometimes it's all scrunched in on one side.
2) Ads will often overlay on top of the forums, the sidebar on the right will sometimes be right in the middle of the forum page blocking my view, I don't see any way to move it.
3) Very jerky scrolling, sometimes scrolling jumps an entire page, other times it is just kind of ratchety, I turn my mouse wheel and it seems like every scroll takes a half second to catch up. My mouse is set to scroll 3 lines, but I've tried it with 1 line and it's the same. It's the same with smooth scrolling turned on or off.
4) The forums in general are very very slow, I mean unusable slow. A forum page may take upwards of 10 seconds to load, it seems like the ads are what's slowing it down because I can see the page stall, then the ad loads and everything works.
5) Most of the elements on the forum webpage seem to overlap each other, and many elements don't show up, or don't show a graphic but you can still mouse hover and see it's there.
I'm using Internet Explorer 11 on windows 10 on a surface pro 3 (i5/8gm RAM). Any help or suggestions for streamlining would be appreciated. Included a screen shot of the odd fonts and spacing. Zooming, or CTRL+ +/- doesn't help.
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I'm having some really bad issues which are making the forums not usable. I haven't really changed anything so am not sure what the issue is.
1) The fonts and spacing is very odd, with sometimes larger or smaller font than expected and sometimes it's all scrunched in on one side.
2) Ads will often overlay on top of the forums, the sidebar on the right will sometimes be right in the middle of the forum page blocking my view, I don't see any way to move it.
3) Very jerky scrolling, sometimes scrolling jumps an entire page, other times it is just kind of ratchety, I turn my mouse wheel and it seems like every scroll takes a half second to catch up. My mouse is set to scroll 3 lines, but I've tried it with 1 line and it's the same. It's the same with smooth scrolling turned on or off.
4) The forums in general are very very slow, I mean unusable slow. A forum page may take upwards of 10 seconds to load, it seems like the ads are what's slowing it down because I can see the page stall, then the ad loads and everything works.
5) Most of the elements on the forum webpage seem to overlap each other, and many elements don't show up, or don't show a graphic but you can still mouse hover and see it's there.
I'm using Internet Explorer 11 on windows 10 on a surface pro 3 (i5/8gm RAM). Any help or suggestions for streamlining would be appreciated. Included a screen shot of the odd fonts and spacing. Zooming, or CTRL+ +/- doesn't help.
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First let me say that I'm moving this thread to About xda-developers since that's where site issues and discussion belong.
About your issue specifically: I haven't seen anyone making this complaint, but I do have a suggestion. Internet Explorer is terrible at rendering websites. The worst bar none. Since you are on Windows 10, I'd switch to the Edge browser (even Microsoft wants you to). Or you could switch to Firefox (my personal favorite), Chrome, or any other derivative of those. Microsoft only included IE in Windows 10 for backward compatibility and so I'd quit using it. I even got my 70 year old father in law to give up his beloved Internet Explorer. If he can do it, you can too! :highfive:
Thanks, hopefully someone here can offer a solution. I'm kind of stuck on IE11 until Edge gets extensions, but the reality is that millions of people still use IE11 and it should be supported.
I stopped using IE because I was having a lot of the problems you describe, especially the sticking and locking up ones. I switched to Chrome and have not looked back. Edge is too plain and like you said, lacks extensions. You are not stuck on IE though. Other browsers, like Chrome, Firefox, Maxthon, Opera, etc use the same extensions IE does. Have you tried opening up the XDA page in another browser just to troubleshoot? If you want to stay on IE, you can try deleting your IE cache and junk files, reset it to default settings, or even try putting the XDA webpage in compatibility mode and see if that helps. Try opening up IE with all plug-ins disabled, again, just for troubleshooting . Another note about IE. Microsoft just dropped support for versions 10 and below, and I will bet version 11 will be the last of it.
I had this problem recently. It's good to see it wasn't just my usual bad luck!
I do most of my modding at work (sshh..) and our IT department has recently moved everybody over to IE from Chrome. It is noticeably worse at displaying this forum and is, to be honest, a horrible program to use. I even miss Navigator..
Good to see I'm not the only one suffering, though!
I also have a lot of trouble using IE11 on XDA.
For the past few months I have had all the problems listed in the original post.
Now it seems like the page layout problems has been fixed, but for now I can not load a single page on XDA without IE11 locking up.
I have had more problems loading pages on XDA the past few months, than I have had on all other websites combined for the past 10 years - nothing but trouble on XDA..
It must be possible to make this site compatible with IE11, right?
(FYI: I am not using IE11 to write this post - it would be impossible)
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I also have a lot of trouble using IE11 on XDA.
For the past few months I have had all the problems listed in the original post.
Now it seems like the page layout problems has been fixed, but for now I can not load a single page on XDA without IE11 locking up.
I have had more problems loading pages on XDA the past few months, than I have had on all other websites combined for the past 10 years - nothing but trouble on XDA..
It must be possible to make this site compatible with IE11, right?
(FYI: I am not using IE11 to write this post - it would be impossible)
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I'm getting that as well. It's very depressing...but it's good to know that it's not just me.