What are the differences?
I'm using Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 now and in the description mike1986 claims that stock 3.0.8 kernel is the best so far but with so many people using franco's kernel it must be better or am i wrong?
Also, will flashing franco.kernel on Android Revolution cause any bugs etc? (I'm kinda new to this whole flashing kernels part)
(If there are better roms do not hesitate to recommend me one and please tell me what's better if thats the case )
Thanks in advance!
dreamz0r said:
What are the differences?
I'm using Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 now and in the description mike1986 claims that stock 3.0.8 kernel is the best so far but with so many people using franco's kernel it must be better or am i wrong?
Also, will flashing franco.kernel on Android Revolution cause any bugs etc? (I'm kinda new to this whole flashing kernels part)
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I can not list the differences for you exactly just go to franco's thread. There are many advantages to flashing a custom kernel. The kernel devs work hard to make the kernel's better than stock in many ways. You'll get extra features and extended battery life for sure out of a custom kernel. Stock better? I dont think so! Flashing a kernel after a rom is the way you have to do it but, ya some settings might not work if the kernel dev had done things differently from the rom dev.
give it a shot if you dont like it you can always reflash your rom package to restore the roms kernel.
before flashing a kernel (or reflashing your rom after flashing a custom kernel) wipe your dalvik cache
so many people around here have a boner for franco but I always highly recommend GLaDOS kernel its imo the best and most advance but to each his own
blowtorch said:
I can not list the differences for you exactly just go to franco's thread. There are many advantages to flashing a custom kernel. The kernel devs work hard to make the kernel's better than stock in many ways. You'll get extra features and extended battery life for sure out of a custom kernel. Stock better? I dont think so! Flashing a kernel after a rom is the way you have to do it but, ya some settings might not work if the kernel dev had done things differently from the rom dev.
give it a shot if you dont like it you can always reflash your rom package to restore the roms kernel.
before flashing a kernel (or reflashing your rom after flashing a custom kernel) wipe your dalvik cache
so many people around here have a boner for franco but I always highly recommend GLaDOS kernel its imo the best and most advance but to each his own
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Installing it now, let's see if you're right about GLaDOS
Thanks for the reply
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Hi, Currently running Sense(less) rEVOlution 2.0 with Kernel #4, is there a better kernel for better battery life? I like this combo very much but I think the battery could be better
Also looking for a true senseless, AOSP gingerbread rom with gapps included, or at least flashable, any suggestions?
Thanks
Try lous #8....closest thing to whst ur talkin about would b skyraider athena, that and the other 5 gingerbread roms in development
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If you haven't tried chad's incredikernel:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010-plus25v.zip
then I suggest you give it a go.
Use it without setCPU, at least at first. It has one built in so you really don't need one, if you find it too sluggish or you think you can set it better then put it on after you gave the whole Kernel a good run without it.
I find this Kernel very fast and the best for battery life that I've tried.
paboater76 said:
Also looking for a true senseless, AOSP gingerbread rom with gapps included, or at least flashable, any suggestions?
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Not many of those. Really CM7 is the only one I've found worthy of flashing.
Try the RC1
(If you go with AOSP then you will need a different kernel than listed above)
Thanks guys for the replies.
I will try #8 tonight, also on chad's Kernels I have read the same and will be trying that one as well. I'm really liking Senseless 2.0 with Launcher pro Plus
Yeah I understand that with a sense rom you have to have a sense Kernel and with AOSP rom an AOSP kernel. Question though. IF i did decide to try and AOSP ROM, that AOSP rom should/would come with a new Kernel right? Just don't flash Lou's stuff/sense kernel after that.. only flash another AOSP Kernel. Is that right?
I have the Droidx so this Kernel stuff is new to me lol.. still learning.
paboater76 said:
Thanks guys for the replies.
I will try #8 tonight, also on chad's Kernels I have read the same and will be trying that one as well. I'm really liking Senseless 2.0 with Launcher pro Plus
Yeah I understand that with a sense rom you have to have a sense Kernel and with AOSP rom an AOSP kernel. Question though. IF i did decide to try and AOSP ROM, that AOSP rom should/would come with a new Kernel right? Just don't flash Lou's stuff/sense kernel after that.. only flash another AOSP Kernel. Is that right?
I have the Droidx so this Kernel stuff is new to me lol.. still learning.
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You got it Most/all ROMs for the Inc come with a kernel included. I personally like the one CM7 RC1 comes with, gives me great battery life
Ziggy's 12111 beta
If I flash to incredikernel from Lou's #4 I just need to wide delvic cache correct?
Is it necessary to flash a Kernal after flashing a custom rom ?
I am thinking of flashing CM 9 or Liquid Rom. Which is the best kernal to flash with them.
-The correct spelling is kernel.
-It is not necessary to flash a new kernel with a rom. In general roms will package the stock kernel unless they note otherwise.
-I am personally a fan of leankernel because of the mission statement behind its development and the accessibility and speed of its update cycle.
Nope. Custom roms have kernels included, so you are not required to download a separate kernel. However, some kernels run better (ie, more fluid, less heat, reboots, etc) than others on the same device. It all depends on the silicon in your phone. If you plan to run cm9, I recommend sticking with the default kernel. If you're going with Liquid, use imoseyon's leankernel (the default) or franco kernels.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend franco's kernel app, especially if you are new to the scene. It can download & install either franco or imoseyon kernels, making kernel flashing stupid easy. It also lets you overclock & undervolt, change governors and tweak color settings. And it is the easiest way to keep up with nightly/experimental builds. Not to mention it shows your support and encourages more development.
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i say try them all, but for cm9 i recommend fugumod.
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Thanks you all for your suggestions ...
finally going to try Liquid Smooth 1.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555667)
along with Franco.Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341)
...... One last question Which Franco Kernel to flash there are Milestone 2, Milestone 1, Nightly ??? Whats the difference between them ?
Also when installing extras for liquid smooth do i need to wipe everything again .. I am new to this flashing stuff
and does Liquid Smooth comes with a kernel if so which one ?
Latest milestone is the most stable. Nightlies are experimental. And no need to wipe.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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thanks .... extremely useful info
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
cldwar said:
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
Rcommander said:
doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
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Don't I need to get the boot loader etc back to orignal in order to receive the updates ... ? If so how ?
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Kernal?
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
falconfan said:
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
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Use liquid rom with Franco milestone built ... gave me a 4+ hour screen time. Don't know why but the nightly version reduces battery life
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I'm running Liquid 1.3 and am using Franco nightly #143 and, so far, my battery life is really great. I was at 89% after 2 hours. I also want to try Milestone 3, that just came out yesterday and see how it performs.
Long time lurker, first time poster :3. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding the flashing of ROMs and kernels. I have been looking around for a nice ROM(s) or a kernel(s) to flash the t989. Currently I am running on rooted stock and want to mix it up a bit. I came across the Darkside X v1 Final kernel located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466283&page=44 .
Now the question is can I flash this kernel but retain the stock ROM?
- any advantages vs flashing kernel and a new ROM?
- disadvantages?
Is there anything that I should be concerned about, or pay special attention to before proceeding with this?
Thanks!
ohaiu said:
Long time lurker, first time poster :3. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding the flashing of ROMs and kernels. I have been looking around for a nice ROM(s) or a kernel(s) to flash the t989. Currently I am running on rooted stock and want to mix it up a bit. I came across the Darkside X v1 Final kernel located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466283&page=44 .
(1) Now the question is can I flash this kernel but retain the stock ROM?
- (2) any advantages vs flashing kernel and a new ROM?
- (3) disadvantages?
(4) Is there anything that I should be concerned about, or pay special attention to before proceeding with this?
Thanks!
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(1) Yes you can, just wipe cache and dalvik cache prior to flashing kernel
(2) Depends on what the kernel has to offer. I'm not super well informed on tdjs kernel but for one you get BLN support which is great. You also get performance and battery enhancements plus many other goodies.
(3) Not really, any kernel on these forums is better than stock so you're looking at nothing but advantages.
(4) As long as you follow the proper steps to installing a kernel you should be fine. Common sense is your friend. Once you flash a specific kernel you might want to look at under clocking and under vaulting to extend your battery life with minimal performance decrease.
BONUS: TDJ's Darkside ROM and Eugenes Streamline Kernel are the best for me. Great stability, battery and performance. Refer to my signature for links.
Best of luck
The best advice I can give is Back up your stock rom with rom manager and back your apps with titanium, after that you can flash flash any rom and take it on a test drive to see how it feels. If you see it's buggy you can go back to the stock you had to begin with like you never did a thing.
Personalty I tried most of the ICS roms an found bugs I just couldn't deal with in one way or another. I did find this ICS rom today
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623430
This has the leaked tmo kernel and radio making it almost the complete update we so deserve lol. anyway I put it on today and sofar all I could say is it is sweet no bugs this far and love the ICS......
Last advice is before flash do the darkside super wipe this does a better job then just wipe cache and dalvik cache and you dont lose the data you have backed up.
Oh also follow the directions from any rom to the tee to lessen the chance for problems
[Q] Questions regarding kernels and romArrow
Thanks for the input guys. Right now, I would like to experiment with a new kernel before going full-blown with a ROM...I will likely do that later down the road.
Now, while I was reading up on the various kernels and their offerings, another question popped into my head. Will flashing the phone with a new kernel purge pre-existing applications and settings? I will be backing up regardless, but I just thought I'd ask.
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Thanks for the input guys. Right now, I would like to experiment with a new kernel before going full-blown with a ROM...I will likely do that later down the road.
Now, while I was reading up on the various kernels and their offerings, another question popped into my head. Will flashing the phone with a new kernel purge pre-existing applications and settings? I will be backing up regardless, but I just thought I'd ask.
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no
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
fieldside said:
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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ak kernal, fraco is also a great option, but i personally prefer ak.
leanKernel
Just flashed stock 4.2.2 and flahsed franco r365. Seems that the battery is better than before. I will report in the next days.
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All kernels aim to give better battery life while not sacrificing too much performance.
Kernels need a little while to settle down so try one out and give it a day before passing judgment and if it doesn't give desired results for your rom and device then try another.
AK Kernel 4.2.2
fieldside said:
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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I've had a ton of success with AK kernels. Morfic and LeanKernel too, but lately the AK ones seem the best for me. I run a custom ROM tho, and I've seen that a lot of folks really like Morfic on stock 4.2.2.
If you're on VZW or Sprint, you may have to flash the GPU binaries to be able to install a true 4.2.2 kernel, otherwise you're phone wont boot and you'll have to reflash a 4.2.1 kernel to get back up and running.
I know Tiny (he's got a great kernel too) posted this flashable binary, in case this helps. Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38034158&postcount=22
Hi I am new to rom and kernel flashing, and I am interested in flashing the ElementalX 1.1 kernel on AOKP. I love AOKP, and I am way interested in the swipe-to-wake and double-tap-to-wake features of ElementalX 1.1.
What kinds of things do I need to know about compatibility between kernels and Roms? Can you typically use any kernel with any rom?
Loving the Nexus experience and looking forward to learning more!
They often can but not always.
Android versions need to match.
Usually you can flash any kernel on any ROMs but if its a CM based ROM and you flash a custom kernel then slimport features sometimes don't work or some times you flash a custom kernel then the boot animation gets cut and turns black it doesn't really matter I have done lots of flashing and I would say that every kernel can be a flashed with any ROM without problems I am currently on CM kang and using kernel elemental x and everything runs smooth..hope this help click thankksss
Don't just slap any kernel to your device you might seriously brick it.....learned this lesson when I had an Atrix4G.....
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Don't just slap any kernel to your device you might seriously brick it.....learned this lesson when I had an Atrix4G.....
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Nexus devices are different then the Atrix4G. You can not seriously brick it by flashing an incompatible kernel. Even having no kernel will not prevent you from accessing the bootloader and recovery.