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I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
craggybuk said:
I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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i got mine 2 days after release, first had a dead pixel and no other problems, i took that back and got this one and has been 100% fine no issues i'm so confident it is perfect i unlocked and void warranty lol
i would go for it you will have 30 days to take it back anyway so no like oyu will be out of pocket if you do get a defect just take it back.
Personally I have had mine for 2 weeks I guess I been lucky the first one I had was very very hot after 15 minutes that was HT23 handset. I swapped it with a HT243W which looking at the forums seemed to be better build quality a lot more robust. Still warms up when playing games but not too the point of scalding.
I used Custom roms on mine and with ARHD I was getting good battery life I am considered a light user 5 hours listening pod casts, 2hrs surfing and a few phone calls. I have a long commute to work.
Overall I really really love this phone. I have no regrets in my decision on getting the one X.
I must be 1 of the lucky 1s, first handset and no faults ht23 batch. I'm glad I went for this instead of the S3. Does everything I need it to do smoothly and the battery lasts me just over a day with over 3 hours screen on time
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Where did you all get your handsets from. I'm looking at getting mine from mobiles.co.uk as they seem the cheapest for the handset on the length of contract I'm looking at.
I'm currently using GiffGaff as my provider but I cant afford to buy the phone outright so I'll be moving back to Orange when I eventually buy it. Thats why its important for me to only buy when I'm satisfied as I'll be going from £10 a month at GG to £26 a month with Orange.
Got mine from Clove.co.UK on release day. Not had a single issue.
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I got mine from o2
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your more likely to find people talking about problems on forums than people saying their device is perfect, simply because there is no reason to say "my device is perfect" but people report problems to let others know.
There are more perfect one xs than there are broken ones.
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Any advice would be gratefully received.
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The graphics issues (it's not just flickering) will be resolved via updates. If you're in no rush, there's no harm in waiting until the "all clear" is sounded.
The setting of the screen is a QC issue. The polls would indicate that either a lot of people are easily pleased, blind, or that the majority of phones are decent. If you're buying in-store compare a couple.
The biggest item (it doesn't qualify as an "issue") people aren't pleased with is that HTC uses two vendors for the display. One has a warm cast, the other cool. Most people seem to prefer the cool. If you can see the phone you're buying that shouldn't be an issue.
The only non-addressable issue is battery life and it's real. I get about 15-20% less usage than on my i9100 doing exactly the same things. It's passable but no more.
Other than that I've had the phone over two weeks and not had a single issue. There are no QC issues, the displays brilliant, and Wi-Fi/BT/3G all work better than on my i9100. Coming from TW I also really like Sense. It really is a terrific value; especially for less than a 16GB SGS3.
ive been the most vocal about QC issues
but i love the HOX despite all this and think its worth some effort, really amazing in every word, futuristic phone
having said that, i truly think no one with flawed HOX should keep it, exchange until you get yourself a flawless One X to enjoy and as BarryH_GEG said its best to pick it by hand it store
as for the displays, the colder one is more pleasant to the eye/brighter but the warmer one is more accurate and have better contrast/clean grid, users reported recalibrated colors for the warm screen after the 1.29
corruption glitches seems mostly gone with 1.29 too, this leaves the grey flicker occurring after over heating which im also hoping will be sorted with updates, since its never being permanent and Transformer prime suffered from something similar which eventually got sorted by updates
make sure to hand pick your unit and if you can't be bothered wait a while, im pretty sure HTC is working on the production issues
i don't think the SGS3 comes close
No issues here neither.
Battery lasts well enough, even with heavy use (phone calls, texts), lots of games, browsing, apps will kill the battery.
No screen issues.
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Sorry if I sound like I'm flaming you, however I have to right?
The title of this thread is just utterly ridiculous. Of course this phone is fit for purpose, primarily because it can make texts & calls. It's amazing how many people are complaining about this phone and saying it isn't right. If you buy a phone within the first two months, maybe even three of it being launched, these are problems you have to expect to get.
The build quality issues are inexcusable. As far as I'm concerned the first batch should be as good as the very last batch made, however I know this isn't always the case due to different factories ect.
As for the software, I think almost every single smartphone on the planets initial software is flawed in one way or another. I suppose technically you could argue the One X is running 'Beta' firmware. It's Kernel is took from Gingerbread rather than ICS. In my opinion HTC rushed the release.
Until a phones initial release, there is never any mass software testing and so there are always going to be bugs. When I got my Desire HD on launch day, despite being an OTA the second I got home the phone still had a severe battery drain and performance issues that weren't sorted out for months! It was around February when those issues got sorted, and that update got pulled because it introduced new bugs.
The One X is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. You can tell that it's design has really been took into consideration, and despite being on my 4th device (I'm very happy with this one) I don't regret getting my One X and completely recommend it to you, it will not disappoint.
So the answer to your question, the One X is certainly fit for purpose. Feel free to flame me people, it's just my opinion.
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craggybuk said:
I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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As an owner, I think the battery issue is the biggest for me. Also, I'm not happy about not supporting OTG.
If you can find a phone that fits your needs with better battery life, go for it
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jaaystott said:
So the answer to your question, the One X is certainly fit for purpose. Feel free to flame me people, it's just my opinion.
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What's your purpose?
I would prefer a phone I can feel comfortable taking out of the city for a few days, and with some way to access external storage - be it OTG or usb...
In hindsight, the One X is like a gaming phone or something.
I dont think that any phone is 100% perfect for everyone that buys it. Its all about compromises. This is probably why quite a few people carry two handsets with them.
Any new device released will have its teething issues…. even many cars launched have recalls in the first few months.
As I said, I have no issues with mine at all. Screen has no faults, its not lifting from the body, I am always able to have the phone on charge (even though I am a field based engineer) but lasts well enough when off charge.
The only time i see the battery drain quickly is when browsing the net, tethering or playing games. Texting, emailing, facebook dont seem to kill the battery that much as its generally just for a few moments rather than 10 or 20 minutes with the screen on.
We buy a phone cos its thin, huge screen, good looking and has a quad core processor….. surely its not rocket science to know that the battery isnt going to last as well as a Nokia 6310i?
Steve
Supaiku said:
What's your purpose?
I would prefer a phone I can feel comfortable taking out of the city for a few days, and with some way to access external storage - be it OTG or usb...
In hindsight, the One X is like a gaming phone or something.
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The OP was basically asking is this phone fit for purpose, so I assume he means as a phone, as a phone its more than fit for purpose
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The OP was basically asking is this phone fit for purpose, so I assume he means as a phone, as a phone its more than fit for purpose
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You know those 30 dollar nokias make great phones... and they will last days on a single charge! Plus they're smaller...
Hi guys, thanks for all the replies. It seems that the majority of you are happy with the One X.
Just to clear up a what I mean by fit for purpose. I want a handset which isnt going to fall apart or malfunction beyond repair within 6 months. Some of the threads here are disturbing to say the least concerning the manufacturing issues with a select batch of handsets.
jaaystott, I don't think the title of the thread is ridiculous. I was asking a question based on what I have read here. If I had come out and said that the HOX WAS unift for purpose then you would have a point. Remember, I dont have the phone yet so I was asking a question that anyone would reasonable ask prior to spending a substantial amount of cash.
I am tempted to see what next week brings and then just bite the bullet and buy one.
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Hi guys, thanks for all the replies. It seems that the majority of you are happy with the One X.
Just to clear up a what I mean by fit for purpose. I want a handset which isnt going to fall apart or malfunction beyond repair within 6 months. Some of the threads here are disturbing to say the least concerning the manufacturing issues with a select batch of handsets.
jaaystott, I don't think the title of the thread is ridiculous. I was asking a question based on what I have read here. If I had come out and said that the HOX WAS unift for purpose then you would have a point. Remember, I dont have the phone yet so I was asking a question that anyone would reasonable ask prior to spending a substantial amount of cash.
I am tempted to see what next week brings and then just bite the bullet and buy one.
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Well if that's all you're looking for, then just make sure your phone doesn't have any build quality issues before you do something to void the warranty (like unlock it w/ HTCdev) and you're set. My One X has no build quality issues, and if you check out the "One X War Stories" thread to see about how well the One X fairs when subjected to "cruel and unusual punishment" ;p
For instance:
hamade said:
I've received the first case after around a week, but during that time I've dropped the phone at least 4 times, always on a solid floor and from around 1 meter height, and I can honestly say I am really impressed with the quality of the packing, there is not even one visible scratch on the phone or the screen.
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Hi,
I am getting ready to buy a HOX as the S3 is not to my liking.
As we all know some of the first HOXes had build quality issues like yellowish screen spots, cracking of the outer shell and screen, and flickering.
I am wondering if HTC has successfully adressed those issues yet. Could new owners please report their build quality (please no early adopters anymore).
Please report any issues (also please report if you don't have any) and your device color (as it seems to indicate country of production).
Surely more ppl than just myself are curious to know if HTC has addressed the issues.
Thanks for your kindness in sharing your experiences.
All the best.
fuzzifikation said:
Hi,
I am getting ready to buy a HOX as the S3 is not to my liking.
As we all know some of the first HOXes had build quality issues like yellowish screen spots, cracking of the outer shell and screen, and flickering.
I am wondering if HTC has successfully adressed those issues yet. Could new owners please report their build quality (please no early adopters anymore).
Please report any issues (also please report if you don't have any) and your device color (as it seems to indicate country of production).
Surely more ppl than just myself are curious to know if HTC has addressed the issues.
Thanks for your kindness in sharing your experiences.
All the best.
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there are more fine HOX's then defects, people with problems are more vocal then those without, if you worried don't buy either and get a different phone.
my first had a dead pixel i got 2 days after release i got a replacement on the 3rd day and it is perfect.
treebill said:
there are more fine HOX's then defects, people with problems are more vocal then those without, if you worried don't buy either and get a different phone.
my first had a dead pixel i got 2 days after release i got a replacement on the 3rd day and it is perfect.
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thanks. I've asked because I've looked at one in a local store. It cracked and had a noticable annoying yellow spot on the screen. Also HTC had promised to address the issues. I'm just wondering how production of the devices improved...
got my HOX 11 days after the uk release and i have had no issues whatsoever. The build quality is htc standard aswell, plastic phone but damn good quality sturdy plastic lol. none of the samsung rubbish
i love my one x and nth is wrong with it its just the battery. what pisses me off is that the S3 has the same dimension a bit different and same wight just 3g difference and they have a 2100 mAh battery, what would have happened if HTC did that God !!!! im sorry im just really pissed just saw this
please make sure other than that i love the phone it works great i have nth to say more than its 99% great just battery life and if i have to recomend someone to get a phone it is the HOX for lots of reasons !!!
my answer for u is go ahead and buy the HOX its a great phone !!!
chances of a fauly one?
The build quality issues are the only thing stopping me getting one too. They are about $100 cheaper to buy on ebay than in a store (buying outright) but would be a real pain to have to ship back and forth if it was faulty. What do you think the chances would be of getting a fauly one? or worth the extra money to be able to return it the same day ?
fuzzifikation said:
Hi,
I am getting ready to buy a HOX as the S3 is not to my liking.
As we all know some of the first HOXes had build quality issues like yellowish screen spots, cracking of the outer shell and screen, and flickering.
I am wondering if HTC has successfully adressed those issues yet. Could new owners please report their build quality (please no early adopters anymore).
Please report any issues (also please report if you don't have any) and your device color (as it seems to indicate country of production).
Surely more ppl than just myself are curious to know if HTC has addressed the issues.
Thanks for your kindness in sharing your experiences.
All the best.
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I've seen 3 different one x and they all had issues and my latest is from a newer batch and it have flickering, screen issues and a low lit back button. Most people that are happy with their handsets either are the kind that dont look for flaws or fanboys, as youve started this thread i guess youre not that kind. I think all phones have flickering in some degree but most people dont see it. The amount of faulty hoxes is way too frequent. You should listen to those who put their phones under a microscope if you want an objective opinion.
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kkarnaout said:
i love my one x and nth is wrong with it its just the battery. what pisses me off is that the S3 has the same dimension a bit different and same wight just 3g difference and they have a 2100 mAh battery, what would have happened if HTC did that God !!!! im sorry im just really pissed just saw this
please make sure other than that i love the phone it works great i have nth to say more than its 99% great just battery life and if i have to recomend someone to get a phone it is the HOX for lots of reasons !!!
my answer for u is go ahead and buy the HOX its a great phone !!!
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I dont know why people keep say things like "why can company A do this but company B can't?" It makes no sense at all. Just because Motorola can make an awesome battery or S3 has a bigger battery so HTC HAS TO be able to do the same thing. Well, apparently they cant. Their technology doesnt allow them to do that, and it's ok. No need to get worked up about it. If their stuff doesn't live up to your expectations then feel free to not buy them. It's YOUR money, YOUR phone, YOUR decision.
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mertzi said:
I've seen 3 different one x and they all had issues and my latest is from a newer batch and it have flickering, screen issues and a low lit back button. Most people that are happy with their handsets either are the kind that dont look for flaws or fanboys, as youve started this thread i guess youre not that kind. I think all phones have flickering in some degree but most people dont see it. The amount of faulty hoxes is way too frequent. You should listen to those who put their phones under a microscope if you want an objective opinion.
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SO now the dozens of people who have faulty handsets on XDA (look at the poll) represent the market?
I got mine on release day here on the UK (5th April I think) - I've not had any issues with mine, no flickering, no spots, no creaking etc.
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I also got mine early, on friday before the offcial release date in germany.
My HOX is perfectly. No screen flickering, no yellow ****, screen cracking etc.
Got my UK HT23 One X on release day from Phones4U and have the flickering screen issue. I wonder if the HT24 versions have the issues people are having? Can anyone confirm this?
Mine is perfect as well
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My One X is perfect(there is a chance the screen flickers and i have umpteen dead pixels but i need to borrow a microscope to make sure.) I have no creaks,rattling noises,no gaps between body and screen.I`d give it a 10/10 but downgrade it to 9/10 because i can`t get used to the volume controls on the right hand side.
I bought mine a week after release.
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Mine is perfect. I purchased it in the first week of release in Australia. no issues with screen, casing etc. Much better than my galaxy s ii and galaxy nexus. Waiting for pure asop build though with no bugs.
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Mine is perfect, I bought it on the day of release in the UK over a month ago and I haven't had a single issue.
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Mine is perfect too. Mine is an SH23 model, and if you do some research you'll find very contradicting evidence of HT (Taiwanese) or SH (Chinese) models being worse. All I can say is mine has no physical defects.
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I dont know why people keep say things like "why can company A do this but company B can't?" It makes no sense at all. Just because Motorola can make an awesome battery or S3 has a bigger battery so HTC HAS TO be able to do the same thing. Well, apparently they cant. Their technology doesnt allow them to do that, and it's ok. No need to get worked up about it. If their stuff doesn't live up to your expectations then feel free to not buy them. It's YOUR money, YOUR phone, YOUR decision.
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true respect ur idea again not my point coz i said the phone is great and i would recommend it as is!!!! just saying some love my friend hehe
Thanks for the replies so far. It seems as if there are mainly first adopters, here as most ppl who have replied so far have bought their phone in the first week of release. That is to be expected, in this forum, I guess. But...
Has anyone bought one recently? like, say, in May?
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Thanks for the replies so far. It seems as if there are mainly first adopters, here as most ppl who have replied so far have bought their phone in the first week of release. That is to be expected, in this forum, I guess. But...
Has anyone bought one recently? like, say, in May?
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yes my latest is ht24 and got it wedneysday and it is ****. it has this, really really noticeable, http://youtu.be/Dl1X37IyzdA
you should read the threads related to all the issues, not the happy-happy-threads cause they are subjective. its more frequent than some want you to believe. and I REALLY want to like this phone as everything besides build issues is great.
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Got my UK HT23 One X on release day from Phones4U and have the flickering screen issue. I wonder if the HT24 versions have the issues people are having? Can anyone confirm this?
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I got two HT243 phones one after the other, the first on the 17th of April, had a yellow band on the top left of the screen, a small gap on the left with the associated creacks and flex and the deal killer, Wi-Fi connectivity issues.
After 4 days, gave up and had it exchanged - the next was and still is perfect. Ten days after I got it, I unlocked it and am now experimenting with custom Roms.
This is my 5th HTC handset in as many years, all lived and worked in perfect state untill they got sold. I am confident my HOX will live up to the expectations.
The only drawback I really find is the battery, indeed, as this is a device that craves to be used, it's unexplainable, but I feel I cannot let it down. Bear in mind it's my fourth week with it already. Htc should have given us the option for a replaceable power pack.
So I suggest you get your unit from a retail store, so that you can examine the device beforehand, at least for the physical defects described on this forum.
.... Or make sure you have a later model HT245... HT25...
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So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated
Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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I am !
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.
I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch
pewpewbangbang said:
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.
I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
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The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.
sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.
@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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My first HOX was returned because of the screen flicking issue. Replacement is totally perfect and not had any issues with it at all. The phone gets hot after about 10 mins of continuous use but that is expected.
On the other hand my Dad just received he's One X and that has the Screen Flex issue on the left hand side. I didn't mention it to him as to be honest he prob wont notice but it just goes to show that recent batches still have this issue.
Overall Im really pleased with the phone and if you are unlucky enough to receive a faulty one then you usually have 28 days from the day you receive it to get a replacement sent. After that it's a trip to the HTC Repair center.
The only problems I have had are overheating (all the time, but I don't mind as the phone is powerful and I expect it to get warm) and the yellow marks on the screen, but they went away after a day and I haven't seen them at all (not even the tiniest bit)..
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Yeah my first HOX was dysfunctional too (camera issues, a big 'stripe' when opening the camera app), so I went back to the shop to switch my phone for a new one. So far so good, no problems with my 2nd HOX.
I'm in your same situation I want to buy the one x but all this issues scare me, I think I'm gonna wait for at least two months and then get it, hoping to get a new batch, i cannot exchange it since I would be importing from amazon
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Chad_Petree said:
I'm in your same situation I want to buy the one x but all this issues scare me, I think I'm gonna wait for at least two months and then get it, hoping to get a new batch, i cannot exchange it since I would be importing from amazon
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
Goku80 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
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yes but the above link doesnot show how to find the wifi problem before buying it. the hardware issue. any way to detect that. also what if the phone has a default battery. i cant ask the retailer to lend me the phone for a week to test. this doesnt happen in my country man. i am also afraid to to buy the HOX. today i held both HOX and S3 in my hand. and HOX looked so damn fuking good. but still very afraid to buy one.
mohaimed said:
yes but the above link doesnot show how to find the wifi problem before buying it. the hardware issue. any way to detect that. also what if the phone has a default battery. i cant ask the retailer to lend me the phone for a week to test. this doesnt happen in my country man. i am also afraid to to buy the HOX. today i held both HOX and S3 in my hand. and HOX looked so damn fuking good. but still very afraid to buy one.
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you do not need to take the phone away to test it. you can test it there by switching it on and playing with it for a few minutes and check for any screen issues ie(flickering) or regarding the wifi you should not have any problems. is this job you buying it from are they are a well known shop were you can trust them to take it back if anything gets wrong with it?
just try and connect to a wifi connection in the store and ask the retailer if it is ok to see if that is working..
actually even better tell the retailer your fears about the One X and ask him if there has been any issues with it and he would be probably the best person to answer all your questions..
if you are still worrying about wifi though there are a few threads here in the general section which you can read upon..but i will tell you this i never had any issues with regarding wifi
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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Check out my thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721727
My advice is that if you really prefer the One X over the S3 (which I guess would be your other choice) wait a month or so for these issues to be addressed. HTC is getting a lot of bad press because of these issues and sooner or later the company has to deal with them.
I did a Google search today for S3 build quality defects and surprisingly there were just one off cases..nothing as major as the WiFi death grip issues, the screen flex issue, the overheating or the yellow spot issue! Thats way too many defects for any device. If you are going to be investing a good 36k wait back and let it pass.
silenced3 said:
Check out my thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721727
My advice is that if you really prefer the One X over the S3 (which I guess would be your other choice) wait a month or so for these issues to be addressed. HTC is getting a lot of bad press because of these issues and sooner or later the company has to deal with them.
I did a Google search today for S3 build quality defects and surprisingly there were just one off cases..nothing as major as the WiFi death grip issues, the screen flex issue, the overheating or the yellow spot issue! Thats way too many defects for any device. If you are going to be investing a good 36k wait back and let it pass.
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As you said, I think its better to wait for 1 more month, till HTC sort out these glitches.
I've not tried S3 on hand till now, so I dont know how it is....my default option was HTC one X and I was eagerly waiting for its launch.But these issues really let me down...its like taking a huge risk as of now..so lemme wait and get it...sometimes anticipation is sweet when you are sure of outcome(Hope HTC rectify the issues)
Goku80 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
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I cannot return it, ill be freight forwarding the phone to my country, returning it would cost me something like 80 $ :/
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Goku80 said:
you do not need to take the phone away to test it. you can test it there by switching it on and playing with it for a few minutes and check for any screen issues ie(flickering) or regarding the wifi you should not have any problems. is this job you buying it from are they are a well known shop were you can trust them to take it back if anything gets wrong with it?
just try and connect to a wifi connection in the store and ask the retailer if it is ok to see if that is working..
actually even better tell the retailer your fears about the One X and ask him if there has been any issues with it and he would be probably the best person to answer all your questions..
if you are still worrying about wifi though there are a few threads here in the general section which you can read upon..but i will tell you this i never had any issues with regarding wifi
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Hey buddy,
here in India the story is entirely different.the retailer will have a display piece in their showroom, and the customer is allowed to use that alone for verification.
And once the customer buys the new one, and if he finds issues out if the box, the retailer wont take any responsiblities.
They will ask us to go to HTC service center, which will be miles away.The retailers really sucks in this matter here, and for the customer, its like trial and error.....
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As you said, I think its better to wait for 1 more month, till HTC sort out these glitches.
I've not tried S3 on hand till now, so I dont know how it is....my default option was HTC one X and I was eagerly waiting for its launch.But these issues really let me down...its like taking a huge risk as of now..so lemme wait and get it...sometimes anticipation is sweet when you are sure of outcome(Hope HTC rectify the issues)
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Try the S3 in the meanwhile..spend some time with it. S3 put me off primarily because of the looks.. Other things apart, One X is a more premium looking phone and for me this is a very important factor. Keep visiting your nearest retailer and see if the SH25 or HT25 series has arrived. This batch seems to be the best of the lot .. Holding back a month or so will really pay off in the end.
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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I have One X and I'm really happy with this beast ! No Problem at all
Very Fast, Huge Screen with unbelievable quality (Tegra 3 games are soo perfect), before i Had GS2 Note iPhone4 GS1, Evo3D etc... but this phone is simply amazing...
I had Overheat with some games on GS2 too... so i don't think this is an hardware issue (my opinion), Music quality is brilliant, camera is very very fast and many opportunities (HDR, Panorama, Slow motion record etc).
The only thing that i would say this phone is poor, is battery, it's not too bad, not too good ... In future we will have customs Kernels so i don't mind...
Hope I helped you
silenced3 said:
Try the S3 in the meanwhile..spend some time with it. S3 put me off primarily because of the looks.. Other things apart, One X is a more premium looking phone and for me this is a very important factor. Keep visiting your nearest retailer and see if the SH25 or HT25 series has arrived. This batch seems to be the best of the lot .. Holding back a month or so will really pay off in the end.
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I've been waiting for 3 weeks now, impatiance is growing inside me, but i guess its wise to wait n watch for another 1 month..:-(
Do you any info, wheather HTC have responded officially regarding these glitches...will they cover all issues through the updates alone or any fresh batches of HOX can be expected?
Also, is it possible to know the batch name/code, from the box itself(without opening the box), if yesm kindly let me know how...
arunjnair said:
I've been waiting for 3 weeks now, impatiance is growing inside me, but i guess its wise to wait n watch for another 1 month..:-(
Do you any info, wheather HTC have responded officially regarding these glitches...will they cover all issues through the updates alone or any fresh batches of HOX can be expected?
Also, is it possible to know the batch name/code, from the box itself(without opening the box), if yesm kindly let me know how...
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I am sure HTC is looking into these issues very seriously. They are getting a lot of bad press. When I went to the service center yesterday, I met 4 people who had different problems related to WiFi, over heating, display etc.
There is a way to identify the batch. There is a white label on the box that states the device's IMEI number and serial number (S/N). Look out for the serial number.. if it starts with a "SH25" or "HT25"..you should be good to go!
silenced3 said:
I am sure HTC is looking into these issues very seriously. They are getting a lot of bad press. When I went to the service center yesterday, I met 4 people who had different problems related to WiFi, over heating, display etc.
There is a way to identify the batch. There is a white label on the box that states the device's IMEI number and serial number (S/N). Look out for the serial number.. if it starts with a "SH25" or "HT25"..you should be good to go!
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That info abt S/N was really helpful.
I talked with a retailer over here, and they informed me they are having SH25 black model in stock currently.I guess the SH25 is Chineese model...
lemme go there, once again have the demo piece in my model, gotta check all the things acco to the thread which showed "how to check HOX while buying"...
BTW what du think about SH25...??
I think the recent batches of the One X have relatively lesser to no issues. The death grip will be resolved in the future batches and so the ones now in the Market will most probably have it.
Other than that, the heat is obvious, but you can't play games while charging as the battery gets over heated. Also the screen flickering issues and all other issues have been resolved in the new test build 2.05 and that will be coming to us with some more improvements as well pretty soon. So most of the issues are resolved as well... I think you can go for it... You will not regret it.....
One issue is that you will face is the battery backup is not as good as the S3 but you can get through easily one day with moderate use.
Moderate Use: 3G data on full time, Auto Sync ON, FB whatsapp chatting youtube and so on for 1 hour(3G usage), calls for 1 hour, music for 2 hours.
I feel this is the best device on the market despite what the S3 lovers say... She is a beauty....
Update: I have not checked for the deathgrip issue as 90 percent of the time my phone is on 3G and I have little screen brightness adjustment bug visible when the brightness is really low.. But otherwise no issues what so ever.... I am having the HT24 model and no issues other than the deathgrip.
aLcHy09 said:
I think the recent batches of the One X have relatively lesser to no issues. The death grip will be resolved in the future batches and so the ones now in the Market will most probably have it.
Other than that, the heat is obvious, but you can't play games while charging as the battery gets over heated. Also the screen flickering issues and all other issues have been resolved in the new test build 2.05 and that will be coming to us with some more improvements as well pretty soon. So most of the issues are resolved as well... I think you can go for it... You will not regret it.....
One issue is that you will face is the battery backup is not as good as the S3 but you can get through easily one day with moderate use.
Moderate Use: 3G data on full time, Auto Sync ON, FB whatsapp chatting youtube and so on for 1 hour(3G usage), calls for 1 hour, music for 2 hours.
I feel this is the best device on the market despite what the S3 lovers say... She is a beauty....
Update: I have not checked for the deathgrip issue as 90 percent of the time my phone is on 3G and I have little screen brightness adjustment bug visible when the brightness is really low.. But otherwise no issues what so ever.... I am having the HT24 model and no issues other than the deathgrip.
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Heating issue is not a big issue, i guess, untill its safe to handle(till 45-50C)....n also, i'm a moderate user, mainly for music n camera....
can you pls tell me from where you bought your HOX(retailer n address)..
I'll checking out once again the demo model from the retailer in coming days, i'll keep you guys posted what I obvserved....
arunjnair said:
That info abt S/N was really helpful.
I talked with a retailer over here, and they informed me they are having SH25 black model in stock currently.I guess the SH25 is Chineese model...
lemme go there, once again have the demo piece in my model, gotta check all the things acco to the thread which showed "how to check HOX while buying"...
BTW what du think about SH25...??
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SH25 should be good... i think you can go ahead and buy it.. just dont root it and use it as much as possible for a good 7 days... just in case you face any issues declare the phone DOA by going to your nearest HTC service center within 7-14 days of purchase (earlier the better).. then you can get a replacement from the store that you brought the phone from.. alternatively just ask for a credit note from the store and wait out a month for the storm to pass
Although its very unlikely that you will face any issues with the SH25 model..Good luck!
Ok guys, just got my Sensation XE stolen and in need of a new phone. Can't really find any SXE around and the only viable option from HTC is the HOX. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY REPORTS OF PROBLEMS with this phone. Most users are on their second or third one.
I don't want to buy a phone just to send it in to get repaired....
What's up, problem sorted now or are there still bad phones out there?
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Ok guys, just got my Sensation XE stolen and in need of a new phone. Can't really find any SXE around and the only viable option from HTC is the HOX. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY REPORTS OF PROBLEMS with this phone. Most users are on their second or third one.
I don't want to buy a phone just to send it in to get repaired....
What's up, problem sorted now or are there still bad phones out there?
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not if you age a new batch
later SH/HT25 and above
Plus I think with the old HT23 & HT24's it was calculated that about 15% had issues if that... I may be wrong and muffed up the numbers... I think it was 15% at it's highest.
The-Last-Hylian said:
Plus I think with the old HT23 & HT24's it was calculated that about 15% had issues if that... I may be wrong and muffed up the numbers... I think it was 15% at it's highest.
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The media are great at making problems seem a lot bigger than they are too.
You should be okay if you buy one.
Oh yeah, I'm sure that you'll be fine
Got an early HOX batch and ZERO problems!
The only bug that was scaring me(that I didn't get) was the flickering issue but HTC managed to resolved anyway with FW upgrades :good:
I am pretty sure sgs3 got problems too in early stages
Yea the sgs 3 had signal problems. My one x is HT24 and I havent had any issues.
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Yea the sgs 3 had signal problems. My one x is HT24 and I havent had any issues.
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Same
Have an early HOX as well and havent had any problems from day one. Extremely happy with it so far and getting more and more impressed with every day that passes!!! Wouldnt trade it for the world!!
Bought a HOX at the first week of release. No problems so far, and BTW, it doesnt happen to often that people create topics just to announce that their phone works
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HT23 here, absolutely perfect device. No problems at all.
Got my HOX days after the release, no problems, no nothing, neither on stock nor custom rom. The only thing is that u def. have to flash a custom rom since the stock rom is one hell of a battery eater...
Haven't read a lot in the media, more trolling around here and past experiences with HTC QC.
Incredible S: lost connection with screen, new phone (Warranty)
Sensation XE : Lost WIFI/Wifi error after 1 month, changed something (Warranty)
Sensation XE : Wouldn't turn on one week after I got it back, changed mainboard (Warranty)
I don't want to buy a phone that need to be repaired
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The media are great at making problems seem a lot bigger than they are too.
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So are a minority of unhappy owners on this forum. Mine's a March-build that I've had since April. No issues and it works as well today as it did when I got it. Look at it this way, if you're in to martyrdom and you get a bad specimen, there’s no better forum on XDA to find people to commiserate with.
People should really bear in mind that unhappy people with faulty phones make the most noise, and are the most visible online. You wouldn't really see thousands of people yelling on the internet "OMG MY PHONE IS PERFECTLY FINE!!!! HELP!!!"
Ive had my HOX for over two - three months now and its meant to be in the affected batch but mine is perfect (touch wood, touch wood) unlocked bootloaoder flashed many roms its fine
Go for it
XDA
XDA is prob THE single best way for manufacturers to keep tabs on problems with their devices. If I worked either in HTC QC, R&D or marketing I would read EVERY SINGLE POST HERE. Large scale in-house testing is expensive, but large fail rates even more expensive. The amount of valuable information here is greater than the invaluable.
Developing a new phone demands creativity in the R&D department. A bunch of people sit in a room and throw ideas arround, the more people the more ideas and the more messy it get's. Less people is easier to handle, but it might curbe creativity and they might miss that one crazy guy who has a stupid idea who sets of some genius in the corner....a new company could make a phone just by using XDA as R&D
The thing is, every manufacturers accounting department calculates in a certain DOA/fail rate/warranty repair cost in their budget for each device they make. It's a little bit like "will testing this device more cost us more than the estimated return will?" In a sense (humm humm) phones cost more because they calculate a set cost for failure. Then you have the Marketing department, they look at costs connected to loss of market standings. If they end up loosing too much money on returns and marketing can prove loss av brand value, they spend more money on testing. So, XDA in a way is very important.
It's crowdsourcing phone development.....we get better phones because people complain about the stuff that doesn't work!
If you say XDA is just a bunch of nerds and not real people, they I say real people want tomorrow what the nerds have today. Satisfy the nerd, make money on the non-nerds.
XDA
One more thing, in marketing you have the 1-3 rule. You will tell 3 people when you're not satisfied with service or a product, but only 1 when your happy...