Paul O'Brien is over in Seattle at the mo with HTC and has confirmed that the app being in /system/bin has NO affect on battery life. It's a placebo
https://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/193080139280683008
EddyOS said:
Paul O'Brien is over in Seattle at the mo with HTC and has confirmed that the app being in /system/bin has NO affect on battery life. It's a placebo
https://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/193080139280683008
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Been saying this all along. They aren't daft. These RUU's are put together by some very clever people.
It might be a placebo, but it was/is incorrectly placed, is it not?
The correct location is /system/apps right?
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It doesn't matter where it is, the app doesn't do anything
So why release the file if it doesn't do anything ...
sounds more like a misdirection
I trust Paul O'Brien - he knows HTC phones inside and out (and first rooted the One X)
Placebo still works even if the patient knows it is placebo
what htc is doing if it is completely useless?
Maybe but it's a Service that only started when it's under system/apps and Mike and other devs extracted them and found out different power profiles. It's hard to believe that it does nothing. I think HTC is not admitting their mistake.
Paul O'Brien has tested it and found it to have no affect on battery - this isn't HTC saying so
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Paul O'Brien has tested it and found it to have no affect on battery - this isn't HTC saying so
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It might not effect battery life but it must do something, therefore it still needed to be fixed.
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treebill said:
It might not effect battery life but it must do something, therefore it still needed to be fixed.
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But the thing is, this file controls performance profiles, and that should have a direct effect on the scaling of the processor speed and thus the battery, Apperently this file, even though it's loaded after placing it in a different folder, does neither.
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But the thing is, this file controls performance profiles, and that should have a direct effect on the scaling of the processor speed and thus the battery, Apperently this file, even though it's loaded after placing it in a different folder, does neither.
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I understand it, but it doesn't make sense. Paul is "the" man, no doubt there.
If it makes nothing then why was it created?
And further more, why was it left there,again?
Is resume we are saying HTC created something that has no use, was misplaced possibly intentionally and left there for the second ir third time? It might not have a visible impact on the battery but it has to be of some use If the system starts the service when correctly placed.
Just my 2cents obviously.
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Guys I've read Paul's tweet and the htc said that this file does nothig, not Paul. One thing I can say, I see the difference. For first couple of days I didn't have microSIM and the phone was just laying on a desk. I get it on thursday and till friday noon he lost 60% of battery only on wifi. Charged and applied rom with tegra fix friday evening, on sunday afternoon there was 70% of battery left. As I said before I didn't use the phone during these days. So I't quite big difference as for a placebo.
Paul wouldn't say that unless he could confirm that it did nothing. We could do with him posting here and clarify the situation really...if I misquoted then I'll obvious hold my hand up and apologise
That's normal your battery needs some charges.... And in every os there are some services wich do nothing/placeholders etc.
That's the reason why some moders can tweak the System.
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using "current widget" on my full stock 1.26 rom always show more than 1000mA.
on my HD2's idle time show 2-6mA only.
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Paul wouldn't say that unless he could confirm that it did nothing. We could do with him posting here and clarify the situation really...if I misquoted then I'll obvious hold my hand up and apologise
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not to have a go or anything, but there is the possibility that mr Modaco is actually incorrect. The fact is that where the file was, it wouldn't run. The file was supposed to do something (as someone created it and put it on the phone) so having it where it should be sounds like the best bet to me. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure he knows what he's doing, but I do remember unfollowing him on twitter because I found him annoying, i've rarely done that with anyone. He has been wrong in the past, you know
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not to have a go or anything, but there is the possibility that mr Modaco is actually incorrect. The fact is that where the file was, it wouldn't run. The file was supposed to do something (as someone created it and put it on the phone) so having it where it should be sounds like the best bet to me. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure he knows what he's doing, but I do remember unfollowing him on twitter because I found him annoying, i've rarely done that with anyone. He has been wrong in the past, you know
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But he was just passing on the message direct from HTC. If it did actually do anything, they would have fixed it for the 1.28 OTA. Surely?
Yes I know but he's obviously moved the app and tried to see what affect, if any, it has on the phone and in his 'expert' eye it would seem to do nothing. It might not have even been meant to be included in the ROM in the first place!
All I'm saying is that I trust his judgement but I've tweeted him this thread to see if he will contribute. It does seem that people here trust the Devs word for everything without actually getting the whole story...
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While poking and prodding around I found this one click ex2 lagfix for the I9000 and also the Fascinate.. I tried it and it works for our Continuum's also.
Before Lagfix
Quadrant - 1028
After Lagfix
Quadrant - 1770
Antutu Benchmark - 3140
I did not have a chance to test Antutu before I did the lagfix.
Either way here is the link to the file. Make sure you have root, Sammy USB Drivers, ADB, and the latest version of Busybox installed. Turn on USB Debugging and plug your phone into your computer. Unzip the file and double click on 'Lagfixme.bat'.
Follow the onscreen instructions.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK I AM NOT LIABLE!
http://www.mediafire.com/?1yzvjqemmykt9sr
Enjoy!
Is this just the RyanZA's OCLF from market or is this something different? I liked RzaOclf but was really hopin for sum voodoo lagfix since it uses ext4.....and an oc kernal too...
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nodixe said:
Is this just the RyanZA's OCLF from market or is this something different? I liked RzaOclf but was really hopin for sum voodoo lagfix since it uses ext4.....and an oc kernal too...
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i just want init.d support! lol and voodoo lagfix seems like a better idea as its ext4
Glad it's almost 5:00pm. My phone is totally hosed after running this. Won't boot at all. Hangs for a long time at "Verizon Wireless" bootanimation then goes to black screen. Vibrating incessantly as if it's constantly fc'ing something. I figure I should be able to flash from Odin and start fresh.
Peace,
Ray
EDIT: Flashed pastor's DL17 and I still have nothing. I may have a brick on my hands...
lol, don't you know its almost impossible to brick this phone trust me, one way or another, you will be up and working again
also, copy and pasted from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765822
Okay EXT2 is scary, how about EXT4?
You can't afford for your things to get corrupted? Weirdo. Real world performance between EXT4 and EXT2 is barely noticeable if at all, for the everyman this is probably your best bet.
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lol, don't you know its almost impossible to brick this phone trust me, one way or another, you will be up and working again
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A little tired and tightly wound I guess. When all seems lost, WIPE. I ought to know better! All set now.
Ray
market
Is the market working with this? That always seemed to be the issue.
Mine installed just fine first time.. Everything works as it should. It just left me with only 200MB of internal memory.
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However I'm not seeing the 2200's that the Fascinate peeps are seeing. Also removing the lagfix got me stuck in a boot loop that I fixed with a nandroid backup. Just an FYI.
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the oclf lagfix is ancient history and is almost entirely placebo
the sgs world moved on from it by october of last year, fwiw
yes it will give you awesome benchmarks, but real world performance is extremely minimal at best (yes i say this from experience)
Considering development for this phone is nonexistant I'll take whatever excitement I can get... <3 the trolls..
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So is there a up to date real world lagfix? Back on dl17 I had great config but was using so many things (oclf,akmo,cachemate,v6supercharger) I cant remember what made the difference....
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dont use the super charger scripts its garbage all that is, is a placebo affect the truth is every phone has different memory settings so u cant make a universal one ive seen that done over and over but none of them has ever worked.
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Considering development for this phone is nonexistant I'll take whatever excitement I can get... <3 the trolls..
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i wasnt trolling the thread, i was stating the obvious...oclf is not used on any sgs phone for the last 10 months (at least) and it was never much more than a quadrant epeen fix
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i wasnt trolling the thread, i was stating the obvious...oclf is not used on any sgs phone for the last 10 months (at least) and it was never much more than a quadrant epeen fix
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lmao nitsuji is very well know... i dont think theres a single troll in these forums with 1500 posts... but he speaks the truth.. quadrant is a horrible benchmark app.. and ROCLF just makes it skip multiple steps making your phone think its preforming better
EDIT: 3000 post 1500 thanks... you dirty troll
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dont use the super charger scripts its garbage all that is, is a placebo affect the truth is every phone has different memory settings so u cant make a universal one ive seen that done over and over but none of them has ever worked.
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As for the memory issues, the default for the Continuum is much higher than many of the other phones. I put together a little "How To" specifically for the Continuum. Just be careful, because I have seen issues with background apps, that I want to keep running, closed by Android. You really have to play with the numbers to see what works best for you. If anyone wants help with this, let me know.
Caio!
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As for the memory issues, the default for the Continuum is much higher than many of the other phones. I put together a little "How To" specifically for the Continuum. Just be careful, because I have seen issues with background apps, that I want to keep running, closed by Android. You really have to play with the numbers to see what works best for you. If anyone wants help with this, let me know.
Caio!
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Where is the how to? I'll give it a shot. BTW, did the zipalign help at all? I know it did me, but your issues seemed a little more severe.
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Txwolf1980 said:
Where is the how to? I'll give it a shot. BTW, did the zipalign help at all? I know it did me, but your issues seemed a little more severe.
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It's in my OP here: FIXED! - Froyo ROM "closing" the background apps.
Keep in mind YMMV, I would adjust the settings using AMM (Auto Memory Manager) from the market. Because of the aforementioned problems (yes zipalign helped a little bit), and all the friggin' apps I installed and use, I have actually gone back to the default memory settings. I'll start playing with them again starting this weekend. As a System Administrator, I just can't leave well enough alone... My wife doesn't like it when I mess with my phone because I grumble so much when the thing hoses up... It's my fault, I know... But...
Issue: \data partititon become corrupt for no obvious reason.
Manifests itself through: Freezes followed eventually by (endless) reboots
When: Randomly when you install new apps (may be every day as it can happen only every other week/month), or setting up apps (like Twitter, mail, etc)
Temporary solution: Re-flash Samsung FW but lose ALL YOUR DATA. Attention: CWM restore will not fix the problem!
---- Here goes a link to the fabulous mskip's tutorial, you will find here everything you need to get it back up temporarily
I experienced this in 401, 402, 403 and 404, some were expecting better data integrity in 404... I confirm this is not the case
I would not go as far as saying that this is 100% the reason, but it looks like the NAND quality is craaaaaap! There is no external SD card, Android should be able to do a perfect job now at handling info and preserving quality of data.
I will contact Samsung and ask for a refund (if at all possible)... Disgusting thing to put such a piece of s''t on the market without proper testing and call it "flagship/pure Google experience". This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
Any advice, I am inetersted, have tried pretty much everything so far and did not solve the problem...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE? Let your voice heard...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Agree as well ..seems more like rubbish
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Right While i'm catching my breath, found another thread pointing to the same issue IMHO (didn't not see it initially):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490815
Attempting to contact Samsung already...
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
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Your first post came across as a hysterical rant - this is the first I've heard of the problem so it's not affecting many phones, and ultimately Samsung are going to have the occasional dodgy NAND chip. Sounds like you got one.
If you'd had several phones and they'd all exhibited this problem you'd be right to be peeved, but it simply sounds like you've been unlucky and are pissed off about it. Have you even discussed it with Samsung's tech support or taken it back to the shop you bought it from?
And accusing an XDA recognised developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
I've not heard of other people having this problem with the Gnex? Who are these other people having this same problem? Maybe speak with them and see if a replacement phone might solve the problem. I really hope you can get this fixed and not give up on such a great platform.
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This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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...And accusing an XDA recognized developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
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Respect for your dev background (haven't used any of your ROMs yet), in all fairness I'm far less impressed with your communication skills... I must agree though, my message may have come across as too abrupt and you're right again, I am going to sort it out with Samsung...
Did not mean to get people horrified, rather to blow the whistle on a worrying and annoying bug and smth people may consider if they come across or consider a purchase.
For having worked in the mobile comm semiconductors space for years, I know just what sets apart a serious company from a me-too profile. Surprised to see Samsung having this king of issues. Normally they are ironed out easily though SW regression tests and HW stress processes (at least at serious OEMs).
I will let one of the moderators judge if my crime is so serious, your ego will survive, I'm sure I will come back when/if issue solved (or in good progress).
yeah, mine is fine. If it was a widespread problem I would back your corner, but I seems rather isolated. Rather then cause mass hysteria I would say you need to return your handset
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This happened to mine. But only once.
Quite frustrating, as my phone is my alarm clock and it was bootlooping when I needed to go to sleep!
However, a reflash of the 4.0.2 stock images sorted it out, and no problems since. I'm pretty sure I caused it by pulling out the battery at some sensitive point in a reboot or something.
If this happens to you frequently, then you need to exchange your phone.
Also, I think this could be a pretty good resource as opposed to a rant if you put your mind to it. I'm not a developer, but I'm also not a total n00b, and it took me a little while to figure out how to fix the problem, when I had it. I'm sure there are people out there who would appreciate a guide.
In this thread, op is going through that time of the month, when was his own modification back fires in his face, his explosive emotions reek havoc on an online forum.
If you want to see a device with bad nand memory, see the HTC Desire S forum .
Also the reboots and freezes I used to experience on my device were application related. Device hasn't frozen, nor rebooted in about *looks at up time* .. 27 days .
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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... I was actually referring to a poll in another thread (link in this thread) concluding that half of the people who answered have experienced freezes and reboots... it may be biased somewhat by the fact that people who experienced the issue are more likely to vote than those who didn't... maybe an overstatement from me.
Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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First I heard about this too. I've flashed tons of roms and mods and constantly installing uninstalling apps.
The GNex has been anything but non-stable. I think I've had to pull the battery once or twice since ownership. Never heard anyone complain about randomly losing all their data... especially not daily. Perhaps on a bad flash in CWM.
Maybe you should look into a super wipe that completely erases everything, deletes the partition tables and recreates everything from scratch. Maybe it'll help but it honestly sounds defective.
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Thanks Player911... Interesting idea, was thinking as well to do a total wipe and sort of a sector-by-sector reformat, but could not find a way of doing it. Is there any tool that would allow me to do it? Maybe this will isolate bad sectors...
Will check shortly with Samsung folks, thanks mate! (what slows me down is the fact that I'm currently travelling to the US and the guarantee is only European and it's Sunday= hotline is closed in Europe).
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Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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Uhh, I don't believe my reboots are due to this. Just saying. That whole thread does not point to your theory as the issue. I'm gonna go ahead and call this myth busted and suggest you go get a replacement because this is just another extremist "my phone is busted but I refuse to get a new one" thread.
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You've been Samsunged
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Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.
It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.
Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more
Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.
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I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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Hi all,
I got my One X a few weeks ago, very soon after launch (O2). Initially I was very happy with my purchase but now I'm left extremely frustrated with this handset and regretting buying it - screen flicker, dropped calls, lots of little bugs, and now... The camera won't work!
I've been using it quite a bit since I bought it, but yesterday I was using it (no settings changed) and each time I took a picture there was either corruption in the image or a blank image with an exclamation mark icon instead of the picture. This now seems to happen almost every time I try to take a shot - I've done the following in an attempt to rectify:
1. Reboot handset
2. Ensured no other apps are running prior to using camera
3. Reset camera settings to default
4. Ensured phone was fully charged
5. Ensured I have enough free storage space (~22GB free)
I'm not going to perform a factory reset because I'm not convinced it's going to help anything AND I shouldn't really have to do that! I haven't got time to completely reconfigure my phone.
Still, I'm unable to take a photo and this is *really* annoying me! A premium handset with issues all over the place... Unacceptable!
Now I'm left thinking I'm going to go back to O2 and demand replacement with a SGS3, because by the looks of things HTC haven't actually fixed most of the bugs we're all experiencing.
Such a shame - had so much potential and a genuinely amazing device to pick up and use in many ways, but it's quite frankly not fit for purpose if I can't make reliable calls, take pictures or use the screen without serious flickering.
Has anyone else experienced these camera issues I described above?
Apologies for the tl;dr, just a very frustrated HOX owner.
So because you got a faulty phone all the others out there are not fit for purpose?
OK got ya that seems fair
There's something wrong with your particular phone, just get it replaced. The vast majority of people have no flaws whatsoever.
Lol... They won't offer a refund until you do a factory reset. I guarantee a factory reset will fix the problem. Stop having a cry are you 12 or something.
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Lol... They won't offer a refund until you do a factory reset. I guarantee a factory reset will fix the problem. Stop having a cry are you 12 or something.
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Oh the irony of a childish response like that. That's how keyboard warriors really show their age.
For the record no, I'm significantly older and understandably annoyed by the poor quality of a ~£500 handset that I worked hard to pay for.
And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol
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And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
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Yes really. It'd be incredibly foolish to assume that XDA users are representative of the majority of phone users and even more foolish to assume that people who have flawless phones will be just as vociferous as those with flawed phones.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol
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Why don't you try and reflash your phone with a RUU or return it for replacement?
Well that's what I've done - just booked it in with O2 so will see what happens.
Still interested to know whether anyone has had this camera issue though?
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Oh the irony of a childish response like that. That's how keyboard warriors really show their age.
For the record no, I'm significantly older and understandably annoyed by the poor quality of a ~£500 handset that I worked hard to pay for.
And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol
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No just no. A high proportion of XDA USERS' HOX's have problems. Maybe because most have noticed a problem and have done a google search to find xda as one of the first links. They sign up and vote/make a topic about their problem, now to you and the rest of us it looks like most of the handsets are suffering from some sort of problem.
Most take this on board without looking at the big picture, those normal run of the mill users that don't have any use for xda, don't post about problems because they don't have any.
Stop being so closed minded xda is not the be all and end all of android. There are users out there that have never herd of xda or even ics.
It's pointless complaining here with such an aggressive attitude just do the factory reset and be done with it atleast if you do it now you'll be able to backup your apps via abd/fastboot.
IMHO your just childish, you need to suck it up and stop being such a girl.
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No just no. A high proportion of XDA USERS' HOX's have problems. Maybe because most have noticed a problem and have done a google search to find xda as one of the first links. They sign up and vote/make a topic about their problem, now to you and the rest of us it looks like most of the handsets are suffering from some sort of problem.
Most take this on board without looking at the big picture, those normal run of the mill users that don't have any use for xda, don't post about problems because they don't have any.
Stop being so closed minded xda is not the be all and end all of android. There are users out there that have never herd of xda or even ics.
It's pointless complaining here with such an aggressive attitude just do the factory reset and be done with it atleast if you do it now you'll be able to backup your apps via abd/fastboot.
IMHO your just childish, you need to suck it up and stop being such a girl.
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Right, so how about the fact that I've actually read a variety of other forums including some of the operators' own too? You have ASSUMED that I have only looked at XDA.
Aggressive?! Childish?! I think you're reading into things too much here... What part of "man pays relatively large sum for device and is disappointed by its many flaws" do you not get?
Anyway, this is boring me; I guess I'll never know if anyone else actually has the same camera issues...
Lol you still don't get it. Some people just do not know about forums. Unless you get a number from HTC that states how many returns per device made. Nobody, not you or me will know. Not reading anything other than what's on my screen. I'm defensive, by logic you're aggressive.
I guess you won't. Everyone else just ran a factory reset instead of crying about it.
Anyway like most of the threads on here its no longer about the op's post and more about the ego of the people posting. I'll admit I am at fault sorry if I derailed your thread..
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Did u updated to 1.28? In 1.26 some pics cannot be processed,this has been solved completely in .1.28
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Adamsharif;
You do seem to have a phone that, under UK law does not appear to be fit for the purpose for which it is intended, regardless of the warranty obligations of HTC.
In reality, you should back everything up and factory reset the phone, if only to rule out any problems which could be solved, by doing this. If then, the phone does not work, you are well within your rights to demand a refund or a replacement.
If you're not willing to do a simple reset to fix potential issue, HTC and the users here are definitely not going to be willing to help you out. We can't reset the phone for you, but you still want to fix it by using and looking at the phone until it behaves itself.
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Right, so how about the fact that I've actually read a variety of other forums including some of the operators' own too? You have ASSUMED that I have only looked at XDA.
Aggressive?! Childish?! I think you're reading into things too much here... What part of "man pays relatively large sum for device and is disappointed by its many flaws" do you not get?
Anyway, this is boring me; I guess I'll never know if anyone else actually has the same camera issues...
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Here you go, proof that the majority of XDA members have no issues whatsoever with their device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585082
Of course, people with no problems don't post much on forums, so the actual, real-world results of such a poll would be MUCH more one-sided.
As for your camera problem, many people have suggested fixes; Factory Reset, re-flashing RUU and, if all else fails, return the device and get a refund/replacement.
People seem to think their £500 device is going to be perfect. Don't get me wrong, It SHOULD be perfect, but no device is ever going to be. The HTC One X issues are also relatively minor compared to some devices that came before it.
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Did u updated to 1.28? In 1.26 some pics cannot be processed,this has been solved completely in .1.28
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Exactly. There's an old thread about this issue. Fixed with 1.28
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Ok, I guess I shouldn't have been so stubborn - currently backing up the device and will do a factory reset.
The backlight issue, however, is the one I'm returning for - the thing I find strange about both that and the camera issue is that they suddenly appear which really makes me feel that there are hardware issues in the first batch.
Lesson learned - don't buy a handset as soon as it comes out!
Personally I feel that mobile manufacturers need to undertake better testing and not rush their products to market - if you look at many of the recent handsets from Apple, Samsung, HTC there have been a lot of silly issues which have damaged reputations.
If I can have a HOX with working camera, backlight and calling it will be the perfect device!
You don't want to change your phone and yet you can't live with the problems. What do you want? Just ranting? Got it.
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ALL THE CORRUPTION ISSUES EXCEPT FLICKER are solved by firmware 1.29
My new hox was updated to 1.29 two days after I bought it, I never encountered the said issues, also flicker is related to overheat on 1.29 the phone temperature is a lot better
you regret buying the most praised and critically acclaimed android phone lol
I think we're being a little harsh on adamsharif, I love my HOX but its not without it's flaws and some of the 1.26 bugs were just messy...the phone shouldn't have been released with this firmware...it was rushed but I can understand why with the SG3 looming!
Unfortunately the average user turns to a forum when he / she has issues, the average user doesn't sign up to XDA to just say how happy they are, some do, just not your average joe, so it all looks like doom & gloom!
£500 is a lot of money, should we have to factory reset it after a few days / weeks? Should we not expect a near perfect product considering the money spent....I don't know....android isnt a perfect OS so I think the arsehole answer is get an iPhone!? I think in 3 months time we'll all be happier and mostly problem free!
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Guys please stop the pointless comments.
Back on topic. I suggest you try a third party camera app from market and see if that works. If it works, i too believe that hard reset will solve the problem. Also, don't underestimate hard reset. It usually solves most unknown issues
Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
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Hi all,
I currently have a Samsung GS3, but I've been thinking about moving over to the one x. I much prefer the design and general feel of the handset. The main thing that's bugging me is the battery, I understand it'll be a down step from the GS3, I'm willing to sacrifice that, I'm just wondering how people deal with it... Custom kernels helping with battery etc.
I usually charge my phone every night, so will that be ok to live with the one x?
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Battery life is really good with the custom kernels and roms
Standby time is amazing. I left my phone overnight, started at 60% battery, about 6 or so hours later, guess how much I had left? 59%.
Screen on time isn't brilliant, but the average is 3-4 hours screen on time for most people.
The battery life is a massive step up from my dhd, certainly the gs2, and this is mainly down to the companion core in the tegra 3.
Don't fret about the battery life. I can't say for definite, but it's probably better than GS3 imo. This companion core really does do wonders
Edit: you mention you normally charge overnight, I do if I want to have a full charge for the next day, but with this phone its not actually necessary to charge overnight. Assuming you have at least some battery left lol
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Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
It's not too complicated, just make sure you read instructions carefully. The only problem is no s-off yet, so you have to flash boot.img in fastboot mode using computer and unlock via HTC.dev
About battery. It's a biggest problem for me, but I'm a heavy user and sometimes charge during the day. But using it for music, sometimes browser, mail it should last during the day. Just make sure in the evening you have charger I mean, using auto brightness and switching off connections when not needed. despite of this, I really love this phone.
You'll fall in love too
I'm having great battery life with the OrDroid ROM. Averaging almost 4.5 hours of on screen time. Not anywhere near my 6.5 hours with the GS3, but I prefer the One X in most situations.
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Brilliant cheers for the reply. I'll give it ago I think and see what happens.
Seems to me that the rooting and installing custom ROM method is a lot more complicated on the HOX... Is that the case or am I just thinking its a lot more difficult?
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To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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To be honest, rooting the Samsung phones looks complicated (I've never done it) however I'm sure it's fairly straightforward to do, once you know how Likewise with the hox, pretty easy once you know how.
Don't be put off by that, the rooting of hox is pretty easy, there's a good guide here that says literally everything you need to do it. Just read it a few times before attempting anything (do this with any of these sorta things imo) I think it's in general section you should be able to find it easily enough
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I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
Just ordered one
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I have them both. The Samsung can be rooted right out of the box in one step. A whole lot easier.
But, once you get the hang of both of them, it's not that difficult to work with either.
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Gotta say, this whole thing with HTC unnecessarily locking them down is gonna make me think hard when it comes to next phone
If it's the same as now, won't be that bad, it's just what else are htc going to do in future to restrict this development?
From their point of view I guess they have unlocked them, previous phones were just locked down but not very well.. They've just done the job properly on locking it down this time (pity not on qc lol)
Gah damn these stupid policies
Probably the wrong place for my little rant lol ^_^
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