Hey guys sorry if this is a stupid question, but I heard using task killer has some sort of negative effect? If I downloaded the latest task killer from the market would it hurt anything when I use it? I've avoided them forever and now I'm trying to save as much battery as possible so I figured i'd get a task killer. Any advice would be appreciated
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If you wanna save battery underclock and/or freeze active services you don't use.
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My understanding is sometimes they kill services that android needs running, causing android to just start them up again and wasting more battery. From my experience juice defender is a better option for battery saving.
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If you know what you are doing, yes. If an Android service keeps showing up then set it to ignore or whitelist it. There are still apps out there that once loaded do not release the memory back to the system so killing those is effective. If there are tons of apps in the task killer list then you will notice your phone slow down so that BS about android handling memory is just that. It is also useful to see apps that you don't use loading parts into memory. You can freeze them, list them in Autostarts or uninstall them if they are not really used.
Uninstall it and just use the v6 script set to aggressive.
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kennyglass123 said:
If you know what you are doing, yes. If an Android service keeps showing up then set it to ignore or whitelist it. There are still apps out there that once loaded do not release the memory back to the system so killing those is effective. If there are tons of apps in the task killer list then you will notice your phone slow down so that BS about android handling memory is just that. It is also useful to see apps that you don't use loading parts into memory. You can freeze them, list them in Autostarts or uninstall them if they are not really used.
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The kernel actually does keep memory open.
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marcusant said:
The kernel actually does keep memory open.
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Lies! All lies!
Lol
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Sweet thanks guys that's all I needed to know. I spent the last day or so setting up v6 on aokp and cm9 and finally got jd ultimate, but could one of you tell me what I would need to get rid of in the init.d folder to make the settings stick so I wouldn't have to have a script run at boot? It doesn't really bother me I just figured I'd ask
Thanks again!
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Hey guys I was wondering if you could use the Autokiller app in Avalunch's V10 rom on Cyanogen 6.1 stable? Help me out if any one knows or has tried this before thanks!
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Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.
Thanks bro!!!!
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terrel_b said:
Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.
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do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.
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do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.
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Froyo is a big boy compared to its younger siblings and can take care of apps itself. 99% of the time, it's opening something in the background because it thinks you're going to be using it soon, or because you have a widget for that app on your home screen.
Do I need any task killer or they are just taking memory & slowing down the phone ?
Everytime I open it I have a hole bunch of apps running & some will open right away before I Evan exit the task killer ?
I tried most task killers but nothing seams to actually work properly .
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I would not recommend using a task killer. Android OS has a built in task killer that will kill apps if they're taking up too much memory. Using a task killer, more often than not, can actually INCREASE battery usage instead of helping it.
Do I need an anti virus ?
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oranium said:
Do I need an anti virus ?
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No. That's a common misconception brought on by Android Haters. Unless you install random third party apps that seem sketchy, you won't need to worry about any viruses. On top of that, any app that is infected is sandboxed from other ones so they could ONLY affect that app and not others. But the point of this post is no, you won't have to worry about anything. Android is actually pretty safe
many apps you think are running (you see them in the task killer) are not actually running but rather just cached so that they can be opened faster. This is how Android works. True the caching takes up a small amount of memory but you're not wasting CPU cycles on those apps.
Wow thx that's good to know .
Thx to you all here @ XDA you guys ROCK !!!
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I thought they'd be about the same but like when I click the app killer widget on Cm6 I got almost 280mb or whatever and on mikifroyo only 180mb
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that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...
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that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...
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Yes it does......................it drains your battery quicker!
How much memory is left is not = to how fast it runs. CM 6 also only has wimax in alpha, has no hdmi. It doesn't have sense. So of course it has more memory left.
as others have said the memory you are looking at is phone storage this is not the RAM type memory on a computer and it has no affect on your speed. The biggest reason for the difference is the lack of sense and htc widgets/apps. you can get similar memory amounts (though never as much) by removing rosie and htc widgets/bloatware from sense based roms.
CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.
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it drains your battery quicker!
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i lol'd at that part, but yeah don't use task killers, it's like this, i have a computer,no better yet an xbox...i have 19/20 gigs free, the xbox will run the same if it has 1 or 20 free. That's just storage space, its not anything else
Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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Read up.......... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974
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Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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in short, in 2.2 and above, you kill a task, android restarts it. nuff said. wasting cpu cycles and battery suffers from it
Ok ya that makes sense thanks. What about on other roms like cm or miui? Are they useless there too?
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From what I know anything based on 2.2+ has app management built in so task killers are worthless. So pretty much any of those roms. Don't worry about using it.
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CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.
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My method is not scientific... I have ~ 200 photos on my sd card. I've tryd warm 2.2/ and miks... miks was faster loading photos than warm.
I went to cm6/// then 7 nightlys. The photos load 4x faster. In fairness I loaded CM6 gallery (availble on market) into miks and there was no difference in speed CM is hands down... faster IMHO
I use a start up manager it keeps apps from starting up in the first place. After that a app killer really isn't necessary. I still keep one installed just encase a app hangs for some reason. Yes I have read all the threads about app killers. Also a full hard drive will be slower than one that isn't. It's true that app killers don't really work that well but start up killers will.
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What about the task killer in miui when u hold the home button? Is that bad too? Jw and i dont understand how they don't work bc when I first start my phone its slow but once i killed them its faster? I know u guys know better but just hard to beleive... Thanks btw
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 here is the link..will this help our phones??
It can help any phone. Read the posts on how it works and what it does. Especially by prioritizing the launcher, phone and SMS/mms activities to stop Android from shutting services down. Bulletproof launcher and apps services are a plus, prevents lag on your most important switches. I use it on all my devices just for that. Try it out. It's reversible.
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It can help any phone. Read the posts on how it works and what it does. Especially by prioritizing the launcher, phone and SMS/mms activities to stop Android from shutting services down. Bulletproof launcher and apps services are a plus, prevents lag on your most important switches. I use it on all my devices just for that. Try it out. It's reversible.
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im just lost on how to use it....but ima try thank you
Get SManager Ad supported from the market. Download the script. It will walk you through a few options and reboots to help you optimize your device based on how you use it. Read the instructions as the come up for some of them because it does give you hints. For phones with 700 or more ram to use, 1000 hp or 768 hp are good choices. You'll have to run it more than once though to get all the options sorted through. It'll setup scripts to run at boot for a lot of it after you run through, so you won't need to do it on every boot. Once your device goes through a few cycles and gets used to the options, or you, compare. It doesn't effect benchmarks much, but it's all about use. Good luck and have fun.
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Hey guys, I always wandered why apps run I'm background even though its been 2 weeks or so since u used them.
How can I prevent that from happening?
The reason I am asking is because those apps kill my ram. My ram hit 80% occupied and every time I have to hit kill tasks.
Some other times I hit kill tasks but those apps keep running in background sooo annoying.
I also installed greenify which hibernate those apps and they keep running.
I don't wanna install them cause I use them from time to time. So what could be the solution for this problem?
Please help thanks a lot.
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The run at startup. Some do. Restart your phone check what's running and uninstall or stop the processes
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I already limited that to only the apps I want to start at boot. So u don't think that's the issue.
At boot things go well but after 4 days things start to get messy and apps start in background by it self and when I kill them, they just load again. Its nuts.
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If that happens I just uninstall things I don't need etc like 3rd party lunchers keyboards all that uses ram
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Android is designed to do this..
Do a search for how android / linux kernel managed ram.. YOUR Fighting your phone and how it works by killing off apps. If you device needs the ram it will kill off the least used app ..
but there are some rogue apps. IF THE APP Creates account LIKE Facevirus
you have to disable its sync settings.. ohh and you will have to do so every day or to it turns its setting back to suit there needs not yours..
other rogue apps do the same..
If you are rooted, you can use Greenify. With this you can hibernate any application that starts in background which will save both your RAM and Battery.
Search for this app on XDA or Play store
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