I thought they'd be about the same but like when I click the app killer widget on Cm6 I got almost 280mb or whatever and on mikifroyo only 180mb
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that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...
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that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...
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Yes it does......................it drains your battery quicker!
How much memory is left is not = to how fast it runs. CM 6 also only has wimax in alpha, has no hdmi. It doesn't have sense. So of course it has more memory left.
as others have said the memory you are looking at is phone storage this is not the RAM type memory on a computer and it has no affect on your speed. The biggest reason for the difference is the lack of sense and htc widgets/apps. you can get similar memory amounts (though never as much) by removing rosie and htc widgets/bloatware from sense based roms.
CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.
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it drains your battery quicker!
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i lol'd at that part, but yeah don't use task killers, it's like this, i have a computer,no better yet an xbox...i have 19/20 gigs free, the xbox will run the same if it has 1 or 20 free. That's just storage space, its not anything else
Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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Read up.......... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974
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Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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in short, in 2.2 and above, you kill a task, android restarts it. nuff said. wasting cpu cycles and battery suffers from it
Ok ya that makes sense thanks. What about on other roms like cm or miui? Are they useless there too?
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From what I know anything based on 2.2+ has app management built in so task killers are worthless. So pretty much any of those roms. Don't worry about using it.
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CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.
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My method is not scientific... I have ~ 200 photos on my sd card. I've tryd warm 2.2/ and miks... miks was faster loading photos than warm.
I went to cm6/// then 7 nightlys. The photos load 4x faster. In fairness I loaded CM6 gallery (availble on market) into miks and there was no difference in speed CM is hands down... faster IMHO
I use a start up manager it keeps apps from starting up in the first place. After that a app killer really isn't necessary. I still keep one installed just encase a app hangs for some reason. Yes I have read all the threads about app killers. Also a full hard drive will be slower than one that isn't. It's true that app killers don't really work that well but start up killers will.
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What about the task killer in miui when u hold the home button? Is that bad too? Jw and i dont understand how they don't work bc when I first start my phone its slow but once i killed them its faster? I know u guys know better but just hard to beleive... Thanks btw
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Hey guys I was wondering if you could use the Autokiller app in Avalunch's V10 rom on Cyanogen 6.1 stable? Help me out if any one knows or has tried this before thanks!
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Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.
Thanks bro!!!!
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Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.
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do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.
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do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.
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Froyo is a big boy compared to its younger siblings and can take care of apps itself. 99% of the time, it's opening something in the background because it thinks you're going to be using it soon, or because you have a widget for that app on your home screen.
Do I need any task killer or they are just taking memory & slowing down the phone ?
Everytime I open it I have a hole bunch of apps running & some will open right away before I Evan exit the task killer ?
I tried most task killers but nothing seams to actually work properly .
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I would not recommend using a task killer. Android OS has a built in task killer that will kill apps if they're taking up too much memory. Using a task killer, more often than not, can actually INCREASE battery usage instead of helping it.
Do I need an anti virus ?
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oranium said:
Do I need an anti virus ?
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No. That's a common misconception brought on by Android Haters. Unless you install random third party apps that seem sketchy, you won't need to worry about any viruses. On top of that, any app that is infected is sandboxed from other ones so they could ONLY affect that app and not others. But the point of this post is no, you won't have to worry about anything. Android is actually pretty safe
many apps you think are running (you see them in the task killer) are not actually running but rather just cached so that they can be opened faster. This is how Android works. True the caching takes up a small amount of memory but you're not wasting CPU cycles on those apps.
Wow thx that's good to know .
Thx to you all here @ XDA you guys ROCK !!!
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Just curious who else is using the LookOut app?
I've been using it on my past three devices, Galaxy4G, LG G2X and SGSII...seems pretty cool... I don't know... what do you all think?
1. Curious how much system resource it uses to be running in the background constantly?
2. How much does it really effect the battery?
3. Is it worth even having?
Pros:
I like the locate, back up and scan features.
i use it, also for the location (in case i lose it) and it scans my apps (i dont know if it actually makes a difference)...but it doesnt seem to lag my phone at all and there is no noticeable battery drain
that is the first thing i removed from the stock ROM
Can you list the reasons why?
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that is the first thing i removed from the stock ROM
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i have also used it on my past devices and i love it and it doesnt use much cpu and its free
If you are looking for a phone locator try Cerberus. Its under $5 and its one time fee.
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I use it but only cause I haven't rooted my device
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Just curious, what is the difference between using LookOut on a rooted vs non-rooted device?
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I use it but only cause I haven't rooted my device
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Can you list the reasons why?
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on my old phones, it slowed them down, in this phone i don't think it will make any speed difference
but we are safe, and i see no reason to use it
if you just wan GPS tracking, the build in Google Maps feature have it
and there are tons of other phone retrieval apps that consumes less resources than look out, and can be activated with SMS
also look out is extremely annoying as they keep spamming you with junk mail for as long as you are using their app
2 free Market apps that really do the job:
MemoryBar Simple - Small status bar icon displaying free memory at 1 second intervals with seemingly no adverse effect on resources.
FMR Memory Cleaner - Wow, frees up memory like I have never seen. I was hovering around 100mb free, I used Fast Reboot Pro (up till now my go to memory free-up app) which freed up 70mb, which gave 170mb free, then tried FMR.. which resulted in 217mb free! Mind you, it did drop immediately to around 200, but the fact it frees up that much speaks for itself.
Seriously stellar apps.
Let me know how they work for you. Tips welcome. At least click "thanks".
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They both work great!
I had to do a double take. I can't believe how much memory FMR shakes out.
I especially like MemoryBar! I though I had a good memory widget, but MemoryBar takes up very little real estate, and on the status bar at that. If you remove the background on it, it looks even better. Plus being able to have 1 second intervals with seemingly no impact on resources, makes it perfect for being able to know what is causing memory spikes and make sure my memory management apps actually do what they claim.
Thanks a tonne.
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They both work great!
I had to do a double take. I can't believe how much memory FMR shakes out.
I especially like MemoryBar! I though I had a good memory widget, but MemoryBar takes up very little real estate, and on the status bar at that. If you remove the background on it, it looks even better. Plus being able to have 1 second intervals with seemingly no impact on resources, makes it perfect for being able to know what is causing memory spikes and make sure my memory management apps actually do what they claim.
Thanks a tonne.
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No problem. Ya i like deselecting the background on MemoryBar too. The background is kinda useless as it makes it harder to read anyways.
Thanks for the feedback.
anybody has a link to FMR apk? I can't find it in the market...Thanks
Use FMR on many roms now and before it's a great app indeed.
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Dougfresh said:
anybody has a link to FMR apk? I can't find it in the market...Thanks
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Sure thing. It probably would have been a good idea to include links. Sorry about that.
FMR-
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fantasmosoft.free_memory_recover&hl=en
MemoryBar Simple-
https://market.android.com/details?id=jp.sakurasoftwear.memorybar_simple&feature=search_result
If you dig these apps, please hit me up with a Thanks on the Thanks Meter.
And thanks for the feedback.
The only problem is FMR doesnt show up in the Market when using MIUI ROMs.
That's ok with me though. I don't mind just sticking to the other awesome ICS ROMs so long as I get that much memory freed up.
Took me from 70 to 220, dropped down to 155 by the time I wrote this message. Love the monitoring app.
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The only problem is FMR doesnt show up in the Market when using MIUI ROMs.
That's ok with me though. I don't mind just sticking to the other awesome ICS ROMs so long as I get that much memory freed up.
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Funny you say that cuz I was just trying out a new ICS MIUI and had to switch back because of that. lol
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Took me from 70 to 220, dropped down to 155 by the time I wrote this message. Love the monitoring app.
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Right on. Glad to hear it bro.
It says that the app isn't compatible with my device (FMR) bumer
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It says that the app isn't compatible with my device (FMR) bumer
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What ROM are you using?
Dpi settings?
Shows up for me on my SGS running ICS but not on my tablet running Gingerbread, which is a bummer as I'd like to use it on my tablet
gigeaky said:
It says that the app isn't compatible with my device (FMR) bumer
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Same here, ROM ICSSGS RC 4.1
rienkandroid said:
Same here, ROM ICSSGS RC 4.1
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same here, using jvu+semaphore
I don't think its available for Gingerbread.
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If anyone can confirm this for me so I can edit my initial post, it would be greatly appreciated.
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If anyone can confirm this for me so I can edit my initial post, it would be greatly appreciated.
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So far that has been my experience.
Gratz on the new tab. Nice one too!
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So far that has been my experience.
Gratz on the new tab. Nice one too!
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Thanks. It's pretty sweet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517653
FMR Not compatible. CNA, glitch
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Hey guys sorry if this is a stupid question, but I heard using task killer has some sort of negative effect? If I downloaded the latest task killer from the market would it hurt anything when I use it? I've avoided them forever and now I'm trying to save as much battery as possible so I figured i'd get a task killer. Any advice would be appreciated
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If you wanna save battery underclock and/or freeze active services you don't use.
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My understanding is sometimes they kill services that android needs running, causing android to just start them up again and wasting more battery. From my experience juice defender is a better option for battery saving.
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If you know what you are doing, yes. If an Android service keeps showing up then set it to ignore or whitelist it. There are still apps out there that once loaded do not release the memory back to the system so killing those is effective. If there are tons of apps in the task killer list then you will notice your phone slow down so that BS about android handling memory is just that. It is also useful to see apps that you don't use loading parts into memory. You can freeze them, list them in Autostarts or uninstall them if they are not really used.
Uninstall it and just use the v6 script set to aggressive.
~Marcusant
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If you know what you are doing, yes. If an Android service keeps showing up then set it to ignore or whitelist it. There are still apps out there that once loaded do not release the memory back to the system so killing those is effective. If there are tons of apps in the task killer list then you will notice your phone slow down so that BS about android handling memory is just that. It is also useful to see apps that you don't use loading parts into memory. You can freeze them, list them in Autostarts or uninstall them if they are not really used.
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The kernel actually does keep memory open.
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marcusant said:
The kernel actually does keep memory open.
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Lies! All lies!
Lol
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Sweet thanks guys that's all I needed to know. I spent the last day or so setting up v6 on aokp and cm9 and finally got jd ultimate, but could one of you tell me what I would need to get rid of in the init.d folder to make the settings stick so I wouldn't have to have a script run at boot? It doesn't really bother me I just figured I'd ask
Thanks again!
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