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Duel Core Phones?

Hi,
There hasn't been much if any news about duel core WP7 devices. It would be nice if M$ or any of the manufactures would update us on their newer devices.

I don't know how the cores dueling is going to help performance but I'd like to see some 'duel' core phones too.
Dual core phones would be nice too

Phone Titan said:
Hi,
There hasn't been much if any news about duel core WP7 devices. It would be nice if M$ or any of the manufactures would update us on their newer devices.
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It would be nice if we could change the CPU like a desktop or laptop (that is not made by Apple obviously), unfortunately, that wouldn't be happening anytime soon.
Oh right, I have a feeling that we will see them when people actually care.

I still can't see why so many people keep talking about dual core phones.
There are no operating systems or even apps that would be able to utilise a dual core system, so there would be zero benefit.

What applications do you have that need dual cores?
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the_scotsman said:
I still can't see why so many people keep talking about dual core phones.
There are no operating systems or even apps that would be able to utilise a dual core system, so there would be zero benefit.
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Totally agree, that's my thoughts ;D I got Omnia7 for 600$ which is very low in my country, but those with dual cores will cost 200$ or even more, than I got my Omnia7. And the benefits from them? Now there are none

landwomble said:
What applications do you have that need dual cores?
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Only games for the most part. Imagine dual core right now like quad core for your computer.

It was said that the upcoming OS update would bring support to the Qualcomm 7x30 chip, which is an improved version of the current Snapdragon but unfortunately is not dual core.

canadariot2312 said:
Only games for the most part. Imagine dual core right now like quad core for your computer.
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There are no games created to be laggy on single core 1Ghz processor now. And Well, I don't want to play super duper games, that eat a lot of power, I have PSP and Computer for them. For simpler games, they work perfectly now

Eh, my single core runs WP7 games smoother than androids dual cores run their games mainly because of things like multi-tasking and improper use of hardware. I still dont think android has a game that can go toe to toe with ilomilo in terms of... well... anything amd it runs flawlessly.

Niiceg said:
There are no games created to be laggy on single core 1Ghz processor now. And Well, I don't want to play super duper games
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Really? Please do some research, as this is a topic that is full of BS lies. There are a lot of games that lag on 1ghz, especially the new ones.

z33dev33l said:
Eh, my single core runs WP7 games smoother than androids dual cores run their games mainly because of things like multi-tasking and improper use of hardware. I still dont think android has a game that can go toe to toe with ilomilo in terms of... well... anything amd it runs flawlessly.
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Your WP7 isn't even capable of running the new games, so how is that possible?

vetvito said:
Really? Please do some research, as this is a topic that is full of BS lies. There are a lot of games that lag on 1ghz, especially the new ones.
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On WP7? Well, I don't play need for speed and games that requires a lot resources, because that's why computers and PSPs are

vetvito said:
Your WP7 isn't even capable of running the new games, so how is that possible?
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What do you mean by "the new ones" because I have every game released with heavy graphics and the only slow point in the games is the initial startup which im ok with.

Niiceg said:
On WP7? Well, I don't play need for speed and games that requires a lot resources, because that's why computers and PSPs are
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Need for speed doesn't use a lot of resources.

z33dev33l said:
What do you mean by "the new ones" because I have every game released with heavy graphics and the only slow point in the games is the initial startup which im ok with.
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No you don't because they're not on WP7. IOS and Android only right now.

vetvito said:
Need for speed doesn't use a lot of resources.
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My mind was that I don't play games which uses a lot of resources, phones are not for them...

vetvito said:
No you don't because they're not on WP7. IOS and Android only right now.
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Like what? on android? the only playable game on there that doesnt have a port to WP7 is angry birds
Iphone of course has rage HD which is awesome but even ilomilo has better graphics than any android game and thats an early game. Best game on android that doesnt have a port aside from angry birds... probably dungeon hunter HD... graphics are about at par with my old sega saturn.

z33dev33l said:
Like what? on android? the only playable game on there that doesnt have a port to WP7 is angry birds
Iphone of course has rage HD which is awesome but even ilomilo has better graphics than any android game and thats an early game. Best game on android that doesnt have a port aside from angry birds... probably dungeon hunter HD... graphics are about at par with my old sega saturn.
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Yeah you're clueless. Try Dungeon Defenders along with a host of others.
Ilomo has better graphics? Who has the better gaming engine?
Please do some research, please.

vetvito said:
Yeah you're clueless. Try Dungeon Defenders along with a host of others.
Ilomo has better graphics? Who has the better gaming engine?
Please do some research, please.
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Honestly wasnt aware they finally released that. Android finally has something over WP7 in my opinion. That's cool really, i envy that game but meh, one game isnt going to sale me over a fluid user friendly UI but no sarcasm or anything I really am envious of that game and with windows and unreal being tied together so much I'd love to see a port. I guess I havent paid that much attention to android since that game was in it's beta stage.

xperia play psp games?

why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone

OMG Have you even tried to use the search function? This has been asked so often and the answhere stays NOOOOOOOOOOOO! PSP Games are not open source so unly the original devs could do that but they wont becouse PSP games cost about 30$ and android games much less. Got it?

psxpetey said:
why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
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Sure. Fetch.

So do you think a pentium 1 that is more that 333 mhz can play psp games?
Mhz means nothing.

a pentium computer need to emulate all the cpu instruction.... I think that a arm cpu (like these in our smartphone) will be more appropriate to emulate the psp wich use the same type of instruction.... so must of the cpu instruction don't have to be converted to something else.... The dreamcast is in the same case....
Where sony may have some trouble... is how the psp use 2 chip to do the job.... the interaction between the media engine and the cpu is more complex then what you may think.... and with only one chip(current smartphone), that interaction is pretty hard to reproduce/emulate...

my bad i forgot it was dualcore and watnot and i searched after i posted i delete this shortly

i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now

Why would you need PSP games, when you can play PC games?

The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.

gohanks10 said:
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
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less then 3 years?? i predict 2012, with tegra 3 already here with its 12 core GPU and other CPU manufacturers not wanting to be to behind for long quad core will be more common place and should be able to emulate PSP games, maybe even dreamcast......

couldnt agree more, it would be the best game we have! same applies for rolando on iphone, all it needs is the shoulder buttons to rotate

the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows

Logseman said:
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)

Well think about it.. Even PSX emulation isn't perfect on the Play, what makes you think PSP would run any better?

Maison Looi said:
funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
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I didn't know it was available but it's only for Japan, it seems

psxpetey said:
the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
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Many of the games are nearly identical between Android and iPhone, there are tons of great games for it. Yes iPhone has more, but you also have to use touch controls which suck.
The PS Suite will be out in a month or so for this phone with tons of PSX ports, This phone is by far a better gaming device.
PS I loved Raptor: Call of the Shadows, but it was hardly any sort of super blockbuster A title. Awesome old games (like Sonic CD, GTA 3, etc) have been ported to both at the same time, and they are better on Android

I <3 Raptor too... Retro gaming FTW!

XPlay vs PS2: Better?

Which has the ability to have better graphics? Xperia Play or PS2? I was checking out the Desert Winds game demo, and I was thinking that the Xperia Play might have it better? But then I have never owned a PS2 before...

Specwise the Xperia Play should be able to play better games, but it also has to handle a lot of other processes. I think it's about even.

PS2 of course. PS2 have lot of games.

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PS2 of course. PS2 have lot of games.
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What does quantity of games have to do with graphics capabilities?
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It actually depends on the game. Gameloft games will not look as good whereas other games that were not ported over from iOS will look better. Every game will look good on PS2 because that's what it was made for. Most of the games we play on the Xplay are ports that look worse. Compare Asphalt 6 on android to iOS. It's a lot shinier and better on iOS.

Potato13 said:
It actually depends on the game. Gameloft games will not look as good whereas other games that were not ported over from iOS will look better. Every game will look good on PS2 because that's what it was made for. Most of the games we play on the Xplay are ports that look worse. Compare Asphalt 6 on android to iOS. It's a lot shinier and better on iOS.
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isn't the play as good as iPhones hardware wise?
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The question is about potential. Not what is already out.
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KindaUndisputed said:
isn't the play as good as iPhones hardware wise?
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Not the iphone 4S, idk about the 4. But my point is that gameloft games are ported over from iOS and always look worse on Android.

Potato13 said:
Not the iphone 4S, idk about the 4. But my point is that gameloft games are ported over from iOS and always look worse on Android.
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Agree. Take a look at modern combat 3, in IOS, it's mote brighter than on our android phones. The resolution.
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This is a rather silly thread when you think about it. You are comparing a phone to a gaming system. That's like asking "Which is better - a Hot Wheels Boss Hoss, or the 2013 Ford Mustang?"
-- "Well, the Boss Hoss is a nice shiny silver color, but I can run it over with my Yugo, so I'd say the 2013 Ford Mustang is better."
-- "Yeah, but the Hot Wheels car is really fuel efficient!"
-- "Well, my Yugo gets good gas mileage!"
-- "Yeah, but it can't go up a steep hill like the 2013 Ford Mustang!"
-- "Well, neither can your Hot Wheels car, dude!"
YEESH!!

the stories in ps2 are better but the gameplay in xperia play is better thats my opinion

I'm not sure if this is right, but I'm thinking that the XPlay has better graphics power than the PS2. Does anyone think the XPlay is capable of running a game like Tomb Raider Underworld?

neverwinter said:
I'm not sure if this is right, but I'm thinking that the XPlay has better graphics power than the PS2. Does anyone think the XPlay is capable of running a game like Tomb Raider Underworld?
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If someone decides to port it, I'm sure it could. Just don't expect something in 1080p

Trygon said:
What does quantity of games have to do with graphics capabilities?
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I don't know, you might have to ask Call of Duty and Crysis fans.

yes , xplay can play better game , but IF sony suuport us ass well as possible

xPlay is better...more noob-friendly i think

[Q] The True Playstation Phone: What do You Make Believe it to be?

With all the commotion and discontent over the failed ICS update, I thought it might be more worthwhile to formulate and discuss ideas on features we'd want in the true Playstation Phone. People speculated and imagined the PLAY into existence long before it ever popped up. What if our ideas spark something greater down the line?
We all know the hardware and software limitations of the PLAY, and even an ICS update would disappoint in the long run, but what do YOU want a true PSPhone to be like?

A psp and a ps2 emulator'lld be great. And on the hardware side, a hd 4.5 inch lcd2 display tegra 3 processor and 2 gb ram (from Samsung)
sorry if i had dreamed to much:-D
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Xcited android user said:
A psp and a ps2 emulator'lld be great. And on the hardware side, a hd 4.5 inch lcd2 display tegra 3 processor and 2 gb ram (from Samsung)
sorry if i had dreamed to much:-D
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4.5'? You would be better off with a PS Vita (5')!
I would like to see a phone with the same design as the Xperia Play, but with (for example) the Nintendo 3DS analogs (physical), more ram, a better processor, internal memory, display resolution and more gaming related apps.

JBernardo10 said:
4.5'? You would be better off with a PS Vita (5')!
I would like to see a phone with the same design as the Xperia Play, but with (for example) the Nintendo 3DS analogs (physical), more ram, a better processor, internal memory, display resolution and more gaming related apps.
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Yea, those are good ideas. You can't dream too big! I think 5' will work because some Droid and Dell phones are that big lol! Imagine the Vita screensize but minus the controls on the side. They would slide out.
I also think it should have QR game download. So you could scan a label on a PS3,PSP, or Vita game you have and download it to your Phone instantly with NFC

PSP emulator for HOX?

I'm not first nor last who is asking that question, but now, with the quad-core Tegra 3 phones it could be possible to emulate PSP (or even PS2).
So, is there/anyone working on something of that kind?
And please, don't flame me, I'm aware of another simmilar threads, but none of them are "fresh" ones.

i'm pretty sure this is the answer:
the resources that would be needed to emulate the ps2s hardware is too much currently. i think unless somebody wrote a specific tegra 3 ps2 emulator, it *might* be possible, but even then wouldn't be perfect. there would be framerate drops etc etc.
i know theres some for pcs, but obviously pc cpus/gpus are a bit more mature, and obviously have specific instruction sets etc that can be utilized more efficiently.

Nope, not even the more powerful SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.

cccy said:
Nope, not even the more less SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.
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Fixed also I can sell you an anti flame vest for $200 usd. You might need it.
As for psp and ps2 emulation is very primitive on the pc right now so I don't expect a emu any time soon on android and fyi my buddies i5 desktop pc can barely run ps2 games at full speed. I don't expect an android device to get close to that.
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Yeah, you're right, even in PCSX2 on my 3,1 GHz i5 & Radeon HD6870 machine with 8GB RAM are some games pretty slow sometimes. But I'm using some graphics enhancements (like antialiasing etc.), so I was thinking about original PS2-like graphics...
Nevermind, it was just an idea. I should sleep more and think less. :laugh:
I should've been happy for PS1 emulator right now.