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Whose going go root their device? Im thinking about it just for google wallet but im hearing its unsecure. Any inputs
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Whose going go root their device? Im thinking about it just for google wallet but im hearing its unsecure. Any inputs
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if the root process is available for the vzw galaxy nexus by the time i get home, i will root it instantly. like you said, google wallet is the biggest reason followed by the fact i need to tether. google wallet isn't unsecure, i use it on my nexus s daily and wouldn't give it up for the world.
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if the root process is available for the vzw galaxy nexus by the time i get home, i will root it instantly. like you said, google wallet is the biggest reason followed by the fact i need to tether. google wallet isn't unsecure, i use it on my nexus s daily and wouldn't give it up for the world.
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all you phone junkies should play with your phone at least a week or so stock. just in case there are any hardware problems. methinks with all the people "renting" phones and the nexus having a high profile for modding i wouldn't chance voiding the warranty straight out of the box.
i dont need to use google wallet,i think root is better.
Ya google wallet is a musy have in my opinion, and i heard the.rooting process was easy
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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You mean the same Google wallet that sprint and Google say is fine? Or the same Google wallet I use every single day? Please tell me about this flaw?
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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the flaw that verizon, atnt and tmobile made up about google using a hardware chip? that flaw? the one that won't go through their servers so they can keep an even closer eye on the things you do with your phone? that one?
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the flaw that verizon, atnt and tmobile made up about google using a hardware chip? that flaw? the one that won't go through their servers so they can keep an even closer eye on the things you do with your phone? that one?
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lol ok gotcha
I rooted mine and had a custom rom on it within 20 minutes of unboxing it.
Glad I did!
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pukemon said:
all you phone junkies should play with your phone at least a week or so stock. just in case there are any hardware problems. methinks with all the people "renting" phones and the nexus having a high profile for modding i wouldn't chance voiding the warranty straight out of the box.
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That is an extrmely good point. I left part of me behind when I left my 3vo, and this is the first thing that came to mind when I get home with it from work tomorrow. Not now. Def gonna leave it the way it is for a week or so.....but we'll have to see how that goes haha
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The big security flaw is using your phone on ANY cell phone service. They track who you call, how long your calls are, who you txt, what the txt is, what cell towers you're connected to, when you pay your bill, with what credit card or check, also your name, address, oh and they know your phone number!
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I plan to use a lot of time exploring the phone on stock for about 10 days and then root.
Won't be rooting, see no need for it.
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i rooted mine on the first day, mostly becouse i want a recovery backup on the stock rom from day 1 with clockwork recovery.
I guess there is some consumer appeal, but really, why buy a Nexus if you have no interest in an unlocked phone? My decision to buy a Nexus was far less about firmware updates than it was about my right to own the hardware that I paid for.
To be honest, I didn't read the thread (shame on me), but these topics puzzle me. To each his own.
Google Wallet has some security risks in general for any device. Recently read the following from droidforums..... http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...s-news+(DroidForums.net+News+::+Android+News)
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I'll root when CM9 hits beta or if a good stable nightly.
Yes, but so far only to be able to restore app data (ie Angry Birds) from my old phone. I'm totally cool with the built-in ICS disable/freeze feature for the apps I don't want, I think that's an extremely fair compromise over rooting and deleting the apk/so files.
Not too concerned about Wallet yet, we'll see how that pans out if it's something we'll need to root for or just something we can head to the Market and install without any issue. I would like to try it out and have zero confidence that the competing ISIS thing won't completely suck in comparison, so if root is needed, root it is!
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The big security flaw is using your phone on ANY cell phone service. They track who you call, how long your calls are, who you txt, what the txt is, what cell towers you're connected to, when you pay your bill, with what credit card or check, also your name, address, oh and they know your phone number!
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If you want a private conversation phones are not the way to go. Back in the day we had to hard tap your line for LE with warrant. Now with CALEA and digital switches they can monitor traffic anywhere anytime w/o warrant.
Sometimes we put lines on speaker all day to monitor for noise. If your neighbor had wet line issue or cross talk we might monitor your line for noise. I worked in a 900 number telephone switch in California we have to check lines for "traffic" or people talking before working on them. It was awkward. Now I can monitor phone calls from my computer. Of coarse I don't unless it is for work I don't want to end up in Guantanamo.
Wow how off topic WTF happened?
Hey guys I had a curious thought. I downloaded an NFC tag reader and was able to read some basic info from my Boston MBTA CharlieCard. I know it's a mifare classic chip. I was wondering how hard/legal it would be to somehow clone the card info so I could use my phone to pay the fare. Already dabbled with google wallet so I love the idea of getting rid of crap in my pocket. My door locks are next
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Sweet, I used NFC Classic which can ave it and use it as a new profile..it read my bus pass, and even my chase visa credit card! I'll have to test it next week on the bus.
It pulls two profiles off the card, I'm not sure which to use.
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Hey guys I had a curious thought. I downloaded an NFC tag reader and was able to read some basic info from my Boston MBTA CharlieCard. I know it's a mifare classic chip. I was wondering how hard/legal it would be to somehow clone the card info so I could use my phone to pay the fare. Already dabbled with google wallet so I love the idea of getting rid of crap in my pocket. My door locks are next
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I JUST moved to Boston and am taking the red line into work every day. If you can get this working or find someone who can let me know. This would be the ideal solution.
Anyone know of a way to do this? Seems like Farebot in the market does what I'm asking in other markets. My knowledge of this stuff gets weak beyond flashing roms and troubleshooting phones
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Galaxy nexus has NFC emulation disabled, so you can't do what you want to do
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Galaxy nexus has NFC emulation disabled, so you can't do what you want to do
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Disabled as in its a software setting or disabled as in the chip physically cant do it? Im guessing if the possibility exists someone will figure out a way to make it work. It IS a dev phone after all...
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Disabled as in its a software setting or disabled as in the chip physically cant do it? Im guessing if the possibility exists someone will figure out a way to make it work. It IS a dev phone after all...
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It's not disabled insomuch as it's not even in the public API.
If it uses NDEF as a messaging container you can use NDEF push (you'll likely need to write your own app for this, but it wouldn't be terribly difficult) - otherwise emulation of other card types / protocols just isn't present currently.
AFAIK Farebot only reads the data as well.
Anyone willing to accept that as a challenge?
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Another user on XDA, m0rtadelo, created a patch for the Nexus S 2.4.1_r1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281946
Maybe we can see his changes and port them to the GN ICS?
Any news on this front?
it would be wonderful to have the ability to open the doors at school with my phone rather than picking up my wallet
I too am interested. I'm in Montreal and we use the same tech with our BUS cards, so does my gym and work card. It would be awesome if my phone could completely replace my wallet.
please, if anyone knows of someone working on this let me know. I'm willing to donate for the cause.
i think everyone is pretty keen for nfc emulation! just have to find someone with the skills and motivation to do it. with NFC becoming more widespread, im sure that someone will pick up the task, especially with the nexus.
This would be awesome!
So since my OP the MBTA has mobile payment options for the commuter rail. Anyone know any other ways?
So, like many,I'm locked out of google Wallet. Would it be worth it to file an insurance claim and get a different nexus (new or refurb) or should I just hold off and continue to wait for a fix?
Any helpful input would be appreciated.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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How did you get locked out?
Well if you're using a VZW Nexus it's blocked/locked form usage. Did you get the apk or? I have wallet on my VZW Nexus and I can use it freely.
Cant you "break in" into Google Wallet by deleting the data so it asks you for you to set your pin?
I don't even think the galaxy nexus is officially supported by google wallet and the application is blocked in the market by verizon. It may have been the wallet security measures which locked your account and you could try calling google wallet support to reset your account.
Try ODIN Flashing and Fastboot Flashing yourself to stock. I don't think it could actually fix it, but it's worth a shot I guess. There will probably be a fix in the future, either from Google or XDA (my money is on XDA), but it will definitely be a while. I sold my Nexus One before it ever got a custom HBOOT, which many thought no one would take up. I would ask for a refurb personally, as I like using GWallet and it's one of the reasons I bought the phone.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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I realize that
Also,I got locked out by not resetting data within the app before switching roms (like many others on here). I had it working and loved it. I'm getting tired of not being able to use it now though.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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Secure Element is a hardware component. Verizon cannot deny a claim on a hardware issue. That said...how do you explain to those peons to know the difference? I assume that if/when the ISIS app comes out, it will use SE as well. Then it will be easier to show them that its hardware (maybe).
Google Wallet may be blocked from the market, but Verizon allows sideloading of apps. Nowhere in their warranty terms do they say, "You are explicitly not allowed to install Google Wallet."
From what I've read, your secure element has shut itself down. If this is true, you'll probably never get a fix from either Google or XDA.
The OP could print out some Google support posts showing that phones need to be replaced when this happens. Verizon cannot void a warranty based on Google Wallet. The phone has the capability. It is of no fault that the user has a corrupted SE.
Better be stock and locked though.
@OP, if you're within your returns period then you should be able to just take the phone back.
However, though morally questionable, other people on these forums have had success by intentionally placing their phone into a bootloop to get a replacement device.
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@OP, if you're within your returns period then you should be able to just take the phone back.
However, though morally questionable, other people on these forums have had success by intentionally placing their phone into a bootloop to get a replacement device.
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I'm not unfortunately. I got it launch day and got locked out like 3 weeks later. Have been waiting ever since.
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From what I've read, your secure element has shut itself down. If this is true, you'll probably never get a fix from either Google or XDA.
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please explain to those who do not know, what is a secure element?
Google Wallet on GNex
My GNex is about 2 mo. old and when I first got it, one of the first things I wanted to do with it was put Google Wallet on it. Unfortunately, that was during the time when there were so many issues with it. After much research on XDA,(thanks so much by the way!), I installed the .apk from Google Wallet website. I have the "Unsupported Device" banner at the top of the screen but for me it's not a big deal. I have used it at several businesses and it worked flawlessly. I have even added funds to the Google Prepaid card from my bank's VISA debit card. An added bonus is peoples amazement when I pay for something with my phone. Google Wallets "Cool Factor" is off the scale.
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My GNex is about 2 mo. old and when I first got it, one of the first things I wanted to do with it was put Google Wallet on it. Unfortunately, that was during the time when there were so many issues with it. After much research on XDA,(thanks so much by the way!), I installed the .apk from Google Wallet website. I have the "Unsupported Device" banner at the top of the screen but for me it's not a big deal. I have used it at several businesses and it worked flawlessly. I have even added funds to the Google Prepaid card from my bank's VISA debit card. An added bonus is peoples amazement when I pay for something with my phone. Google Wallets "Cool Factor" is off the scale.
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that banner is because you are rooted, not because its a galaxy nexus.
Would someone please explain to me what is a "secure element"?
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Would someone please explain to me what is a "secure element"?
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Sure
Ive been locked out as well and debated reporting it lost paying the $100 for a replacement. But honestly besides using it at mc Donald's which i dont go to anyways or or few other places where you can use it then its just not worth it for me. Ill stick to plastic cards and besides android beam works
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Ive been locked out as well and debated reporting it lost paying the $100 for a replacement. But honestly besides using it at mc Donald's which i dont go to anyways or or few other places where you can use it then its just not worth it for me. Ill stick to plastic cards and besides android beam works
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I thought about that as well. But around me everyone takes pay pass. Plus bad esn gnex are selling for 150 or more on eBay.
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so im thinking about installing it and linking it to my citi card...does even use it? is it really more convenient? do a lot of places you go to in your everyday life accept it?
I use it at 7-11 a lot. I'm on Verizon by the way.
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I use it at 7-11 a lot. I'm on Verizon by the way.
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apparently i already have google wallet enabled online...my card is linked to my gmail for apps in the playstore...i guess i just need to log in...but im not sure i want to do that if its not useable at a lot of stores...and i dont want to stand there like a moron tapping my phone on a pay device and it not doing anything lol
if these paypass locations are really prevalent then it would be awesome thing to have...if its hit or miss, then theres no point
Try it?
What's the loss here, I don't get it?
But for me, yes, it is hit and miss.
I think it's due to lack of a decent pay pass here.
Our 7-11 works for me...usually.
Everywhere else it practically never does.
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Try it?
What's the loss here, I don't get it?
But for me, yes, it is hit and miss.
I think it's due to lack of a decent pay pass here.
Our 7-11 works for me...usually.
Everywhere else it practically never does.
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the loss:
1. a lot of people are getting locked out of google wallet after flashing new roms (i read that resetting the app prior to flashing something is needed)
id whether not risk it right now and wait until google wallet takes off in case i got locked out..then ill be mad when i cant use it when i actually want to
2. security reasons...i dont need my CC info stored on an extra app if im not even going to use it
I flash cm9 nightlies all the time and use wallet almost everyday. I don't get locked out. But i am only wiping cache and dalvik cache. If you are doing a full wipe between roms then it is advised to go into your google wallet app and de-provision your wallet so that you don't risk getting the secure element lockout. Also nandroid backups are always recommended. People got locked out a few weeks ago too because of a wallet security flaw they needed to patch so provisioning of new cards was disabled.
Security isn't a worry here especially if you're using a prepaid card. Everything requires your pin and also if you link it to a prepaid card the only thing at risk would be whatever small amount of prepaid money you have on there. If you had a remote wipe application you'd even be able to wipe your phone before anyone even attempted to guess your pin. Also let's not forget a quick call to the money network could disable your wallet just like you would with a traditional credit card.
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For Google wallet do you have to have a citi credit card or can it be a debit card as well
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For Google wallet do you have to have a citi credit card or can it be a debit card as well
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No you can also use a wallet prepaid card. You can put however much money you want on it and fill it up whenever it runs low. It'll process just like a credit card.
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I use google wallet often at 711.
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I use it for small purchases at places like CVS, Duane Reade, 7-11. Always gets a cool reaction from cashiers.
the pop machines at my school (ohio state) have credit card/paypass readers. i use it all the time there. it makes me feel like im saving money by not actually feeding cash into it. i enjoy lying to myself!
I've tried it but it seems to me that unless I open the app beforehand, it takes more time than Swiping a card. Every time I put it on the reader without first having opened wallet beforehand, it asks me for my pin before it goes through. Seems to take more time. Now, if I open the app before placing it on the reader, it works well. it is pretty cool and saves a second maybe.
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Used the free 10 bucks initially but haven't reloaded a card since then. Its too bad Google doesn't get more banks and credit card companies on board. I'm not going to waste my time loading prepaid cards when there's no added benefit.
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All the time!!! Very useful when I go jogging and don't want to carry my wallet..
Use it to buy water, gatorade etc. from Duanereade. As for the delay, its the same as taking your wallet out and your card.. Just open the app when you are walking over to the cashier and you are golden
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Hey I'm at OSU too. I use Gwallet as much as I can because I want to push the standard. I agree it's annoying they don't have more options for debit or credit, but I'm willing to go out of my way a little bit to try and move things toward a digital wallet.
Anyone else notice they couldn't download Google Wallet from the Play Store.
Anyone know why? Or know how hard it would be to get it to work?
4.3 is brand new, there is still a lot of compatibility issues with apps and lots of app updates to be pushed, just wait...
otherwise find an apk somewhere on the internet and just download it and install it manually
tossed the apk over from my 1st gen nexus 7 and no good. wont install (not rooted btw)
Definitely hoping it's a 4.3 compatibility issue. Can't think of any other reason why it wouldn't be compatible.
According to AndroidPolice -
Update: Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst dropped by our comments section below to confirm that Wallet is not compatible with the new Nexus 7 for the same reason as the HTC One Play Edition – the device does not carry a secure element, the small bit of hardware required to store encrypted card credentials on a device. This is required in order for Wallet to function, well, securely.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/27/psa-google-wallet-not-compatible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/
Seems it is an actual hardware limitation
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According to AndroidPolice -
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/27/psa-google-wallet-not-compatible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/
Seems it is an actual hardware limitation
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woooooooooooooow this is ridiculously lame
I put 4.3 on my nexus 10 and wallet works fine.... Hard to believe it won't work on my new 7?
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[Slightly] off topic, but why is it that Google Wallet won't work with the HTC One GPe but it works with the Sprint HTC One?
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[Slightly] off topic, but why is it that Google Wallet won't work with the HTC One GPe but it works with the Sprint HTC One?
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agreed i call bs
I'm not an expert on Google Wallet (I've only attempted to use it once at a POS terminal, but my default credit card expired so I wasn't able to), but I have set it up and run the app on a few devices.
One of which was my SGS2 which, if I recall correctly, did not have the secure element either and was not 'supported'. However, someone found a work around and was able to get it to install and function correctly. I imagine it could be done for the N7v2 as well.
However, the most annoying thing is that Google left it out in the first place. The price difference was negligible at best, so it was either a willfull action, which makes little sense as this was a huge marketing point on the original N7, or some idiot design engineer forgot about it.
I really love the Nexus 7. I loved the first one and I love the second one. But some of the decisions Google made on features and components pisses me off. For <$10 more in parts, they could have used Gorilla Glass, had a multi-colored notification LED, added this secure element, put in a native HDMI port, etc. I know external storage isn't going to happen with Google, but they could have spent a few extra bucks to make this great tablet just amazing.
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I'm not an expert on Google Wallet (I've only attempted to use it once at a POS terminal, but my default credit card expired so I wasn't able to), but I have set it up and run the app on a few devices.
One of which was my SGS2 which, if I recall correctly, did not have the secure element either and was not 'supported'. However, someone found a work around and was able to get it to install and function correctly. I imagine it could be done for the N7v2 as well.
However, the most annoying thing is that Google left it out in the first place. The price difference was negligible at best, so it was either a willfull action, which makes little sense as this was a huge marketing point on the original N7, or some idiot design engineer forgot about it.
I really love the Nexus 7. I loved the first one and I love the second one. But some of the decisions Google made on features and components pisses me off. For <$10 more in parts, they could have used Gorilla Glass, had a multi-colored notification LED, added this secure element, put in a native HDMI port, etc. I know external storage isn't going to happen with Google, but they could have spent a few extra bucks to make this great tablet just amazing.
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I thought the nexus 7 did have gorilla glass?
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I thought the nexus 7 did have gorilla glass?
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Nope.
Neither the 2012 or 2013 models have gorilla glass. They have "scratch resistant" glass made by Corning, who makes gorilla glass, but that's not the same thing.