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Vodafone Sure Signal

I have a Vodafone Sure Signal femtocell device, which connects to my broadband and provides a localised 3G signal in my house, as network reception here is poor.
I have 2 other phones connected to the SS just fine, but the One X is intermittently losing the connection and needs a reboot to re-connect. There have been some other posts on the Vodafone UK forums from folks with a One X, not many but enough to make me wonder if there's a more common problem.
Does anyone else here have a Sure Signal, and if so, are you having any problems with it?

I don't personally have it but my friend does and he is getting drops constantly he is not best pleased as he had yellow spot issue aswell aha i think he's going to thro the OX off the wall shortly. He has phoned regarding this and got nowhere

Thanks for the reply. VF have contacted me after I posted on their eforums, I've raised a ticket and they're investigating. I'll report back if anything improves.
VF UK are really pushing the One X, so if there is a problem, I imagine they'll want to get it fixed.

do the vodafone handsets have vodafone firmware? i have a factory unlocked non branded unit I'm using on vodafone with SS and hab=ve had zero problems!

Thanks for the reply. I got mine from dialaphone and it's pure stock WWE. It's working now, but still a little flakey. If it loses connection to the SS, I turn airplane mode off and on again and it works again (quicker than a reboot).
Most of the One X users with problems on the VF forum have their old number on a new sim card, which apparently can cause the Sure Signal to bug out a bit until the new sim is registered. Mine is a brand new number though. It's lasting a day or so before I have any issues.
The SS has always been a little on the flakey side, though, I need to reset it every so often - but that's been weeks or months apart rather than days.
I have one of the older models with 4 lights, not sure if that makes a difference.
Half wondering if it's the phone not the SS, but will see how it goes for the next few days.

I have had very poor suresignal performance...and have swapped out one phone already after speaking to HTC.
But have found that by turning off WIFI, it seems to be a lot happier, and the replacement phone acts just the same as the first (sim free from CPW)
But without WIFI, all data comes out of your data plan, and not from your broadband even thought the SS uses the broadband connection.

I never got to the bottom of my sure signal problems with this phone until I installed cyanogenmod.
However I recently installed sense 5 and my phone would again not connect to my sure signal. I have gone back to cyanogenmod and the problem still exisits.
Can someone who uses a sure signal please tell me which radio you are using by going to settings, about phone, baseband version
Many thanks

poor signal htc any way of boosting it

i have had my phone a week or so now battery is getting better but the cell signal is really bad compared to my last device which was a n8 is there any solution or fix??

Ive a X on Orange and I have to say it seems to struggle to get a good Orange signal in areas I'm sure used to be very good on my sensation.

I am also with Orange. I am finding the connection very eratic. Quite often there seems to be none or one bar, then it will jump to 2 or 3, then drop to none again. Anyone else seeing this? I know there is a thread on the WiFI dropping at times.

plz report it to HTC. I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and having same problems. The more reports they get the more likely they'll take note.

Does the signal issue have to do with the way your holding the phone in low signal areas?

I'm on T-Mobile UK too which now uses Orange masts. Anytime it switches to an orange only signal I only get a G signal. I've turned off data roaming and all is well.
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I've found similar issues but also I can't get it to report a signal better than -83dbm. Anyone else notice this?
I'm hoping the 1.28 update has a new radio.

Did you try another sim?
Also are you using a legit MicroSim or you cut your old sim into a MicroSim? This causes bad signal.

Try to avoid covering the lower left corner with your hand as it will greatly attenuate the signal. Not to the same extent as the iPhone 4 dramas, but still quite noticeable (2 bars).

nikosssb said:
Did you try another sim?
Also are you using a legit MicroSim or you cut your old sim into a MicroSim? This causes bad signal.
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Legit microsim direct from the network.

I can have my phone on the desk and I am actually seeing the wifi strength and the mobile signal fluctuate between 0 and 2 bars. It does that most times I take it out of sleep mode, it does this for about 60 seconds then stabilises. Happens almost every time.

Just chatted online to HTC and he was quite quick to say - faulty fone. ask for replacement.
But I have heard from a few people locally, all on orange, who have said they have had major reception probs on orange in last few days, dropped calls
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Orange are blaming it on local cell issue, didn't listen when I said its not just local, but then again she did ask me to take battery out of One X !
Anyway, she got me to go to GSM only until local cell fixed. Am I correct in thinking that this will not use HSPDA now though ?

Do you mind me asking exactly what you asked htc? I'm finding that my desire is often ~10dbm better than my One X

Huw
Just told him I've noticed significent drop in signal from Sensation, lots more T-Mobile log ons too. He quite quickly said get fone swapped.
Orange reply as above, blaming local masts.
The signal seems to jump from one extreme to another either full bars or one bar only.

stevep999 said:
Huw
Just told him I've noticed significent drop in signal from Sensation, lots more T-Mobile log ons too. He quite quickly said get fone swapped.
Orange reply as above, blaming local masts.
The signal seems to jump from one extreme to another either full bars or one bar only.
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just to add on..
me in singapore here having this problem too...
and also using legit microSIM

im on vodafone and today noticed that in an area where reception is usually fine, i had nothing.
... anyone know if this could be solved by a radio update or is it perhaps an unfixable hardware problem?
got the flickering screen too... seriously thinking about ditching htc, but i hate touchwiz and not really sure what to go for... maybe just go backward to a sensation XE.

jaspabt said:
I can have my phone on the desk and I am actually seeing the wifi strength and the mobile signal fluctuate between 0 and 2 bars. It does that most times I take it out of sleep mode, it does this for about 60 seconds then stabilises. Happens almost every time.
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Installed the 1.28 update last night. Signal is now much much much better. I Don't experience any of the above anymore!

jaspabt , are you using a branded or unbranded HOX on orange ?

Low signal on hox

Today I noticed that the signal on my hox is worse than on my old desire. On places where my desire got constand hsdpa the hox switches constantly from hsdpa to 3g with less signal bars. Anyone else with this problem ?
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Same here, I now have to go outside my office to be able to make calls that dont drop. With my SG2 would get full bar in my office, but with HOX only get 2bars

Yup mine seems the same, stumbled upon this thread looking for a solution so hopefully someone who has some success resolving the issue will be able to help.

I'm having this issue too, hopefully when s off has been achieved we will be able to flash different radios it has fixed this issue on all of my previous phones.

My phone also seems to have a somewhat weaker 3G reception than my SGS-2, although they both act in the same way in regards to switching between 3G and H+ all the time. I think this can be corrected partly via software updates since the wifi reception is much stronger on the HOX than any unit I ever had before. It is the same "antenna" the receives both signals isnt it?

Mine seems to get faster 3G speeds than my Gnex and GS2 (unless my network has improved in the past 2 week)
But phone signal is far worse, especially since the 1.28 update... I'm not getting signal now in places where I used to always get signal
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

My data speeds have dramatically decreased after the latest 1.28 update - quite dissapointing! I have no use for better signal if the data is worse lol

Have been lurking on here for a while now and noticed a few threads and comments about reception on the One X
I am in the same boat, was using a Desire S and now a One x and noticed there is a distinct difference in signal level between the two. Not just the signal bars (desire s has 4, One x has 5) but the dBm levels too.
I would say that 80% of those that have had the update and posted about signal have said that it has improved, regardless of carrier they use.
I went into the store where I bought mine from (ThreeUk Retail shop) and they were going to swap it out there and then for me but the handset on display (working demo) had a similar level to mine, so seemed pointless as Im guessing that all/most of the units are like this, it isnt an isolated case.
So, im not sure what to do now. I have just swapped my main number to Three (and its now my only number). Im without coverage far more than I used to be with Voda, or with Three using the Desire S.
Three shop says they have a 28 day policy for faulty handsets, I hope that the update is out before that so I can see for myself.
Brilliant handset though…. screen is lush, using the phone is a pleasure…. just brilliant.
Steve

I am noticing far worse signal on my handset than previous handsets , an awful lot of the time my handset switches between t-mobile and orange , whereas previous handsets were solid t-mobile all day , and also the data speeds are worse. I am not very impressed as the 1.28 update appears to have made this worse, and its an unlocked generic variant in the uk if thats of any help
cheers
james

My signal is loads better.
Before the update I couldn't sit on the sofa and make a call I would get 3bars then nothing.
Now I'm a fairly constant 4 bars sat on the sofa.
I'm on Tesco (so O2) I was going to take the handset back before the update.
Battery seems twice as good on a completely different note.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

I have had a similar experience as descb600f. Prior to 1.28 my signal would drop regularly. After 1.28 I am finding it is far better, regularly seeing 3 bars, where before it would continually switch between 0 and 2 bars.
WiFi reception is great, puts my Desire to shame!

So which is it, does 1.28 make signal alot better or not? And what about actual call quality, its one thing getting 3 bars but another if calls are choppy

I do have to agree with the signal/Wifi issues on this device.. I came from a Nexus S (GSM model) and I used to get good HSPA/UMTS signals on that device, I also have a Wifi network setup in my house, it covers most of the house and some of the backyard.. However when out in the backyard the One X seems to drop the connection to the Wifi network, however my old Nexus S still has atleast 2-3 bars of Wifi connectivity and constantly keeps the signal/connection.
Has anyone else had issues like this with Home Wifi networks not getting as great a signal as other devices?
If I hold the One X in one hand and the Nexus S in the other and move away from the Wifi Access Point, the One X drops signal strength a lot quicker and the Nexus S keeps connection/signal a lot further away..
Bit dissapointed with that, and hope it's some how able to be fixed with software/firmware upgrades in the future?
Also I noticed the One X seems to switch between H/3G (HSPA/UMTS etc) quite a lot more than the Nexus S does, same network, holding both in same spot..
Apart from these minor issues and the screen flickering issue I'm more than happy with the One X..

Tondern said:
I think this can be corrected partly via software updates since the wifi reception is much stronger on the HOX than any unit I ever had before. It is the same "antenna" the receives both signals isnt it?
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WiFi and 2G/3G are two different chipsets and different antennas.
I have also notices dropsin the last 3 days, including hours with no reception at all
Need to switch from 1.26 to 1.28 soon to try it...

I should say I live in an area with only 2G reception and we sit in a dip partially hidden from the transmitters.
We can only get O2/Voda (orange/TMob if I just want to live upstairs in a corner of the house) and since the update I now have no issues with reception just like I used to.
1.28 has resolved my issues.
On the wifi front
I live in an old stone cottage with timber frame extension (wifi b/g can't make it thru our internal walls in the old part of the house), I have the N wifi router upstairs in the extension and have no issues with losing WiFi either (didn't have issues before 1.28).
Hope this helps people, I realise some may say it has got worse but for me the difference is night and day making the phone completely fine.

I just found an old 3 SIM (from a dongle) and popped it into my desire s and placed both by the window running Network Signal App for 30 minutes.
Both were attached to the same tower and the HOX was getting between -89 and -91 dbm, the Desire a consistent -75dbm.
Just hope that Three shake their touche's and get the update approved ASAP…. im quite a technical guy, but the idea of rooting and doing the update myself gives me the shakes…..
Steve

Loss of signal, no auto reconnect.

I am having an issue on my One X (unbranded and unlocked) with the signal vanishing and not reconnecting unless I force it. I was wondering whether it effects all networks or just networks that use more than one carrier. Three has its own 3G network but it uses Orange 2G signal. I also saw a thread with the same issue on T-Mobile / Orange which is also dual carrier.
I am wondering whether it is the switch between these networks which is causing it to lose signal and not reconnect.
I have had several instances where my signal has an R next to it as if it is roaming, this would be when it is connected to the Orange 2G network, I never had this problem on my Desire HD or Sensation.
Does anyone know of any issues on Vodafone or O2 regarding signal loss or is it just networks which use multiple carriers.
My One X is stock and bootloader has not been unlocked.
Thoughts?
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Are you still on the 126 SW?
As your unbranded then you should be able to get the 128 update.
With 126, my Three handset recieve level was about -88 to 91dbm.
With 128 its now at -75dbm in the same location.
Most, if not all of the roam to Orange has now been disabled, remaining where there is no Three signal at all.
Steve

No I have upgraded to 1.28, unfortunately I am still in an area where it does switch to Orange 2G signal.
It seems to hang on to 3G until I have virtually no signal, then goes to no signal and doesn't reconnect unless I force it. It seems to mostly happen when I put the phone away on my pocket so I dont notice I have no signal until I check my phone.
I lost signal today and to test the reconnect I left the screen on and I drove about 20 miles through large-ish towns and it didn't reconnect once, had to force it when I got home.
Not sure if this effects single carrier networks, O2 or Vodafone?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Have you had the same issue with any other handset?
Are you a new customer to Three and this is the first you have seen of this?
Reason I ask is when I was thinking of going to Three for my main phone, I tested with a handset I just used for tethering off the one plan.
I drove out of town to an area where I guessed there would be no Three coverage.
The signal hung on for ages but when it dropped I made a note of where it dropped. After a few moments the handset went over to Orange 2g. I then drove back home. I must of drove at least 5 miles past the point I noted earlier before the Orange signal itself dropped and had to force the handset to Three myself.
This sounds similar to your issue and was with a Desire S….but you say you didnt have this with previous handsets. All very strange
Steve

I've had a Desire HD and a Sensation both on Three and never had issue on either of these.
There must be something different about the way the One X handles the switch of signal, or maybe it's just faulty.
Might try some other SIM's from other networks, if that doesn't work I'll get a replacement.
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I have this phone second day and I see this signal problem as well, I got iphone 4s in Three and HTC One X in Three as well and in same place Iphone show me 3G connection and 3 bars, HTC show only one bar and sometime nothing.
How get update to1.28?
I check update via my phone and nothing show me
My phone have no 1.26

shrubz said:
No I have upgraded to 1.28, unfortunately I am still in an area where it does switch to Orange 2G signal.
It seems to hang on to 3G until I have virtually no signal, then goes to no signal and doesn't reconnect unless I force it. It seems to mostly happen when I put the phone away on my pocket so I dont notice I have no signal until I check my phone.
I lost signal today and to test the reconnect I left the screen on and I drove about 20 miles through large-ish towns and it didn't reconnect once, had to force it when I got home.
Not sure if this effects single carrier networks, O2 or Vodafone?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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I'm on three and it never seems to switch to gsm just looses signal all together and takes ages to reconnect once I move location. this is a proper pain I've had the phone replaced three times changed sim still not got better I'm thinking its the radio version on this phone or some software related issue.

If you're phone is from Three you won't get the update until Three release it.
I did see on another thread that Three won't be releasing 1.28 as HTC are currently working on the next update. Don't know how true that is.
My phone is unbranded and unlocked to any network, which is why I got the update.
Think I'm going to get a replacement and see if that's any better, hope it's not a general issue with the one X having lower signal.
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thewrench80 said:
I'm on three and it never seems to switch to gsm just looses signal all together and takes ages to reconnect once I move location. this is a proper pain I've had the phone replaced three times changed sim still not got better I'm thinking its the radio version on this phone or some software related issue.
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If you dial *#*#4636#*#* on your phone and select phone info you can select GSM only which is 2G, this really improves signal but because it's 2G you are stuck on really slow data speeds.
If that is the case and you've had 3 replacements, maybe it's worth holding out for the next update to see if that fixes the problem.
I'm a little uneasy about returning it for a replacement as I don't have any other problems with it (bad screen seal, banding on display or yellow display) I may end up with more problems with a replacement.
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Is any chance change three rom on factory rom?

I had similar issues to what you are describing with yours on my original unlocked/unbranded HOX on T-Mobile. I had issues on top of the ones you mentioned where it was also saying I had a signal and had appeared to lock up and would just drop the mobile network and say at the bottomg of the screen "preparing sim".
Most the time I was stuck with putting it in and out of airplane mode to make calls, only for them to drop or fail all together.
This was on both 1.26 and 1.28 FW. In the end I took mine back and swapped it and the replacement has been perfect since. so it was without doubt a hardware fault in my case!
Good luck solving your problem, but I would suggest taking it back and getting a straight swap.

Wielki.Brat said:
Is any chance change three rom on factory rom?
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You can't change you ROM unless you unlock the Bootloader at HTCDev and this will void your warranty with HTC.
Three will release an update eventually, and 1.28 is no better signal wise for me than 1.26 was!!

noisy_lightning said:
I had similar issues to what you are describing with yours on my original unlocked/unbranded HOX on T-Mobile. I had issues on top of the ones you mentioned where it was also saying I had a signal and had appeared to lock up and would just drop the mobile network and say at the bottomg of the screen "preparing sim".
Most the time I was stuck with putting it in and out of airplane mode to make calls, only for them to drop or fail all together.
This was on both 1.26 and 1.28 FW. In the end I took mine back and swapped it and the replacement has been perfect since. so it was without doubt a hardware fault in my case!
Good luck solving your problem, but I would suggest taking it back and getting a straight swap.
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Interesting, I too had the Preparing Sim message until I got a new SIM from Three, this seemed to fix this message but I am still having Signal Problems.
I think I'll follow your lead and go for a replacement, I have to use Airplane mode to force the signal to reconnect as well.
Thanks

I can confirm I have these problems. I'm on three but the phone was from Dialaphone and with orange but is unlocked. I have exactly the same problems as those been described. This is a very irritating problem that makes me miss calls and texts in my poor 3 signal area.

Smith2001 said:
I can confirm I have these problems. I'm on three but the phone was from Dialaphone and with orange but is unlocked. I have exactly the same problems as those been described. This is a very irritating problem that makes me miss calls and texts in my poor 3 signal area.
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I think you're best off to return it for a replacement, that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully that will fix my problem and not create any more!!

I have the same issue on my device. On my 2nd replacement and its still the same.
No problems with my iPhone 4S.
Hopefully a radio update will sort this out.
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shrubz said:
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* on your phone and select phone info you can select GSM only which is 2G, this really improves signal but because it's 2G you are stuck on really slow data speeds.
If that is the case and you've had 3 replacements, maybe it's worth holding out for the next update to see if that fixes the problem.
I'm a little uneasy about returning it for a replacement as I don't have any other problems with it (bad screen seal, banding on display or yellow display) I may end up with more problems with a replacement.
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was my worry everytime but thankfully the only issue ot kept coming back with was the signal issue so it looks like its here to stay, i tried the *# menu and when i select gsm only i get no signal????? called three today to say i want to activate the gsm mode when im in poor 3g areas and they said for some reason i am unable to, he could explain why? but it seems some three customers can switch to gsm, i have never seen a g icon on my phone, either got 3g or nout!!

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was my worry everytime but thankfully the only issue ot kept coming back with was the signal issue so it looks like its here to stay, i tried the *# menu and when i select gsm only i get no signal????? called three today to say i want to activate the gsm mode when im in poor 3g areas and they said for some reason i am unable to, he could explain why? but it seems some three customers can switch to gsm, i have never seen a g icon on my phone, either got 3g or nout!!
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I think it might depend on location, in some areas the 2G signal (Three use Orange network for 2G) has been turned off. In my Area (South West England) I still have access to the 2G GSM Signal.
Obviously Three save a lot of money from turning off GSM and not paying Orange to use their network.

shrubz said:
I think it might depend on location, in some areas the 2G signal (Three use Orange network for 2G) has been turned off. In my Area (South West England) I still have access to the 2G GSM Signal.
Obviously Three save a lot of money from turning off GSM and not paying Orange to use their network.
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thanks for the info

Guys Im three network customer and now I bay this HTc from my friend with is 3 network customer as well, can I claim now exchange this phone? I have only photo delivery invoice. Can I?

Is it likely that 1.29 (or 1.30) will make a difference to the signal?

I've been losing signal a lot on 1.28 here in the UK on Vodafone and really don't want to exchange the phone because the hardware is perfect. I tried a new SIM yesterday, but that made no difference and because I don't want to swap out the phone I'm pinning my hopes on the new software. Is that sensible?
Also, I've tried some of the signal boosters available on the market and they don't seem to help. Has anyone had any success in this area?
Thanks in advance...

I don't know the answer to your question but I am on Vodafone and have noticed that the signal jumps between H, G and E loads

I'm on orange and have the same problem which I didn't have with my S2.
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Firstly, Ive recently left Voda due to my then Bold 9900 often showing SOS and when it did show 3g, not been able to make a call, having to revert to GSM to make a call. The later was while standing within several vodafone sites.
Im now on ThreeUK. They have not got a 2g network of their own to fall back on and in most parts the roam onto Orange has been turned off.
Anyway, when I got my first HOX on 1.26 the signal was rubbish. Where I did have coverage before on a Desire S, there was non. Holding the two devices next to each other the HOX was approx 14dmb diffence in the RX levels. This meant where the Desire S had full signal, the HOX had half. Where the Desire S had half, the HOX had non or 1 bar.
After the update to 1.28 (i sent the branded Three handset back and bought a unbranded one) the signal was far far better. I have no updated to 1.29 via the RUU and its still great.
Most people found that the 1.26 to 1.28 (or 1.29) improves the signal, only a few are reporting issues with signal on the later updates.
Steve

Thank you for the response. Trouble is, I'm actually on 1.28 and am getting the poor reception. So I guess it's good to know that a software update can make a difference - I just have to wait for one to arrive...

It all depends if they changed the radio in the software update which as they suggest they improved battery life then it's quite likely that they did. If that is the case then it could be reversed but I doubt they will.do anything unless they have a large volume of issues.

Unbranded HOX here no issues with Vodafone. However at work indoor very poor but that's probably signal indoors is useless but when I get outdoor its fine. Can't wait for S-OFF so we can start testing different radios.
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Any update that brings a new radio/base and will likely improve signal I'm not sure if these updates do have those things though.
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I'm running Android Revolution 5.2.0 which I think runs on the latest 1.29 base and I'm getting constant signal drops where I work in the UK. Never had it with my Galaxy S before. I haven't ever done an RUU update since original stock firmware. Would flashing a newer RUU help?
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I've also got this issue, though it would seem It's not everywhere, some places no drop out, others constant dropout. Had my work Iphone 4 (uses vodefone cell) sat next to my hox today and only the hox had issues with signal (although both were low when the hox did have signal). Almost feels like it's only certain cells, or possibly when only in range of one tower? ... Not sure...
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Signal Reception issues resolved
I had purchased HOX on 17-May and immediately got 1.28 update. Since then I had signal reception issues. It continued even after getting 1.29 update. After testing my SIM with Galaxy S3 and observing asu/dBm values, it was confirmed that my HOX had the problem. I took it to official HTC Service center and they just reflashed entire 1.29 ROM (not just the update). That seems to have resolved my issues. There are no dropped calls. I am getting signal in all the low signal areas that I know off.