Is anyone else experiencing issues with UI performance? A large amount of the apps I use appear to suffer massive frame rate drops when scrolling and I don't understand it at all. Considering the power behind the phone it makes no sense to me and the only thing I can think of is lack of optimisation. The best example I can give is when there are images on screen it feels like the frame rate drops as scrolling isn't as smooth then when it's just text it's buttery smooth. It isn't just images causing it though so I don't know if it's the apps, the phone, the ROM or a combination.
It wouldn't be so bad if the battery life was stellar but that too is pretty bad. With the same use I sometimes get down to 50% in around 8 hours (very light use) then another day it'll be over 15 hours.
Do I have a possible dodgy phone or are these common issues? I'm stuck on an old ROM (carrier branding, yay!) with no updates showing.
Dyonas said:
Is anyone else experiencing issues with UI performance? A large amount of the apps I use appear to suffer massive frame rate drops when scrolling and I don't understand it at all. Considering the power behind the phone it makes no sense to me and the only thing I can think of is lack of optimisation. The best example I can give is when there are images on screen it feels like the frame rate drops as scrolling isn't as smooth then when it's just text it's buttery smooth. It isn't just images causing it though so I don't know if it's the apps, the phone, the ROM or a combination.
It wouldn't be so bad if the battery life was stellar but that too is pretty bad. With the same use I sometimes get down to 50% in around 8 hours (very light use) then another day it'll be over 15 hours.
Do I have a possible dodgy phone or are these common issues? I'm stuck on an old ROM (carrier branding, yay!) with no updates showing.
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Hi Mate im currently running the htc one x but havent come across some of the issues your mentioning. When you say the framerate drops is this more when looking at websites etc as the browser re-alligns the text to your screen. Im running mine on stock to at the moment with vodafone branding if that helps at all.
Heya. I'm running stock too (T-Mobile) and the frame rate thing is an odd one. It doesn't happen in all the apps I use but enough that I noticed it. I'll have to keep a list of the apps because I can't find one doing it right now. The best comparison I can make is with PC games where you have nice and smooth gameplay but then a lot of effects happen and if your graphics card isn't good enough the frame rate drops and you notice a slight stuttering effect.
Anyway, you say you haven't got it on stock Vodafone so it's possible / highly likely that it's apps not set to use hardware acceleration.
One other thing I've just been reminded of is photos. Occasionally when I look back at photos in a grid the bottom of them will have visual artifacts. I'm trying to attach a grid of my photos, some are more noticeable than others like the white chunk on one in the middle of the grid. It doesn't affect the actual photo but when I first saw it the first thing I thought of was my Desire HD with current camera hacks to run ICS. As it doesn't do anything to the image it isn't too serious but not a good thing to see.
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I have a few questions about this phone. So far the s5 has been impressive as far as camera, battery life, speed, etc. The one problem? Its got a locked bootloader and there is no sign of it being unlocked any time soon.
The G3 has unlock method and several ROMS and development which is important to me(previous phone was s3 with plenty of ROMS).
So, does the g3 have good battery life and features similar to the s5?
Not much development,ok battery life with normal usage.Features wise doesn't have gestures,heart rate sensor,have multi windows,quick case circle,knock code.Probably best for you will be nexus 6
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I have had the S5, HTC One M8 and Now the G3, in my opinion it is a better phone that the two mentioned before, battery life is solid and improved through moding, good camera, I would definitely choose this one, but I would take the 3 GB variant because the additional ram goes a long way. Everything works well the way it should be no gimmicks like the S5 and a much louder speaker than the M8.
Ive used many flagships over the last year (s5, note 3, htc m8, xperia z1, lg g2,); The G3 is my favorite phone so far. Minor issues are the dim backlight, mediocre battery, oversharpening. But overall, best phone.
If I could have any phone now however, Id choose the Note 4.
I had the S5 for a few months. What surprised me was that I was not impressed with it at all. It is not a terrible phone. It was okay. My issues...For one, despite the claims, I found the battery life and overall experience with the G2 to be MUCH better. The G2 was much smoother. So I was disappointed with the GS5 coming from the G2.
I was intrigued by the G3, but was worried about that display and 801 processor, dimmer display, battery life etc. However, I couldn't stomach the GS5 anymore and I took the plunge and after rooting the G3, I find the battery life to be better than the GS5 . The G3 is better for making phone calls (better audio quality), and has better speakers. There are some lags. But I think those aren't so bad in general and can be improved with a different launcher or Rom (if you are into that). The camera is about the same (the GS5 takes better daylight photos). I have't really played with the modded cameras available for the G3, so I cannot comment on that.
Definitely I would go for the G3. For me, the G3 has been a better experience.
I have both phones SG5 and G3. Love G3, everything stock and still better for customising than GS5. If only battery life could be better on G3.
I heavily use SG5 and battery will last all day on G3 it goes to 50 % within 6 hrs.
Can't decide too which to keep.
My wife got the S5 about a week ago, and I'd been on the fence for a while, most because I'd been spooked by all the posts & threads about G3 glitches. I got my G3 today, and I gotta tell ya, I don't see ANY of the glitches I've been reading about. No overheating, no force closes, no over-sharpening... nothing. It's only been a day, but I've been pushing this thing all day.
I am going to have to spend some time working on the battery life, because it does go through it fast. But, I'm rooted on Barrin, so I'm hoping I have some options to disable some of the hogs. I typically go from home to my car to work and back where I always have a power source, but there will be times when I'm not. That will be rough, unless I find effective adjustments.
I went from the S4 to the G3. Not quite the same as you, but similar.
Here's what I've found in the 4 months of using the G3.
My list of cons looks a little big, But they are small things in comparison to the Pros, I just wanted to share my experience.
I'm currently a proud owner of the G3 and despite running everything stock due to lack of development for my model (D852), The G3 at stock is still better than most other heavily modified phones.
G3 Pros:
~ Best form factor in any phone bar none, The screen size is perfect for the size of the phones body, Very compact for a 5.5" screen and 1 handed use has never been an issue for me on this phone. (My hands are about medium size) (This is my main reason for keeping this phone.)
~ The bezels on this phone are the smallest nicesest looking bezels on any phone out there. (Without these super skinny bezels we wouldn't be able to get this small form factor with this huge of a screen, Looking really good is just a bonus hahaha.)
~ This phone is probly the nicest looking phone on the market, looking at it from the front with the screen off. (with the exception of the grey bottom bezel, The grey bezel kinda wrecks it's super sleek sexy look. But it still looks really good)
~ Super sexy UI, Especially the notification menu on this phone is THE NICEST looking of any android device in my opinion. (Which is kinda funny considering the G2 had the UGLIEST notification menu out of any android device I've ever seen.)
~ 1440x2560p resolution. <--- This is the first resolution that I've ever seen where I feel it's a retina display (Everyones eyes are different), To my eyes this resolution is a REAL retina display, Meaning my eyes can't see pixels anymore, After owning a 1440p phone i can totally notice 1080p isn't even retina Although some would disagree. Let's not even talk about what steve jobs thought was a retina display hahaha, Your eyes would melt out of your head seeing those resolutions now days. Although I could see how an iphone can be a retina display... at 5 feet away...
~ You can install custom roms & kernels via bump method.
~ Extremely good standby battery life on my Canadian model (D852). (5h20m per 1% battery drain, From what I've seen most US models seem to only get 1-3 hours per 1% depending on the circumstances, But as you can see it can be a lot higher depending on the circumstances.)
~ My first battery cycle on my G3 was an impressive 13.5 DAYS with just under 3 hours SOT on LTE 100% of the time. (100% of the SOT was texting)
~ Screen on time is really good, At stock on my G3 I get a slightly less SOT than my S4 that was heavily modified towards power savings
(Using auto brightness with slider at 0 & optimized options on stock I average around 11.5h screen on time (most of my SOT is texting) over the course of 3-4 days on most cycles on my G3, If I don't do any webbrowsing.) (The webbrowser on this phone DESTROYS my battery life)
~ I left my screen on for a full cycle without touching it just to see what kind of screen time the device is capable of and it went for 15h35m screen on time, autobrightness was on with slider at 0. I also tried the same test with the only custom kernel that exists for my model (D852) and my battery life only did 10 hours unused vs the (11.5h avg) I get WITH usage on the stock kernel. Lack of kernel support on the D852 does make me consider trying another phone.
(It also might be fair to say that most other users average 3-5h SOT, which I don't even know how is possible to get so little unless you were playing a game the whole time with max brightness, but it's reality for some. But just know you can EASILY exceed 3-5h SOT)
G3 Cons:
~ If I turn my brightness above 50-60% I can start to see little squares on the screen, I usually run really low brightness and just noticed this a couple days ago. (I will likely RMA because of this.)
~ The glass on this phone is prone to coming slightly lose from the screen around the edges, Just enough to make the glass stick up higher than the actual bezel itself, Just like the S4's screen. (This of all things pisses me off more than anything) (I exchanged my first G3 back to the carrier for a new G3 because I had this issue & my phone was really hot, The second device was solid until I noticed the little squares on my screen as mentioned above.)
~ Can't fully disable touchboost. (This phone is clocked at 1.5ghz on 2 cores when your finger is touching the screen because of touchboost, So just to swipe your screen consumes ALOT of power and causes lags due to cpu ramping up on the stock cpu governor) (Even with a custom kernel I was only able to disable touchboost on 3 of 4 cores on my D852, So even when I'm texting on my phone my cpu has to hit 1.5ghz on 1 core to press a letter on my keyboard which is BS, And if on stock kernel it ramps up 2 cores to 1.5ghz just to type a letter) (touchboost is one of the biggest causes for keyboard lag & battery drain when the screen is on.)
~ Signal reception is not near as good as my S4, My S4 was always full bars, This phone is lucky to have half my bars. (Calls are nice and clear without any background noise, Probly the best I've ever heard on any cellphone so far but the data connection is a little flakey)
~ The top bezel is very uncomfortable on my ear when making a phone call. (I always find myself using speaker phone a lot because of this) (Despite the S4 having the same bezel design, The S4 didn't hurt my ear)
~ I have a buzzing sound in my left headphone IF there is no audio playing AND the cpu is under load.
~ This phone isn't as responsive as my S4 was. (One of the reasons for this is the combination of the stock cpu governor + touchboost, The stock cpu governor doesn't ramp fast enough for the touchboost causing a noticeable delay everytime you touch your finger to the screen while using the stock cpu governor, Especially noticeable when scrolling web pages on the web browser.)
~ Web browsing is alot slower than my S4 was, Sometimes I even get "Connection timed out" while trying to load web pages on WiFi, LTE, HSPA+, HSPA. All networks appear to be affected. (Using stock browser, Haven't tried other browsers yet)
~ The webbrowsing on the stock browser drains battery REALLY fast. (But it's the only 2k browser, Atleast it was the last time I checked) (I believe LG's sandbox security is to blame for the stock webbrowsers bad battery life/bad performance)
~ Very little development on lots of models, It seems unless you get a D855 you probly won't get much development. As of right now for my Canadian D852 there is only 1 custom rom and only 1 custom kernel in existence for my model. (Both of which are the same or worse in battery life than stock)
~ If your really into battery savings and are stuck with a crappy model like my D852 model the only custom kernel for my model is the Rin kernel and that makes my phone die FASTER than stock kernel even when it's completely tweaked for max battery life. Completely tweaked Rin kernel gives me same battery life as stock kernel but with TONS of stutters & lags (Stock rom + stock kernel gives me the best battery life & performance on my D852)
~ Phone is hot out of the box without disabling a bunch of things.
~ Color is washed out. (Especially the color red, Red looks like orange that is trying to be red, like it's almost red, but still orangeish.)
~ Color is REALLY washed out at high brightness. (At really high brightness black isn't even black, it's grey)
~ (I don't know if you would call this last one a con, But it sure is disappointing none the less) All the space on the inside of the phone to the left and right of the battery is hollow plastic that coulda been used for a much larger battery, But because this phone was made in korea it was designed this way to accommodate the TV antenna on the Korean version, In the non Korean version it's just air filling this same space.
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I go for all the latest phones. Have had the s4 m7/8 z2. This is my first lg and am very impressed by it. Easy to use, excellent display. Really cant fault it. Get good battery life and am constantly using it. At the end of the day choice is yours but i dont think you'll be disappointed.
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I am considering buying a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 Wifi, I've made a loooot of research on it and here are my assumptions/inquiries about the device. PLEASE correct me if any of them is wrong:
The best tablet screen yet, still why do they set brightness to maximum in reviews? Is it too dim at 50%?
Not the smoothest UI, I'm familiar with TouchWiz and I expect some hiccups but not affecting the performance (I mean, e.g. the pages will scroll on time but the animation may not always be as smooth as expected or it may drop frames, only not quite often)
It doesn't hang doing normal activities - I won't need to reboot it
Good battery life, again: if I really need to set brightness to maximum all the time, will the battery still be good?
Thanks in advance...
It is very bright. 10-20% usually is enough indoors. In the sun you'll need 100%, best sunlight readability I've come across so far, but still you need to tilt it out of direct reflections. On 100% brightness you'll get 4-5 hours screen on time. Usually around 6. If you debloat it, there's no lag or stutter at all, I can't see any. Debloating can be time consuming. It is easier to flash a new Rom, but then you go rooted. Mine crashes from time to time (not a big deal), but I think it is due to some premature apps.
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It is very bright. 10-20% usually is enough indoors. In the sun you'll need 100%, best sunlight readability I've come across so far, but still you need to tilt it out of direct reflections. On 100% brightness you'll get 4-5 hours screen on time. Usually around 6. If you debloat it, there's no lag or stutter at all, I can't see any. Debloating can be time consuming. It is easier to flash a new Rom, but then you go rooted. Mine crashes from time to time (not a big deal), but I think it is due to some premature apps.
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Great, regarding the brightness!
By crashes, though, you mean the kind that you would see on most Anrdoid devices such as Note 3? Or is there anything more serious here?
PS: I just read that this should probably belong to Q/A... Thanks anyway.
I don't know the causes of hangs and crashes really. I've had a Note 1 before, that never ran reliably. But Android matured a lot since that time.
This is by far the best Android experience I've had with Samsung. I'm on a custom ROM and kernel though.
I've had the 10.5 tab s for a little more than a month, use it all day (boring job). Have had 0 issues with crashing or slowness. Absolutely love this tablet. Just wish I had waited for the holiday sales.
You won't need 100% brightness most of the time. Auto setting works just fine, neverhad an issue. It also has 2 power saving modes to help keep it going when you really need it.
The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
Link:
http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
I think I do feel thermal throttling as I can't explain the occasional lag I'm experiencing on my N5X.
When the lag happens, it happens but when it's ok, everything is smooth and I can't reproduce the lag by using same app/same steps..etc
I've been wondering about this as well. I know the 808 doesn't suck as much power as the 810 but the thermals of the device don't seem that great: heat seems to build up in the area between fingerprint sensor and the camera and the corresponding area on the screen. The screen in particular gets really hot.
I've been playing Uprising and it does seem sluggish once the device gets toasty. The gameplay feels OK but I wonder if the game sucks a bunch of CPU in the menu/inventory screens because that part seems to slow way down.
At first I though it might be running out of RAM but my experiments indicatesit might be heat. Restarting the device didn't really improve things (after it got hot again in a few minutes) but putting the device in the freezer for a few minutes does seem to help quite a bit, I did not notice the lags while the device felt cool in my hand...
Not a huge deal for me (I don't game much on my phone and it doesn't get nearly as hot doing lighter tasks) but kind of disappointing if true and heavier gamers expecting no throttling from 808 may have been let down sadly.
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The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
Link:
http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
I checked CPUz after about an hour of gaming (in this case Hearthstone) and the 2 high powered cores had been disabled leaving the work to the lower powered cores. However those were reaching their full clock speed (1.4Ghz) as was the GPU (600Mhz).
thermal throttling due to battery charging seems to be a big issue for me. Especially if I'm not using the stock charger. Basic browsing using Chrome becomes laggy and unresponsive, of the keyboard will be unusable. Thankfully the battery lasts a while and the issue goes away when I'm done charging.
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
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No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
gizzmoffm said:
No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
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Ah that's too bad. I guess I will wait for Anandtech or another site to do their performance consistency break down and comparison.
Hi guys,
I am still running android 8.0 and I was wondering those of you who have upgraded, would you recommend it?
Mostly interested in speed and battery if anybody can provide based on their own experience
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Hi guys,
I am still running android 8.0 and I was wondering those of you who have upgraded, would you recommend it?
Mostly interested in speed and battery if anybody can provide based on their own experience
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Out of 10, I would give it a 9.
If you're concerned with speed, now don't. Overall UI is fluid especially with new animations. The opening of third party apps (such as opening an external link from app) feels really smooth now. The only hiccup I see in UI is within the recents view, sometimes I can see the frame drops while opening recent key, it's not the smoothest.
Battery, Im not sure if there were massive improvements, but I consistently get around 4hrs SOT. Though, Im not quite sure in the future, maybe it'll improve due to Adaptive battery found in pie.
For me, camera is also a factor to consider when upgrading. I was surprised by how much improvement was made particularly in low light hdr shots. Low light shots involving many lights in oreo tend to be a little overexposed, blowing out the highlights, but in pie, they were all balanced. HDR became aggressive, and trust me, I've taken so much pictures already. Though Im not sure about whether its the scene optimizer or it's another improvement.
The thing with pie camera is that I cant enable Video Stabilization even with 4k30 res and tracking AF turned off.
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Out of 10, I would give it a 9.
If you're concerned with speed, now don't. Overall UI is fluid especially with new animations. The opening of third party apps (such as opening an external link from app) feels really smooth now. The only hiccup I see in UI is within the recents view, sometimes I can see the frame drops while opening recent key, it's not the smoothest.
Battery, Im not sure if there were massive improvements, but I consistently get around 4hes SOT. Though, Im not quite sure in the future, maybe it'll improve due to Adaptive battery found in pie.
For me, camera is also a factor to consider when upgrading. I was surprised by how much improvement was made particularly in low light hdr shots. Low light shots involving many lights in pie tend to be a little overexposed, blowing out the highlights, but in pie, they were all balanced. HDR became aggressive, and trust me, I've taken so much pictures already. Though Im not sure about whether its the scene optimizer or it's another improvement.
The thing with pie camera is that I cant enable Video Stabilization even with 4k30 res and tracking AF turned off.
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Hmm really good reply, I'll just go ahead and upgrade
I'm wondering what kinda battery life you get on the zfold3. When I opened youtube with the big screen on my accusatory app says it dr omegle ains 32%/hr does anyone else have any knowledge of if this is normal rate or high? I got it on ebay so I'm trying to make sure that everything is running as expected.
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Also if I open lifeafter and play it while fast charging the back of the phone gets really realty hot! Think it was in the 120-130° range xender and screen goes really dim. Anyone else experience this on any slightly more demanding games?
When I watch videos on YouTube with the Fold open I have the same behavior as you, I reduced this by forcing the refresh to 48hz on the videos. For games I don't know, however it consumes when open.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50% Display brightness sucks a lot of battery.
Using dark mode and wallpaper helps too.
Black pixels use no power... darker ones use a lot less.
Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Lol, it never worked that I saw. Google global power management and it's tarded buckets will also cause erratic behaviors that can't be resolved unless you turn it off.
Hand optimizing is better, harder to do... but it works.