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Gingerbread?

Aren't we like behind the times with froyo?
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Really?! I never would've thought it.
I guess you'd better get started developing it.
Texted while driving

I was just asking, I'm no developer, but I have seen other devices with it, I apologize if I offended you or interupted your texting
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You obviously missed my point. Your question was akin to telling people standing in the rain that it's raining. We all know our phone is running an outdated OS, that's why the current CM7 port is under way.

and don't worry, there won't be a release after gingerbread in a while because google is making sure that some fragmentation is going to be removed, which will allow manufacturers to catch up to the google release cycle

I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.

socos25 said:
I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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GPU acceleration in certain parts of the OS, improved JIT, better battery, need I say more?
And there wouldn't be anything to ask for if Samsung had anything other than piss poor software.

I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.

dchawk81 said:
I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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All of Sony's new Xperia phones have Gbread, though they're only released in Europe, not to mention the Gbread roms leaked for thr Droid 2/X, but so far only the NEXUS's have official Gbread in the U.S.

Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.

dchawk81 said:
Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Just the fact that we are even uncertain about Gbread in the future is a problem. Even LG (a no name as far as Android is concerned) has promised a Gbread update for its Optimus 1 (a phone selling for between FREE an $50 on contract)

Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official gingerbread on our phones than it took google to make it
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gtuansdiamm said:
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official Froyo on our phones than it took google to make it
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My OCD wouldn't let me go without fixing it.

In all fairness, we are not the only smartphone left out in the rain.
From a markting perspective, it sells new phones. This isn't iOS with one device to focus on selling.
If all android phones had the same OS and received updates at the same time, then you would see ads selling us hardware. Most ads point out the operating system as a selling point and this is because there's too much compitition between android devices as well as those of the same manufacturer (think samsung).
It's not fair but then again how are you to convince manufacturers to stop? Google is trying by their recent policy changes, but I don't think we will see a solid standard in android OS for another few years.
The complication is furthered by production of low cost, entry level android devices that don't play well or contain the hardware to push something like GB. You need this demographic since pay as you go appears to be a growing trend.
I am hopeful for a GB release but I know that if we want something bad enough, XDA will likely to figure it out.
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Hummm..
I have builds of GB for both my Epic and EVO.
Not sure where all the fuss over no GB comes from, must be iPhone fans who get Android phones instead, wanting to remain stock for some reason

[Q] Are we, for sure, getting cm9?

I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?

I am a total noob on here as well and I am not trying to be an ass when I say the following: Do a search!!
It is coming but from everything I have read on here from doing my own research, graphics drivers are a huge problem along with some other issues and CM9 will probably not see the light of day on the SGH-T989 until after Samsung releases their ICS build.
Also, it is never a good idea to ask for an ETA from any developer. From what I have heard from other people that especially holds true for Cyanogen.

I'm not asking for a ETA, I just want to know it's coming.

tycosnh said:
I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?
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I can tell you that my TMO inside man told me that a internal doc was posted in the extranet that said the SGSII was getting ICS, but no date was included. With that said, when ICS is released on our phone we should see CM9 released within the month after that. Thats my guess.

Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;

Thats what I thought too, but its going to be while. But well worth the wait im sure

tycosnh said:
Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;
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It was stated that Samsungs goal was first quarter of 2012, I'd take that very loosely though.
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I can't wait for ICS! My friend has the GNexus and its a nice phone however I like the physical appearance of the GS2 better!
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Seeing how well Samsung's promises of software upgrades go (on the Behold and Vibrant) I do not count on ICS being available for them at any time in the near future and definitely not in Q1. I'm sure we'll see CM9 released before seeing an official version from Samsung. At this point, between Dewizzed and CM7 I am very happy with the device and can wait (or at least try to!!).

[Q] HTC newer version than G Nexus?

Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?

> # doesn't mean greatness.

enjoy what you have..don't act like a kid
the day that the sensation will not receive android Jelly Bean and Key Lime Pie, the sensation's users will cry more than you

Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!

I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.

Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
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if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)

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if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)
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No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.

Inferis said:
Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?
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Several tablets, like the Transformer Prime, have been on 4.0.3 for weeks. You were guaranteed timely updates for the useful life of your phone, which is about 18 months. Not first.

Inferis said:
No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.
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Good play on version #
As more phone makers start to roll out ICS you'll see more and more version #'s, not necessarily equating to any tangible improvements.

This is a silly thread with a silly concern. Go root your phone.

Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!
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Then sell your Nexus and go back. Nobody is making you keep it. you can root your phone and put 4.0.3 or even a 4.0.4 rom on it. If you dont want to root you phone you can unlock it, temporarily boot CWM and flash the stock 4.0.4 OTA.

Inferis said:
I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.
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well, you are acting like a kid. grow up.
I'm sorry you don't like your Nexus, but no one is forcing you to use it. Feel free to sell it and buy any HTC phone if you'd like. Truth is that the Nexus will still be the first to be updated to vanilla Android, because no other phone in existence will have it. You go buy the HTC phone it will have 4.0.3 and that's amazing! But it has Sense, and when it comes to the next update, you'll be *****ing again that its not coming and you'll want your Nexus back.
The fact that you'd consider leaving the Nexus on 4.0.2 for an HTC phone on 4.0.3 because its x.x.1 higher leads me to believe that you don't understand how great having a Nexus is.

I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.

RogerPodacter said:
I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.
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Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'

As far as complaining you don't have 4.0.3, what improvements in .3 are you waiting for over .2 exactly?
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Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'
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Speaking of the "now generation" when are we getting a new BAMF? Jk man.

LOL.
Last I heard was next week, which will (hopefully) mark the first launch of the Maguro version.

Fine, Ill go rooting then.
But you guys really help me out if I dont succeed!
AFAIK theres a better radio (which is really useless today) in 4.0.4 or 4.0.3

If you really dont want your nexus i'll take it... Mine is in the shop getting wifi fixed. Had to RMA and i'm really missing it. I'm stuck using this brick of a Dell Streak, not having my nexus is really bad. But on the bright side I still have my Gtab running 4.0.3!

xboarder ICS completion

Apparently xboarder bricked his phone and Samsung wont exchange it therefore he cant develop anymore for the skyrocket but he is open sourcing from where he last left off. Since its being open sourced somebody should look into making a t989 build. It has gsm working I think.

Man I thought these were hard to brick... sucks

ikarma said:
Man I thought these were hard to brick... sucks
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Well, when you're trying to develop ICS from source without barely anything, anything can happen I suppose.
Sucks that ICS development has taken a bit of a halt. I heard he made good strides too.

Dang. I really had high hopes for him.
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that blows. I hope someone will be brave enough to try it since he bricked his

jim93 said:
Apparently xboarder bricked his phone and Samsung wont exchange it
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hah, right. total bs. and this kids, is why you don't donate until AFTER somebody has created a rom

well its not bricked according to him. the cpu is dead thats what he said since he checked it somehow. then samsung wont replace it? doesnt that seem kind of odd that they wont replace his galaxy s2? i dont see how they cant replace it, if it took a ****.

Lol...
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Someone, told that there is an officially supported jtag available now. His response "cpu is dead".
I smell bull****.

I like howxda has been going down hill because people assume the worst in others. He's making something from scratch and you expectit to be perfect. bricking your phone more than once seems kind of expected when you are working by yourself and testing experimental builds in your own phone. I believe he never purchased a new phone so maybe that is why Samsung is not replacing it.
s10shane said:
well its not bricked according to him. the cpu is dead thats what he said since he checked it somehow. then samsung wont replace it? doesnt that seem kind of odd that they wont replace his galaxy s2? i dont see how they cant replace it, if it took a ****.
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billydroid said:
Someone, told that there is an officially supported jtag available now. His response "cpu is dead".
I smell bull****.
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yep thats what i just read over on the other website. i still think its odd samsung wont replace his phone since its not that old of a phone. plus how do u know its a dead cpu when the phone is bricked?

monkeypaws said:
I like howxda has been going down hill because people assume the worst in others. He's making something from scratch and you expectit to be perfect. bricking your phone more than once seems kind of expected when you are working by yourself and testing experimental builds in your own phone. I believe he never purchased a new phone so maybe that is why Samsung is not replacing it.
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Well dude something fishy is going on because we have year warranty on our phones out the box and samsung doesnt know he mods his phone all he has to say to tmobile is his phone wont turn on.....trust they will give him a new one.. So idk whats up but our variant i dont think will ever see ics

To be honest im gonna get bashed for this but ill state some things i've notice..I've been following xboarders work since the sensation which he was accused of kanging from the CM team and threw a ***** fit hence the "they dont like me"you guys must of heard from xboarder himself.So he left the sensation community and his rom to kristofpetho i believe or was it melvin,cant remember its been awhile.Then he received a donated amaze 4g and soon enough he was working on asop ics which was never finished..Then lef tthe amaze to work on a donated skyrocket with the same tactics luring ppl to think he's building a asop ics rom..so far nuttin's been finished but a ported sense 3.5 rom for the amaze i think he kanged RC team..I say this because i seen a post NRGZ28 said about it and xboarder quickly replied pm me and that was the end of discussion..The sense 3.5 can be arguable however cause its just speculations of a post i have no real facts if its kanged..I understand he's just a kid and he's working,testing on his own but the facts is there just browse like i said i've been following him since we've had the same phones..I know im not a dev and havent put out anything but im learning and im thankful for the righteous devs that we do have.Just sucks ppl donated to him..This isnt a i hate xboarder post i have nuttin against him i just dont like shady ppl..

Tell him to mal
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Tell him to make a video on his phone charging/ trying to turn it on. And check if battery is it in or i call this bull ****.
Well i mean...saying he bricked hes phone / selling the phone. Or getting another donation of 500dollar phone is a quick cash.
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eunkipark92 said:
Tell him to make a video on his phone charging/ trying to turn it on. And check if battery is it in or i call this bull ****.
Well i mean...saying he bricked hes phone / selling the phone. Or getting another donation of 500dollar phone is a quick cash.
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As much as I want proof as the next guy.
I doubt he would ever do that....
Oh well I have an upgrade in December

sarni84 said:
Well dude something fishy is going on because we have year warranty on our phones out the box and samsung doesnt know he mods his phone all he has to say to tmobile is his phone wont turn on.....trust they will give him a new one.. So idk whats up but our variant i dont think will ever see ics
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He doesn't have a Hercules. He has a Skyrocket.
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I'm guessing there will be a donation thread to come very soon. Call it a hunch but I have a feeling that it's coming.

sarni84 said:
.. So idk whats up but our variant i dont think will ever see ics
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You will definitely see ics. Maybe not until its an official release, but it will come.
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monkeypaws said:
I like howxda has been going down hill because people assume the worst in others. He's making something from scratch and you expectit to be perfect. bricking your phone more than once seems kind of expected when you are working by yourself and testing experimental builds in your own phone. I believe he never purchased a new phone so maybe that is why Samsung is not replacing it.
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He sent back before. He is saying they won't do it again. He says the jtag won't work cause his cpu is dead.
I think the kid hit a wall and doesn't want to admit defeat. Considering, how he was treating the other guys trying to work on ics.
He said he was going to release a 4th preview in a day. That was a week and a half ago. So.. I think it's too hard for him.
Without drivers cyanogen and slayher haven't got an alpha build. So this kid was full of cap from the start.

No official JB update until 2013! samsung did it again!

so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/

HRodMusic said:
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.

Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.

Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
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jbizz said:
IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..

HRodMusic said:
i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Stupid app take out my cuss word! Hah!!!
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.

First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.

And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol

jbizz said:
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.

It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!

This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?

I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.

dntesinfrno said:
Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.

Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.

I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...