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[Q] Can't boot into TWRP but normal boot works

Hello,
So I received my kindle fire today. It OTA updated itself to 6.3 and after that I rooted and flashed firefirefire + TWRP it with KFU. Everything went fine and I have root access. Normal booting works but when i try to get into TWRP by pressing power button while starting it just boots normaly (powerbutton turns to orange for a while).
This is apparently problem with new 2.1 TWRP? Will flashing clockworkmod over TWRP fix this (so that i can use cwm instead) and backup/install roms with it or will I run into some kind of problems? Is there some other way to fix this?
Thanks for help!

Yes. 2.1 still has a lot of bugs to iron out. Go back to 2.0 and try again.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium

soupmagnet said:
Yes. 2.1 still has a lot of bugs to iron out. Go back to 2.0 and try again.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium
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That could very well be why so many are having trouble this new twrp I use the old one haven't had a problem yet but you could be onto something there

There is guide how to install 2.0 in Kindle fire development list thread (cant post links since I'm new here and it links to rootwitz)
Is this the correct TWRP or is there newer 2.0. Im just wondering as file name has "rc" (release candidate) in it.
I guess KFU cant do this for me so are those commands correct in that post?
Code:
adb shell
idme bootmode 4002
exit
fastboot -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
etc.

Cykyter said:
Hello,
So I received my kindle fire today. It OTA updated itself to 6.3 and after that I rooted and flashed firefirefire + TWRP it with KFU. Everything went fine and I have root access. Normal booting works but when i try to get into TWRP by pressing power button while starting it just boots normaly (powerbutton turns to orange for a while).
This is apparently problem with new 2.1 TWRP? Will flashing clockworkmod over TWRP fix this (so that i can use cwm instead) and backup/install roms with it or will I run into some kind of problems? Is there some other way to fix this?
Thanks for help!
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I posted an explanation of what's going on with TWRP 2.1.0 in the KFU thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24732291&postcount=1298
And yes, you can install CWM onto the recovery partition and it will work fine.

Thanks! Installing cmw worked. Now I have ICS installed on my kindle

Same Issue
I'm having the same issue. I've falshed FFF and TWRP with KFU 0.9.5. The utility said I was successful but I can't access recovery. Can someone point me to some instructions which detail another way of doing this. A manual way is fine. I understand you can use TWRP 2.0, but all the links want to direct me to downbload 2.1. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

nchevaux said:
I'm having the same issue. I've falshed FFF and TWRP with KFU 0.9.5. The utility said I was successful but I can't access recovery. Can someone point me to some instructions which detail another way of doing this. A manual way is fine. I understand you can use TWRP 2.0, but all the links want to direct me to downbload 2.1. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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TWRP 2.1 has some problems and KFU's install process for it was broken. Vashypooh has reverted back to 2.0.
Probably the easiest thing for you to do is to delete your copy of KFU 0.9.5, download a new copy of KFU 0.9.5, and reinstall TWRP from it. It should automatically download version 2.0 and let you install that version.

Please Help asap

Rooted my kindle fire and installed twrp but did not install firefirefire, i installed glazed ICS but it starts loading and loads for a bit, then it freezes. Can someone please help fix this?
Thanks

funniestdread said:
Rooted my kindle fire and installed twrp but did not install firefirefire, i installed glazed ICS but it starts loading and loads for a bit, then it freezes. Can someone please help fix this?
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Do yourself a favour and install FFF from TWRP, installing it as you would any other ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375
Have you wiped cache, dalvik-cache and factory reset? Tried reinstalling the ROM?

Can I boot into twrp without firefirefire, if so please tell me how. Because all my fire does is trys to boot into glazed but it loads for a bit then freezes.

funniestdread said:
Can I boot into twrp without firefirefire, if so please tell me how. Because all my fire does is trys to boot into glazed but it loads for a bit then freezes.
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Ohh, I thought you were already in TWRP. Are you using the stock bootloader? Ie, never installed any FFF at all?
I guess you'll have to use firekit and do the usb boot (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038 - usb_install_fff_twrp), but perhaps someone else can provide better advice.
EDIT: What version of TWRP do you have? Have you had 2.0 installed before?

I have twrp installed plus i backed up before i flashed the rom. But i do not have firefirefire.

funniestdread said:
I have twrp installed plus i backed up before i flashed the rom. But i do not have firefirefire.
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Sure, but what version of TWRP do you have installed?

Not really sure on which version, its the one that came with the kindle fire utility.

If you've done it recently then it's 2.1 or 2.1.1, neither of which do include FFF. So in the end, I guess it falls to the usb boot method and firekit.

Total noob here, can you tell me how to do what you're talking about?

If no one else can suggest a better alternative, you'll have to head to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038 and follow the instructions there. The script that interests you is "usb_install_fff_twrp". You will have to open the KF's case.
EDIT: I suppose you could also buy a factory mode cable, should work as well, and it's safer (no need to open the KF and short pins).

What would I need to do if I bought a factory cable?

Install the fastboot drivers if they aren't already (included in KFU), then install FFF from fastboot mode.
The rest is simple, just booting into TWRP, then wiping cache, dalvik-cache and doing a factory reset, and finally installing that ROM again or whatever other ROM you'd like to try...

Root attempt failing

I purchased a Kindle Fire for my wife, I want to root it to allow Google Play to be installed
I dl'd the KFU v0.9.6, got the ADB driver, installed, showing as a android composite device
I run the utility following these instructions
from the liliputing.com
it gets to this point, screen cap attached
and dies, it leaves me at the TWRP screen, I have recovered several times using this site here
rootkindlefire.com hot to /how-to-unrootunbrick-rooted-kindle-fire
I must have read 100 threads today but nothing seems to help
Any suggestions or should I just wait for a utility update?
I'm no expert but I have rooted my phones in the past and installed custom ROMs, I'm no developer by a long shot but I'm not out in the woods clueless either.
Thanks

Hopefully you have the latest FFF installed (blue Kindle Fire logo?). If so, when you see it, hold the power button until you see the boot options appear. Select normal or reset boot mode.

soupmagnet said:
Hopefully you have the latest FFF installed (blue Kindle Fire logo?). If so, when you see it, hold the power button until you see the boot options appear. Select normal or reset boot mode.
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At the moment I am back to stock, kind of skittish as it seems I am not the only person having a similar issue

Well, looking at screenshot, I see that TWRP was installed successfully. As long as have that, you're good. You can use TWRP to install FFF and a new rom which fixes just about everything. When TWRP first installs it will reboot and leave your device in fastboot mode (stuck at boot logo). To fix it, simply change your bootmode. Using the latest FFF (blue Kindle Fire logo) is the easiest way, but it can also be done via command line.
Being "stuck" at the boot logo is a normal process of modifying the KF, it doesn't mean it's bricked. I suggest you take the time to read up on some Kindle Fire basics before you proceed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747567
Read it, not to identify your exact problem like so many do, but to educate yourself on how this thing called Kindle Fire/Android works. If you've already read it, read it again. Doing so will help you and those trying to help you, tremendously.

I got the same screen last night as well. TWRP is installed as I can reboot into Normal/Recovery/Reset Boot..
I can use the KFU to reset the bootloader as well (normal/fastboot, etc)..
but for some reason, KFU doesn't seem to root my device when selecting option 2. I get the blue KF boot logo, can access TWRP, but then what? Do I need to install some other software?
I am soo confused...
I want to root my device so I can install programs. I would also like to install custom ROMs (which I understand that I do not NEED to be rooted to do this), but to install other programs I do.

iRock48 said:
I got the same screen last night as well. TWRP is installed as I can reboot into Normal/Recovery/Reset Boot..
I can use the KFU to reset the bootloader as well (normal/fastboot, etc)..
but for some reason, KFU doesn't seem to root my device when selecting option 2. I get the blue KF boot logo, can access TWRP, but then what? Do I need to install some other software?
I am soo confused...
I want to root my device so I can install programs. I would also like to install custom ROMs (which I understand that I do not NEED to be rooted to do this), but to install other programs I do.
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Transfer the ROM you want to your sdcard and use TWRP to install it. Be sure to "factory reset" (wipe) before you install the ROM or there will be conflicts. It is usually a good idea to wipe cache and dalvik after the ROM installation. There's no need to root a custom ROM.

soupmagnet said:
Well, looking at screenshot, I see that TWRP was installed successfully. As long as have that, you're good. You can use TWRP to install FFF and a new rom which fixes just about everything. When TWRP first installs it will reboot and leave your device in fastboot mode (stuck at boot logo). To fix it, simply change your bootmode. Using the latest FFF (blue Kindle Fire logo) is the easiest way, but it can also be done via command line.
Being "stuck" at the boot logo is a normal process of modifying the KF, it doesn't mean it's bricked. I suggest you take the time to read up on some Kindle Fire basics before you proceed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747567
Read it, not to identify your exact problem like so many do, but to educate yourself on how this thing called Kindle Fire/Android works. If you've already read it, read it again. Doing so will help you and those trying to help you, tremendously.
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Thanks, I reread it last night and will do so again, will likely get back to this over the weekend

soupmagnet said:
Transfer the ROM you want to your sdcard and use TWRP to install it. Be sure to "factory reset" (wipe) before you install the ROM or there will be conflicts. It is usually a good idea to wipe cache and dalvik after the ROM installation. There's no need to root a custom ROM.
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Thank you for the reply. I assume to transfer the ROM I want I'd use something like Window Explorer to drag/drop or should I use the command language?
Wiping the cache and dalvik - is that also done through TWRP?
one last thing; it is my understanding that once you install a custom ROM, you have "root" access.. will this access allow me to install the App Store/Android Market and install apps that normally require root, such as Titanium backup?

iRock48 said:
Thank you for the reply. I assume to transfer the ROM I want I'd use something like Window Explorer to drag/drop or should I use the command language?
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In TWRP you can use "abd push" or there is "mount" function that it comes with that will allow you to mount your sdcard as an external drive, much like with the stock Amazon software.
Wiping the cache and dalvik - is that also done through TWRP?
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Yes, after you install the ROM, you'll be given the option to.
one last thing; it is my understanding that once you install a custom ROM, you have "root" access.. will this access allow me to install the App Store/Android Market and install apps that normally require root, such as Titanium backup?
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Yes, but the "Market" (Google Play) must be installed in TWRP as a "gapps" package. Just Google gapps for the version of android you're installing (CM10-JB, CM9-ICS, or CM7-GB).

ye i have the same issue "mv: can't rename '/system/bin/check_rooted': No such file or directory". I'm sitting at TWRP recovery screen, so I'm guessing just download rom of choice use the mount function to transfer the rom, full wipe and install. this should solve my getting no further in rooting process problem?

radici said:
ye i have the same issue "mv: can't rename '/system/bin/check_rooted': No such file or directory". I'm sitting at TWRP recovery screen, so I'm guessing just download rom of choice use the mount function to transfer the rom, full wipe and install. this should solve my getting no further in rooting process problem?
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If your only error is "mv: can't rename '/system/bin/check_rooted': then chances are, you're already rooted. It just means there was no check_rooted file to rename, so you're good.
Not that it matters anyway because installing a custom ROM gives you "root" anyway.

[Q] Twrp won't install custom rom gives error message

the error message was error flashing zip then it went to updating partition details.should i just continue with it or what?edit:it also shows the 3 buttons that you get at the end of an installation and the rom i was flashing was cyanogenmod 10

Jacobloveskindles said:
the error message was error flashing zip then it went to updating partition details.should i just continue with it or what?edit:it also shows the 3 buttons that you get at the end of an installation and the rom i was flashing was cyanogenmod 10
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That's a known bug in TWRP. Install a version previous to the one you're using, or install COTR.

safe method of doing that
soupmagnet said:
That's a known bug in TWRP. Install a version previous to the one you're using, or install COTR.
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my kindle has no system files and i forgot to make a backup.how do i do that in linux

Jacobloveskindles said:
my kindle has no system files and i forgot to make a backup.how do i do that in linux
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fastboot

soupmagnet said:
fastboot
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not to sound like a total noob but how do I do it in fastboot

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159

if i do this will it overwrite my other recovery?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159
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If I use your soup kit to change into fast boot can I just install twrp on soup kit and it will downgrade me to an older version?

Jacobloveskindles said:
If I use your soup kit to change into fast boot can I just install twrp on soup kit and it will downgrade me to an older version?
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Yes, the SoupKit that is posted now has an older version of TWRP. I'm in the process of updating it so you should probably grab it while you have the chance, should you decide to go that route. You could also install Cannibal Open Touch Recovery. All versions of it are quite stable.

confused
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Yes, the SoupKit that is posted now has an older version of TWRP. I'm in the process of updating it so you should probably grab it while you have the chance, should you decide to go that route. You could also install Cannibal Open Touch Recovery. All versions of it are quite stable.
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So if I'm inside twrp and have soupkit up on the PC and have my kindle plugged in and change it to fast boot then hit flash twrp will it do its thing and downgrade me and reboot my kindle into twrp 2.2 and let me install a ROM.

It has been brought to my attention that you may be confused between the KFU (Kindle Fire Utility) and TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project). The KFU is a Windows based utility used to change bootmodes, install custom versions of the recovery and bootloader partition images along with various other tasks. It has no affiliation with TWRP, COTR, or FireFireFire, other than it installs them to your device for you.
However, the "bug" in TWRP mentioned earlier is due to that way it handles the updater scripts in certain ROMS. It has nothing to do with your system files. The reason you have no system files right now, is because you wiped them prior to attempting to flash a ROM. Since the ROM was never successfully flashed, you have no system files in place, therefore nothing to boot to.
Downgrade your version of TWRP, or install a different recovery altogether, make sure you have wiped data (factory reset) and reinstall your ROM. After that, you should no longer have any problems.
I strongly suggest you take the time to read the guides and tutorials available for the Kindle Fire and make sure you understand how everything works before you do something and get yourself in a situation that you can't get out of on your own.

soupmagnet said:
It has been brought to my attention that you may be confused between the KFU (Kindle Fire Utility) and TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project). The KFU is a Windows based utility used to change bootmodes, and install custom versions of the recovery and bootloader partition images. It has no affiliation with TWRP, COTR, or FireFireFire, other than it installs them to your device for you.
However, the "bug" in TWRP mentioned earlier is due to that way it handles the updater scripts in certain ROMS. It has nothing to do with your system files. The reason you have no system files right now, is because you wiped them prior to attempting to flash a ROM. Since the ROM was never successfully flashed, you have no system files in place, therefore nothing to boot to.
Downgrade your version of TWRP, or install a different recovery altogether, make sure you have wiped data (factory reset) and reinstall your ROM. After that, you should no longer have any problems.
I strongly suggest you take the time to read the guides and tutorials available for the Kindle Fire and make sure you understand how everything works before you do something and get yourself in a situation that you can't get out of on your own.
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There are no tutorials on how to downgrade twrp on kindle fire.look at my previous post its not about kfu its about your soup kit.I checked your thumbnails.it allows me to install twrp but,please I need to know how to downgrade twrp without using the command line.the last time I used the command prompt or typed a command windows gave me a bsod.but now I'm in Linux because of that,anyways,in other words,I don't wanna use a command line.just pleez read my previous post over entirely.

Jacobloveskindles said:
There are no tutorials on how to downgrade twrp on kindle fire.look at my previous post its not about kfu its about your soup kit.I checked your thumbnails.it allows me to install twrp but,please I need to know how to downgrade twrp without using the command line.the last time I used the command prompt or typed a command windows gave me a bsod.but now I'm in Linux because of that,anyways,in other words,I don't wanna use a command line.just pleez read my previous post over entirely.
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I did read your post, entirely.
I'm addressing the fact that you contacted the developer of the KFU, and due to your confusion about things work, gave him the impression that I said something that I clearly haven't.
The "bug" mentioned earlier in this thread has nothing at all to do with the KFU, therefore the developer of that utility is not responsible for it. That being said, the bug in TWRP that prevented you from flashing a ROM has nothing to do with the fact that you don't have system files, as you erroneously assumed.
Even with that, you as the user, assume all responsibility for anything you do to your device, not the developers of this community. This is a community of developers, for developers. This is not a community of developers, for people that don't know what they're getting into, and run into trouble as a result of it.
Now, for your problem at hand...
If you go through this thread carefully, you'll see that I have already answered your question. Go back and pay attention to what's been said and you should be fine.

last question
soupmagnet said:
Yes, the SoupKit that is posted now has an older version of TWRP. I'm in the process of updating it so you should probably grab it while you have the chance, should you decide to go that route. You could also install Cannibal Open Touch Recovery. All versions of it are quite stable.
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stupid question:do i need to be in fastboot because it says i can do it in any bootmode but of course im gonna be in twrp and downgrading

Jacobloveskindles said:
So if I'm inside twrp and have soupkit up on the PC and have my kindle plugged in and change it to fast boot then hit flash twrp will it do its thing and downgrade me and reboot my kindle into twrp 2.2 and let me install a ROM.
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I'm not an expert on this but let do together. I want to learn something too.
According to the previous post, you asked and soupmagnet already answered that it will install a previous version of TWRP.
Why don't you do that then?
Next question is can you get into TWRP (whatever version you're using now, new or old)?

Jacobloveskindles said:
stupid question:do i need to be in fastboot because it says i can do it in any bootmode but of course im gonna be in twrp and downgrading
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Just flash this in recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1204340&d=1342535659

the kindle will boot into recovery
votinh said:
I'm not an expert on this but let do together. I want to learn something too.
According to the previous post, you asked and soupmagnet already answered that it will install a previous version of TWRP.
Why don't you do that then?
Next question is can you get into TWRP (whatever version you're using now, new or old)?
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because i don't know if it needs fastboot and yes i can get into twrp

that sounds a bit weird
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Just flash this in recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1204340&d=1342535659
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i flash a recovery in the recovery?lolwut

Jacobloveskindles said:
because i don't know if it needs fastboot and yes i can get into twrp
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Well, if you can get into TWRP then why not just flash it
What are you waiting for?
Did soupmagnet or someone already say it? flash either the previous version of TWRP or COTR.

Jacobloveskindles said:
i flash a recovery in the recovery?lolwut
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I can't believe this is still being discussed.
Yes, you can flash recovery in recovery using a flashable .zip (like the one I posted) or via the command line. And SoupKit will install recovery whether you are booted into fastboot, recovery, or a normally booted device.
You're making this way harder than it needs to be. You could have avoided all of this if you would have just read the guides and tutorials available to you from the start.

srry this took so long
soupmagnet said:
I can't believe this is still being discussed.
Yes, you can flash recovery in recovery using a flashable .zip (like the one I posted) or via the command line. And SoupKit will install recovery whether you are booted into fastboot, recovery, or a normally booted device.
You're making this way harder than it needs to be. You could have avoided all of this if you would have just read the guides and tutorials available to you from the start.
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That was my final thing.just yeah.thanks for staying with me BTW,know how you said the kfu thing wasn't discussed between this page.that was something I discovered I guess the dev thought we discussed that.I'll give you a thanks

[Q] Cannot nstall CM10.1 rom

I need some help peeps! I've been trying for days now but cannot get any tools to work. I have rooted my device and now need to install the rom, but i have tried KFfirstaide but when i run an option it cannot find the files it needs and also cannot mkdir! I have set the Path up so cant be that. The driver is ADB one not composite.
What other ways are there to install cm10.1?
Ideally id like to keep it as easy as poss, I did try installing the Clockworkmod rom manager from google play but couldnt get that to work as it couldnt install a recovery mode, also tried TWRP but that was worse it wouldn't load.
Does it all have to be done via command line? I did find pages where they show Clockworkmod and thats it.
By the way i have 7.4.6 on the device, also when using fastboot whats it supposed to do? I get the fastboot logo but thats all, is that it or is that not right? Also I can get into the system recovery screen but i only get 2 options, reebot and factory reset. Also When do u need a different cable? I only have the one that came with my device, is that ok? Its just i read that not all khd7's need the fastboot cable. Im really getting confused as i read that i could do a cm10 install with just 2 apps. CWM rom man & google play.
Is there a guide for the 7.4.6 version?
Thanks
JK

I don't know how you haven't hard bricked your device yet trying to flash recoveries like cwm, but you are on the kfhd 7" model. It has 2 methods of installing a custom ROM, you either use fire flash or has codes original method, I prefer fire flash because it involves less typing on my part, but if you forget to check off a certain box it will result in a red screen of death upon boot and you will need a fastboot cable to fix. Lemme get the link for flashing...
Edit: here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
One last note, make sure to copy the ROM you want to flash and gapps to the sdcard before you flash the 2nd boot loader and twrp or you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop thanks to Amazon's anti flashing measures. That was added kinda recently so the tutorials I don't think mention this.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app

So that link you sent me is that all i need to follow to get CM10.1 on my device?
What i really need is pointing in the right direction to get CM10.1 on my rooted KFHD7 7.4.6.
Thanks
JK

Yes, just remember to follow the instructions I put in my post above before doing it.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app