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[REQUEST] Idiot's Guide

In the N1 General forum there was a great post done - 100% Fool Proof Guide to rooting & ROMs, and I was hoping that we could start a similar thread here.
Please feel free to comment on this post - it is my hope that we can put together a great document for newbs like me in the future. THIS thread is for suggestions on what should be in the guide, not the guide itself. I will reserve the second post for compiling suggestions over the next couple of days.
I just ordered my Desire, and it should be with me in a week or two. I am disturbed by the USB/A2SD issues being encountered by some, and so when I root I want to get it right
imHo, the guide should include:
1) Definitions of Rooting, unlocking, goldcards, generic, kernel, radio and how these relate to future OTA updates. These are concepts which I am familiar with, but feel I know just enough to be dangerous to myself/my device
2) A ballpark comparison of the unique characteristics of ROMs available today (stock-like, minimalist, sense-free, tethering, etc)
3) A step-by-step guide to the most recommended flashing updates people are using today
4) Things to bear in mind if you are a win-x64 user (I understand this is a tripping point for some)

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1) Terminology:
Rooting
Unlocking
Goldcards
Generic
Kernel
Radio
OTA updates, and how they may be affected by flashing your Desire
2) Current ROMs available and their unique characteristics
3) Guide to flashing your desire
4) Win64 users - what to bear in mind

And a big warning that this rooting process can cause unexpected pain on your bank balance if you are unlucky at the minute

I'd say to use the TinyCore method as I had nothing but issues doing it using W7 x64 - there's a guide on MoDaCo that's simple as anything - only a fool would get it wrong!!!
Find it here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...inux-download-and-guide-easiest-and-best-way/
And my USB still works fine, not had any issues since rooting and am now happily using an MCRr2 ROM cooked to my liking

I'd have to agree. Tiny Core Linux was so simple to use. I'd never used Linux before and even I could do it!
I did see paul's tweet saying a new safer more reliable method was coming this week hopefully. If that's the case I'll be rooting like mad again!
New, safer, more reliable root method for Legend and Desire coming up next week (all being well). #mcr 7:28 PM May 14th via Tweetie http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien

Only issues I've had was flashing the radio as part of a ROM - wouldn't have it so gonna try it on its own later this evening. Would be nice to get it all in one ROM but meh

EddyOS said:
I'd say to use the TinyCore method as I had nothing but issues doing it using W7 x64 - there's a guide on MoDaCo that's simple as anything - only a fool would get it wrong!!!
Find it here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...inux-download-and-guide-easiest-and-best-way/
And my USB still works fine, not had any issues since rooting and am now happily using an MCRr2 ROM cooked to my liking
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u guys are getting it wrong!!!!!!
me too i was saying the same thing last week when i was reading about the bricks and stuff. i didnt have any problems till 2 days ago. well let me tell you that the unrooting process went out wonderful... nothing wrong. i even flashed all the roms possible and even started cooking and porting some roms for my own use too.
the problem is not whether the method is complex or not. the ''brick'' does not happen while you are rooting the phone. nobody actually knows what triggers the damage. some get it on 1st attempt, some after 5-6 flashes, and some like me after numerous ones.
so in my opinion, i dont think you can say this is a safe method bla bla bla and i try to discourage ppl wanting to root ''for the moment''.

deeren said:
u guys are getting it wrong!!!!!!
me too i was saying the same thing last week when i was reading about the bricks and stuff. i didnt have any problems till 2 days ago. well let me tell you that the unrooting process went out wonderful... nothing wrong. i even flashed all the roms possible and even started cooking and porting some roms for my own use too.
the problem is not whether the method is complex or not. the ''brick'' does not happen while you are rooting the phone. nobody actually knows what triggers the damage. some get it on 1st attempt, some after 5-6 flashes, and some like me after numerous ones.
so in my opinion, i dont think you can say this is a safe method bla bla bla and i try to discourage ppl wanting to root ''for the moment''.
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I totally agree, I try to at least warn people that there is a fair chance they will brick their device but this thread is about the best and easiest way to root.
At the end of the day if people know the risks and still want to go for it, then they may as well come here for the easiest method

just a quick question guys as im a total noob in android and rooting, does this method also works with the desire and does not require a goldcard?

cez10 said:
just a quick question guys as im a total noob in android and rooting, does this method also works with the desire and does not require a goldcard?
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This method is for the desire!
If you choose to root, then you will only need a goldcard if your handset was network supplied and branded. If for example you bought it and it came in a plain box, and had no network branding on the software then you can do it without the gold card. I got mine from the Carphone Warehouse so it was unlocked and unbranded. I just rooted with the standard SD card.
The software number on my unbranded device is 1.15.405.4. Hope this helps.

Refer to this

1) Nothing is foolproof. If you're a fool, don't root.
2) Foolproof implies pragmatic. The N1 is designed (basically) to be rooted so there's a universal method for all. The Desire wasn't, so things liks different bootloaders, branded phones and goldcards makes everyone just that little bit different. I mean, the HTC memory protection mean things like Adfree don't work out of the box (causes phone to reboot) - if you create a foolproof method we're just going to get threads about "zomg why wont dis app wrk on my fone" because they expect to be spoonfed everything.

[Q] Noob Rooting Questions/Help

Ok so I'm completely new to android and I'm thinking about rooting my Nitro. But I do have a few questions:
-What is the possibility of bricking my phone? (only rooting, no flashing roms etc...)
-How do I back-up my phone? (If I'm fine with factory reset, is it still recommended?)
-Do I void my warranty by doing this? (Could I "un-root" if I have problems and make a claim on my warranty (warranty is generic LG one that comes with phone)
-What advantages to I gain by rooting? (I know root access, but I mean like real world application)
*Thank you to anyone who helps me out!

I'm new to Android as well and was able to flash my Nitro fairly easily. I downloaded SuperOneClick and the LG drivers and that was about it. I wish I could link you to everything, but with a bit of reading here in the Nitro forum you should figure it out.
I've found that all the guys here are very helpful, so after searching and reading just ask what you need to and you'll get your answers.
As for benefits of rooting... I think the biggest benefit is a custom ROM. I haven't done that yet cause I haven't done enough reading on it. I do, however, thoroughly enjoy being able to move files around on my phone as opposed to my iphone limiting my every move.

SuperOneClick and the LG drivers worked for me...
You can root and unroot with SuperOneClick.
As long as you follow directions you should not be able to brick the thing during the rooting process.
After rooting you have to know what you are doing modifications so read up...

[Q] Rooting help neaded for note2

hey guys im new 2 android community... ive a galaxy note 2 GT-N7100 International version bought in India. Recently ive been thinkin 2 root my device for various mods like copyin/ installing games on memory card etc... so i wanna know wat software should i use 2 mod my device?? Also i wanna know if its safe??? Ive heard that rooted devices leads to void of warranty... is that true???
thanks in advance....

You should use the wonderful Note2 ToolKit, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956
Yes, rooting it voids your warranty. But you can flash back a stock ROM and unroot if you need to take your phone in for service.
All modifications have risks. Though rooting probably won't break your phone, an user error on your part just might, or malicious code might. You can never know that! You have to be careful and use your best judgment. Rooting is basically like logging in to a computer with an administrator account, you can change all the system settings and as a result you can really screw up your system if you are not careful.
I'm just saying all that to clarify that if you do root your device and mod it, have an accident and screw something up, it's your own fault. You need to always keep that in mind.
When you download the toolkit, the first thing you need to do is:
1) EFS backup
2) Full Nandroid backup
Do those two things first, then do whatever you want. If you have EFS and Nandroid backups you have a safety net in case something goes wrong later on.
Also: read, read, read. Read every single Note II guide and FAQ you can find here on XDA.

Read post #2 and 3 of this thread (though 1-9 all posts are informative for newbies)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696

[Q] Rooting and ROM

Hello, this is the first time posting on this forum and relatively new on the android platform after jumping ship from blackberry. So, i have afew questions i hope you guys can help me with.
1. I heard/read alot regarding rooting to bring out the full potential of an android(s4) phone. What is the full advantage of rooting my phone? How does granting administrative access affect my phone performance?
2. I often see the jargon of bloatware on this forum, what does it exactly mean?
3. What is the function of ROM?
Sorry if these qns are repeated, please direct me to the answer if it is already present in the forum. thanks

1. Ans
2. Ans
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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

Rooting your phone gives you access to do anything you want ie (Apps 2 sd) that the phone dosent permit you to do.
A ROM is just a different feel, and its a faster alternative in upgrading your android ios. (S4 has touchwiz, can change it to Htc Sense)
Bloatware is a bunch of unnecessary apps that Carriers know youll never use but have it just cause. Its annoying and it takes up space. Rooting allows you to delete these apps, cause if its not you wont be able to remove it.
I hope this helped, ask again if you have any more questions.
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I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it. When I look at some of the threads on rooting it just seems like a foreign language to me!
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mahgnillig said:
I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it.
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Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

nikufellow said:
Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Thanks I looked at that and it seems straightforward, but I'm concerned about what to do after the actual root. Things like how to back the phone up in case I mess it up, how to delete things, how to add things. Also I find a lot of the terminology confusing... not quite sure what all the acronyms stand for either, like ODIN or CWM, or what each thing does exactly. This is the kind of thread which would be totally useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028 (this one is for the Vibrant though, so I think a lot of it would be different on a different device?)
As far as the kernel... as far as I know nothing has been updated. I got the phone on the first day it came out so I'm assuming it doesn't have the latest kernel. How would you find out? Not even sure what the kernel is or what it does :\ I would like to find out though!

^^^then you might be on an earlier kernel version anyway trying to root by motochopper method won't brick your device even if it doesn't go successful so no worries.
ODIN is the same software that service centres use to revive your bricked device - as a matter of fact with Samsung drivers, a usb cable and stock rom downloaded from online sources like sammobile, you can revert almost any instances of soft brick. Simply saying ODIN will flash back factory/stock rom anfd make your device as it was when you bought it. And yeah flashing via ODIN and all are more or less same procedure for all Samsung devices
Cwm is a custom recovery. If you don't know what recovery means it might be worth googling for better understanding the concept as even my knowledge is limited and my explanations might fall short of your expectations
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with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?

Mami-dalous said:
with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?
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Steps
#1. Locate GS4 box, place phone inside box.
#2. Return to store and get iPhone.
Serious tho. Best thing you can do is READ. SEARCH and READ. SEARCH and READ.
If you are unsure about something, READ again. Most questions have already been asked and answered.
If you find yourself lost......SEARCH and READ. Believe me this is this most useful advice you will ever get here.
Stuff is so easy now compared to when android 1st started. I remember rooting my G1 on a terminal prompt and installing recovery with wicked long commands. Now everything is automated and the hardest (NOT) part is reading the step by step instructions provided on almost every mod and tweak.
Welcome and goodluck !

Is root possible for SAMSUNG-SM-N910A on 5.1.1 build number LMY47X.N910AUCU2DOI3 ?

I have been searching for a few days and can't seem to find any available method to root this build number. It's my own fault for accepting the most recent update, I should have known better. If anyone knows of a root method for this build I would love to know how to do it.

from where have you downloaded N910AUCU2DOI3

Latest update from AT&T through system update.

At this time there is none. There likely will never be permanent root for this device, either. Best hope is for a future update of KingRoot to come that gives a very buggy temp-root.

naverone said:
I have been searching for a few days and can't seem to find any available method to root this build number. It's my own fault for accepting the most recent update, I should have known better. If anyone knows of a root method for this build I would love to know how to do it.
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i rooted the SM-N910A NOTE4 using root king and it said root successful then after reboot it bricked itself anda screen came out saying warning at&t has detected ilegal custom software on your device please turn of your device and head to the nearest at&t support center. Honestly you have two choices from what i understand There is 2 U.S. carriers that put what they call a boot lock on their device bootloaders. there is a way to remove the boot lock. google it or ask XDA to assist you . GOOD LUCK. Me personally posted many threads requesting help being that im a noobie and dont know jack sh... about unlocking rooting anything and nobody ever bothered to help me or maybe they just too busy devoloping what ever the case was i had my phone for atleast 2 weeks and i did research during that whole time in different forums like android central etc. and finally figured how to do it. For get about going to AT&T they will tell you your warranty is void and that your phone is permanantly hard bricked and all they do is lie to you so you can purchase a new device. I finally restored my device by installing official firmware that you can download free from sammobil.com via odin 3.10.6 they will give you a complete guide. and the correct download links for the proper tools needed to complete the job NOTE: this worked for me its not a hundred percent sure that it will work for you. Please note and understand that you can do this at YOUR OWNE RISK I will not take responsibility for any damage that you may do to your device by using this method and there is a possibility if you dont do it right you can hard brick your phone PERMANENTLY!!!!!!! proceed at your owne risk if you try to blame me for damages to your phone i will laugh at you HARD!!!
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teddyherrera1 said:
i rooted the SM-N910A NOTE4 using root king and it said root successful then after reboot it bricked itself anda screen came out saying warning at&t has detected ilegal custom software on your device please turn of your device and head to the nearest at&t support center. Honestly you have two choices from what i understand There is 2 U.S. carriers that put what they call a boot lock on their device bootloaders. there is a way to remove the boot lock. google it or ask XDA to assist you . GOOD LUCK. Me personally posted many threads requesting help being that im a noobie and dont know jack sh... about unlocking rooting anything and nobody ever bothered to help me or maybe they just too busy devoloping what ever the case was i had my phone for atleast 2 weeks and i did research during that whole time in different forums like android central etc. and finally figured how to do it. For get about going to AT&T they will tell you your warranty is void and that your phone is permanantly hard bricked and all they do is lie to you so you can purchase a new device. I finally restored my device by installing official firmware that you can download free from sammobil.com via odin 3.10.6 they will give you a complete guide. and the correct download links for the proper tools needed to complete the job NOTE: this worked for me its not a hundred percent sure that it will work for you. Please note and understand that you can do this at YOUR OWNE RISK I will not take responsibility for any damage that you may do to your device by using this method and there is a possibility if you dont do it right you can hard brick your phone PERMANENTLY!!!!!!! proceed at your owne risk if you try to blame me for damages to your phone i will laugh at you HARD!!!
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forgot to tell you the two U.S. carriers that put locks on their bootloaders is AT&T and VERIZON so i wouldnt recommend root unless you unlock bootloader or else your phone will continueously stay in boot mode without letting you exit. that i believe is a bootloop good luck

teddyherrera1 said:
Honestly you have two choices from what i understand There is 2 U.S. carriers that put what they call a boot lock on their device bootloaders. there is a way to remove the boot lock. google it or ask XDA to assist you . GOOD LUCK.
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You CANNOT unlock our bootloader and DO NOT ask XDA. Googling it will not result in anything useful either.
Our bootloader is still not able to be unlocked and thus Googling for an answer will only bring up scams, false information, or just no results.
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Me personally posted many threads requesting help being that im a noobie and dont know jack sh... about unlocking rooting anything and nobody ever bothered to help me or maybe they just too busy devoloping what ever the case was i had my phone for atleast 2 weeks and i did research during that whole time in different forums like android central etc. and finally figured how to do it.
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Not sure if you're referring to unlocking the bootloader still or about fixing the soft brick caused by Kingroot. Either way, the reason why no one answered you here on XDA is because both questions are asked at least every other week by people who either can't use the search function or just don't even try to. We here in the XDA community are more than happy to help noobs, but if we see the EXACT same questions being asked over and over again, then we will begin to ignore them since the answers are readily available already.
teddyherrera1 said:
For get about going to AT&T they will tell you your warranty is void and that your phone is permanantly hard bricked and all they do is lie to you so you can purchase a new device. I finally restored my device by installing official firmware that you can download free from sammobil.com via odin 3.10.6 they will give you a complete guide. and the correct download links for the proper tools needed to complete the job NOTE: this worked for me its not a hundred percent sure that it will work for you. Please note and understand that you can do this at YOUR OWNE RISK I will not take responsibility for any damage that you may do to your device by using this method and there is a possibility if you dont do it right you can hard brick your phone PERMANENTLY!!!!!!! proceed at your owne risk if you try to blame me for damages to your phone i will laugh at you HARD!!!
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Yes, for our phones- since there is no possibility to root and thus no risk of doing very serious software damage- Odin is usually the cure-all for most problems. You can find the latest available Odin file in our phone's thread, and use Google to find tutorials on how to use Odin itself.

How I root Samsung Galaxy note 4 SM n910a 4.4.4

spexwood said:
You CANNOT unlock our bootloader and DO NOT ask XDA. Googling it will not result in anything useful either.
Our bootloader is still not able to be unlocked and thus Googling for an answer will only bring up scams, false information, or just no results.
Not sure if you're referring to unlocking the bootloader still or about fixing the soft brick caused by Kingroot. Either way, the reason why no one answered you here on XDA is because both questions are asked at least every other week by people who either can't use the search function or just don't even try to. We here in the XDA community are more than happy to help noobs, but if we see the EXACT same questions being asked over and over again, then we will begin to ignore them since the answers are readily available already.
Yes, for our phones- since there is no possibility to root and thus no risk of doing very serious software damage- Odin is usually the cure-all for most problems. You can find the latest available Odin file in our phone's thread, and use Google to find tutorials on how to use Odin itself.
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"Our bootloader" ... "our phones" You make it sound as if you're a rep or employee of AT&T. And if so then wth is so wrong with simply allowing people root access to the phones they bought n own? I understand stupid people with powerful tools make powerful stupid mistakes. But smart people who can fix their own few mistakes would still greatly appreciate being allowed to adjust the phone to drastically increase efficency, or at least remove the bloated optimization cap.
Or those who want root so that they can utilize a form of genuine location and privacy protection. To choose whether or not the app they haven't used in weeks still needs to run in the background all the time or still check your location.
Idk... I'll step off my soap box now. Maybe I'll just say screw it and swap the note 4 for another rootable note 3. Since my straight talk phone service is reliant on the AT&T tower near me for any service.

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"Our bootloader" ... "our phones" You make it sound as if you're a rep or employee of AT&T. And if so then wth is so wrong with simply allowing people root access to the phones they bought n own? I understand stupid people with powerful tools make powerful stupid mistakes. But smart people who can fix their own few mistakes would still greatly appreciate being allowed to adjust the phone to drastically increase efficency, or at least remove the bloated optimization cap.
Or those who want root so that they can utilize a form of genuine location and privacy protection. To choose whether or not the app they haven't used in weeks still needs to run in the background all the time or still check your location.
Idk... I'll step off my soap box now. Maybe I'll just say screw it and swap the note 4 for another rootable note 3. Since my straight talk phone service is reliant on the AT&T tower near me for any service.
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1) That post was made back in 2016. That was over 2 years ago!!! Why did you necro such an old thread? The last post made here was Dec 5, 2016.
2) I no longer have the n910a. Got rid of it a long time ago
3) I do not, nor never have worked for ATT nor am affiliated with them in any way.
4) When I used the word "our" I was referring to the fact that I too owned the n910a. So "our phone" obviously meant "my n910a and everyone else's" and same for the "our bootloader"
5) At the time of my post, root was not available for rhe n910a AT ALL. (If I recall, a temporary root eventually became available though, but it reset everytime you restarted your phone). On a daily basis, people were asking whether root was available or not and people were getting sick of answering the same question over and over again when the answer fould easily be found through a simple search here on XDA.
There were also scams going on at the time BECAUSE this was such a popular topic. Websites claimed to give walkthroughs on how to root your n910a, but all they really did was brick your phone. Kingroot was one of them.