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[Q] Installed applications are hidden

Hello,
I got my Desire HD a few weeks ago, it was locked on Three UK and I rooted and sim unlocked it to use it in Italy where I live.
I was playing with the application manager and noticed that there are a few apps that are installed on the phone (some Three UK apps, Bejeweled and so on) that are not showing at all in the apps list. They are in the installed applications of the application manager, but I can't do anything with them as all the controls for these apps are gray (not selectable). Anyone has any idea about what is happening?
I was also thinking to flash a stock ROM to get rid of all that unusable stuff and speed up the phone a bit (the Three splash screen makes boot crazy long), but I want to be sure I can go back to this ROM, if needed. I have a backup made with ClockworkMod, is it all I need or should I save something else first?
What stock ROM would be better for me to flash?
I am currently with OS build 1.37.771.3 and Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Thanks in advance for the help!

No advice at all?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.

Mr_JMM said:
My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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Okay, I think I explained myself the wrong way
I didn't want somebody to tell me what ROM is better as I know it really depends on personal preferences, that's the reason why there are so many different ones, right? What I meant is: what is the latest stock ROM that allows me to root the phone using Visionary+? Do I have to worry about OTA updates or can I just download and apply them?
For now I just want to have a "clean" phone, custom roms and further playing will come in the future
And, the second part of the question is if a system backup done using ClockworkMod is sufficient to get back to what I have now, if ever needed, or I do need to backup something else first.
Thanks!

I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.

Mr_JMM said:
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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Would I need to somehow backup Radio too? Or CWM backup saves it as well?

[Q] Updating ROM

Hello,
i have one question. I didnt find answer on this quest yet, so i ask here. I have ARHD 7.0.0 from mike (great job mike ) and in a short i want to update to 7.0.1 without superwipe. But i dont know, if i will loose my data, like apps, contacs sms or something else. Before this i flashed new rom only with superwipe tool.
I know its maybe stupid question, but i am still beginner and i am not sure, if i am right with many things. (and sory for my bad english sometimes ).
Thank you

You can just flash 7.01 over your existing 7.00, because it doesn't wipe anything on its own.
And if you want tro be sure, just make a nandroid backup via CWM before.
It will secure everything for 100%.

Thanks,
Good to hear this, i was bored with instaling apps and doing everything one more time, because i didnt use any backup app, that was mistake

Consider getting yourself a copy of Titanium Backup (or MyBackupPro, I think it's called).
You can schedule backups of everything you have, from SMS messages through to user apps and data, then restore after flashing.
I don't do that much ROM flashing myself, 1/month approx (I will eventually get to ARHD v7), but it's great to restore so easily

Ok, it seems to be good app fro doing backups and restores
Thank you for your advice, next time it will be easily to flash new ROM
I am looking forward to new version of ARHD!

majky11 said:
Ok, it seems to be good app fro doing backups and restores
Thank you for your advice, next time it will be easily to flash new ROM
I am looking forward to new version of ARHD!
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be aware that once you flash a rom over (in your case 7.0.1 over 7.0.0) all your MODS (they aren't right now for ARHD 7, but for future records ) will be deleted
also if you removed some bbloatware software...it will be flashed again
so my advice
Get Titanium, as you already being advised and backup all aps
DO a NANDROID BACKUP (make this a regular job....it will save from a lot of mistakes that you will do ..trust me ..it happens)
Get familiar with ROM CLEANER from PATRIC83 thread....removes a lot of crappy htc software that you dont need
flash rom
flash rom cleaner
reboot
VOILA

[Q] Advice on backup and rooting

First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way. This is when I found out that my old Blackberry and even iPhone had much more complete backup solutions that non-rooted Android. I have totally recovered the other devices without losing anything in the past so I thought Android would be a snap as well.
Any way to the point now. After searching I have found great work done by the members and I feel pretty comfortable proceeding to root my stock ICS and getting Titanium to do a full backup. I will fix my keyboard and few other things while at it.
My questions are:
1. When the next official release comes from ATT / Samsung will I have to reflash to the stock boot.img (found in another thread) to be able to get the upgrade and then root my phone again?
2. Once rooted, is it better to just come back here and get the updated ROM and flash manually?
3. Is the best way to achieve the complete backup solution I am looking for?
I am pretty happy with the stock ROMs but I want to be able to get a good and full backup going forward since it takes so long to reinstall everything. I could even live with the bloatware if I was confident I could completely restore at anytime.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Roy

Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

Shawn said:
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.

VideoRoy said:
Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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A nandroid backup is more like an image backup of the flash, so you would have to restore the whole thing to get back any files you may have lost. It's mostly for backing up prior to flashing a new ROM, so if you don't like it you can go back to what you had easily.
If you want to back up pictures and things like that you should be able to plug the phone into a computer and mount the flash as a drive (I've done this on my Linux and Windows systems many times). Then you can copy the files you want to save to your computer, or copy a new ROM to the phone so you can flash it with CWMR.

You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

Shawn said:
You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
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mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.

VideoRoy said:
mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
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You will need to root again once you update. Replacing stock recovery with CWMR will not make you lose any data.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

VideoRoy said:
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way.
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It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times

ZeroHour064 said:
It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
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I am with you all the way.
I have installed CWMR now and completed a nandroid backup. After tracking down the backup I copied to my laptop for safe keeping. Also installed the keyboard fix only and it worked fine. Later tonight I will give root a try with Titanium.
BTW I was having SMS issues with the stock ICS. No alerts and basic funky things. I have loaded Go SMS Pro and am happier not only fixing the app issues but giving me Group text mode so I am not an outcast with the rest of my iPhone family
Thanks for helping me get going here.

ICS has a bunch of issues, including the bad notifications.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

As others have posted. I back up all my information per app via Titanium backup and every few months I make a new Nandroid backup. This gives me the best of both worlds. A full backup that I can get back to via Nandroid backup and little backups from Titanium backup if I choose to uninstall and re-install an individual app later on in the future.

Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001

ZeroHour064 said:
Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Great information thanks!!
The backups I am most worried about are all the system settings, app settings and data mostly. I am probably older than most folks here and I do not really text much except family and a few co-workers. I honestly never worried about backing up my SMS / MMS but I will check on my APNs because I had that problem on a Blackberry once. Email is where I store most important stuff and talk about paranoid I have multiple copies of my emails on different computers on different operating systems. 20 years working in storage will do that to you
I believe that if Google or Samsung even came up with a backup solution that did what Blackberry or Apple could do it would solve a lot and I probably would not even be working on this. Blackberry saved my bacon more than once with the complete backup they do in their clunky software and last year when my daughters iPhone would no longer power off, I was able to use iTunes to do a complete backup and she was up and running on a new phone in 15 mins exactly where she left off.
Thanks for the advice!

[Q] Questions about rooting/custom ROMS from a new user

Hi i have a t999 samsung s3 (not rooted). I am quite new to this whole rooting/development scene. I really want to try out 4.2.2.
Some questions i have are:
- After i root my phone and put a custom rom does it wipe my phone or does it leave all the data on (apps, personal settings and what not)? If yes, is there a way to backup everything and restore it after i have put on a custom rom so that everything i had is back to normal?
- Also which rom has good battery life? I have heard some roms are really good on the battery life compared to the stock version.
Thanks a lot for the help

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seifer699 said:
Hi i have a t999 samsung s3 (not rooted). I am quite new to this whole rooting/development scene. I really want to try out 4.2.2.
Some questions i have are:
- After i root my phone and put a custom rom does it wipe my phone or does it leave all the data on (apps, personal settings and what not)? If yes, is there a way to backup everything and restore it after i have put on a custom rom so that everything i had is back to normal?
- Also which rom has good battery life? I have heard some roms are really good on the battery life compared to the stock version.
Thanks a lot for the help
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your data will be deleted. you can backup apps with AppMonster Free or Titanium Backup from Play Store.
a good and stable 4.2.2 rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176988

pluginre said:
your data will be deleted. you can backup apps with AppMonster Free or Titanium Backup from Play Store.
a good and stable 4.2.2 rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176988
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^This^
To add to that, battery.... Depends... On several factors including, but not limited to ROM, kernal, use, temp, this that, your pretty neighbor who's running out side. So, your best bet is to and see what will work better for you.
However, since you're new to this, there's somethings I want to say before you start:
-Make sure you have a T-Mobile phone before rooting and flashing using methods and ROMs here.
-Beware of possible lost IMEI when flashing. It's completely random. Go ahead and make a backup of your IMEI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801997
- If you go from a 4.2 ROM back to a 4.1, you could randomly break your GPS. If that happens: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211690

So just wanted to add a couple of things more concise.
Yes you will lose your data when you originally root your phone, however there are benefits to rooting and data in the long run. I highly recommend purchasing titanium backup pro. This will allow you to always have backups of your apps and data stored on the phone. It also allows for cloud storage so lets say your sd card and phone suddenly get fried, no worries once you get your new phone and root it install titanium from the play store and then restore your data from cloud storage.
As far as battery life goes this is dependent on what ROM you choose and what kernel. If you aren't familiar with kernels the less techie way to describe them is they kind of dictate what speeds your phone will run at (this is a very one sided description). Some kernels are designed to be overclocked, so what that means is your going to get faster speeds, the downside to that is faster speeds mean more heat generating of your processor because it needs more energy. More energy means more battery usage, which means a faster dying battery. Some kernels on the other hand are designed to actually be underclocked, which means longer battery. Then there are even kernels that underclock when the phone is asleep and know to overclock when its running a game or something. Long story short on battery, it really depends.
And as far as you rooting your phone, take the time to learn about the process first. Watch multiple you tube videos from different methods. At this point the phone has been out long enough everything is scripted basically so you just pick the right choice and your phone gets rooted, but it is still imperative you familiarize yourself with the process. Words such as adb, recovery, terminal emulator, odin, your going to want to know. Finally if you have any questions ask. Some people will be like www.google.com, but most of us all remember we were there once and needed help also.

I rooted my s3 last weekend. Quite easy, first time I ever rooted. Currently running Wicked 9.1 absolutely love it
Once rooted, download Rom manager and titanium backup. Titanium saves all your data when you flash new Roms
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app

thank you all for the insight
i ended up rooting my t999. but when i go into recovery i still see stock recovery not clockworkmod. does anyone know why this happens?
also in titanium backup which backup do i need to do so everything will be exactly the same when i restore after i flash custom rom?

I had that issue.
Download ROM manager from the playstore. Then download clockworkmod from it. Then from the app go into clockworkmod.
Once there, if I'm not mistaken, reboot. It'll ask you something and hit yes. Basically what's happening is when you try to activate CWM the phone isn't letting it register but this option will override that and you'll be good to go.
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For titanium, I back up all user apps and data. When you flash a new rom, only recover apps you've downloaded. Select one by one just to make sure you don't download any system apps.
System apps with a custom rom can brick your device.
When you download a new rom, always read the opening posts for instructions and make sure it's a rom meant for your device.
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seifer699 said:
thank you all for the insight
i ended up rooting my t999. but when i go into recovery i still see stock recovery not clockworkmod. does anyone know why this happens?
also in titanium backup which backup do i need to do so everything will be exactly the same when i restore after i flash custom rom?
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A couple of quick questions.
1. What rooting method did you use. I ask this because I would refrain from using CWM. CWM used to be the standard, in fact I have always used it until rooting my s3 last week. A lot of the developers are now using TWM recovery. I don't know the reasons behind it or if it will matter but it seems like twm may be more friendly with the s3. One huge benefit of twm recovery is that it is touch screen by default which is a lot easier to use. To get the touchscreen version of CWM you either have to pay for it, or no how to flash it manually usinig adb (this will probably be somewhat confusing for you but there are step by step instructions for it).
2. As far as titanium back up goes. Ill give you a quick run down of how it functions. For starters the basic and simplest way to make a backup is press the menu sofkey, batch options, then under backup just click on 'run' to the left of backup all user apps. From here the defualt is all apps will be selected. if you want all your apps backuped just hit the green check mark at the top right. If there is an app you don't want just uncheck it then hit the check mark in the top right.
As far as recovery of apps goes do the same thing (menu, batch options) but this time go down to restore and restore all aps with data (or missing apps with data depending which option you need).
Now for system apps, I do not recommend you using the batch operations for saving system apps. The truth is you never really want to restore system apps onto a new ROM. There are certain system apps that usually can be restored onto a different ROM or os version such as bluetooth pairings, your sms messages, and wifi passwords. Even restoring these can cause problems so what you want to do is restore them individually, restart the phone, and then make sure everything is working as it should be. Send me a private message if you want and Ill go into detail how to go about doing this.

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 Slow Internet

Hello everyone and greetings from Finland
First i must say that this is my first android phone so i am a total newbie.
I have the Galaxy Ace 2 GT-I8160 and its updated with the Kies program from gingerbread to jellybean 4.1.2.
After the upgrade the internet is very slow (i dont use wifi), sometimes i cant get the connection at all and overall the phone is not working properly.
I send the phone to service when i have warranty left. The circuit card was changed to a new one but the phone acts the same way, i have also made factory reset but nothings helps. I dont also have many apps etc. installed so that cant be the reason.
What do you guys think would be the best solution ? Internet was working better with gingerbread so should i downgrade back to gb or maybe try a custom rom
Many thanks in advance guys

About downgrade to GB i also think about it every day, because it works best with GB. But I'm already used to JB. If you wish to stay at stock 4.1.2 try Kyrillos V9, great rom, ore Team Canjica CM 10.1 those two are bugfree as far as I know, maybe it will help.

Thanks for your reply !
I forgot to say that i use my phone almost for basic use sms, internet, photos, music editing , gmail etc. and of course i want to try different apps. But Galaxy ace 2 has so low memory that it barely runs even for basic use
I would like to keep jellybean 4.1.2 and try a rom but it has to be stable so i dont have to panic if something goes wrong
nusko_x mentioned Kyrillos rom and Team Canjica CM 10.1, are they stable and easy to use for a newbie like me ?
There are sooo many roms out there that i get confused

NangaParbat75 said:
Thanks for your reply !
I forgot to say that i use my phone almost for basic use sms, internet, photos, music editing , gmail etc. and of course i want to try different apps. But Galaxy ace 2 has so low memory that it barely runs even for basic use
I would like to keep jellybean 4.1.2 and try a rom but it has to be stable so i dont have to panic if something goes wrong
nusko_x mentioned Kyrillos rom and Team Canjica CM 10.1, are they stable and easy to use for a newbie like me ?
There are sooo many roms out there that i get confused
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you can get cyanogenmod 10.1 for a really bugfree and smooth experience and yes you can always swap your memory to get rid of the low memory issue

@NangaParbat75: Do you get HSDPA when browsing? (You see a "H" in the statusbar when you have HSDPA connection).

Thanks guys !
I will try the cyanogenmod 10.1 , isnt this the right link for install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2452315 ?
But before that i have questions. I have searched about what to do before installing the new rom but i have got mixed answers or then i havent understood it.
So, after rooting the phone i back up data etc. and for me especially back up the whole rom i have before installing the new one.
But regarding this "backup" progress, in what particular order is it done, do you guys maybe have a good link ?
Then a stupid question about the SD card , all i have is the microsd that came with the phone when i bought it. Is it enough ?
@Frankie73 , i have the "H" in the statusbar when surfing so its ok i think ? Here where i live the connection is not so good but it worked quite good before upgrading..

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@Frankie73 , i have the "H" in the statusbar when surfing so its ok i think ? Here where i live the connection is not so good but it worked quite good before upgrading..
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OK, when you see the "H" then the connection speed should be ok. So maybe the problem is the browser itself? I noticed that some browsers, that worked very well for me on GB, didn't do well on JB. Dolphin for example. So maybe just try another browser. For me the best is Next Browser, but there are a lot to try out / choose from.

@Frankie73 i have now nextbrowser but its the same and i have tried many others, thanks anyway.
I have done more research and if i have understood it right the Team Canjica cyanogenmod 10.1 doesnt require root access ?
So basically i only have to unlock bootloader to flash the custom recovery and get nandroid backup, and then i am ready to install cyanogenmod ?
Is this safe to do , i mean think if something goes wrong and i loose the nandroid backup ? Then the phone is gone ..

AFAIK you don't need root for CM. Just install temporary CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2141395) and you should be able to flash CM10.1. And yes, I think it's save when you do a backup, although I never had to use it myself since I never had any problems when flashing CM10.1 or CM11. Besides backup you can always use odin to flash the official JB.

Thanks for your reply !
Now i know that CM has root-access but i am still confused how to back up the whole device if something goes wrong.
So please, what is the best way to do the whole backup ? @Frankie73 , what do you mean with "use odin to flash the official JB" ?
And then there is the Bootloader thing. Should i unlock it ?
Can i try non-rooted roms in the future even if Bootloader is locked ?

-I dont think our bootloader is locked :/
-Do a nandroid backup lol
-Odin is a windows app for samsung devices to flash stock firmware files :/
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Yeah, as Teddy said, no need to unlock bootloader on our device.
And what I meant was that if anything goes seriously wrong and you can't restore your backup, you still have the option to flash the stock Samsung JB through Odin.
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Sorry guys, now i hit the "Thanks" button for you !
I still have issues to clear out so please be patience.
Ok, so no bootloader unlocking.
At very first i will do a Nandroid Backup via Recovery and ROM Manager, but doesnt it require your phone to be rooted ?
Regarding the nandroid backup, it will be created on the SD-card , but does my phone have a SD-card ?
I havent bought any separate SD-card , the phone has a microsd card that came with it when i bought the phone.

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Sorry guys, now i hit the "Thanks" button for you !
I still have issues to clear out so please be patience.
Ok, so no bootloader unlocking.
At very first i will do a Nandroid Backup via Recovery and ROM Manager, but doesnt it require your phone to be rooted ?
Regarding the nandroid backup, it will be created on the SD-card , but does my phone have a SD-card ?
I havent bought any separate SD-card , the phone has a microsd card that came with it when i bought the phone.
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Just open the slot on the side of your Ace2 and check if there's a sd card inside If not go and get one - you will need it if you will use custom ROMs.
I don't know if root is needed for doing a full backup but rooting from stock JB is really very simple:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139263
It's done in less then 5 minutes.

Ok, i will buy a 8gb Sd-card, that should be enough
So, I will do the following:
1. Root the stock JB
2. Make a Nandroid Backup via Recovery and ROM Manager
3. Install Cyanogenmod 10.1 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2452315
Is this correct ?

1. Root not needed for cwm to work
2. No theres a temp cwm in dev forums. Dont use rom manager
3. Btw backups are usually 800mb-1gb+ so make sure you have space
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I am confused
So what is the difference between permanent and temporary CWM ?

The words 'permanent' and 'temporary' are in dictionaries :/
Perm- forever(until you change)
Temp- stock recovery installed so you must flash temp cwm everytime you want to use it.
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Thanks again for reply !
So with temp cwm i also get the nandroid backup ?
Lets say that something goes wrong and i want my stock jellybean back, what do i have to do then ?

Yes you can backup with temp cwm
Flash stock jb via odin
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